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22 February 2010  |  Written by Phil de Semlyen  

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British cinema's annual gathering of the great and the good (or Goode, if you were on A Single Man's aisle) was the story of two films at The Royal Opera House. Avatar and The Hurt Locker each featured in eight categories, including Best Film and Best Director, while British hopes rested with An Education and its terrific, star-making turn from Carey Mulligan (one half of the terrifyingly-monikered 'Carbeouf' with new squeeze Shia LeBeouf).

It was The Hurt Locker, though, that stole the night, winning Best Film and Best Director, while all but sweeping the technical categories. Colin Firth and Carey Mulligan, meanwhile, took full advantage of being on home turf to win Best Actor and Best Actress, respectively, for A Single Man and An Education.

The first award of the night, Outstanding Debut, went to a very emotional Duncan Jones for Moon. Jones wiped away the tears to say, "It's taken me a long time to find out what I want to do with my life, but I've finally found what I really love." Amen to that, and well-deserved too. The award was won last year by Steve McQueen for Hunger and comes as belated recognition for a lo-fi sci-fi that blew our minds in 2009.

Following on from Jones came a host of technical awards, including Sound (winner: The Hurt Locker), Editing (The Hurt Locker) and Cinematography (yup, you guess it). Avatar picked up its only wins for - no surprises here - Special Visual Effects and Production Design.

No surprises in the Best Supporting Actor category, either.  Christoph Waltz, er, waltzed off with that one for Inglourious Basterds' Col. Hans Landa, humbly thanking Quentin Tarantino on his way.

Best Supporting Actress, meanwhile, went to Mo'Nique for her bruising and brutal portrayal of Precious' mum/battle-axe, Mary. Accepting in her absence, director Lee Daniels wryly expressed relief that Mo'Nique hadn't faced too much category competition from The Hurt Locker

The patriot's category of choice, Best British Film, was collected by Fish Tank, something of a turn-up considering the buzz surrounding An Education.

The Orange Rising Star award, as voted for by Twilight fans members of the public, was picked up by the ever-bashful Kristen Stewart who thanked loyal Twi-hards for their "loyalty and attentiveness". Probably more (a) than (b), though.

The gala evening finished on a note of genuine surprise, when Kathryn Bigelow's The Hurt Locker took Best Film, once again beating off the big blue. Bigelow, Mark Boal and the Lockerites all looked suitably shocked, as the expectation in some quarters had been that Avatar would take the prize.

Now, whether or not this has any bearing on the Oscars is hard to say: we'd still put money on Avatar winning Best Picture there, especially as voting for the Oscars has closed, and won't be directly affected by the BAFTAs, but a race that seemed to be a foregone conclusion has now been blown wide open.

The night's main prizes went to:

BEST FILM
The Hurt Locker

OUTSTANDING BRITISH FILM
Fish Tank

LEADING ACTOR
Colin Firth, A Single Man

LEADING ACTRESS 
Carey Mulligan, An Education

SUPPORTING ACTOR
Christoph Waltz, Inglourious Baster

SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Mo'nique, Precious: Based On The Novel Push By Sapphire

DIRECTOR
The Hurt Locker, Kathryn Bigelow

OUTSTANDING DEBUT BY A BRITISH WRITER, DIRECTOR OR PRODUCER
Duncan Jones, Moon (Director)

Click here for the full list of nominees and winners.


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L: Epiphany Demon L: theoriginalcynic I think the Academy Awards are for snobs said I wouldn't get involved but I did just laugh at this. Avatar is probably the favourite (or just just ] second favourite) to win the best film this year. So errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.... ut it won't win and I'll be shocked if it does.  Americans love to support their troops. More

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L: Deviation L: theoriginalcynic L: Deviation Oh fuck it, I am tired of arguing with you, I'd have better more well reasoned arguments with a tennis ball. Or JoeyPottr. Or Squid. Or Dan Schneider. Or a certain troll which visits here every six months which you just did a good job reminding me off. In fact I think I've seen more sense and intelligence (and film critic) in those forumites than what you wrote in the comment in bold. It's just nonsense. his is the argu More

