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Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC
Update: Now with response from Tom Six

07 June 2011  |  Written by Helen O'Hara  |  Source: BBFC

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Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC

Last year's The Human Centipede was mad, bad and really quite grotesque. But this year's sequel, imaginatively called The Human Centipede II, has been rejected by the British Board of Film Classification on the basis that it is "sexually violent and potentially obscene". This means that the DVD cannot be legally supplied anywhere in the UK.

The original film was released, uncut, as an 18 last year. This one, however, apparently has "unacceptable material" throughout which cannot be remedied with cuts. The filmmakers have six weeks in which to appeal against the decision.

It's worth noting, before we get all up in arms, that this is a relatively rare decision for the BBFC, who outlined their reasons at some length and stressed that the full Board was in on this one. The full reasoning is below - but if you're of a sensitive disposition even this may be rather unpleasant.

"The first film dealt with a mad doctor who sews together three kidnapped people in order to produce the ‘human centipede’of the title. Although the concept of the film was undoubtedly tasteless and disgusting it was a relatively traditional and conventional horror film and the Board concluded that it was not in breach of our Guidelines at ‘18’. This new work, The Human Centipede II (Full Sequence), tells the story of a man who becomes sexually obsessed with a DVD recording of the first film and who imagines putting the ‘centipede’ idea into practice. Unlike the first film, the sequel presents graphic images of sexual violence, forced defecation, and mutilation, and the viewer is invited to witness events from the perspective of the protagonist. Whereas in the first film the ‘centipede’ idea is presented as a revolting medical experiment, with the focus on whether the victims will be able to escape, this sequel presents the ‘centipede’ idea as the object of the protagonist’s depraved sexual fantasy.

The principal focus of The Human Centipede II (Full Sequence) is the sexual arousal of the central character at both the idea and the spectacle of the total degradation, humiliation, mutilation, torture, and murder of his naked victims. Examples of this include a scene early in the film in which he masturbates whilst he watches a DVD of the original Human Centipede film, with sandpaper wrapped around his penis, and a sequence later in the film in which he becomes aroused at the sight of the members of the ‘centipede’ being forced to defecate into one another’s mouths, culminating in sight of the man wrapping barbed wire around his penis and raping the woman at the rear of the ‘centipede’. There is little attempt to portray any of the victims in the film as anything other than objects to be brutalised, degraded and mutilated for the amusement and arousal of the central character, as well as for the pleasure of the audience. There is a strong focus throughout on the link between sexual arousal and sexual violence and a clear association between pain, perversity and sexual pleasure. It is the Board’s conclusion that the explicit presentation of the central character’s obsessive sexually violent fantasies is in breach of its Classification Guidelines and poses a real, as opposed to a fanciful, risk that harm is likely to be caused to potential viewers.

David Cooke, Director of the BBFC said: “It is the Board's carefully considered view that to issue a certificate to this work, even if confined to adults, would be inconsistent with the Board's Guidelines, would risk potential harm within the terms of the VRA, and would be unacceptable to the public.

“The Board also seeks to avoid classifying material that may be in breach of the Obscene Publications Acts 1959 and 1964 (OPA) or any other relevant legislation. The OPA prohibits the publication of works that have a tendency to deprave or corrupt a significant proportion of those likely to see them. In order to avoid classifying potentially obscene material, the Board engages in regular discussions with the relevant enforcement agencies, including the CPS, the police, and the Ministry of Justice. It is the Board’s view that there is a genuine risk that this video work, The Human Centipede II (Full Sequence), may be considered obscene within the terms of the OPA, for the reasons given above."

Update:
We emailed Tom Six for a response to the BBFC's decision and received the following quote, which we present here in full. The censoring of the F-word, ironically, is Six's.

“Thank you BBFC for putting spoilers of my movie on your website and thank you for banning my film in this exceptional way. Apparently I made an horrific horror-film, but shouldn't a good horror film be horrific? My dear people it is a f****cking MOVIE. It is all fictional. Not real. It is all make-belief. It is art. Give people their own choice to watch it or not. If people can't handle or like my movies they just don't watch them. If people like my movies they have to be able to see it any time, anywhere also in the UK.”

So there you have it. What do you think: saving us all from ourselves or censorship gone too far? Or do you even care that we won't be able to see this particular opus? Speak your brains below...


