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Four Hobbits Back For The Hobbit?
Dominic Monaghan says they might be

19 January 2009  |  Written by Helen O'Hara  |  Source: MTV

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Well, here's a weird story. MTV spoke to Dominic Monaghan, former Hobbit in The Lord of the Rings, and he says that he and the other original quartet of Fellowship hobbits might be back for, well, The Hobbit.

Now without extensive rewriting, Merry (Monaghan), Pippin (Billy Boyd), Frodo (Elijah Wood) and Sam (Sean Astin) do not at any point appear in The Hobbit - so we're guessing that, if they are indeed back, it'll be in the mooted second film, the bridge between the original story, wherein Bilbo travels with 13 dwarves to slay a dragon and steal its treasure, and the events of The Lord of the Rings. Given that Frodo, the eldest of the quartet, isn't born until some 27 years after the events of The Hobbit, even that interpretation involves some considerable narrative wriggling.

 The story doesn't give any specifics, but you can read everything Monaghan has to say here, and let us know what you think below.

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What would be good is if the Elijah, Billy, Dom and Sam were in The Hobbit but not as Hobbits but as dwarves. Part of Thorin's party. More

Posted by Pallando at 12:53 on 26 January 2009 | Report This Post

Please god shoot me now.
WTF! Why the hell would the 4 hobbits be in this movie or the sequel? They would have to be lil kids and not do very much or leave the shire, and that would make a shitty film. My guess is that the second film might have something to do with Dol Gildor, but if its set after the events of the Hobbit, that shouldnt be the case. They shold just make the hobbit into 2 films so everything can be fitted in, instead of missing stuff like the Barrow Wights from Fellowship and Tom Bombadill, and other st More

Posted by slimmy at 00:59 on 21 January 2009 | Report This Post

L: shool That interview sounds to me like he just really /i]to be in it and is asking the writers to shoe horn him in. sp; it does a bit doesn't it?   if they do the job well though it's not such a bad thing i suppose More

Posted by dr. salvador at 19:52 on 20 January 2009 | Report This Post

Salt.  Pinch.  Large. Perhaps for some prologue at the end of the bridge movie, but they've already said they have plenty of material in Tolkien's official works to base the 'bridge' film on.  The Hobbit (part 1) will almost certainly be a more or less straight up adaptation of the book. More

Posted by KeithM at 18:16 on 20 January 2009 | Report This Post

To be honest, I can't see the 4 hobbits storyline coming to anything in any case.  The Tolkein estate tend to be pretty protective of the LOTR mythology.  Ok the console & MMORPG games take some liberties (to enhance gameplay) but I couldn't see them stretching to storylines outside of  theMiddle Earth mythology.   I like the ideas around the War of the Ring etc as these remain within the spirit of Tolkein, add to the mythology leading upto The Hobbiut & LOT More

Posted by never at 15:38 on 20 January 2009 | Report This Post

If they're really desperate to add on a story to increase it's epicness, why not do a Sauron origin story?  Start off with The Silmarillion or at least the War of Wrath, give Melkor/Morgoth a fair bit of screen time which I'd die to see, and then the rise of Sauron.    You could have Balrogs on the back of dragons, battles to beat Helm's Deep, the lot!  That's a story worth showing and is from Tolkien himself, not some kind of filler created by Del Toro, as much as I re More

Posted by Vito_Andolini at 14:57 on 20 January 2009 | Report This Post

That interview sounds to me like he just really /i]to be in it and is asking the writers to shoe horn him in. we'll see. More

Posted by shool at 14:20 on 20 January 2009 | Report This Post

They might need to use Finchers de-ageing CG technique. More

Posted by Workshed at 10:29 on 20 January 2009 | Report This Post

what are they doing? I'm like one of the biggest lotr fans,but this makes no sense. however, I am still looking forward and keeping an open mind for these films as they are in good hands. More

Posted by vivlitherland at 10:08 on 20 January 2009 | Report This Post

As much as I'd love to see the cracking cast reunited I really can't see how they can make this work. It reeks of arrogance to assume that you can 'fill in the blanks' in Tolkien's works so the 2nd Hobbit movie has always had me concerned. Don't ge t me wrong - I adored the LotR movies and very excited to see what Del Toro can do but I don't want them making up whole storylines. More

