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Plot
Batman (Bale) hopes to hang up his cape and hand over crime-fighting duties to District Attorney Harvey Dent (Eckhart). But the arrival of clown-faced master criminal The Joker (Ledger) forces the masked vigilante to question everything he stands for.
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| Its One Of The Greatest Comic Book Movies And Has One Of The Greatest Villains Of All Time ... More | |
Posted by LukeTheFilmFan at 15:03, 21 February 2013 | Report This Post | |
| Surely the greatest comic book movie ever made | |
| Sure, it's not perfect but the word I'd use to describe the movie would be one that Empire used when writing about Ledger's performance; monumental. If Richard Donner's Superman is the Citizen Kane of superhero movies then The Dark Knight is The Godfather. ... More | |
Posted by Mr Gittes at 20:54, 05 February 2013 | Report This Post | |
| A Blockbuster With Brains | |
| Chris Nolan's follow-up to the seminal Batman Begins, The Dark Knight is the most powerful portrait of the masked crusader to date, and Heath Ledger gives the single greatest performance of the past decade. ... More | |
Posted by movienut707 at 19:21, 09 December 2012 | Report This Post | |
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| L: Rgirvan44 The Joker doesn't need to know Batman is Bruce. All he needed to note was that Batman went for her without thinking. In his mind he figures out that she is important to him. In fact the whole Coleman Reese subplot is about the Joker no longer wishing to know who Batman is. It is pretty much established that Wayne wanted to save Rachel. Heck, Harvey wanted Batman to save Rachel.ere's an interesting excerpt from the novelisation for /i]ing the charity event in Bruce's pe... More | |
Posted by Emyr Thy King at 03:51, 13 September 2012 | Report This Post | |
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| L: cerebusboy Woah, two Batman threads at once Chris, impressive! /quote] Haven't you heard? I'm omnipresent. As well as omniscient. Although this occasionally mistaken for pedantry... ... More | |
Posted by chris kilby at 15:50, 25 August 2012 | Report This Post | |
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| L: cerebusboy 'Realism', even assuming it is necessarily contrary to genre fiction, is a recent innovation, a literary cul-de-sac. To posit it as the only mechanism for serious themes is demonstrable nonsense. recisely my argument against Jimmy McGovern's criticism of the likes of Wholly, it's Clive Barker's argument: if you lazily dismiss all non-realistic, non-naturalistic fiction, you're invalidating a lot of the literary canon - Shakespeare, Dickens, all the ancient myths and legend... More | |
Posted by chris kilby at 13:54, 25 August 2012 | Report This Post | |
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| L: chris kilby L: cerebusboy L: chris kilby L: cerebusboy As for "plot holes", Batman would have reacted as he did if ANYONE had been thrown out of the window, and people are presupposing he had further need to kill/capture hostages. Joker has a plan, Dent wasn't there, Rachel was thrown out the window. You can claim it's more in keeping with his character to kill all the hostages, but I'd disagree. Joker has a plan (I know he says he doesn't but Bad guys lie!)... More | |
Posted by cerebusboy at 13:48, 25 August 2012 | Report This Post | |
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| L: cerebusboy Well said dude. Except for the bit where you call Killing Joke overrated and praise Jeph Loeb /quote] I didn't actually praise Loeb. I merely pointed out that g Halloweeny inspired k Knightarily Maroni and the idea that, Heisenberg-like, Batman's very existence has led to a power shift from traditional gangsters to freaks. I thought it was OK, but it still read like Miller's sloppy seconds. Most Batman comics do, which is why I don't read so many super hero comics th... More | |
Posted by chris kilby at 13:44, 25 August 2012 | Report This Post | |
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| L: cerebusboy L: chris kilby L: cerebusboy As for "plot holes", Batman would have reacted as he did if ANYONE had been thrown out of the window, and people are presupposing he had further need to kill/capture hostages. Joker has a plan, Dent wasn't there, Rachel was thrown out the window. You can claim it's more in keeping with his character to kill all the hostages, but I'd disagree. Joker has a plan (I know he says he doesn't but Bad guys lie!) . eah, but the... More | |
