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Will The Hobbit Be A Trilogy?
We're saying no, but that's the rumour

19 August 2009  |  Written by Owen Williams  |  Source: MarketSaw

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This is Rumour Control. Here are... some rumours. MarketSaw, a blog focused on all things 3D, has heard from a "trusted source" in the Hobbit camp that a hitherto unmentioned third instalment is in the works.

Mr. Reliable's exact words are apparently that "I'm hearing, and it's only speculation at the moment, that it will be three [films]... I hear this from lots of people and have seen things to indicate this may be the way it's heading: Del Toro on Hobbit duty and Jackson on the 'bridge' project. Time will tell."

Time will tell indeed. El Reliablo also claims that Jackson is keen on 3D, whilst Del Toro is holding back, which does at least chime with some previous reports.

But if splitting The Hobbit across two films was already intended to allow breathing space for the inclusion of expanded Middle Earth material from Tolkien's copious Lord of the Rings appendices and The Silmarillion, what would a third film achieve? Surely there's no need for a 'bridge' between The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings: we've seen all we need to see. We know where the One Ring was in the intervening years.

We can think of the story of the five wizards (Saruman and Gandalf among them) sent by the Valar to resist Sauron, but by rights that predates the events of The Hobbit. Or there's the issue of Sauron's development from The Hobbit's briefly mentioned Necromancer of Mirkwood into the Big Fiery Eye we know and love. But that's seriously esoteric stuff, and it's hard to see quite how it could form the basis for a special FX 3D blockbuster extravaganza.

Sounds decidedly fishy to us (so Gollum at least might be excited by it), but what do you think? Can any of the Tolkien experts out there think of a way to carve The Hobbit into three, without it outstaying its welcome?


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Bring on Grendel
We need three films to include the story of how the Silmarillion evolved into the legendary progressive rock band Marillion. More

Posted by MattJW at 15:42 on 29 August 2009 | Report This Post

What about the Tolkien estate?
Will Christopher Tolkien let this happen? Generaly he is quite hard to let go the rights to make something shitty with the inheritence from his father (which is to keep the rights and clean the mess in his work and preserve it from being misused) By the way, already a 2 film for the hobbit seems useless, the amount of events in the hobbit is a lot smaller than in LOTR, I don't see where the hell they could make 2 movies about it. In the other hand, make a movie about the time between B More

Posted by laime ithil at 13:35 on 20 August 2009 | Report This Post

There is a Link Story between Hobbit and LOTR
A third story is possible, but a bit limited on Characters. In the books there is mention of Aragorn (at the request of Gandalf) tracking Gollum from the Misty Mountains to Morder, captureing Gollum and bringing him to the Elves (Legolas' dad the Films Gollum knows about Shelob, how if he has never been to Morder (which he has and Frodo knows third film is possible, finishing with Gandalf going to Hobbiton to see Bilbo/Frodo about the ring. As for 3D, some are made in both (Dark Knight, G-F More

Posted by Omega Leader at 11:33 on 20 August 2009 | Report This Post

SILMARILLION
First, I think the rumour is dead false. And to film the Silmarillion, you're looking at a book which covers events ten times the scope of Lord of the Rings in just about every chapter. You'd need to do more films than James Bond to cover the Silmarillion... Create the world. Create middle earth. fight morgoth. make the people of middle earth. fight morgoth. elves fight morgoth. they lose. gods fight morgoth. they win. meanwhile, it's been at least 2,000 years at war. then, bloody sauron pops More

Posted by IncrediballisticDude at 11:01 on 20 August 2009 | Report This Post

"Trusted source" unnamed as usual
Give me a fucking break. I hate how any cock with a blog can make up any bullshit story and double his website's traffic just by saying the news is from a trusted or unnamed sorce. More

Posted by bbbbeeeennnn at 04:37 on 20 August 2009 | Report This Post

tom bombadil
the third film should be set after the hobbits leave the shire and before they reach bree and it should recount their time spent with tom bombadil-bombadillo. More

