| RE: New Hobbit Trailer Online |
Just seen your post mate, I'll try to reply properly sometime tomorrow as it's late and I've had long day. More
Posted by My name is Legion at 00:43 on 22 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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| RE: New Hobbit Trailer Online |
Detail another couple of examples of what you thought Jackson got wrong. I recall some major issues, but i haven't seen those film for so long i can't remember anymore. More
Posted by burtbondy at 22:04 on 21 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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| RE: New Hobbit Trailer Online |
Appreciate the civil tone, but I'm sorry I really do have to make a point. No offence.
I've heard the book to film translation argument countless times, and it just does not apply in this case.
Now I have back up that statement. I'll be as succinct as possible.
Before and after I became a "film buff" I was a voracious reader (not so much these days). Seriously, I used to go through at least three novels a week. The thing is, I read many books which have been adapted to film t More
Posted by My name is Legion at 20:29 on 21 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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| Book Adaptation |
I understand all the arguments about the film being faithful to the book but you have to consider if a direct translation would work as well as a film, a completely different medium.
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Posted by adzman at 17:24 on 21 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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| Book Adaptation |
I understand all the arguments about the film being faithful to the book but you have to consider if a direct translation would work as well as a film, a completely different medium.
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Posted by adzman at 15:56 on 21 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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| RE: New Hobbit Trailer Online |
L: Neilloc
'My name is Legion', I can't argue with you on the Mouth of Sauron scene, think PJ dropped the ball there. In fact, I could name at least a half dozen other major departures from the book, mainly in ROTK, that pissed me off too (Pippin having to trick Treebeard into realising what Saruman was up to, the dead coming to Minas Tirith, Frodo sending Sam home at Cirith Ungol etc etc).
However, I do feel that 95% of the decisions they made were great, and I think you have to More
Posted by burtbondy at 10:09 on 21 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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| I'll Rent It |
The Hobbits were everything that was shit about LOTR. So we will have 3 long movie's made up of all the worsts parts of LOTR. More
Posted by burtbondy at 09:58 on 21 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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| RE: New Hobbit Trailer Online |
'My name is Legion', I can't argue with you on the Mouth of Sauron scene, think PJ dropped the ball there. In fact, I could name at least a half dozen other major departures from the book, mainly in ROTK, that pissed me off too (Pippin having to trick Treebeard into realising what Saruman was up to, the dead coming to Minas Tirith, Frodo sending Sam home at Cirith Ungol etc etc).
However, I do feel that 95% of the decisions they made were great, and I think you have to appreciate certain More
Posted by Neilloc at 17:10 on 20 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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| RE: New Hobbit Trailer Online |
I can't be bothered with petty arguments, I've already said that Jackson did his best, it's just simply a fact that he does not understand Tolkien.
Want me to prove it?
OK, I only need one example,
The Mouth of Sauron, at no point in the book is he described as a monster with a big, disgusting mouth. Jackson took it literally, and thought it would be "cool" to do this: www.youtube.com/watch?v=JK8KjVbHO9cuch more importantly, he had Aragorn lop his head off. This is the extent More
Posted by My name is Legion at 14:58 on 20 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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| RE: Gollum FTW! |
Looks amazing! Can't wait.
I am however firmly in the cynical circle when it comes to the decision to split it into three films instead of two. A money making ploy and nowt else! More
Posted by Bad Ash at 14:57 on 20 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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| Gollum FTW! |
Best one, hands-down: Gollum's "Shut up!" scene. Though I'll have to stop watching trailers now... too many good scenes/jokes being spoiled.
Only two months and way too many days left to go, people! Huzzah indeed. More
Posted by HighwayJoe at 14:18 on 20 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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| RE: Looks brilliant! |
I'm really getting annoyed at this stage with all the people who seem to have made their mind up that because they've gone for 3 movies, it's automatically a cynical exercise and therefore the movies will be rubbish. Why not wait to see the movies before deciding if it was a good decision??
Even if people don't think they should have to wait, there's a number of reasons why the argument doesn't hold up.
Firstly, even if it was a studio decision, motivated by money, it doesn't mean th More
Posted by Neilloc at 13:42 on 20 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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| RE: Looks brilliant! |
I agree that it looks good and that the Hobbit as a book is short however having read the books and the appendices and the encyclopedias I think that there is more than enough material to do 3 films, and to the posts that say that we are not getting Tolkiens vision of the story well we arent,Tolien himself said to make the books as they are into a film was impossible so do the biographers.Most of the filling in these films will come from the appendices.I for one am looking forward to the films. More
Posted by Imrahill at 13:13 on 20 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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| RE: RE: Looks brilliant! |
Haters gonna hate.