Posted by chris kilby at 13:38, 25 August 2012 | Report This Post | |
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| L: cerebusboy Woah, two Batman threads at once Chris, impressive! /quote] That's nuthin'. The other day you thought I was on the same thread twice at the same time! ... More | |
Posted by chris kilby at 13:36, 25 August 2012 | Report This Post | |
| RE: The Dark Knight | |
| L: chris kilby L: cerebusboy As for "plot holes", Batman would have reacted as he did if ANYONE had been thrown out of the window, and people are presupposing he had further need to kill/capture hostages. Joker has a plan, Dent wasn't there, Rachel was thrown out the window. You can claim it's more in keeping with his character to kill all the hostages, but I'd disagree. Joker has a plan (I know he says he doesn't but Bad guys lie!) . eah, but the only reason The Joker ... More | |
Posted by cerebusboy at 13:33, 25 August 2012 | Report This Post | |
| RE: The Dark Knight | |
| L: cerebusboy As for "plot holes", Batman would have reacted as he did if ANYONE had been thrown out of the window, and people are presupposing he had further need to kill/capture hostages. Joker has a plan, Dent wasn't there, Rachel was thrown out the window. You can claim it's more in keeping with his character to kill all the hostages, but I'd disagree. Joker has a plan (I know he says he doesn't but Bad guys lie!) . eah, but the only reason The Joker was there in the first p... More | |
Posted by chris kilby at 13:31, 25 August 2012 | Report This Post | |
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| L: chris kilby L: elab49 L: Rgirvan44 The Joker doesn't need to know Batman is Bruce. needed to note was that Batman went for her without thinking. mind he figures out that she is important to him. In fact the whole Coleman Reese subplot is about the Joker no longer wishing to know who Batman is. It is pretty much established that Wayne wanted to save Rachel. Heck, Harvey wanted Batman to save Rachel. his. He doesn't know. He also doesn't really care. thi... More | |
Posted by cerebusboy at 13:25, 25 August 2012 | Report This Post | |
| RE: The Dark Knight | |
| L: elab49 L: Rgirvan44 The Joker doesn't need to know Batman is Bruce. needed to note was that Batman went for her without thinking. mind he figures out that she is important to him. In fact the whole Coleman Reese subplot is about the Joker no longer wishing to know who Batman is. It is pretty much established that Wayne wanted to save Rachel. Heck, Harvey wanted Batman to save Rachel. his. He doesn't know. He also doesn't really care. think he knows (or at least... More | |
Posted by chris kilby at 13:20, 25 August 2012 | Report This Post | |
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| L: cerebusboy L: jobloffski It. Does. No. Good. And this Still good to talk though - people joked about the thread getting to 100 pages but, if everyone pulls together for the cause, I think it's an achievable goal! that said, obviously if the on-topic discussion stops then I wouldn't want to just continue the thread indefinitely. ... More | |
Posted by cerebusboy at 17:38, 24 August 2012 | Report This Post | |
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| L: jobloffski It. Does. No. Good. And this ... More | |
Posted by cerebusboy at 17:31, 24 August 2012 | Report This Post | |
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| L: jobloffski Been in the TDKR thread, commented at length, on such subjects as WHY WOULD GORDON SEND ALL THE COPS TO THE SEWERS, with suggestions such as the previous films showed grave actions when a threat wasn't acted upon immediately, Gordon is eaten up with guilt by the consequences of not acting sooner, and when seeing something that could be even worse, it was in character to try and make up for it by going in heavy, and fast, and not waiting to consult others. Also, answ... More | |
Posted by cerebusboy at 17:29, 24 August 2012 | Report This Post | |
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| L: jobloffski L: cerebusboy L: jobloffski It is schematic, that's the point, it's just how well you layer things on so that the skeleton doesn't show. For instance, I didn't mention 'dramatic apex' that according to this schematic structure is the point of no return for the story, it will now unstoppably flow towards an inevitable conclusion because there is a choice that must be made. To take Jaws as an example, when Brody's son is nearly attacked by the shark, it... More | |