Posted by bigdave3000 at 22:10 on 19 August 2009 | Report This Post

Do this
Del toro does a 4/5 hour Hobbit film split into two parts with no devation from the book.PJ give us 4/6 Hour film split of The Sillmarilion/unfinished tales history of Middle earth?The whole Morgoth saga ending with Sauron's accent to power and undoing? More

Posted by danbo1138 at 19:52 on 19 August 2009 | Report This Post

Happily Never After
well first of all forget that 3d shite!!!i dont want it.. but if PJ & DT is able to bring the hobbit in 3 movies and make it as thrilling as LOTR, then im all for it.. but i wonder how they could spin 3 movies out of that book. other then really making sertain parts that was in the book miles longer and more deeper in the movie by adding parts that wasnt in the book its self. they did it with RINGS so surly they will do it with the hobbit. im also asuming they add parts from the appen More

Posted by DeadCell79 at 19:40 on 19 August 2009 | Report This Post

Happily Never After
well first of all forget that 3d shite!!!i dont want it.. but if PJ & DT is able to bring the hobbit in 3 movies and make it as thrilling as LOTR, then im all for it.. but i wonder how they could spin 3 movies out of that book. other then really making sertain parts that was in the book miles longer and more deeper in the movie by adding parts that wasnt in the book its self. they did it with RINGS so surly they will do it with the hobbit. im also asuming they add parts from the appen More

Posted by DeadCell79 at 19:40 on 19 August 2009 | Report This Post

2 films is the limit on this one even if they did include Gandalfs unwritten detour. The Silmarillion as a trilogy? That would be a definite prospect. More

Posted by steveg66 at 19:34 on 19 August 2009 | Report This Post

Happily Never After
well first of all forget that 3d shite!!!i dont want it.. but if PJ & DT is able to bring the hobbit in 3 movies and make it as thrilling as LOTR, then im all for it.. but i wonder how they could spin 3 movies out of that book. other then really making sertain parts that was in the book miles longer and more deeper in the movie by adding parts that wasnt in the book its self. they did it with RINGS so surly they will do it with the hobbit. im also asuming they add parts from the appen More

Posted by DeadCell79 at 19:27 on 19 August 2009 | Report This Post

RE: RE: NO TO 3D!!!!!!!!
I appreciate your comment but i'm quite skeptical when it comes to Avatar. If the film itself is as good as it is being hyped about then fine but I won't be going just for the 3D. A year down the line when you are watching it at home it still has to come up with the goods. More

Posted by kinobick at 17:33 on 19 August 2009 | Report This Post

RE: RE: NO TO 3D!!!!!!!!
I appreciate your comment but i'm quite skeptical when it comes to Avatar. If the film itself is as good as it is being hyped about then fine but I won't be going just for the 3D. A year down the line when you are watching it at home it still has to come up with the goods. More

Posted by kinobick at 17:31 on 19 August 2009 | Report This Post

Mmmmmmm
Ok 3 films is probably pushing it without deliving into Tolkien's other works, which are really intense, heavy duty, heavy reading epics and not very movie script friendly. The idea of bringing in the Necromancer is pretty cool to beef it up to two movies but theres no way of squeezing 3 good movies out of this. And 3D? no way! its a gimmick that should stick to theme parks! More

Posted by Web Head at 15:56 on 19 August 2009 | Report This Post

RE: Three's a crowd.
but, if only you'd been ng realise that films 2 and three are set between rings and hobbit. it does seem a bit like cynical money-grabbing, though. they're milking it as much as spiderman now. i think that jackson should be concentrating on halo before somenone decides to give it to michael bay More

Posted by bleugh07 at 14:29 on 19 August 2009 | Report This Post

RE: NO TO 3D!!!!!!!!
i think i'd wait until we've all seen avatar to judge so soon More

