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Hobbit Trilogy Talk Intensifies
Peter Jackson wants to make it work

25 July 2012  |  Written by James White  |  Source: LA Times

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Hobbit Trilogy Talk Intensifies

While there has been intermittent chatter about a possible trilogy during most of the time that Peter Jackson has been shooting the Hobbit films, things began to really heat up during thanks to the director's comments at Comic-Con this year. Now it appears that plans are moving even closer to reality.

"That's a discussion we're having, yeah," Jackson told Hitfix in San Diego a couple of weeks ago. "We have certainly been talking to the studio about some of the material we can't film, and we've been asking them so we can do a bit more filming next year. Which, I don't know what would come of that, whether it'd be extended editions or whatnot. But those discussions are ongoing."

From the sounds of a report in the LA Times, those discussions are close to reaching an agreement. While the story is full of the usual “people familiar with the situation” stuff, Jackson seems to be close to figuring out what can be done to extend the story into three instalments, beyond the current two films – An Unexpected Journey and There And Back Again.

That would likely include deciding whether to schedule time to shoot more footage or reconfiguring what he has already. There is at least a rich vein of source material... “I'd like to shoot a bunch more material that we couldn't shoot,” he told Hitfix. “There's so much good stuff in the appendices that we haven't been able to squeeze into these movies.”

But it’s not quite as simple as all that, as new deals would have to be negotiated with the cast and the rights holders for the material. Those discussions have apparently already started.

So while nothing is locked down just yet, we figure there could be an announcement soon enough - and any way you look at it, the mere fact that there is a discussion suggests a hearty confidence in the quality of what they have so far. Anyone want to start guessing at titles for a third Hobbit film? Even if it is only wish-fulfilment?

The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey will arrive in cinemas on December 14. The Hobbit: There And Back Again will follow on December 13, 2013.

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RE: Hobbit Fillers for 3 movies?
This was just confirmed by Peter Jackson himself. The Hobbit is now a trilogy: cially-announced More

Posted by jmebaby25 at 16:54 on 30 July 2012 | Report This Post

Hobbit Fillers for 3 movies?
Well - we had three fairly lengthy movies from LoTR - and that was without the scouring of the Shire (the greatest pity, really). On its own - as written - 1 movie would have done. I understand that we get to see the seige of Dol Guldur as well - alluded to in the Hobbit, but would be a fair chunk of a movie (be sad if two big battles both occurred in Movie #2 though wouldn't it?). probably enough material to eke it out to three - wouldn't complain. More

Posted by PloppyTheJailer at 03:48 on 30 July 2012 | Report This Post

As awesome as this would be, I don't want them to make it just for the sake of stretching it out and making up a load of material that just drags on and therefore ruins the whole experience. But I'd still have to see it of course... More

Posted by abcdemma at 19:16 on 28 July 2012 | Report This Post

Hobbit 3: Milady's Revenge
Is this one of those films they made on the sly while filming the others?... like The four Musketeers, Superman 2 or The Godfather pt 3? The idea of filming a few extra bits and banging out a third film does not bode well. More

Posted by haranjen at 21:53 on 26 July 2012 | Report This Post

Please, God, Please Tell Me It's Going to Be A Trilogy!
Just make the trilogy,warner bros. You'll make me and a lot of other fans very happy. Believe me, we'll all pay to see them. More

Posted by Jack The Green at 15:19 on 26 July 2012 | Report This Post

3rd film concept?
what seems plausable to me is the bridge film we've heard rumors of and it should center around Aragorn. Will he be seen as a 10 year old in Rivendale in film 1 or 2??? From there you use the LOTR appendices to script out the 'growing up' of Aragorn. More

Posted by PJFan at 22:23 on 25 July 2012 | Report This Post

Sore Nips
Just like when they split the last Potter into two I had some strange twinges in the nipple area and again now. Yes, being bloody milked again by the studios....................... More