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L: tftrman L: shool L: tftrman L: shool I've come to this party late, but I cant take anyone who makes this statement. Where are you going to take them to? erious town. Haha, I like it! I also liked Avatar but I'm not alligning myself with Cynic, he seems like a mental. Having said that, Davethestampede's views are borderline sociopathic. I'll just sit herecomfy fenced. e careful, I woudn't want you to get splinters... More

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L: shool L: tftrman L: shool I've come to this party late, but I cant take anyone who makes this statement. Where are you going to take them to? erious town. I liked Avatar alot, but Cynics taste appears to be awful and then he moans that all the films he see's are bad. 'm watching the Hurt Locker tonight, I've been meaning to see it for ages and this Bafta has given me the kick up the backside I needed. t's awful because I don't like district 9? Hmm...that's debatea More

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L: Timon l don't know that Unobtanium is vital to mankind's survival do we?ust an energy source; it could be the 'oil' of the future and mankind has just taken an easier route by mining for it instead of pursuing greener, alternative energies. But in answer to your question, humans aren't simply moving them to another blog of land. They're aggressively up-routing them and if they don't move, they will kill them. We can hardly take the moral high ground. Perhaps Spock is wrong, p More

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L: Timon We still don't know that Unobtanium is vital to mankind's survival do we? It's just an energy source; it could be the 'oil' of the future and mankind has just taken an easier route by mining for it instead of pursuing greener, alternative energies. .. good point.  I took it (given the ridiculous price of the stuff, and a few things Jake says to the magic tree) that it was vital for our continued existence.  Something I would have preferred the film dwell on a little, More

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We still don't know that Unobtanium is vital to mankind's survival do we? It's just an energy source; it could be the 'oil' of the future and mankind has just taken an easier route by mining for it instead of pursuing greener, alternative energies. But in answer to your question, humans aren't simply moving them to another blog of land. They're aggressively up-routing them and if they don't move, they will kill them. We can hardly take the moral high ground. Perhaps Spock is wrong, p More

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L: Timon "Some of the darkest chapters in the history of my world involved the forced relocation of a small group of people to satisfy the demands of a large one. I'd hoped that we had learned from our mistakes, but it seems some of us haven't. How many people does it take, DaveTheStampede, before it becomes wrong? Hmm? A thousand, fifty thousand, a million? How many people does it take, DaveTheStampede? Good point.  It made sense when I wrote it.  That, and I supp More

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L: hiptobesquare_x L: Filmfan 2 Duncan Jones was a most deserving winner and was robbedurt Locker is overrated, but well done to Bigelow. All in all, another UK film industry love in. agree with your point on Jones, but have you seen e Mann Firth was spectacular. o doubt, Firth is excellent in that movie, and it's not a sin that he won, but I just felt that Bridges deserved it more. More

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L: shool L: tftrman L: shool I've come to this party late, but I cant take anyone who makes this statement. Where are you going to take them to? erious town. sp; Haha, I like it!   I also liked Avatar but I'm not alligning myself with Cynic, he seems like a mental. Having said that, Davethestampede's views are borderline sociopathic. I'll just sit here on my comfy fence instead. More

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L: shool I'm watching the Hurt Locker tonight, I've been meaning to see it for ages and this Bafta has given me the kick up the backside I needed. sp; Hurt Locker should come with a warning - "Anyone with nervous or heart conditions are advised not to watch this film" I really liked it, and think it fully deserves recognition (especially if the closest competition is that cartoon about aliens with usb ports in their cocks or whatever) but I can accept the argument that the ou More

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L: tftrman L: shool I've come to this party late, but I cant take anyone who makes this statement. Where are you going to take them to? erious town. I liked Avatar alot, but Cynics taste appears to be awful and then he moans that all the films he see's are bad. 'm watching the Hurt Locker tonight, I've been meaning to see it for ages and this Bafta has given me the kick up the backside I needed. More

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L: Timon L: DaveTheStampede No, I simply place the survival of the human race above squatters rights.  Brutal, but nature tells us that when it comes to survival of the species, anything goes.  hat's what the Nazis said. hey also thought it was well adjusted, human nature to do things like lay down underneath glass tables during sex parties and watch each other take shits, What can we take from this? that it's ok to take something from even the wost situations a More