Posted by bleugh07 at 14:25 on 19 August 2009 | Report This Post

NO TO 3D!!!!!!!!
I saw coraline and bolt in 3D and it really ruined them for me. You lose so much detail and I found the slight colour shift off putting. Its strange that more and more people are striving to get crisp, bright, perfect images at home on their plasma TV's and the film inudstry is backing a dated, annoying gimmick that had it's time ten years ago. It's all about piracy, it's not the future. Their just too far invested now to admit it. More

Posted by kinobick at 13:40 on 19 August 2009 | Report This Post

cant be done
no way can they squeeze 3 movies out of that tiny book More

Posted by dob69 at 13:38 on 19 August 2009 | Report This Post

Here's the place where we're going to!!!
They could cut huge chunks out of all LOTR films by cutting out the scenes of major characters stopping outside of where ever it is they were going, to announce where it is they are, even though they knew they were going there in the first place. Bloody anoying!!! More

Posted by MaxRenn at 13:05 on 19 August 2009 | Report This Post

I don't want The Hobbit whether it's 1,2 or 3 films to be in 3D. Let's have The Hobbit as the last epic films to not be in 3D. Plus, it will be in keeping with Rings. More

Posted by stewart4 at 11:44 on 19 August 2009 | Report This Post

I don't reckon it will, ...
but they could always do a separate movie with motion capture 3D. That would be cool. More

Posted by Nicky C at 10:41 on 19 August 2009 | Report This Post

RE: Three's a crowd.
Turning a 1000+ pages book into 3 films = FTW!!! Turning a 400 page book into 3 films = WTF??? More

Posted by grucl at 10:07 on 19 August 2009 | Report This Post

Three's a crowd.
Considering that these films will undoubtedly push the 3hour mark each, I cant really think of how they could engineer another whole 3 hours of captivating filler material before the climactic finale. A 9hour tale doesn't make much sense surely? There make be a shedload of content to the book but I, like most Tolkien nuts out there would much rather see just 2 films.... 2 glorious, concise and riveting films - not 3 slow and needlessly messy ones. More

Posted by Iroh414 at 10:01 on 19 August 2009 | Report This Post

RE: NO to 3D!!!
Milking the cow by the sounds of it. Udderly ridiculous. More

Posted by CORLEONE at 09:54 on 19 August 2009 | Report This Post

NO to 3D!!!
What is this fascination with all things 3D at the minute!? It's f**k all use to those who get sick attempting to watch through such filters, costs extra for the glasses... and before you say it, the supposed 2D versions which are meant to be released at the same time as an alternative have all disappeared from my local screens - hence why I never saw Ice Age 3 at the cinema! As for it being used in The Hobbit - I really hope not! Plus, spreading this over three films would really wer the story More

Posted by losthighway at 09:52 on 19 August 2009 | Report This Post

Why not four? Ten? One hundred and eleventy?
The Hobbit's great, but I think two films is pushing it, let alone three. If the article is true, it's sad - LOTR always seemed like a labour of love for Mr. Jackson, whereas these projects seem to be more and more in control of the money men, and all they do is hide in their mountains seeking riches, caring nothing for the wishes of others. More

Posted by The_Hat at 09:48 on 19 August 2009 | Report This Post

Nooooo!
I can think of nothing I'd less like to watch than The Silmarillion, if the Lord of the Rings was once thought of as unfilmable, then The Silmarillion has the mantle. Dull and drawn out, hard as hell to fathom. And three films for The Hobbit? Much as I love the book, please don't..... More

Posted by xarkaltos at 09:17 on 19 August 2009 | Report This Post

They could do a really really long ending to the film and drag it out in a third movie after all they managed half a movie of endings in ROTK.... More

Posted by haffy73 at 08:34 on 19 August 2009 | Report This Post

Greedy little hobbitses...
Think they might be pushing it for three movies... More

Posted by Hoylus at 07:53 on 19 August 2009 | Report This Post

If they dish it out there is no doubt that I, and all other tolkien nuts will see it, but at the moment, I'd rather like just the 2 Hobbit films. Though if the 3rd film were the Silmarillion (which it won't be), then I'd be very excited. More

Posted by crazymoviesdude at 07:52 on 19 August 2009 | Report This Post

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