Posted by andrewgc at 21:28 on 25 July 2012 | Report This Post

Just make a film of The Silimarilian next (is that how you spell it?- Lucky guess?). I LOVE the fact they've finally made The Hobbit and am sure it will be one. Of.The. Greatest. Films. Ever. Yet, once you start 'inventing' too much of your own material only 'loosely' based on genuine Tolkien...Well, I do trust Peter Jackson...but it would be sad to leave Middle Earth with amde up filers and plot threads instead of genuine Tolkien ideas. My opinion. Still, I'm sure I'll be happy with whatever th More

Posted by Cyberleader at 19:33 on 25 July 2012 | Report This Post

I don't think this is a good idea
Look, THE LORD OF THE RINGS is one of the greatest film trilogies of all time and I'm glad that filming on THE HOBBIT had gone well. But if they turn that into a trilogy, then it's going to stretch the story even further. THE HOBBIT is best off as a two-parter as intended. Also, what else is there in the 'Appendices' now they have been adapting some of that stuff in both RINGS and HOBBIT. Despite that, I'm still really looking forward to THE HOBBIT and I hope Peter Jackson will regain his foo More

Posted by bb at 18:53 on 25 July 2012 | Report This Post

RE: Hobbit Trilogy Talk Intensifies
There's a shit-ton of extra material in the appendices and in Unfinished Tales etc so it wouldn't be too hard to stretch this out to three films. The question is, should they? More

Posted by Spaldron at 16:58 on 25 July 2012 | Report This Post

Hmmmmmmm, i was all for the two parting of The Hobbit (really hoping we see more of The Battle of the Five Armies than Bilbo did) but a third flick? Even if it acts as a bridge between the two stories, it still seems like it would be mostly a greatest hits package. More

Posted by clarkkent at 15:52 on 25 July 2012 | Report This Post

Typical Hollywood....they can't seem to come up with any new ideas at the moment. If its not a sequel, its a prequel, and if its not a prequel its a re-boot of a film that was successful enough not to need a reboot. Fair enough re-boot films like spiderman and Fantastic Four as they were rubbish, but films like Total Recall, Fright Night and even Footloose just didn't need to happen. Hollywood need to hire some new writers to come up with some new ideas. Rant over. More

Posted by dougwatsonuk at 14:00 on 25 July 2012 | Report This Post

The Hobbit: ??????
The Hobbit: Return of the Dúnedain The Hobbit: The Misty Mountain Heist The Hobbit: Bilbo's 13 The Hobbit: Revenge of the Necromancer The Hobbit: Attack of the Orcs/Trolls/Goblins/Uriki I trust in PJ to do the best thing, if he feels confident in giving us 3 movies without it being made to feel watered down and stretched in a silly way then I don't have a problem. If not I'll be perfectly happy with a Extended Edition that will add another 30/40+ mins to both More

Posted by DeadCell79 at 13:57 on 25 July 2012 | Report This Post

RE: Hobbit Trilogy Talk Intensifies
Now I'm a massive Lord Of The Rings fan & The Hobbit is my favorite book of all time. BUT! even I think they're taking the piss with this! More

Posted by Wild about Wilder at 13:21 on 25 July 2012 | Report This Post

RE: Hobbit Trilogy Talk Intensifies
Fuck's Sake, Jackson! The Hobbit is not Lord of the Rings! Why couldn't you just bang out a 90Minute Swash-Buckling family Adventure in the first place?!  I had kind of made peace with 2 films, but 3?! Bad. More

Posted by Invader_Ace at 11:57 on 25 July 2012 | Report This Post

...please don't. Then we'd have to wait until 2014 just to see the ending. Waiting for part 1 in December is already torture. More

Posted by ZachBobBob at 11:37 on 25 July 2012 | Report This Post

Hobbit 3?
Third movie should be called Hobbit: Still milking it! More

Posted by Dex381 at 11:00 on 25 July 2012 | Report This Post

RE: Too much filler
Two films of under 2 hours for The Hobbit is probably OK, and even with this original scheme it's pretty clear that there's going to be lots of stuff not directly referenced in the book, but elsewhere in Tolkien's writings (Gandalf in Dol Guldur, Necromancer, White Council etc). However, we also know we're getting an invented female Elf character, who may be OK but I'm yet to be convinced. Yes, Tolkien wrote an entire story with basically all-male characters, but that's what he chose to do. In More

