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Robert Downey Jr. Talks Avengers
Including hints about a BIG character

26 November 2008  |  Written by Chris Hewitt  |  Source: MTV

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Robert Downey Jr. – possibly the coolest man on the planet right now – spoke briefly to MTV about Marvel’s bold and ambitious plans for their Avengers movie, which will bring together Captain America, Thor, Hulk, Nick Fury and, of course, Iron Man in a mega-adventure due to hit cinemas in 2011. And by doing so, he seems to have dropped one hell of an interesting clue about one of the characters involved.

“The danger you run with colliding all these worlds is [director] Jon [Favreau] was very certain that Iron Man should be set in a very realistic world,” said Downey, before adding, intriguingly, “Nothing that happened in Iron Man is really outside the realm of possibility. Once you start talking about Valhalla and supersized super soldiers and jolly green giants it warrants much further discussion.”

Now, Downey’s mention of Valhalla is an obvious reference to Thor, the Norse God of Thunder who likes to hang out in Valhalla on his days off. Kenneth Branagh's directing that movie, for a 2010 release. Jolly green giants… well, that’s the Hulk, who is rumoured to be the catalyst that brings the Avengers together.

But it’s the other reference that has set internet tongues a-wagging, with some speculating that ‘supersized super soldiers’ is a clue that suggests that Captain America, who we’ll first see in World War II flick The First Avenger: Captain America, will be somehow bigger. But we say pish-posh: it could also be a reference to Hank Pym, the scientist who becomes Ant-Man (to which Edgar Wright is still attached), as he can also become bigger. Or could Tim Roth’s The Abomination feature as a bad guy? After all, he is a supersized super soldier.

We’ll find out soon enough. Just under three years to go. And even though that seems a long way away, Downey – who will reprise his role as Tony Stark/Iron Man for the movie and Iron Man 2 & 3 - is already aware of the immense pressure building on this ultra-ambitious project.

“It has to be the crowning blow of Marvel’s best and brightest because it’s the hardest thing to get right. It’s tough to spin all the plates for one of these characters,” he said. “If we don’t get it right it’s really, really going to suck,” said Downey. And, to be fair, he has a point. But somehow, we have a feeling than when the Avengers eventually assemble, it could be something pretty special.


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Posted by shanewire at 14:48 on 27 November 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Robert Downey Jr. Talks Avengers
Saying that the Avengers movie will be a "stupid mess" is more than a bit premature . The mistakes made prior in say Spidey 3 when there were too many bad guys will be in the minds of the guys given the task of bringing Avengers to the screen . Also the mistakes with the reboot of Hulk will have been taken on board and brainstormed .There is tons of time to prepare and get it right , tons of time for us to see all the heroes unfold in there own instalments , tons of time to listen to the fans a More

Posted by Beno at 09:45 on 27 November 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Robert Downey Jr. Talks Avengers
L: Wilbert L: Monkeyshaver Exactly. ngers movie will be a stupid messar too many characters & ruin the semi-realistic tone that Iron Man created. The ending of Iron Man with Sam fuckin’ Jackson turning up was awful & doesn’t bode well for the future.ote] Wow, what's it like being psychic? e ran out of stories about jonathan ross so decided to post yet more negativity about marvel films. hes trolled about in the marvel movies thread in the past, its all very sad. More

Posted by adambatman82 at 21:40 on 26 November 2008 | Report This Post

RE: The problem with Avengers
L: mighty mick It's not so much getting these heroes together that's going to be the hard part - rather getting them together by 2011! 3 years is definetly not enough time to establish these characters, who might need more than one film in order to do so. Ok, Ironman and Hulk already have the job half done, but it's Cap and especially Thor which worry me. Marvel's shot themselves in the foot by establishing a release date before even launching the films into official production, so my bigg More

Posted by BatFan at 20:02 on 26 November 2008 | Report This Post

Will Edward Norton return as Banner?
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Posted by darth silas at 20:01 on 26 November 2008 | Report This Post