Posted by cerebusboy at 17:28, 24 August 2012 | Report This Post | |
| RE: The Dark Knight | |
| L: cerebusboy L: cerebusboy L: jobloffski It is schematic, that's the point, it's just how well you layer things on so that the skeleton doesn't show. For instance, I didn't mention 'dramatic apex' that according to this schematic structure is the point of no return for the story, it will now unstoppably flow towards an inevitable conclusion because there is a choice that must be made. To take Jaws as an example, when Brody's son is nearly attacked by the shark,... More | |
Posted by cerebusboy at 17:21, 24 August 2012 | Report This Post | |
| RE: The Dark Knight | |
| L: cerebusboy L: jobloffski It is schematic, that's the point, it's just how well you layer things on so that the skeleton doesn't show. For instance, I didn't mention 'dramatic apex' that according to this schematic structure is the point of no return for the story, it will now unstoppably flow towards an inevitable conclusion because there is a choice that must be made. To take Jaws as an example, when Brody's son is nearly attacked by the shark, it is basically slap bang... More | |
Posted by jobloffski at 17:14, 24 August 2012 | Report This Post | |
| RE: The Dark Knight | |
| L: cerebusboy L: jobloffski It is schematic, that's the point, it's just how well you layer things on so that the skeleton doesn't show. For instance, I didn't mention 'dramatic apex' that according to this schematic structure is the point of no return for the story, it will now unstoppably flow towards an inevitable conclusion because there is a choice that must be made. To take Jaws as an example, when Brody's son is nearly attacked by the shark, it is basically slap b... More | |
Posted by cerebusboy at 16:50, 24 August 2012 | Report This Post | |
| RE: The Dark Knight | |
| L: jobloffski It is schematic, that's the point, it's just how well you layer things on so that the skeleton doesn't show. For instance, I didn't mention 'dramatic apex' that according to this schematic structure is the point of no return for the story, it will now unstoppably flow towards an inevitable conclusion because there is a choice that must be made. To take Jaws as an example, when Brody's son is nearly attacked by the shark, it is basically slap bang in the middle of th... More | |
Posted by cerebusboy at 16:45, 24 August 2012 | Report This Post | |
| RE: The Dark Knight | |
| It is schematic, that's the point, it's just how well you layer things on so that the skeleton doesn't show. For instance, I didn't mention 'dramatic apex' that according to this schematic structure is the point of no return for the story, it will now unstoppably flow towards an inevitable conclusion because there is a choice that must be made. To take Jaws as an example, when Brody's son is nearly attacked by the shark, it is basically slap bang in the middle of the running time (where t... More | |
Posted by jobloffski at 16:38, 24 August 2012 | Report This Post | |
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| L: jobloffski L: cerebusboy L: Fluke Skywalker L: giggity I also would have preferred that Nolan used Prosthetics for Two Face, although his excuse for using CGI was that Make up just added to the face, whereas a burn is supposed to take away from the face, using CGI was the only way to get that effect. While I would have preferred make up it doesn't really take me out of the film. 've been a bit 50-50 about Two Face as well, the injuries look so extreme i... More | |
Posted by cerebusboy at 16:15, 24 August 2012 | Report This Post | |
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| L: jobloffski L: cerebusboy L: Fluke Skywalker L: giggity I also would have preferred that Nolan used Prosthetics for Two Face, although his excuse for using CGI was that Make up just added to the face, whereas a burn is supposed to take away from the face, using CGI was the only way to get that effect. While I would have preferred make up it doesn't really take me out of the film. 've been a bit 50-50 about Two Face as well, the injuries look so extreme i... More | |
Posted by cerebusboy at 16:14, 24 August 2012 | Report This Post | |
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