Posted by BelfastBoy at 10:39 on 25 July 2012 | Report This Post

Too much filler
The Hobbit book is less than half the length of the Lord of the Rings trilogy. 2 films is just about do-able, but 3 is a real push and there will be ALOT of filler in them. Filler - fail. Play it safe - stick to the plan! More

Posted by eddybaby83 at 10:07 on 25 July 2012 | Report This Post

Peter Jackson - Lust for Oscar II and box office
Thought they might get away with two LOTR length movies not three, unless they are going for 2hr approach. Guess they know what they are doing.. More

Posted by Nickwantstowork at 09:56 on 25 July 2012 | Report This Post

Trust in your Editor Peter
When you watch the extras, Jackson talks about having a different editor for each film and trusting their judgement when he disagreed with them (even though the eventual Extended Editions were superior). Sounds like he maybe hasn't got a strong editor on the case with The Hobbit. I'd rather see one long 3 hour film to supplement the original sublime trilogy, rather then have 3 new drawn out films that tarnish the originals brilliance. But then who are we to question the genius of PJ??? More

Posted by Blyman at 09:48 on 25 July 2012 | Report This Post

Warner's going to lose big on Gangster Squad so they need the extra income that a Hobbit 3 will give them... More

Posted by paulferrer at 09:47 on 25 July 2012 | Report This Post

RE: Hobbit Trilogy Talk Intensifies
Yeah, I've gotten my head around two movies. Of course it's still a cash in, but I'm ok, and in fact happy with that now. Three movies is just too far for such a short book. You can talk about adding in as much stuff from the appendices as you like, but the more you do that, the less correct it is to call these films 'The Hobbit'. More

Posted by crazymoviesdude at 08:55 on 25 July 2012 | Report This Post

The Hobbit: Assignment Miami Beach More

Posted by Deacon Frost at 08:35 on 25 July 2012 | Report This Post

I'm not sure I can put up with Martin Freeman for that long. More

Posted by UTB at 08:04 on 25 July 2012 | Report This Post

They must be adding a LOT of material to stretch The Hobbit to two films, let alone three. I loved the three LOTR films, but I do worry at the thought of Jackson adding some of his own material every since I found out about his (scrapped) plans to have Aragorn and Sauron engage in fisticuffs at the end of The Return of The King. More

Posted by jmebaby25 at 07:59 on 25 July 2012 | Report This Post

RE: Hobbit Trilogy Talk Intensifies
The Hobbit: Bilbo Saves Christmas The Hobbit: Cash Grab The Hobbit: Pound Stretcher The Hobbit: Lets Make It up as we go The Hobbit: Frodo Rises The Hobbit: Rise of the Lord of the Rings The Hobbit: Back in the Habit. More

Posted by danielcharlwood at 07:59 on 25 July 2012 | Report This Post

RE: Hobbit Trilogy Talk Intensifies
This isn't such a great idea. Save the appendices for the 10-part Silmarillion! More

Posted by NeoBrowser at 04:12 on 25 July 2012 | Report This Post

2 Hobbit 2 Appendices Appendices with a Vengeance The Hobbit vs The Lord of the Rings: Requiem aaaand so on. More

Posted by badblokebob at 01:49 on 25 July 2012 | Report This Post

The Hobbit: Chillin' at the Lonely Mountain. I'd happily sit through as many Hobbit/LotR movies as Jackson can film, but if they do go as far as the barrels in the first Hobbit movie, I struggle to see how they'd fill 2 more with just the stuff at Rivertown and the mountain... More

Posted by danstokes at 01:47 on 25 July 2012 | Report This Post

The Hobbit: The King Under The Mountain?
To be honest, I wasn't even aware they were considering a trilogy. If they have enough footage to do it then awesome, but considering the entire LOTR trilogy was adapted from all three books, I struggle a little to see how they can spread The Hobbit, a much shorter book than any of the individual LOTR titles, into three films. But, as always, I have plenty of faith in PJ to do the right thing. More

Posted by Whistler at 01:44 on 25 July 2012 | Report This Post

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