| Back away from the franchise |
Del Toro is a terrific visionary director, but two films? Leave it alone. Just make one, then do something else. More
Posted by dodger9uk at 23:03 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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I'm positive, despite being negative on the whole second film bit. and toro will be great, but jackson has pretty much defined it in LOTR, so it seems del toro is a little bit of a waste of talent, or am i being silly? More
Posted by drake22 at 22:37 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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| Cant Wait |
Just the idea of these two guys working together is mouthwatering.Im really glad that hes keeping with some of the original cast so it doesnt feel completly new.I cant wait to find out whos playing Bilbo.I am more excited about this than Indy IV and thats saying something.Its bad that were going to have to wait until 2011 for the first one to come out and if they dont shoot them back to back who knows when the next one will be out. More
Posted by johndaly94 at 21:11 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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I don't have the books to hand, but from memory of The Hobbit, Gandalf refers to 'the Sorcerer' lurking in Mirkwood (following much earlier defeat by Isildur), and then in LOTR refers to him gaining power and returning to Mordor. Thus there is an oblique reference to Sauron in The Hobbit, but no direct link.
The 2nd film may therefore be about Sauron's return to power. Mouthwatering prospect, imho! More
Posted by beancounter at 19:41 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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Well, having read the interview, this guy knows what he has to do. The Jackson/del Toro relationship seems certain to cement. As for Serkis and McKellen, well, that's just the icing on the cake. More
Posted by jonedney at 19:31 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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I thought I'd been banned, the knife was pressed up against my throat when it came back on. Lucky timing, or not. Depends which way you look at it.
Anyway, token effort to be on topic: Very much looking forward to this, I hope he manages to get some deformed babies in jars in the films somewhere. That would be the business.
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Posted by Bowl of Wrong at 18:33 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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| Fuck sake empire |
Look, I don't care if you have a bewildering obsession with Del Toro and for some reason see him as a totally proven great director (true, Pan's Labrynth was good, but are any of his other films TRULY GREAT??), ...but I know you have accepted the LOTR trilogy as a masterpiece, for which I am greatful for I really believe it is untouchable... so PLEASE don't resort to niggling at details of the greatest ever trilogy just to try and support your boyfriend... not acceptable in my book; leave LOTR a More
Posted by Indran at 18:12 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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| Fuck sake empire |
Look, I don't care if you have a bewildering obsession with Del Toro and for some reason see him as a totally proven great director (true, Pan's Labrynth was good, but are any of his other films TRULY GREAT??), ...but I know you have accepted the LOTR trilogy as a masterpiece, for which I am greatful for I really believe it is untouchable... so PLEASE don't resort to niggling at details of the greatest ever trilogy just to try and support your boyfriend... not acceptable in my book; leave LOTR a More
Posted by Indran at 18:12 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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| Lordy no... |
I was hoping that the two film split might go the way of 'The Hobbit: There' and 'The Hobbit: Back Again'.
But this bridge film idea sounds well dodgy. (and it IS a bridge film, it sits in between the hobbit and the LOTR and tells the 'missing story' (sic) of the 50 year gap.)
Now I know Del Toro is the man and he definately knows fantasy, but the weakest parts of the old LOTR trilogy were when they strayed from the source material - (The 'is aragorn dead?' storyline in TTT and 'Frodo in More
Posted by Hoylus at 18:06 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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| RE: slightly worried |
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about what purpose the second film will have in it. There is no need just leave is as the hobbit and the 3 lord of the rings film, we dont need another film to show us the progression of middle earth.
but glad ian and serkis are back!
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I know JRRT wrote tons of material, unfinnished stories, notes to fill in gaps and timelines .
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enough material to make this midquel pretty canon.
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Posted by Overmind at 17:31 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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about what purpose the second film will have in it. There is no need just leave is as the hobbit and the 3 lord of the rings film, we dont need another film to show us the progression of middle earth.
but glad ian and serkis are back! More
Posted by HarryHavoc at 16:49 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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Del Toro is probably the best director for the job. And learning of this golden tint sounds like it will be good. And this in-betweenquel...sounds interesting. Not sure it will be as good as the Hobbit or LotR though. More
Posted by mafyou at 16:48 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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I felt a great disturbance in the force. As if millions of voices suddenyl cried out in relief and may never be silenced.
Ooops wrong franchise. But by lawks an ordy this is the news I've been waiting for. GO DEL TORO! More
Posted by The Todge at 16:36 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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Before this everyone was worried about McKellen not returning but now he has, we can all rest and worry about if Indy will be any good or not. More
Posted by Ricorodrigeuz at 16:10 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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Try again now. It's slightly possible that I hit the wrong button and banned almost all of the forum by accident. But I prefer to believe that this is just a rumour and it was in fact just the fault of this gremlin I've just pulled from the system and beaten to death.
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olly. We've all had one of those days. Their generally known as mondays More
Posted by livewire at 15:45 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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Oh thank God. Sorry about that. Just to be clear, this was in no way completely my fault and I totally understand everything technical and what all these buttons here do. This red one makes the internet go boomy.
