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The Oscar Nominations: Our Take

Posted on Tuesday January 22, 2008, 18:03 by Olly Richards
The Oscar Nominations: Our Take

Helen: Well, another set of nominations, another round of blitherings from the two of us. So my first impressions are that this is very much the list that everyone expected, and that I CAN’T BELIEVE NORBIT HAS AN OSCAR NOMINATION. Admittedly it’s for make-up, and the make-up was reasonably solid, but come on! Surely there should be a rule protecting the Academy’s reputation by preventing films this bad being nominated for anything. Ahem. But well done to Rick Baker et al, obviously. So let’s start with the big one, Best Picture. Not a bad five, even if Michael Clayton stole The Assassination of Jesse James’ place and it could have gone either way between Into The Wild and Juno, but surely it’s a two-horse race between the two Western-set dramas, isn’t it? Atonement won’t win, given that it hasn’t got a matching Director nomination, and the others aren’t quite Oscary enough – or are they?

Olly: Don’t ye discount Juno, Miss O’Hara. The two Westerns, being equally celebrated, could split the vote and leave the way open for cheery little Juno and her enormous bump to steal the prize. I for one would be delighted to see that happen. No Country and There Will Be Blood are terrific films – better technically than Juno – but Juno was the most fun I had in a cinema in 2007. Michael Clayton absolutely baffles me. It was like a very good TV pilot, not a great film. Although I can’t question the acting nods. Atonement’s going home empty handed, even though I’m thrilled to see Saoirse Ronan recognised. How’s about those Actress noms? I don’t think this is a particularly strong year for female acting roles, but I was disappointed to see Amy Adams not in the running for Enchanted. She should be sitting in Cate Blanchett’s little square.

Helen: And Angelina Jolie should be there for A Mighty Heart – I think the rest of that film let her down, because she was terrific. I’d be happy to see Juno win – it’s that likeable – but, while I’m not discounting it, I’d be amazed. It’s a shoo-in for Best Original Screenplay though, the traditional category for Little Indie Films That Could (and it’s good to see Ratatouille recognised there too). Anyway, acting-wise this is a list that Oscar can be proud of – excepting the aforementioned unnecessary leading Blanchett nod and omission of Jolie and Adams. It’s got the underappreciated Assassination on there, they’ve nominated Tommy Lee Jones for the right film, and they have gone beyond the big names with Dee and Ronan. Well done, the voters! Directors is a little more unusual – Julian Schnabel is there without a corresponding Best Film nod, while Joe Wright has sadly missed out for Atonement (if that film was to get one nomination, surely his should be the one). Can he win without a Best Film nod? The statistics say no.

Olly: And, on the acting front, let’s not forget Hal Holbrook. That’s a really smart nomination on the part of the Academy. Directing wise, no Schnabel’s out of it. As much as I love the movie, I can’t see Jason Reitman taking home a little guy either. Nobody can tell me that Tony Gilroy is the best director in that field and if they try I shall put my fingers in my ears and scream PAUL THOMAS ANDERSON until they go away. I’m putting my vote with PT. No Country For Old Men is stunning, but I don’t think as much of a risk. There Will Be Blood features directorial touches – the near silent opening, the unsettling use of music, the complete command of changing pace, not to mention the flat out gorgeous framing – that entire theses could be written on. Sure, it’s somewhat histrionic in moments (“DRRRRAAAAINAAAAAGE!”), but I think the only thing that comes close to it this year as a piece of direction is Ratatouille.

Helen: I don’t disagree, it’s the most mind-blowing film I’ve seen all year, but don’t discount the Coens. They have form, in that they have been nominated before (well, technically just Joel was, but let’s split neither hairs nor brothers) and haven’t won, they are generally considered two of the best American directors working today, they have had something of a return to form with this film and it’s very arguably as ace as There Will Be Blood. Those two films alone would make this a great year for cinema. Incidentally, I think you’re right on about Ratatouille – the ghettoisation of animation should stop, we gotta get films that good back into the main categories. But speaking of the illustrated films, Oscar have thoroughly shamed the Globes and the BAFTAs this year by nominating the three best animated films of the year, instead of the three biggest. No Shreks, Simpsons or Bee Movies here, but the mighty Ratatouille, the gorgeous Persepolis and the strangely adorable, even for a penguin-hater like myself, Surf’s Up.