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RE: Forced Defecation??
L: benskelly L: kenada_woo L: benskelly That's brand new right there. LOL. That's something they cut of "Singin' In The Rain".... But seriously, isn't it silly that such censorship exists in the UK in 2011? Don't rate it, don't put in any big theatre chains, but making it illegal to own?? Really?? I thought you guys were so liberal and enlightened and America was full of backwards religious freaks and puritans. And yet there hasn't been any such censorship More

Posted by kenada_woo at 22:57 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: superdan Is it actually illegal to own these films in the UK, or is it just illegal for them to be sold/distributed/broadcast? It seems a bit unlikely you'd get fined or go to jail for owning a piece of fiction. Also, lol at the notion of America being a paragon of liberalism. My mum was there a couple of weeks ago and it was illegal to buy a beer on a Sunday in the state she was in. I'll take fractionally stricter movie censorship over that shit any day /quote] Your Mo More

Posted by benskelly at 22:56 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: elab49 That's just semantics - call it what you will it comes down to whether or not you can pop to the local fleapit and see the film. When you can't it's because a bunch of secretive unaccountable 'experts' have passed a rating without being open about the decision or the process or a system that sees films 'not picking up distribution deals' or being cut upfront to get a rating. 's an open and accountable body who are completely transparent in the publication of their d More

Posted by benskelly at 22:52 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: Forced Defecation??
Is it actually illegal to own these films in the UK, or is it just illegal for them to be sold/distributed/broadcast? It seems a bit unlikely you'd get fined or go to jail for owning a piece of fiction. Also, lol at the notion of America being a paragon of liberalism. My mum was there a couple of weeks ago and it was illegal to buy a beer on a Sunday in the state she was in. I'll take fractionally stricter movie censorship over that shit any day More

Posted by superdan at 22:49 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: benskelly L: Notmyrealusername L: benskelly And yet there hasn't been any such censorship in the US in about 40 years. How does that work? aving seen "this film is not yet rated" ild rather keep the BBFC system if its all the same. nce again, moot point. Nothing here is ever BANNED. There's a difference between not getting an MPAA rating and being BANNED. Also, everything in that movie is no longer an issue because when Jack Valenti died a year More

Posted by kenada_woo at 22:49 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: Forced Defecation??
That's just semantics - call it what you will it comes down to whether or not you can pop to the local fleapit and see the film.   When you can't it's because a bunch of secretive unaccountable 'experts' have passed a rating without being open about the decision or the process or a system that sees films 'not picking up distribution deals' or being cut upfront to get a rating.   Here it's an open and accountable body who are completely transparent in the publication of their d More

Posted by elab49 at 22:47 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: Forced Defecation??
L: kenada_woo L: benskelly That's brand new right there. LOL. That's something they cut of "Singin' In The Rain".... But seriously, isn't it silly that such censorship exists in the UK in 2011? Don't rate it, don't put in any big theatre chains, but making it illegal to own?? Really?? I thought you guys were so liberal and enlightened and America was full of backwards religious freaks and puritans. And yet there hasn't been any such censorship in the US in about 40 More

Posted by benskelly at 22:43 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: Forced Defecation??
L: benskelly L: elab49 I thought the MPAA was completely non-transparent in its rulings/decision unlike the BBFC? And that films still get butchered to avoid the commercial death of a dodgy rating? there hasn't been any such censorship in the US in about 40 yearsne can only assume complete avoidance of all news media. The US fines networks and scares the hell out of broadcasters because Janet Jackson has a costume 'slip-up'. Very liberal The US seems to deal with things More

Posted by kenada_woo at 22:41 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_films#United_State sp; Not quite 40 years it seems. In part it seems primarily because of the local jurisidictions enacting their own rules. Technically local councils can refuse to allow films to be shown here as well I think, although historically this has also been used to show films otherwise censored by the BBFC.   It also ignores the pre-censorship of films to enable them to meet the secretive rules of MPAA guidelines for commercial purpo More