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L: Rgirvan44 L: Timon L: DaveTheStampede No, I simply place the survival of the human race above squatters rights.  Brutal, but nature tells us that when it comes to survival of the species, anything goes.  hat's what the Nazis said. No Star Trek Insurrection joke Timon? I am disappointed. And brilliant thread people. ine! You bring it out of me. "Some of the darkest chapters in the history of my world involved the forced relocation of a small g More

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L: shool I've come to this party late, but I cant take anyone who makes this statement. sp; Where are you going to take them to? More

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L: theoriginalcynic L: DaveTheStampede L: Deviation WHAT THE FUCK WAS IT SUPPOSE TO BE??? ney-spinning cash-cow designed to foist a pointless, unneeded gimmick upon cinema going audiences, in order to raise ticket prices and fool people into thinking that sparkly visual effects are the be all and end all.  Or is that just my overly cynical nature? I have to say, the look on Cameron's face when 'Avatar' didn't get Best Picture was priceless ust get around to watching 'Th More

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L: Timon L: DaveTheStampede No, I simply place the survival of the human race above squatters rights.  Brutal, but nature tells us that when it comes to survival of the species, anything goes.  hat's what the Nazis said. sp; No Star Trek Insurrection joke Timon? I am disappointed.   And brilliant thread people. More

Posted by Rgirvan44 at 11:24 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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L: DaveTheStampede No, I simply place the survival of the human race above squatters rights.  Brutal, but nature tells us that when it comes to survival of the species, anything goes.  hat's what the Nazis said. More

Posted by Timon at 11:06 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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L: theoriginalcynic 2) It wasn't an alien invasion per se.  Although 'Avatar' an alien invasion movie, which has been done to death and much better. is not an alien invasion movie, have you actually seen it?ote] Alas, yes, I have seen Avatar.  Kind of wish I hadn't, in that I should have listened to my instincts.  Avatar IS and alien invasion movie.  We're the aliens, and we invade.  By definition, that makes it an alien invasion movie.  Interesting that More

Posted by DaveTheStampede at 10:48 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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L: Deviation L: theoriginalcynic 1) It was South African, and perfectly legible. asn't It was South African English 100% hardcore. It couldn't be purer South African English not even if it tried. thought you were done with arguing with me More

Posted by theoriginalcynic at 09:33 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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L: hiptobesquare_x Avatar technically can be seen as an Alien invasion movie, the humans are ultimately alien to the Na'vi. ol, I knew you were gonna say that.  It's not an alien invasion movie like Independence Day or War of the worlds though is it? It's about some creatures (aliens if you like) trying to defend their home from a bunch of money grabbing humans.  More

Posted by theoriginalcynic at 09:33 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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L: Deviation Oh fuck it, I am tired of arguing with you, I'd have better more well reasoned arguments with a tennis ball. Or JoeyPottr. Or Squid. Or Dan Schneider. Or a certain troll which visits here every six months which you just did a good job reminding me off. In fact I think I've seen more sense and intelligence (and film critic) in those forumites than what you wrote in the comment in bold. It's just nonsense. his is the argument people use when they've lost an't come u More

Posted by theoriginalcynic at 09:30 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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Guys, congrats on the most entertaining thread on empire online in quite some time! Trust me to have an early night! hip is right, avatar IS an alien invasion flick, alas with the earthmen as invaders of another planet (or moon if were being fussy). last night, a new squid was born... More

Posted by adambatman82 at 08:20 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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L: Deviation L: hiptobesquare_x L: Deviation Oh fuck it, I am tired of arguing with you, I'd have better more well reasoned arguments with a tennis ball. Or JoeyPottr. Or Squid. Schneider.ertain troll which visits here every six months which you just did a good job reminding me off. In fact I think I've seen more sense and intelligence (and film critic) in those forumites than what you wrote in the comment in bold. It's just nonsense. e'll probably quote you More

