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World Excl: Jackson/Del Toro Talk Hobbit
The duo reveal the make-up of both films

17 April 2009  |  Written by Chris Hewitt  

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And the world exclusives from our 20th birthday issue – guest-edited by Steven Spielberg – continue to pile up…

We’ve known for a while that Peter Jackson and Guillermo Del Toro’s eagerly-awaited adaptation of the Lord Of The Rings prequel, The Hobbit, would comprise two movies, due in December 2011 and 2012. But the make-up of those two movies has been up for debate… until now.

We spoke exclusively to both Del Toro and Jackson for our birthday issue, and they told us the latest, which is…

“We’ve decided to have The Hobbit span the two movies, including the White Council and the comings and goings of Gandalf to Dol Guldur,” says Del Toro.

“We decided it would be a mistake to try to cram everything into one movie,” adds Jackson. “The essential brief was to do The Hobbit, and it allows us to make The Hobbit in a little more style, if you like, of the [LOTR] trilogy.”

So there you go. The second film will not, as had previously been suggested, a film that will bridge the 60-year gap between The Hobbit and the start of Fellowship Of The Ring.

For much more from Jackson and Del Toro on their plans for the return to Middle-earth, pick up the 20th birthday issue of Empire, on sale next Thursday (23rd April) - or you can pre-order your copy here.

 

 


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RE: Disappointed
L: rich Starting to become kinda cynical about this - whats wrong with one decent 3 hour movie? The Hobbit isn't exactly split anywhere. That plus the fact that after the Hellboy 2 fiasco I sort of question Del Toro's work in English, adds to my growing doubts. They could at least release them closer together, or does that not make enough cash? sp; Starting to become kinda cynical about this too rich - I mean the LOTR trilogy was just a cynical cash in, were they not happy after t More

Posted by Keith M at 00:16 on 24 April 2009 | Report This Post

Sounds frickin' sweet
i am really looking forward to the hobbit i think it is going to be really good but i dont think that they need to split it into two movies they're probably just trying to make more money by making to productions (not needed but its still going to be awesome. More

Posted by crofty999 at 20:02 on 23 April 2009 | Report This Post

RE: Disappointed
Starting to become kinda cynical about this - whats wrong with one decent 3 hour movie? The Hobbit isn't exactly split anywhere. That plus the fact that after the Hellboy 2 fiasco I sort of question Del Toro's work in English, adds to my growing doubts. They could at least release them closer together, or does that not make enough cash? More

Posted by rich at 20:11 on 20 April 2009 | Report This Post

Disappointed
I was looking forward to seeing a movie that spanned events between The Hobbit and LOTR.....mainly because I read the books, but simply haven't the patience to read Tolkien Appendices or Silmarillion-style history books (and I did try!). More

Posted by Hillsman at 10:45 on 20 April 2009 | Report This Post

RE: RE:
L: Jayseph SPOILER WARNNG FOR ANYONE WHO HAS NEVER READ THE BOOK!! (shame on you....) How're Del Toro and Jackson going to work the bit with the Trolls? Surely LotR has already established that Trolls can quite happily exist in sunlight and aren't the most articulate of creatures. The Hobbit has them holding conversations and then turning to stone when the sun rises?? dark cloud covers the army in ROTK so the trolls wont be affected, simple as More

Posted by krudler at 21:37 on 19 April 2009 | Report This Post

It will be a cool.
From the guys who gave us The Lord of the Rings Trilogy, Pan's Labyrinth and the Hellboy films? how can there be any doubt? More

Posted by Snake-Eyes at 16:49 on 19 April 2009 | Report This Post

RE: World Excl: Jackson/Del Toro Talk Hobbit
This is appalling news. I have just spent the weekend watching the extended versions of all three Lord of the Rings films and they are wonderful (well, the elves are kind of boring, actually). But the Hobbit? Two films? C'mon. The Hobbit's charm is the simplicity of its story-telling. It cracks along at a decent pace and has none of the pomposity, self-importance or occasional tedium (there, I said it) of the Lord of the Rings. If ever a book was crying out for a brisk 90-minute adaptati More

Posted by Jonny Maelstrom at 15:09 on 19 April 2009 | Report This Post

RE: RE:
L: Jayseph SPOILER WARNNG FOR ANYONE WHO HAS NEVER READ THE BOOK!! (shame on you....) How're Del Toro and Jackson going to work the bit with the Trolls? Surely LotR has already established that Trolls can quite happily exist in sunlight and aren't the most articulate of creatures. The Hobbit has them holding conversations and then turning to stone when the sun rises?? ell you see the three stone trolls in the first LotR film... Sam points them out after Frodo gets stabbed I thin More

Posted by Andy7x at 13:36 on 19 April 2009 | Report This Post

RE:
SPOILER WARNNG FOR ANYONE WHO HAS NEVER READ THE BOOK!! (shame on you....)   How're Del Toro and Jackson going to work the bit with the Trolls? Surely LotR has already established that Trolls can quite happily exist in sunlight and aren't the most articulate of creatures. The Hobbit has them holding conversations and then turning to stone when the sun rises?? More

Posted by Jayseph at 13:19 on 19 April 2009 | Report This Post

I was pleased to read that Del Toro is doing this. He has a talent for fairy tales and the Hobbit is a good old fashioned fairy tale. However I would of prefered Jackson as far away from this project as possible and for him to go back to tuning lawn mowers. More

Posted by Geosolus at 11:27 on 19 April 2009 | Report This Post

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L: crazymoviesdude Shane, you sound like a dick. I'm a bit troubled about how they will end the first film, because it should feel like one story, so in order to have the first film actually not just end abruptly, they will need to give it kind of a climax, and then they will not feel so much like 1 story, though I'm still super psyched. eah, god forbid he should express an opinion you disagree with. his is good news as far as I'm concerned and with the talent involved I trust it wil More