Posted by elab49 at 22:39 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: Notmyrealusername L: benskelly And yet there hasn't been any such censorship in the US in about 40 years. How does that work? aving seen "this film is not yet rated" ild rather keep the BBFC system if its all the same. nce again, moot point. Nothing here is ever BANNED. There's a difference between not getting an MPAA rating and being BANNED. Also, everything in that movie is no longer an issue because when Jack Valenti died a year later the MPAA was com More

Posted by benskelly at 22:35 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: Forced Defecation??
L: elab49 I thought the MPAA was completely non-transparent in its rulings/decision unlike the BBFC? And that films still get butchered to avoid the commercial death of a dodgy rating? there hasn't been any such censorship in the US in about 40 yearsne can only assume complete avoidance of all news media. The US fines networks and scares the hell out of broadcasters because Janet Jackson has a costume 'slip-up'. Very liberal The US seems to deal with things in a far more underha More

Posted by benskelly at 22:32 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: Forced Defecation??
L: benskelly And yet there hasn't been any such censorship in the US in about 40 years. How does that work? aving seen "this film is not yet rated" ild rather keep the BBFC system if its all the same. More

Posted by Notmyrealusername at 22:28 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: Forced Defecation??
L: benskelly That's brand new right there. LOL. That's something they cut of "Singin' In The Rain".... But seriously, isn't it silly that such censorship exists in the UK in 2011? Don't rate it, don't put in any big theatre chains, but making it illegal to own?? Really?? I thought you guys were so liberal and enlightened and America was full of backwards religious freaks and puritans. And yet there hasn't been any such censorship in the US in about 40 years. How does More

Posted by kenada_woo at 22:23 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

RE: Forced Defecation??
I thought the MPAA was completely non-transparent in its rulings/decision unlike the BBFC? And that films still get butchered to avoid the commercial death of a dodgy rating? there hasn't been any such censorship in the US in about 40 yearsne can only assume complete avoidance of all news media. The US fines networks and scares the hell out of broadcasters because Janet Jackson has a costume 'slip-up'. Very liberal sp; The US seems to deal with things in a far more underhand manne More

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L: elab49 Perhaps it's something specific in the content? Particularly as children are the go-to villain for half the horrors these days. rue. People are banging on about A Serbian Film. While it is schlocky and sexually violent...the undertone and theme of that film is supposidly to represent the atrocities that happened in Serbia during the war. That angle is apparent and open in the film so while it had cuts and censored scenes, those cuts didnt take away from the core of its s More

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RE: The Human Centipede II Rejected By BBFC
L: Epiphany Demon L: kenada_woo L: Epiphany Demon don't get why it should be banned. If people wanna watch it, they should watch it. If they make a decision themselves that it's depraved, then they can watch something else. I'm all for free speech or whatever the equivalent is now. cough* import it *cough* don't want to watch it. I should just be given the choice to without having to resort to importing it. What's the point of putting restrictions on it if I can More

Posted by kenada_woo at 22:11 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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Saying that I believe in free will and stuff, what's this programme on telly when they get their cocks out live on telly? They should ban that. I was eating a tomato the other day and flicking through the channels when I saw some god-awful penis that had what looked like Dev's tongue on the side of it. It was almost enough to stop me masturbating. More

Posted by Epiphany Demon at 22:05 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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It's hard to believe that Texas Chainsaw was ever banned. It's one of the least violent slasher/horror movies you will ever see. More

Posted by MonsterCat at 22:02 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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Perhaps it's something specific in the content? Particularly as children are the go-to villain for half the horrors these days. More

Posted by elab49 at 22:02 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: elab49 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_films#United_Kingd omt looks pretty rare, Epiphany Demon. There will be a heck of a lot more with cuts (and some without because the makers send a precut submission for certification). air enough on why it banned Mikey, but keeping is banned it really quite odd. More

Posted by Deviation at 21:55 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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I think the BBFC have a responsibility not to allow the widespread release of a movie where sexual violence is so thoroughly integral to the plot that even editing cant make it acceptable. I also dont think that watching the movie will make anyone go out and immediately repeat such acts. However I think the film would contribute to a slow dripping effect. Whereby movies that depict graphic and sustained sexual violence causes a desensitization to such acts. And after a few years o More