The problem with Avengers
It's not so much getting these heroes together that's going to be the hard part - rather getting them together by 2011! 3 years is definetly not enough time to establish these characters, who might need more than one film in order to do so. Ok, Ironman and Hulk already have the job half done, but it's Cap and especially Thor which worry me. Marvel's shot themselves in the foot by establishing a release date before even launching the films into official production, so my biggest concern is whethe More

Posted by mighty mick at 19:48 on 26 November 2008 | Report This Post

Could work...
but then again, could be awful. They really should stick to the Ultimates version. That made an effort to fit all the disparate characters into the same universe (Thor even worked - everyone thought he was a superpowered nutter with delusions of godhood rather than an actual god). The Hulk movie already included Captain America's whole supersoldier thing. Character development is bound be as sketchy as in any other 'group' movie - there just isn't the time to focus on individuals - but it sounds More

Posted by The_Hat at 19:02 on 26 November 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Robert Downey Jr. Talks Avengers
I was going to ask, "what's it like being a miserable c*nt?", but your question is probably the more diplomatic. Just kidding monkeyshaving bloke.  Smile ffs. More

Posted by KeithM at 17:54 on 26 November 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Robert Downey Jr. Talks Avengers
L: Monkeyshaver Exactly. ngers movie will be a stupid messar too many characters & ruin the semi-realistic tone that Iron Man created. The ending of Iron Man with Sam fuckin’ Jackson turning up was awful & doesn’t bode well for the future.ote] Wow, what's it like being psychic? More

Posted by Wilbert at 17:38 on 26 November 2008 | Report This Post

RE: I hate to be the director for The Avengers
L: Taz69 All those heroes and their mythologies, it'll be a mess... o, I don't believe it will - because each character's 'mythology' will be dealt with in their own, solo movies.  That's why The Avengers promises to be different - it won't be bogged down in having to fill the audience in on all the character's back stories and can get right down to the story, without all that preamble... All they need to do is establish the team - already partly done in Iron Man and The Incredib More

Posted by KeithM at 17:22 on 26 November 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Robert Downey Jr. Talks Avengers
L: Monkeyshaver ing of Iron Man with Sam fuckin' Jackson turning up was a stroke of fucking genius & bodes extremely well for the future.ote] Corrected your post Monkeyshaver. 1. If an Avengers movie doesn't excite, then: (a) Nothing superhero related will ever excite you and you should probably stick to romantic comedies/worthy European borefests/Indiana Jones/Superman Returns. (b) If you do have any affinity whatsoever with superheroes, then you need to see a doctor More

Posted by KeithM at 15:52 on 26 November 2008 | Report This Post

I hate to be the director for The Avengers
All those heroes and their mythologies, it'll be a mess as some will undoubtedly be pushed to sidelines (I'm looking at you Thor) whilst who ever's playing Capt America and Robert Downey jr. dominate procedings. Hopefully it will feature Tim Roth as he was the best thing in an otherwise average sequel to Ang Lee's dumb-a-thon Hulk. More

Posted by Taz69 at 15:46 on 26 November 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Robert Downey Jr. Talks Avengers
L: Rumbaabaa In trying to find morsels of news-nuggets in Downey Jr's throwaway remarks, aren't you missing what he's actually getting at? That the concept of an Avengers movie is at odds with the realistic(ish) world that Iron Man was set in? A superhero movie involving a super soldier, a man in tin suit, a big green monster-man, a teeny little insect-man and a Norse god just sounds weird to me, and would surely have to be a camp affair with huge dollops of humour to work, if not an out-a More

Posted by Monkeyshaver at 14:16 on 26 November 2008 | Report This Post

Valhalla
When RDJ - thats how i refer to him as haha - talks about Valhalla and supersized soldiers and green giants the first thing i thought he was talking about was the production company of The Incredible Hulk - Gale Ann Hurds company Valhalla - it seems probable that there might be a conflict of interests within the production companies that made Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk - just me??? More