Olly: Yes, if I could pull off actually shouting out ‘whoop-whoop’ without looking like a moron, I would be whoop-whooping all over the shop. I’m so happy about all three. My fingers were crossed that the snubbing of Persepolis in Foreign Film would mean a shot in animation, but I didn’t expect Surf’s Up. I honestly think that film features some of the best animation voice work I’ve heard (seen?). And the animation of the water? Wow. I love that film more every time I see it. On the Coens, I take your point on career reward. I’d never discount them, nor be anything other than delighted if they won, but I’ve still got an Anderson feeling. Talking of No Country, Javier Bardem a cert for Best Supporting Actor? Or will Casey Affleck, the sole Assassination of Jesse James nominee, pull an upset? Or may even Hal Holbrook, for being not only perfect in Into The Wild (hey, just thought, whither Emile Hirsch?) but pretty old too?

Helen: Bardem’d be my guess, but I don’t think there’s a cert in that category. Holbrook could take it for longevity, always a powerful weapon come Oscar-time; Affleck could take it for a revelatory performance; Hoffman for a fabulously funny character turn from a very consistent performer or Wilkinson for being consistently good and British (hey, it doesn’t hurt!). Best Supporting Actress will be, I guess, Cate Blanchett – unless she splits her own vote. If she does, I’m guess Amy Ryan is next in line, with strong jostling from the (probably too-well-mannered-to-jostle) Tilda Swinton. Ruby Dee and Saoirse Ronan are, sadly, the outsiders, I’m guessing. How about the Screenplay categories? Does No Country pip There Will Be Blood in Best Adapted for the fidelity of its translation? Can anything challenge Juno for Original?

Olly: I think Supporting Actress is the one where any of them could win it and be considered deserving. If anything does challenge Juno for Original Screenplay I will roll my eyes with all my might and exhale as dramatically as possible. That’ll learn ‘em. Actually, I wouldn’t be sad to see Ratatouille win, but the others don’t touch Juno, for me (though I haven’t managed to see Lars and the Real Girl yet, although I will). Surely, Best Adapted is the Coens’? Atonement doesn’t have the support, Away From Her is a shock nominee, There Will Be Blood is a tad sparse on words and The Diving Bell and the Butterfly wasn’t considered worthy of Best Picture. We don’t need to discuss Best Actor, do we? It’s Day Lewis’s, plain and simple. If anybody else wins Hollywood will fall over.

Helen: No argument, it’s Day Lewis. Not that the others aren’t good, but it doesn’t feel possible to look past him. Lars, incidentally, is also good and funny and sweet but not so good that it should beat Juno (or, indeed, Ratatouille), and I think Adapted should be the Coens’ too. Just to zip quickly through some of the rest, it’s great to see The Assassination of Jesse James By The Really Long Title up for Cinematography – that one shot of a train rounding the bend (if you’ve seen it, you’ll know exactly what I mean) deserves an Oscar, although any of them could take it. Bourne and Transformers should share most of the technical categories if there’s any justice, and three cheers for Once landing a Best Song nomination – given Once’s great success Stateside on a tiny budget, given that August Rush sort of vanished and given that Enchanted’s three nominations are likely to split its vote, I think it might even win. And as for Best Score, it’s a shame that There Will Be Blood was ruled ineligible (on the basis that much of the music in the film is classical in origin rather than part of Jonny Greenwood’s blistering score) but the rest feel worthy.

Olly: Hear hear for Once. Almost thought it would get more nominations. Overall, this is a list of nominations that I feel almost no anger about and that’s very rare for the Oscars. I’m disappointed by the lack of brilliant documentary entries, but this wasn’t a great year for factual filming, so Oscar can hardly be blamed. I’m confused as to how Pirates 3 got a make-up nod when all the best stuff was digital. Still think Michael Clayton is over-represented, but it’s got to be a good year when the one film you think has too many nods is still a very good movie. Generally, I’m delighted. Let’s hope the WGA can finally make a deal they’re happy with so that we can actually watch what promises to be a great show.

Helen: Amen to that last bit. After all, what’s really important is not honouring the films that have made us laugh, cry and hurl over the past year, but the ceremony itself. Ridiculous dresses, handsome suits, beautiful people, so many diamonds that Blofeld could build a world-threatening satellite laser of considerable power from them and Jon Stewart wittily making up for the general lack of eloquence on the part of the nominees – what’s not to love? Also, moments like this. Roll on the Oscars.

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1 jighooligan
Posted on Tuesday January 22, 2008, 22:26
Ellen Page needs to win Best Actress!!!!!