Posted by hiptobesquare_x at 02:56 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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L: hiptobesquare_x L: Deviation Oh fuck it, I am tired of arguing with you, I'd have better more well reasoned arguments with a tennis ball. Or JoeyPottr. Or Squid. Schneider.ertain troll which visits here every six months which you just did a good job reminding me off. In fact I think I've seen more sense and intelligence (and film critic) in those forumites than what you wrote in the comment in bold. It's just nonsense. e'll probably quote you on his website now, 'L More

Posted by Deviation at 02:35 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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L: theoriginalcynic 1) It was South African, and perfectly legible. asn't It was South African English 100% hardcore. It couldn't be purer South African English not even if it tried. More

Posted by Deviation at 02:34 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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L: Deviation Oh fuck it, I am tired of arguing with you, I'd have better more well reasoned arguments with a tennis ball. Or JoeyPottr. Or Squid. Schneider.ertain troll which visits here every six months which you just did a good job reminding me off. In fact I think I've seen more sense and intelligence (and film critic) in those forumites than what you wrote in the comment in bold. It's just nonsense. e'll probably quote you on his website now, 'Look at my adoring fans, I More

Posted by hiptobesquare_x at 02:30 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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Avatar technically can be seen as an Alien invasion movie, the humans are ultimately alien to the Na'vi. More

Posted by hiptobesquare_x at 02:28 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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Oh fuck it, I am tired of arguing with you, I'd have better more well reasoned arguments with a tennis ball. Or JoeyPottr. Or Squid. Or Dan Schneider. Or a certain troll which visits here every six months which you just did a good job reminding me off. In fact I think I've seen more sense and intelligence (and film critic) in those forumites than what you wrote in the comment in bold. It's just nonsense. More

Posted by Deviation at 02:27 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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1) It was South African, and perfectly legible. asn'tIt wasn't an alien invasion per se.  Although 'Avatar' an alien invasion movie, which has been done to death and much better. is not an alien invasion movie, have you actually seen it?Perhaps to show the difference between what the public was told, and what actually happened.  Worked very well for me, although I can see why some would find it annoying. 4) d the humans to win.p;ct that I laughed out loud in mockery at 'Avat More

Posted by theoriginalcynic at 02:19 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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L: theoriginalcynic The guys accent annoyed me in district nine, I couldn't understand what he was saying half the time.  The alien invasion storyline has been done to death and much better.  The film started as a documentary and changed to a normal film shortly afterwards, err why? I just found the whole thing a complete waste of time.  And there's that word again, bored.  The cgi in Avatar is ground breaking, taking real life actors and placing them on the screen as More

Posted by DaveTheStampede at 02:16 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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L: theoriginalcynic The guys accent annoyed me in district nine, I couldn't understand what he was saying half the time.  The alien invasion storyline has been done to death and much better.  The film started as a documentary and changed to a normal film shortly afterwards, err why? I just found the whole thing a complete waste of time.  And there's that word again, bored.  The cgi in Avatar is ground breaking, taking real life actors and placing them on the screen as More

Posted by theoriginalcynic at 02:15 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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L: Deviation L: theoriginalcynic Oh, sleep how I miss you. :D] k, first of all you don't like Lost (which i find shocking) and you think it's slow? When you watch Battlestar? I have always felt the same critisms about battlestar throughout the three seasons I watched.  But, I liked the charachters and some of the actors...alot.  I also wanted to see where they were heading with the cylon vs human war.  As it went along it became clear that they were more con More

Posted by theoriginalcynic at 02:11 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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The guys accent annoyed me in district nine, I couldn't understand what he was saying half the time.  The alien invasion storyline has been done to death and much better.  The film started as a documentary and changed to a normal film shortly afterwards, err why? I just found the whole thing a complete waste of time.  And there's that word again, bored.  The cgi in Avatar is ground breaking, taking real life actors and placing them on the screen as animated actors.  The More

Posted by theoriginalcynic at 02:08 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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L: theoriginalcynic Oh, sleep how I miss you. :D] k, first of all you don't like Lost (which i find shocking) and you think it's slow? When you watch Battlestar? I have always felt the same critisms about battlestar throughout the three seasons I watched.  But, I liked the charachters and some of the actors...alot.  I also wanted to see where they were heading with the cylon vs human war.  As it went along it became clear that they were more concerned withging it More