Posted by Jayseph at 10:03 on 20 January 2009 | Report This Post

But more importanly...
What's the better made up language, Elvish or Klingon? More

Posted by Oli Monkey at 00:20 on 20 January 2009 | Report This Post

Surely the 4 hobbits wouldn't be involved in an "adventure" story, as I thought part of the drama of the book/film of LOTR was that these four had never been outside the shire before, or faced such evil. So will the new one be based entirely in the Shire? More

Posted by Pipkin3 at 23:00 on 19 January 2009 | Report This Post

Stay true to the story
Not a very good idea. The LOTR-trilogy was brilliant, one of the reasons being that it stayed true to the story only changing what was necessary. To completely create a new story to bring back the four hobbits is a different thing entirely, and would ruin the magic of the trilogy. More

Posted by AstridOlga at 22:16 on 19 January 2009 | Report This Post

RE: Four Hobbits Back For The Hobbit?
Hopefully they just let WETA go nuts on the makeup and let the 4 of them be some of the dwarves. That'd be totally fine in my book and would actually be pretty cool to keep the cast together More

Posted by BrianShields25 at 21:06 on 19 January 2009 | Report This Post

I'm more interested in what Smaug is going to look like... let's see some concept artwork! More

Posted by muchobenny at 21:02 on 19 January 2009 | Report This Post

Scabby, I'd watch Hobbit 2: Electric Boogaloo... More

Posted by captainamazing at 19:55 on 19 January 2009 | Report This Post

Could even be a brief pause, cutting to Galadriel looking at events past, present and future in her mirror. As cameos go, it wouldn't be stretching too far and let's face it, if Frodo, Sam, Merry and Pippin are seen in either movie, a cameo will be all we see of them. More

Posted by keatsmeister at 19:44 on 19 January 2009 | Report This Post

I'm not against a bridge film as long as it can be justified. At first I thought it would be the story of where Gandalf went during the events of the Hobbit, maybe tied in with Aragons story (for which there is material to use as a jumping off point)   However I don't see the value of visiting Hobbiton in that film. Nothing happens, maybe Frodos parents deaths but I don't think you can hinge a whole film around that.   I would much prefer Aragons story, his journeys in Rohan More

Posted by Rgirvan44 at 19:04 on 19 January 2009 | Report This Post

You people on here asume to much, the bloody script hasnt even been finished yet and already the moaning has started. Nobody knows how or what will be involved plotwise in the second film so for now please keep your negative thoughts to yourselfs. More

Posted by coolasice2001uk at 19:04 on 19 January 2009 | Report This Post

No No No No No No No No No. There is no way they should be in the Hobbit unless the film starts with Sam telling his kiddies about Bilbo's adventures and the whole thing is just one flash back....but then you get into Princess Bride territory and it could seem a little corny. As for The Hobbit 2....NO!!!! Leave it you money grabbers. Unless The Hobbit is being broken into two films then there is no need to invent something to sandwich between The Hobbit and LOTR. We already know what happens to More

Posted by nclowe at 18:50 on 19 January 2009 | Report This Post

RE: Four Hobbits Back For The Hobbit?
I imagine they may pop up at the end in an epilogue type thing to show the passage of time which would probably then lead to the next film. That's fine in my opinion and would work well as they obviously want to leave the end of The Hobbit open ended for the sequel: Hobbit 2: Electric Boogaloo. More

Posted by Scabby at 18:45 on 19 January 2009 | Report This Post

RE: Four Hobbits Back For The Hobbit?
It all sounds a bit vague at the moment. I'm not sure if it's the best idea in the world. I wouldn't like to think that they'd just shoe-horn in some familiar characters from the LOTR trilogy to keep fans happy, or to maintain a continuity. With the same WETA team looking after bit shouldn't be a problem in ensuring that a familiar look and feel is maintained across all five films. More

Posted by Acho at 18:38 on 19 January 2009 | Report This Post

Now don't get me wrong, I love The Hobbit and love the film adaptations, but a 'prequel' showing the four Hobbits growing up in the shire leading upto the events of The Lord Of The Rings doesn't bode well, whatever the ideas of the crew behind The Hobbit. If this is indeed going to be the book and then some stretched over two films, it's going to be a ballsy approach to not end on the events of the book. More

Posted by Leightwinst at 17:58 on 19 January 2009 | Report This Post

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