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Posted by Olly Richards at 15:12 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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Working for me too. More
Posted by Larry of Arabia at 15:08 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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It's working now thanks More
Posted by Kazuya at 15:04 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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Try again now. It's slightly possible that I hit the wrong button and banned almost all of the forum by accident. But I prefer to believe that this is just a rumour and it was in fact just the fault of this gremlin I've just pulled from the system and beaten to death. More
Posted by Olly Richards at 15:03 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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What the fuck is up with the forum? I haven't been able to log on for days?? More
Posted by Kazuya at 14:58 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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| Still no forum |
...at least I still can't get on it. Back on topic, the idea of Smaug being done in a Jurassic Stylee is certainly a mouthwatering prospect, if it's done well it'll be awesome More
Posted by skeletonjack at 14:58 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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All those having problems accessing the forum, please try it again now. Hopefully it should be working.
For all those wanting to discuss the Hobbit news, carry on as you were. More
Posted by Olly Richards at 14:51 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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Hey Larry, I am a real person. I guess I'm going to actually have to do some work now then. More
Posted by shool at 14:39 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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can anyone explain the point of the seond Hobbit film please? would they not just film the Silmarillion? More
Posted by pottynoodles at 14:23 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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What am I suppsoed to do until the forum's fixed, speak to real people? More
Posted by Larry of Arabia at 14:18 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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i just let out a little yelp of excitment
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Posted by ilovekaren at 13:40 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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Definately looking forward to the Hobbit slightly more aprehensive about the bridging film but good to hear that some of the old cast of LOTR are going to be involved.
Oh yeah haven't been able to get on the forum at all this weekend and today as well! More
Posted by vernieboy at 13:26 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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Forums knackered for me too.
Great news about this casting though. More
Posted by shool at 13:24 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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yeah its been dead for me for days. help me Olly, my life is in shatters :( More
Posted by kumar at 12:47 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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Yep forums knackered for me too.
Great news on the casting. I'm very interested in what will go on in the second film as well. Fingers crossed they can get everyone back on board. More
Posted by Fanboyslayer at 12:44 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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| hmmm |
Great to have the cast back on board and I like the whole animatronic idea. Not sure sure about this "integral" follow up thingy though. If it's completely new then it can't really be integral can it?
Forum is also still banjaxed for me -at home and at work. More
Posted by Scruffybobby at 12:42 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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the forum is just blank for me as well. nothing happens.
interesting about the animatronic angle...
i can not see how that will work with the dragon unless they use it cleverly like in jurassic park. so close ups of the head etc are animatronic but shots of the thing flying are CGI. that would work nicely. would help the actors react better as well.
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Posted by boove at 12:36 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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the forum is just blank for me as well. nothing happens.
interesting about the animatronic angle...
i can not see how that will work with the dragon unless they use it cleverly like in jurassic park. so close ups of the head etc are animatronic but shots of the thing flying are CGI. that would work nicely. would help the actors react better as well.
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Posted by boove at 12:26 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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| Dead as a parrot |
Olly, the forum's totally dead for me too. You can probably see it as the error is: "Variable is undefined: 'IPBlockedMessage' /forum/session.asp, line 38" which probably means it's IP specific. But it's been dead for most of us (me included) since Friday, and we can only communicate on the Have Your Say bits. Cheers, Rikkie More
Posted by rikkie at 12:26 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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...apart from Bilbo of course. More
Posted by Felix at 12:25 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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Yep, forum is knackered for me too.
What other characters from LOTR feature in The Hobbit then? More
Posted by Felix at 12:24 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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| At last |
I'm so happy at the prospect of del toro directing the hobbut he has the same weird imagination that jackson has so it'll be fun them to working together.
I'm glad that he wants to bring back Ian Mckellen and Andy Serkis and all of the actors who played the parts in rings
he has the right idea and with enough freedom and money i think that he will make the films absolutely brilliant and rightful prequels to the rings
i am already anticipating these films highly, so at the mo bring hel More
Posted by dave_0989 at 12:21 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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Forums knackered for me too.
Great news about this casting though. More
Posted by shool at 12:20 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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Forums still knackered for me too!...I More
Posted by lukeyboy at 12:19 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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Forums still knackered for me too!...I More
Posted by lukeyboy at 12:18 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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| Great News but the Forum still dead |
I'm having similar issues. i.e. I can't get to the forum. Please help. will donate 50p if necessary More
Posted by livewire at 12:17 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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the forum's still dead!!
t shouldn't be. We put a load of 50p pieces in the meter and it's working fine here. There are new posts in there today, so I'm not sure why it's not working for you. More
Posted by Olly Richards at 12:00 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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An animatronic Smaug won't work! That's the whole point of CGI, realism! That's why 10-20 years ago LOTR wasn't possible to make as SFX realism wasn't up to the job. Ref: Animatronic Yoda to CGI Yoda. More
Posted by steveg66 at 11:58 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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the forum's still dead!! More
Posted by shawshank prisoner at 11:48 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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| Hmmm |
So this 2nd Hobbit film is not based on any of JRR Tolkiens work then? Hmmmm . The books worked fine without a 2nd Hobbit book, so all this looks like to me is the movie studios trying to cash in. Either that or trying to dumb the series down so certain audiences can make the link between The Hobbit & LOTR. (in the same way that Schindlers Ark became Schindlers List in case certain audiences thought it had something to do with Indy and Raiders....) More
Posted by Karl Crutchley at 11:40 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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I didn't doubt McKellen and Serkis would return, the latter person is already staying in New Zealand to shoot Jackson and Spielberg's Tintin, so he'll be staying on Kiwi mo-cap stages for a while. More
Posted by doctorolorinbats1975 at 11:39 on 28 April 2008 | Report This Post |
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el gordo will deliver. no doubts about it. More
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