Posted by Deviation at 02:08 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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L: theoriginalcynic L: DaveTheStampede L: theoriginalcynic Wall-E is overrated.  District 9 is a terrible film. haha!  No. At the very least, they both kick the ever loving piss out of 'Avatar', and 'Wall-E' is one of the most beautiful films I've ever seen. all-E a rip off of Johnny five compete with the other pixar films I mentioned above.  It's an ok film, but very boring and draggy in parts.  And I hated that they used real life actors an More

Posted by DaveTheStampede at 02:01 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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L: Deviation ou have far too much time on your hands...seriously... Changeling Hellboy 2 Iron Man Kung Fu Panda No Country for Old Men Sweeney Todd Wall-E The Wrestler Gran Torino These are all good films but I can't honestly say that I'd give any of them five stars.  Some of them three and some of them four stars.  A five star film should be a masterpiece.  Haven't seen most of the others and the one's I have I didn't rate.  I don't More

Posted by theoriginalcynic at 01:56 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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L: Deviation ou have far too much time on your hands...seriously... Changeling Hellboy 2 Iron Man Kung Fu Panda No Country for Old Men Sweeney Todd Wall-E The Wrestler Gran Torino These are all good films but I can't honestly say that I'd give any of them five stars.  Some of them three and some of them four stars.  A five star film should be a masterpiece.  Haven't seen most of the others and the one's I have I didn't rate.  I don't have the time More

Posted by hiptobesquare_x at 01:54 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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BAHH. Worthington. It distresses me how much I loathe this man. I gave him the benefit of the doubt, but alas, he really is a philistine. I'm using that it in the nd the Whale , based solely on his choice of film roles. More

Posted by hiptobesquare_x at 01:48 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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ou have far too much time on your hands...seriously... Changeling Hellboy 2 Iron Man Kung Fu Panda No Country for Old Men Sweeney Todd Wall-E The Wrestler Gran Torino These are all good films but I can't honestly say that I'd give any of them five stars.  Some of them three and some of them four stars.  A five star film should be a masterpiece.  Haven't seen most of the others and the one's I have I didn't rate.  I don't have the time or th More

Posted by Deviation at 01:48 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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Ok, but before I go... you didn't say that before, you just said it was a mediocre cast.  Having those three actors in your film is not mediocre.  I will wake up with the sense to go and watch Avatar again tomorrow (for the second time)  More

Posted by theoriginalcynic at 01:47 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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Weaver is great in Aliens, adequate in Avatar, Worthington is shit, and Ribisi is mis-cast. Let's hope you'll wake up the next morning with a little sense More

Posted by Miles Messervy 007 at 01:43 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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I think you should if you think that sigourney weaver, giovanni ribisi and sam worthington is a mediocre cast.  Anyway, I'll leave you too it kids...my bed awaits. More

Posted by theoriginalcynic at 01:40 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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L: theoriginalcynic Wall-E a rip off of Johnny five compete with the other pixar films I mentioned above.  It's an ok film, but very boring and draggy in parts.  And I hated that they used real life actors and animated actors.  Why not just animated? st nod along, isn't that the etiquette? More

Posted by Miles Messervy 007 at 01:36 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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L: DaveTheStampede L: theoriginalcynic Wall-E is overrated.  District 9 is a terrible film. haha!  No. At the very least, they both kick the ever loving piss out of 'Avatar', and 'Wall-E' is one of the most beautiful films I've ever seen. all-E a rip off of Johnny five compete with the other pixar films I mentioned above.  It's an ok film, but very boring and draggy in parts.  And I hated that they used real life actors and animated actors.  W More

Posted by theoriginalcynic at 01:31 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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L: Miles Messervy 007 What kind of criticism is overrated anyway? You can only say something like that when you follow it up, for example - "Avatar is overrated because beneath its admittedly fantastic video game visuals it's got an awful script, mediocre cast, and a douchebag director" ote] Damn, so many posts, yawn so late at night.  Overrated means Empire gave it five stars and I don't think it deserves that.  More