Posted by Notmyrealusername at 21:51 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: superdan L: Epiphany Demon Tenuously keeping this on topic, what else has been banned in this country recently? I just think its mad in this day and age they even bother. said something similar upthread (when it was still relatively sane). I just can't see, given how easy it is to get hold of 'banned' films, why they would refuse to certificate something that wasn't flat-out illegal. kinda agree with this. Just one search in certain sites and I've already found various copi More

Posted by Deviation at 21:50 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_banned_films#United_Kingd omp; It looks pretty rare, Epiphany Demon. There will be a heck of a lot more with cuts (and some without because the makers send a precut submission for certification). More

Posted by elab49 at 21:49 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: Rgirvan44 I believe that this thread contains the answer to the question of what sort of people would watch this film.  don't think I could watch Human Centipede 2. I've seen some fairly messed up films in my life but sexual violence really bothers me. I don't want to judge the film without having seen it, but if the BBFC saw fit not to give it a certificate, then it must be pretty explicit More

Posted by MonsterCat at 21:49 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: UnderTheLights Aaaaaand the BBFC are playing right into the hands of this films moronic director. This is exactly what he wants people. Like all children, the best way to deal with him is to just ignore him until be gets bored and omewhere else.ote] You say that, but what if the somewhere else is another person's rectum? How do you justify that? More

Posted by Epiphany Demon at 21:47 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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Keep this thread on topic.  More

Posted by Deviation at 21:45 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: Epiphany Demon Tenuously keeping this on topic, what else has been banned in this country recently? I just think its mad in this day and age they even bother. said something similar upthread (when it was still relatively sane). I just can't see, given how easy it is to get hold of 'banned' films, why they would refuse to certificate something that wasn't flat-out illegal. More

Posted by superdan at 21:44 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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Japan eh? Almost as bad as Canada. More

Posted by Epiphany Demon at 21:43 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: elab49 Oddly, not that amusing Dev. And this is a Movie News discussion thread - Off Topic. Tbh, his comment wasn't truly amusing either and this thread derailed itself a long time ago. Don't worry though, I get the hint. much as the guy in A Serbian Film who got his head raped. :D] sly keeping this on topic, what else has been banned in this country recently? I just think its mad in this day and age they even bother. f I remember well there was a Ja More

Posted by Deviation at 21:41 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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You're on fire superdan, you're on fire. Tenuously keeping this on topic, what else has been banned in this country recently? I just think its mad in this day and age they even bother. More

Posted by Epiphany Demon at 21:40 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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I believe that this thread contains the answer to the question of what sort of people would watch this film.  More

Posted by Rgirvan44 at 21:40 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: vinchenzo19 Some people on here are joking about rape etc need their heads checking. ot as much as the guy in A Serbian Film who got his head raped. More

Posted by superdan at 21:37 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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Oddly, not that amusing Dev. And this is a Movie News discussion thread - Off Topic. More

Posted by elab49 at 21:36 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: vinchenzo19 Some people on here are joking about rape etc need their heads checking. t's not rape if they don't exist. More

Posted by Epiphany Demon at 21:35 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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ome people on here are joking about rape etc need their heads checking. did. They said I was not capable of raping someone which left me rather disillusioned. More

Posted by Deviation at 21:34 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: kenada_woo L: Epiphany Demon don't get why it should be banned. If people wanna watch it, they should watch it. If they make a decision themselves that it's depraved, then they can watch something else. I'm all for free speech or whatever the equivalent is now. cough* import it *cough* don't want to watch it. I should just be given the choice to without having to resort to importing it. What's the point of putting restrictions on it if I can get hold of it somehow? More

Posted by Epiphany Demon at 21:34 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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I saw the first one a while ago on UK tv and it obviously was a nasty film but the acting was FAR worse! This Director is just looking for a reaction. There really is no place in film for this kind of rubbish. Some people on here are joking about rape etc need their heads checking. More

Posted by vinchenzo19 at 21:33 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: Notmyrealusername L: sidecarsally Does everyone in the UK suck? f your point was that people in countries with little censorship turn out to be jerks, then youve proved it well. Maybe if your country also censored sustained sexual violence you may have turned out to be a more decent human being est. Comeback. Ever. More

Posted by Ulmaceae at 21:32 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: Epiphany Demon don't get why it should be banned. If people wanna watch it, they should watch it. If they make a decision themselves that it's depraved, then they can watch something else. I'm all for free speech or whatever the equivalent is now. cough* import it *cough* More