The Appendices are a laborious read, but have plenty of material that could be awesome if interwoven with the narrative, rather than recounted after the fact. More
Posted by croninja at 13:08 on 20 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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| RE: Looks brilliant! |
L: croninja
Yes, the book is incredibly short but he's included a huge amount of extra material from the Appendices and a whole new storyline about the Necromancer
ou've never read the Appendices, have you?
No need to answer, it's a rhetorical question as I can tell that you haven't. More
Posted by My name is Legion at 11:59 on 20 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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| Looks brilliant! |
This trailer is a dramatic improvement over the last one, with plenty of action and a lot more humour than Lord of the Rings! Epic, majestic and stirring stuff!
Honestly, I can't understand all the negativity. If Jackson genuinely has enough good material to fill three movies, then why not? Yes, the book is incredibly short but he's included a huge amount of extra material from the Appendices and a whole new storyline about the Necromancer. I don't feel "ripped off" by having to pay f More
Posted by croninja at 11:46 on 20 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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| Peter Jackson can fuck off |
Goodwill vanished after the last 30 minutes of ROTK, and 10,427 minutes of King Kong. More
Posted by BatSpider at 10:23 on 20 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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| Is it just me |
Or do those prosthetics (mostly on the dwarves) look a bit.... welll... they look crap don't they? like REALLY crap.
Don't get me wrong, I want this to be great, but that trailer leaves me pretty cold and the 3 films thing seems to be milking it for all its worth.
Goodwill diminishing....... More
Posted by Mc Bovril at 09:59 on 20 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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| it's a fucking rip-off |
it is a rip off, a huge book like LOTR had a trilogy assigned to it.. and a little book like the hobbit ALSO has a trilogy to it.. it sucks. It does not need 3 films to do it justice as apart from being a smaller book it is also a very light read when compared to the LOTR books.
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Posted by scrotal at 09:14 on 20 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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Since when do trailers have alternate endings? More
Posted by Whistler at 08:45 on 20 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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| RE: New Hobbit Trailer Online |
I've no doubt that Jackson will once again entertain the masses. Fair play to him.
However he is not truly translating Tolkien's work. Anyone who has studied and genuinely understands Tolkien's world already knows this.
I do not hold it against him, he's worked hard and done his best. Can't ask for more than that, even if he has come up short.
My only problem with the success of his previous adaption, and his obvious forthcoming success is that I will never see Tolkien's visio More
Posted by My name is Legion at 02:46 on 20 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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| Can't go wrong! |
With Jackson at the helm, the excellent Martin Freeman onboard and all of the ingredients from the Rings trilogy there is no doubt this is gonna rock! More
Posted by dannyfletch at 00:05 on 20 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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| Alternate Endings |
http://www.thehobbit.com/index.html#content=choose-your -moment
You can use this to have 5 different endings to the new trailer.
I like it, but where did the music from the previous trailer go? More
Posted by witters at 23:00 on 19 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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| Hmmm |
This trailer makes it all look a bit to clean and shiney compared to lotr trilogy, defo a whiff of harry potter cgi. More
Posted by 7eke at 22:00 on 19 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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Looks pretty nice. Still wish it was Tom Hollander instead of Martin Freeman though. More
Posted by Jayseph at 20:26 on 19 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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| Watched it again... |
Beginning to get in the spirit of things. Did find it amusing, at least. More
Posted by Porter at 19:07 on 19 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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| Funny |
I like the fact it's obviously has some humour. Something I always felt missing from LOTR More
Posted by adzman at 18:09 on 19 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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| Sold indeed! |
This is going to live up to the LOTR trilogy! More
Posted by olirog at 18:00 on 19 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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| Erm... |
Is it blasphemous to admit that, despite being a huge LOTR fan and general Tolkien enthusiast, this trailer left me cold. I remember when I saw FOTR trailer for the 1st time. Gave me tingles! This...didn't. Hope the film's better. More
Posted by Porter at 17:56 on 19 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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| Sold |
Looks brilliant. My cynicism is slowly being swept away. Can't wait. More
Posted by ChesterCopperpot at 15:41 on 19 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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This looks amazing! More
Posted by Sargan at 15:22 on 19 September 2012 | Report This Post |
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