Posted by theoriginalcynic at 01:29 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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Posted by hiptobesquare_x at 01:27 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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L: theoriginalcynic Wall-E is overrated.  District 9 is a terrible film. haha!  No. At the very least, they both kick the ever loving piss out of 'Avatar', and 'Wall-E' is one of the most beautiful films I've ever seen. More

Posted by DaveTheStampede at 01:27 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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Hiptobesquarex We do, Tarantino's masterpiece is Pulp Fiction.  I own Wall-E but I think it's one of pixars weakest.  No where near as good as Toy Story, Finding Nemo or Bolt (for example) More

Posted by theoriginalcynic at 01:27 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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What kind of criticism is overrated anyway? You can only say something like that when you follow it up, for example - "Avatar is overrated because beneath its admittedly fantastic video game visuals it's got an awful script, mediocre cast, and a douchebag director" More

Posted by Miles Messervy 007 at 01:26 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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L: theoriginalcynic L: DaveTheStampede L: Deviation WHAT THE FUCK WAS IT SUPPOSE TO BE??? ney-spinning cash-cow designed to foist a pointless, unneeded gimmick upon cinema going audiences, in order to raise ticket prices and fool people into thinking that sparkly visual effects are the be all and end all.  Or is that just my overly cynical nature? I have to say, the look on Cameron's face when 'Avatar' didn't get Best Picture was priceless ust get around to watching 'Th More

Posted by hiptobesquare_x at 01:26 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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L: theoriginalcynic L: Deviation No, it's an ill judged, poorly conceived opinion. And if you really thought that there weren't even 20 good films in 2008 then you really must be either cynical or miserable about cinema. Before the Devil Knows you're Dead Gomorrah Man on Wire There will be Blood 4 Months 2 Weeks and 2 Days Alexandra Changeling Cloverfield The Divingll and the ButterflyThe Edge of HeavenFrost/Nixon Gone Baby Gone Happy Go Lucky Hellboy 2 More

Posted by hiptobesquare_x at 01:24 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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L: DaveTheStampede L: Deviation WHAT THE FUCK WAS IT SUPPOSE TO BE??? ney-spinning cash-cow designed to foist a pointless, unneeded gimmick upon cinema going audiences, in order to raise ticket prices and fool people into thinking that sparkly visual effects are the be all and end all.  Or is that just my overly cynical nature? I have to say, the look on Cameron's face when 'Avatar' didn't get Best Picture was priceless ust get around to watching 'The Hurt Locker' at some p More

Posted by theoriginalcynic at 01:23 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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L: Deviation No, it's an ill judged, poorly conceived opinion. And if you really thought that there weren't even 20 good films in 2008 then you really must be either cynical or miserable about cinema. Before the Devil Knows you're Dead Gomorrah Man on Wire There will be Blood 4 Months 2 Weeks and 2 Days Alexandra Changeling Cloverfield The Divingll and the ButterflyThe Edge of HeavenFrost/Nixon Gone Baby Gone Happy Go Lucky Hellboy 2 In Bruges Iron Man Ken More

Posted by theoriginalcynic at 01:09 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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L: theoriginalcynic Deviation You can't say it's untrue, it all comes down to personal opinion.  And from what I've seen, and I've seen a lot of films most films (imo) that are being made are average, two star films, there's a handful of three and four star films and even less five star films.  far too many films being made these days in search of the almightly buck Many of them shouldn't even get past the planning stage.  I rate movies on if I'd put it in my blu-ray More

Posted by Deviation at 01:08 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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L: Deviation WHAT THE FUCK WAS IT SUPPOSE TO BE??? ney-spinning cash-cow designed to foist a pointless, unneeded gimmick upon cinema going audiences, in order to raise ticket prices and fool people into thinking that sparkly visual effects are the be all and end all.  Or is that just my overly cynical nature? I have to say, the look on Cameron's face when 'Avatar' didn't get Best Picture was priceless ust get around to watching 'The Hurt Locker' at some point. It's just a sh More

Posted by DaveTheStampede at 01:05 on 23 February 2010 | Report This Post

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