Posted by kenada_woo at 21:27 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: Epiphany Demon don't get why it should be banned. If people wanna watch it, they should watch it. If they make a decision themselves that it's depraved, then they can watch something else. I'm all for free speech or whatever the equivalent is now. men brotha! We gotta protect people but I think ACTUAL CRIMINALS are far more dangerous than this movie. Edit - please don't advertise personal blogs/websites in posts. More

Posted by sidecarsally at 21:27 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: Rgirvan44 As for the rejection - I wonder if there are any cuts to be made, or is the whole piece simply not passable? o, there's no cuts because its the core story. Unable to find trims or cuts for them to go back and tone it down. More

Posted by kenada_woo at 21:26 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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don't get why it should be banned. If people wanna watch it, they should watch it. If they make a decision themselves that it's depraved, then they can watch something else. I'm all for free speech or whatever the equivalent is now. More

Posted by Epiphany Demon at 21:25 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: superdan L: Rgirvan44 As for the rejection - I wonder if there are any cuts to be made, he whole piece simply not passable?ote] That's what the girl third in the centipede line said. Well, mumbled. ADUMP BUMP! Got a laugh outta me! More

Posted by sidecarsally at 21:24 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: Rgirvan44 As for the rejection - I wonder if there are any cuts to be made, he whole piece simply not passable?ote] That's what the girl third in the centipede line said. Well, mumbled. More

Posted by superdan at 21:23 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: sidecarsally L: Deviation L: sidecarsally A Serbian Film showed a woman get her head chopped off with a machete with a dude raped her from behind. Then a little boy gets raped in the butt by his dad until s squirting out of his ass the same guy stabbed his dick into another guys brain, killing him. Was the UK allowed to watch that? When did this happen? I saw the Uncut version and I don't remember this. You also left out the sexiest bit (sexy for EpiD). More

Posted by Deviation at 21:22 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: sidecarsally L: Deviation L: sidecarsally A Serbian Film showed a woman get her head chopped off with a machete with a dude raped her from behind. Then a little boy gets raped in the butt by his dad until s squirting out of his ass the same guy stabbed his dick into another guys brain, killing him. Was the UK allowed to watch that? When did this happen? I saw the Uncut version and I don't remember this. You also left out the sexiest bit (sexy for EpiD). More

Posted by kenada_woo at 21:21 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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As for the rejection - I wonder if there are any cuts to be made, or is the whole piece simply not passable? More

Posted by Rgirvan44 at 21:21 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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This thread has been rated for 18 for graphic descriptions of Epi's home life. More

Posted by MonsterCat at 21:20 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: kenada_woo L: Epiphany Demon I liked the bit where blood squirted out of his ass, because it reminded me of my Nan's 70th. didnt get the invite to that mate.....ote] Family and sadists only, I'm afraid. More

Posted by Epiphany Demon at 21:18 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: Deviation L: sidecarsally A Serbian Film showed a woman get her head chopped off with a machete with a dude raped her from behind. Then a little boy gets raped in the butt by his dad until s squirting out of his ass the same guy stabbed his dick into another guys brain, killing him. Was the UK allowed to watch that? When did this happen? I saw the Uncut version and I don't remember this. You also left out the sexiest bit (sexy for EpiD). ou must not have s More

Posted by sidecarsally at 21:18 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: Epiphany Demon I liked the bit where blood squirted out of his ass, because it reminded me of my Nan's 70th. didnt get the invite to that mate..... More

Posted by kenada_woo at 21:17 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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Close thread.  More

Posted by Rgirvan44 at 21:17 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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I liked the bit where blood squirted out of his ass, because it reminded me of my Nan's 70th. More

Posted by Epiphany Demon at 21:16 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: sidecarsally A Serbian Film showed a woman get her head chopped off with a machete with a dude raped her from behind. Then a little boy gets raped in the butt by his dad until s squirting out of his ass the same guy stabbed his dick into another guys brain, killing him. Was the UK allowed to watch that? When did this happen? I saw the Uncut version and I don't remember this. You also left out the sexiest bit (sexy for EpiD). More