2 wooz
Posted on Wednesday January 23, 2008, 10:29
Jeez, There Will Be Blood is being hyped here to the nines. Ebert tells me it's not a great film, but a good one. As opposed to No Country, which is a great film, and a perfect one. I agree with him whole-heartedly about No Country, and wait excitedly to see if There Will Be Blood is as good as Empire's making out.

3 Charliebois
Posted on Wednesday January 23, 2008, 13:41
Norbit? Oh my goodness, that film was bad. Maybe they got their Razzie and Oscar voting slips mixed up? It is a huge shame that Jesse James isn't there, for me the best film of 2007. I enjoyed Michael Clayton but it really doesn't deserve the credit it appears to be getting. I'm equally saddened that Into the Wild, Lust, Caution and The Diving Bell and the Butterfly aren't in there. Harumph! What do they know!??!?!

4 dgjohnston
Posted on Wednesday January 23, 2008, 14:31
I really, really hope Juno wins one of teh big awards. Whether it is best actress or best movie. Just something a bit different, but I doubt it will, unfortunately.

5 mserpico88
Posted on Wednesday January 23, 2008, 15:57
Myself - rooting for all the awards No Country has been deservedly nominated for and will hopefully, by the good grace of Lord, win.

Best actress: Ellen Page. [obviously]
Best actor: I feel Day-Lewis deserves to win, however so do Tommy Lee Jones for "Elah" and Mortensen for "Eastern Promises". I'm more on Jones' side.
Don't care about best animated feature.

6 Leomuse
Posted on Wednesday January 23, 2008, 20:09
Everything I've read about and seen of Juno makes me think I will dislike it very much.

7 scottyjamison313
Posted on Wednesday January 23, 2008, 23:56
I would love norbit to win just for shear haha sake, and plus it could go down in history as the only film ever to win both an oscar and razzie, dnt think it will happen but wud love it.

8 scottyjamison313
Posted on Wednesday January 23, 2008, 23:58
Shame on academy for not nominated jesse james, miles better than michael clayton. I would also have loved to seen into the wild get nominated, maybe over atonement or juno in best pic and diving bell director in that category. it was my fave film of 2007 (apart from ratatouille).

9 emily1212
Posted on Thursday January 24, 2008, 01:01
If Once does not win Best Song, it will be a travesty. As much as I enjoyed Enchanted, Falling Slowly is wonderful. Fingers crossed the Academy agrees.

10 LeChuck
Posted on Thursday January 24, 2008, 01:38
Bravo Olly and Helen for your continuing support of the excellent but strangely unfashionable Surf's Up; just watched it on Empire's recommendation, and found it to be an original, inventive, well-acted and thoroughly charming little film, that kicked seven bells out of the muddled yet strangely better-received Happy Feet, in my view. Not seen Persepolis yet, but given its reputation, I too am really happy with this year's animated category, and wouldn't be disappointed to see any of them win (unlike Happy Feet's robbery of Cars' gong last year, not to mention the snub of Flushed Away).

Also, I'm going to have to disagree with the general consensus on Best Song; I simply cannot see past Enchanted's "That's How You Know", which is quite possibly the greatest song in the whole world...

11 leighheartfilm
Posted on Thursday January 24, 2008, 02:05
juno was excellent and so well written, it deserves recognition, im glad the academy isn't going for the obvious, little miss sunshine did well last year, so juno may be the surprise success.

12 benskelly
Posted on Thursday January 24, 2008, 06:24
Well said. It's good to see a wide open field with no one film hogging the spotlight - and it's impossible to begrudge Daniel Day Lewis or Javier Bardem for being such shoo-ins. Great actors and nice guys.

How weird will it be if Cate Blanchett has won two supporting Oscars for playing Katherine Hepburn and Bob Dylan??

I can see the Trivial Pursuit question now: Which actress won Oscars for portraying two other Oscar winners?


13 holsy
Posted on Thursday January 24, 2008, 11:22
And talking about Surf's Up, i just decided to stick that on again last night, because of the nom, and will also say it was excellent and gorgeous animation just to look at. Like you guys said im glad they didint just go for the Ogres and Bees which made more money but were by far the inferior. But surely that statue will be the final ingredient in a great year for Rats. I actually bought 2 pet rats and called them Remy and Amiele. Their a class act i can tell you. Best Actress should go to Ellen Page and i agree that Blanchett doesnt really belong this year, though she should get supporting for Im Not There. Best Actor will surely come down to Lewis or Jones, i have yet to see either film so i cant say which i prefer. Best Film should go to No Country if the Acadmey dont shy away from its violent nature.