Posted by Mr Underhill at 01:02 on 19 April 2009 | Report This Post

Crazymoviesdude, I'm a dick cause I don't like a book?
Jesus. Is the point of a forum not to allow people express an opinion? I'm not gonna resort to name-calling (you already embarrass yourself enough with that username) but I will say fuck you calling me a dick for not liking some 70 year old book that was essentially a warm-up for the trilogy. And the trilogy? Not all that either. Awesome movies, boring read. More

Posted by shanewire at 00:26 on 19 April 2009 | Report This Post

2 parts is ok but where will the break be. There's not much climactic half way through the book. Unless they're going to use the unwritten attack on Dol Guldur. A good point, I suppose, to reintroduce Aragorn, Saruman and the other member of the White Council. But pleeeeez not a year wait betwenn the 2 parts. Xmas and folllowimg summer release is long enough. More

Posted by steveg66 at 20:29 on 18 April 2009 | Report This Post

RE:
hate films being split in two and having to pay twice. After the Kill Bill fiasco I refused to see Grindhouse and Che in its seperate parts and I'm boycotting Harry Potter 7 because the filmmakers couldn't be arsed or didn't have the talent to condense a book into one screenplay but I don't want to do that with this. Del Toro is clearly an amazing director and I don't believe he's doing it for the money (I think he gave up his salary for Pan's Labyrinth in order to spend more on the film so I d More

Posted by Dave B at 20:15 on 18 April 2009 | Report This Post

i think they should space part1 and part2 a lil closer to one another, not the same amount of time as che pt1 and pt2 but not a whole year More

Posted by Ryan Sylar at 16:25 on 18 April 2009 | Report This Post

Good news
I think this is great news, the thought of a `new' story for the second movie was a bad idea, expanding `The Hobbit' is much better, Toilken himself filled in some of those gaps in the story, ie The White Council etc in his later work and it means we get to see Galadriel arguing with Sauraman and it means that some of the action bits in the book which are quite brief can be expanded, Trolls, Orcs, Wargs, Shapechanging Bears, Spiders, wood eleves, 5 armies, and of course Smaug... wahoo! More

Posted by dave1159 at 15:26 on 18 April 2009 | Report This Post

No hack filler-material movie!!
And there was MUCH rejoicing!!! More

Posted by emperorglenuff at 14:46 on 18 April 2009 | Report This Post

idiots
i cant believe how much everyone is moaning. You have two of the best directors in the business working on this film and the LOTR's films were amazing, I can not wait for this and i could not give a monkeys if they are splitting in too two films More

Posted by cookio1982 at 11:57 on 18 April 2009 | Report This Post

RE: Hobbit
So, what they really mean is: "We want to make double the amount of cash, so we're splitting a 300 page book into 2 films." More

Posted by rupert303 at 09:50 on 18 April 2009 | Report This Post

Hobbit
I think you are right dude, Hobbit is BORING! RT Edit - link removed More

Posted by rttech82 at 04:33 on 18 April 2009 | Report This Post

I HAVE A BAD FEELING ABOUT THIS........
But I hope I'm wrong. Do ya remember that huge gap between the last Star Wars film and the prequels about 16 years right? sometimes when we are asked to wait too long for a follow-up, we get a little er, over enthusiastic. The result being a big disappointment when it turns out to be not what we were expecting. I live in hope for good things, I really do. More

Posted by boredbluekoala at 22:45 on 17 April 2009 | Report This Post

Thank God!
I feel the hobbit could be stretched quite well over two films if done right, especially if you want to capture the feel of the LOTR movies. Whereas a bridge film could completely balls it up....COMPLETELY......In comparison to the LOTR novels the hobbit feels quite rushed anyway (yes, i know its a childrens book). So maybe a relax in pacing and an extension of specific scenes and character backgrounds will be quite interesting. And lots of big long violent battles :D More

Posted by BrooksyTHX1138 at 22:33 on 17 April 2009 | Report This Post

Del Toro hinted this some time last autumn, that the first film would revolve just around Smaug and the second would very much deal with the darkness enroaching Middle-earth: the tension before the battle of the Five Armies exemplifies the world of The Hobbit becoming that of LOTR, where Elves and Dwarves clearly distrust each other, but only unite to fight a common enemy. More

Posted by doctorolorinbats1975 at 22:04 on 17 April 2009 | Report This Post

Shane, you sound like a dick. I'm a bit troubled about how they will end the first film, because it should feel like one story, so in order to have the first film actually not just end abruptly, they will need to give it kind of a climax, and then they will not feel so much like 1 story, though I'm still super psyched. More

Posted by crazymoviesdude at 20:43 on 17 April 2009 | Report This Post

come on empire that's not news that's half news and advert for the mag. More

Posted by Knight of Fury at 19:53 on 17 April 2009 | Report This Post

PHEW
Thank fuq for that.Now i'm pummped for this rather than concerned. More

Posted by danbo1138 at 19:46 on 17 April 2009 | Report This Post

Oh my point was I wanted the bridge movie
Got sidetracked More

Posted by shanewire at 19:13 on 17 April 2009 | Report This Post

Awwww. But the Hobbit's boring
Watever. I guess they're going to throw in a shitload of awesome action but I still dunno will I be able to make it through that fucking intro dinner thing where the dwarves want food or that long-ass bit where gandalf says something about having a score, a dozen, a pair of dwarves. Or something. More

Posted by shanewire at 19:13 on 17 April 2009 | Report This Post

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