Posted by Deviation at 21:15 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: elab49 Did you read the decision? The problem is that it's too central to the film to be cut - unlike other films where it just needs trimming of scenes, etc. And it is all down to context etc, but as noted upthread - there is a certain type of strain of sexual violence - one seen solely to titilate - that the guidelines are there to prevent. huuuuush......Dont talk common sense on this thread More

Posted by kenada_woo at 21:13 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: sidecarsally A Serbian Film showed a woman get her head chopped off with a machete with a dude raped her from behind. Then a little boy gets raped in the butt by his dad until blood is squirting out of his ass. THEN, the same guy stabbed his dick into another guys brain, killing him. Was the UK allowed to watch that? HIT YEAH! More

Posted by kenada_woo at 21:12 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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Did you read the decision? The problem is that it's too central to the film to be cut - unlike other films where it just needs trimming of scenes, etc. And it is all down to context etc, but as noted upthread - there is a certain type of strain of sexual violence - one seen solely to titilate - that the guidelines are there to prevent. More

Posted by elab49 at 21:11 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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yes it was, I live in the UK and my friend rented that film from our local blockbuster, I've had the misfortune of seeing ti More

Posted by bethanrhian at 21:10 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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A Serbian Film showed a woman get her head chopped off with a machete with a dude raped her from behind. Then a little boy gets raped in the butt by his dad until blood is squirting out of his ass. THEN, the same guy stabbed his dick into another guys brain, killing him. Was the UK allowed to watch that? More

Posted by sidecarsally at 21:09 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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LOL you are so sad right now, it's hilarious hahahhaha!!!! More

Posted by sidecarsally at 21:06 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: MonsterCat L: kenada_woo L: MonsterCat I use sandpaper and barb-wire. Deviation is a coward. hrow the cat in there and you have yourself a winner. ow that's gross, Ken. Freak. ascist! More

Posted by kenada_woo at 21:06 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: Notmyrealusername i mean talking about films on an internet forum is really pathetic. HEY We also talk about Faustino Asprilla. More

Posted by Epiphany Demon at 21:04 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: Epiphany Demon All I know is that if this isn't being shown, where does that leave my sophomore effort "How To Destroy A Tyrannosaur's Vagina In Five Easy Steps"? don't know, but I think it explains why I've had trouble getting a distributor for "The Baby Who Ate His Way Out" More

Posted by superdan at 21:04 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: sidecarsally I love how you can tell which people that got trolled are butthurt now though. ou think pretending to be a dick is a good way of spending your time? i mean talking about films on an internet forum is really pathetic. But trolling those film fans on the internet goes so far beyond pathetic it actually makes me pity you. At least the film fans post here because it stems from a passion for film and art. Youre just a jerk with nothing better to do in More

Posted by Notmyrealusername at 21:02 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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Cheer up chappy-o! That's a saying there, right? If not, then "lighten up guv'na" HAS to be. What's weird about the R rating? In the states, they have R and NC-17 (which some theaters won't play). I prefer "Unrated" myself because even NC-17 can be censored. But some movies like Anti-Christ I was surprised even got NC-17 (thought it should've been Unrated because it was so explicit). R is for movies with violence, swearing, sex, or all of the above. NC-17 is for excessive amounts of those, More

Posted by sidecarsally at 21:02 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: kenada_woo L: MonsterCat I use sandpaper and barb-wire. Deviation is a coward. hrow the cat in there and you have yourself a winner. ow that's gross, Ken. Freak. More

Posted by MonsterCat at 21:02 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: MonsterCat I use sandpaper and barb-wire. Deviation is a coward. hrow the cat in there and you have yourself a winner. More

Posted by kenada_woo at 21:00 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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I use sandpaper and barb-wire. Deviation is a coward. More

Posted by MonsterCat at 21:00 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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Tits Wrong thread.... More

Posted by kenada_woo at 20:59 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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All I know is that if this isn't being shown, where does that leave my sophomore effort "How To Destroy A Tyrannosaur's Vagina In Five Easy Steps"? More

Posted by Epiphany Demon at 20:59 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: Deviation ut youre canadian arent you? erm...what exactly has canada ever achieved? Im british. We happen to be good at winning world wars and ruling half the planet. What are canadians good for apart from f**king mooses? avid Cronenberg>>>>>>>>>>>& gt;>>>>>>>>>Britian. We all know that. rse people will still see it if they really want to and if you'd like to see a woman being raped by a barbed wir More