14 mrsmiawallace85
Posted on Thursday January 24, 2008, 11:29
where's zodiac?once again ignored.other than that - relatively happy, though do agree with the Amy Adams for best actress over Cate Blanchett.

15 Leomuse
Posted on Friday January 25, 2008, 22:01
Having now seen Juno I must say that if the producers, Ellen Page and (especially) screenwriter Diablo Cody win any Oscars it will be a travesty.
The film is very, very poorly written, Page's performance is nothing special (and highly grating) and the film as a whole is not at all amusing and any emotional attachment I had was not even towards the protagonist.
Like Little Miss Sunshine, it's an independent film receiving a ridiculous amount of hype despite a lack of any real substance. Admittedly, LMS was better than this.

16 Leomuse
Posted on Saturday January 26, 2008, 01:10
Oh, and Jason Reitman too. I forgot about his bizarre nomination.

17 K Steele
Posted on Sunday January 27, 2008, 01:10
I think that all of the acting nominations are well deserved. It would be brilliant if Cate Blanchett won in both categories because she's such a great actress but with strong competition who knows. After winning the Golden Globe though she's bound to have a good chance at winning for I'm Not There. I would love for there to be some british talent winning in the leading role categoies. No Country for Old Men should basically just win everything it's nominated for because it was superb.

18 Aluisio
Posted on Sunday January 27, 2008, 17:20
Marion Cotillard for Best Actress! I know the fact the movie is in French hurts her chances, but she's been my favourite since June, and I'm so thrilled that she got in! Her Edith Piaf incarnation is flawless.

19 holsy
Posted on Monday January 28, 2008, 12:25
I have also just thought about The Assassination of Jesse James...........
Its an absolute sin that this film as come away with only a single nomination, when the average Michael Clayton as four or so. Surley Pitt was more deserving of a nod than George Clooney and it should have got a best film nod instead of Michael Clayton. Dont get me wrong i did like Michael Clayton, but i honestly believe it simply doesnt belong and it has essentialy nicked noms that belong to far stronger and more deserving films, such as Jesse James or maybe Zodiac!!!

20 jcallan
Posted on Monday January 28, 2008, 18:12
Juno can just fuck off completely. It was over hyped, overrated indie bullshit that blatantly stole from Little Miss Sunshine, and the dialog was awful.

Ellen Page might some day deserve a Best Actress Award, but not for this film.



Oh, and No Country better win, or there will be blood. And guts.


21 Southall Sissoko
Posted on Monday January 28, 2008, 21:46
Disappointed - but not surprised - that Ratatouille didn't get noms for Best Film or Best Director, especially when considering that Michael Clayton and Juno are in for both!

22 big_airch
Posted on Wednesday January 30, 2008, 02:30
George Clooney is a terribly good looking bloke, but he has a truly bizarre hold over the academy when he manages to bump James McAvoy from best actor & Tony Gilroy's staid direction get the nod over Joe Wright's incredibly delicate, but brilliant effort. Glad to see Keira didn't get nominated though, she was the lead weight which couldn't drag down McAvoy's pitch perfect effort.

23 Frank Comiskey
Posted on Wednesday January 30, 2008, 12:50
What a year for Best Actor;

Clooney gets the nod simply for looking fat and exhausted.

Day Lewis takes time out from building chairs to impersonate John Huston; (there's a v obscure 'Buff's' irony there, but we'll let it go.)

Depp does Off-Key Bowie.

Lee-Jones does yet another of his finely-tuned pessimists, (he certainly deserved a gong for Cobb).

The only real acting stretch is Viggo, and the fight in the baths is simply a classic. He was seemingly a sweetheart with my brother's pal who was his assistant; all he really asked for was a steady supply of Cadbury's chocolate...............


24 paul_ie86
Posted on Wednesday January 30, 2008, 22:40
Is anybody else outraged that Robert Downey Jr. didn't get a Supporting Actor nomination.

25 Ricorodrigeuz
Posted on Wednesday February 13, 2008, 20:13
I'm glad to see Transformers nominated for three oscars which should win all of them. I would be happy if Bourne and Pirates would win at least one as well.

26 ElliotFalconer
Posted on Thursday February 21, 2008, 20:26
Honest to Blog!! I LOVED Juno - but it just simply won't win; like Helen said, I just don't think it's oscar material. It will be a travesty if Diablo Cody doesn't win - the script was fantastic/hilarious!
Ellen Paige was amazing, suited the part perfectly. But she won't win. Its PRETTY damn sealed that one of the two major westerns will win. But maybe a shock win?

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