Posted by niallday at 13:38 on 26 November 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Robert Downey Jr. Talks Avengers
In trying to find morsels of news-nuggets in Downey Jr's throwaway remarks, aren't you missing what he's actually getting at? That the concept of an Avengers movie is at odds with the realistic(ish) world that Iron Man was set in? A superhero movie involving a super soldier, a man in tin suit, a big green monster-man, a teeny little insect-man and a Norse god just sounds weird to me, and would surely have to be a camp affair with huge dollops of humour to work, if not an out-and-out comedy. More

Posted by Rumbaabaa at 13:20 on 26 November 2008 | Report This Post

what brought the avengers together?
the avengers were bought together to fight Loki, and that's the same in Ultimates. For those who aren't comic buffs, Ultimates was a comic created in the same style as a movie. In it - they are talking about movie rights of the Ultimates during some quiet time, Nick Fury (normally a white guy but black in this comic) gets asked who would play him - his answer "the coolest man on the planet people - Samuel Jackson" I'll put £50 down right now that it will be Loki... More

Posted by Malibu1981 at 13:19 on 26 November 2008 | Report This Post

NOT A GENRE! AT ALL!
Superhero movies are NOT a genre and NEVER will be. They have source material from the same medium. Are films based on novels the same genre? Are films based on TV shows the same genre? No. Stop being silly. Spider-Man is not the same genre as The Dark Knight. Hulk is not the same genre as Constantine. End of... More

Posted by Nicky C at 12:47 on 26 November 2008 | Report This Post

This movie won't kill of Superhero movies
Thats like saying they can be killed off. Which I'm sure alot of lobotomised cinema goers would like. Superhero movies are a new genre. Like Sci-Fi or Horror. And they will always be around. Just cos some people dont get it, they want it to end. I hate costume period dramas, but it doesnt mean that one bad one (and lets face it, there have been quite a few) is gonna kill em all off. What does need killing off is Miley Cyrus. Stuck up little bitch. There you go. Pour all your hatred into her. More

Posted by coomi01 at 11:30 on 26 November 2008 | Report This Post

Downey may have been refering to the Ultimates series of Graphic Novels which I believe is being used as a template for the avengers movie. In this Hank Pym uses a serum to increase his Body size to 60 feet but it is then used on other soldiers and is improved to allow them to be even bigger in size. I 'd recommend that everyone read the graphic novels if they can't wait for the movies but its also good as something to compare the movie versions of these charectors to the page versions, it wou More

Posted by Rickie.Littlewood at 11:28 on 26 November 2008 | Report This Post

Cap America
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RE: Robert Downey Jr. Talks Avengers
Well, Giant Man was a founding Avenger, and the Ultimates featured a squad of soldiers who used Pym's Giant Man formula.   Also, Thor's hometown is Asgard, not Valhalla. More

Posted by King Solomons Frog at 10:23 on 26 November 2008 | Report This Post

Seems
like a fairly throw-away comment to be honest. Cap is big. More

Posted by sowasred2012 at 10:12 on 26 November 2008 | Report This Post

Downey was just referring to how Rogers was a weedy kid before he was injected with the serum. But I do hope Edgar Wright gets Ant-Man done so his character will be in The Avengers. More

Posted by doctorolorinbats1975 at 09:51 on 26 November 2008 | Report This Post

Would it actually be a bad thing ...
... if superhero movies went away? More

Posted by Nicky C at 09:21 on 26 November 2008 | Report This Post

Got to just point out...
....that in any comic book you look at Cap is fairly supersized in the beefcake department. Well, in comparison to me he is- perhaps the Empire staff are all 6'3" lumps of muscle....?!? More

Posted by drawmyfoot at 08:41 on 26 November 2008 | Report This Post

i hope to God it doesn't turn out to be a bad film, but it will kill superhero films if it does. More

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