Posted by Super Hans at 20:58 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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'protect others from trash' ?!! What a load of sanctimonious, self-righteous cultural snobbery.  More

Posted by MrsLebowski at 20:57 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: sidecarsally I'm sure at and YES, I know you guys have had dental care for 9 years now. sp; Britain p; And if you do wish to continue a discussion then we'd prefer the rather unpleasant attitude you're aiming for is toned down.   Canada I could understand possibly criticising more restrictive censorship regimes - I understand they are, or were, quite liberal. Although I do think the BBFC have given a quite clear breakdown of their concerns here.   But Americ More

Posted by elab49 at 20:54 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: Deviation ut youre canadian arent you? erm...what exactly has canada ever achieved? Im british. We happen to be good at winning world wars and ruling half the planet. What are canadians good for apart from f**king mooses? avid Cronenberg>>>>>>>>>>>& gt;>>>>>>>>>Britian. We all know that. rse people will still see it if they really want to and if you'd like to see a woman being raped by a barbed More

Posted by sidecarsally at 20:54 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: Deviation David Cronenberg>>>>>>>>>>>& gt;>>>>>>>>>Britian. We all know that. hat's pretty much impossible to argue against actually. More

Posted by superdan at 20:53 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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o see someone stand up to protect others from trash and stand by there beliefs... eriously though, protect others from trash? All you have to do is....not watch it. More

Posted by Deviation at 20:52 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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ut youre canadian arent you? erm...what exactly has canada ever achieved? Im british. We happen to be good at winning world wars and ruling half the planet. What are canadians good for apart from f**king mooses? avid Cronenberg>>>>>>>>>>>& gt;>>>>>>>>>Britian. We all know that. rse people will still see it if they really want to and if you'd like to see a woman being raped by a barbed wire wrapped penis the More

Posted by Deviation at 20:50 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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Ohhhh, she's nkes sense now  More

Posted by superdan at 20:49 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: sidecarsally LOL thanks ;P I've totally been trolling you guys for a little bit now. The best explanation I can give for all this is that I'm a super bored American writer living in Canada. I'm sure England is great and YES, I know you guys have had dental care for 9 years now. No hard feelings :D Edit: I am gonna watch the fuck out of this movie though, and masturbate to it, and maybe even try to make my own human centipede. Well done. You just made you More

Posted by MonsterCat at 20:46 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: sidecarsally Does everyone in the UK suck? Isn't there anyone to stand up for creative expression and anti-censorship? Or are you all really just a bunch of overgrown children? Doesn't ANYONE have enough personal strength to say "Hey, I don't need you telling me what I should and shouldn't be watching"???? I'm sad for you guys. Not really though. I think it's pathetic. grateful that my ancestors moved out the of UK before it was the UKuote]   Aren't we all? More

Posted by Super Hans at 20:44 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: sidecarsally I'd rather be a jerk than a sheltered pussy with bad teeth. ut youre canadian arent you? erm...what exactly has canada ever achieved? Im british. We happen to be good at winning world wars and ruling half the planet. What are canadians good for apart from f**king mooses? More

Posted by Notmyrealusername at 20:44 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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If sidecar sally had bothered to do her research, she'll find that the BBFC are actually very relaxed when it comes to screen violence. These days you have to push really, really hard to get an uncut 18 rating. More

Posted by MonsterCat at 20:44 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: kenada_woo L: Deviation This thread..........oh lord.......... ts brilliant... Im surprised you're not all over it haha Serbian Film took away my will to argue. It didn't help that it just wasn't a good film (saw the Uncut version, see, banning it did nothing). On a separate note, LOL HE SAID THE R-WORD. More

Posted by Deviation at 20:43 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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Boy do I feel stupid now. Hope you are doing well! *waves hello!* More

Posted by Rgirvan44 at 20:43 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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LOL thanks ;P I've totally been trolling you guys for a little bit now. The best explanation I can give for all this is that I'm a super bored American writer living in Canada. I'm sure England is great and YES, I know you guys have had dental care for 9 years now. No hard feelings :D Edit: I am gonna watch the fuck out of this movie though, and masturbate to it, and maybe even try to make my own human centipede. More

Posted by sidecarsally at 20:42 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: sidecarsally you 12 or something? re you retarded or something? :P had any sense, that old "Hey, I don't need you telling me what I should and shouldn't be watching" is a very flat and basic argument. t's a very flat and basic argument to want the freedom to watch any movie?!!?!? That was the most libery-hating garbage I've ever read. I seriously can't even believe that humans like you exist in the modern world -- that is, people who hold such idiotic beliefs but still possess More

Posted by Rockin Ricky Rialto at 20:40 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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sidecarsally - you are at. More

Posted by Rgirvan44 at 20:39 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: sidecarsally you 12 or something? re you retarded or something? :P had any sense, that old "Hey, I don't need you telling me what I should and shouldn't be watching" is a very flat and basic argument. t's a very flat and basic argument to want the freedom to watch any movie?!!?!? That was the most libery-hating garbage I've ever read. I seriously can't even believe that humans like you exist in the modern world -- that is, people who hold such idiotic beliefs but still possess More

Posted by kenada_woo at 20:38 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: Notmyrealusername if your point was that people in countries with little censorship turn out to be jerks, then youve proved it well. Maybe if your country also censored sustained sexual violence you may have turned out to be a more decent human being 've never raped or abused a woman, but I agree with your first sentence -- HOWEVER.. I'd rather be a jerk than a sheltered pussy with bad teeth. More

Posted by sidecarsally at 20:38 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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You're from Canada, right? I thought Canadians were supposed to be super-polite and unassuming. More

Posted by MonsterCat at 20:38 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: Notmyrealusername the bbfc has always disliked sexual violence. t the film would have passed uncut had there not been a sexual element to the violent actsote] And thank god they took out the gang bang scene in Happy Feet ] More

Posted by Rockin Ricky Rialto at 20:37 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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Re-reading the press release I think the BBFC made this decision on the basis of what they felt would be (un)acceptable to the British public. And based on the responses on this forum, I think they might've got it right. More

Posted by MrsLebowski at 20:36 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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you 12 or something? re you ething? :P had any sense, that old "Hey, I don't need you telling me what I should and shouldn't be watching" is a very flat and basic argument. t's a very flat and basic argument to want the freedom to watch any movie?!!?!? That was the most libery-hating garbage I've ever read. I seriously can't even believe that humans like you exist in the modern world -- that is, people who hold such idiotic beliefs but still possess the intelligence to use an internet f More

Posted by sidecarsally at 20:35 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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Yeah, where's Rgirvan when you need him? More

Posted by MonsterCat at 20:35 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: Deviation This thread..........oh lord.......... ts brilliant... Im surprised you're not all over it haha More

Posted by kenada_woo at 20:33 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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the bbfc has always disliked sexual violence. i bet the film would have passed uncut had there not been a sexual element to the violent acts More

Posted by Notmyrealusername at 20:33 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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This thread..........oh lord.......... More

Posted by Deviation at 20:31 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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I think some folk are missing the point that the BBFC were making. It is not the acts in the film themselves that have led to the film being banned- rather HOW they are shown. I get the impression that the BBFC feel that HC2 sexualises the sadistic acts and presents them in a possibly passable 'are you getting off on this?' light. I remember there being an issue with Rambo where they felt that the filmmakers were actively encouraging the audience's bloodlust. A good thing? Really? I c More

Posted by Macavity at 20:29 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: Loosecrew The funny thing is that back in 70s/80s the 'video nasties' weren't that nasty. Jake West's documentary is well worth checking out. HC2 it just sounds unpleasant for the sake of being unpleasantis a shame because I thought the first film was really well done and the guy playing the mad scientist was well chosen. Pity. ut aren't the Saw films unpleasant for the sake of being unpleasant!? and yet they gross (heehee pun intended) millions of pounds and have a great advertising More

Posted by Rockin Ricky Rialto at 20:26 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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L: sidecarsally Does everyone in the UK suck? f your point was that people in countries with little censorship turn out to be jerks, then youve proved it well. Maybe if your country also censored sustained sexual violence you may have turned out to be a more decent human being More

Posted by Notmyrealusername at 20:25 on 06 June 2011 | Report This Post

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