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Two-Face Won't Be Back For Batman 3
Says Harvey Dent himself, Aaron Eckhart

04 September 2008  |  Written by Chris Hewitt  |  Source: Coming Soon

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You know, if somehow – somehow, we don’t know how – you haven’t seen The Dark Knight yet, then we have two things to say to you: don’t go any further, for here be spoilers. And what the hell are you doing? Go see it! Now!

Have they gone? Good.

Right, for those of you who have seen it, there appears to have been some kind of debate over the fate of Harvey Dent at the end of the movie, with some mischievous fanboys refusing to accept that the Gotham DA is dead. All this despite the following:

• We see his corpse. It’s not moving. Or breathing. So it's a corpse.
• We see his funeral. Funerals tend to be held when people are dead.
The Dark Knight script, which is now online if you know where to look, states, quite categorically, that Dent is dead. Finished. Kaput. He’s shuffled off the mortal coil. He’s run down the curtain and joined the bleedin’ choir invisible. He is an ex-Two-Face.

But still the conspiracy theories keep coming… about how Dent’s ‘death’ is a smokescreen. How he’ll come back in the third Batman film and wreak merry havoc. But that’s not going to happen. Officially. Sez who? Sez Aaron Eckhart, the guy who played Dent, that’s who. And if anyone should know, it’s him.

“He is dead as a door nail,” Eckhart told Coming Soon, while unwittingly contining our Monty Python’s Dead Parrot Sketch theme. “I asked Chris [Nolan] that question and he goes, "You're dead" before I could even get the question out of my mouth. "Hey Chris, am I?" "You're dead!" Alright, cool.”

So that settles it. Two-Face is now strictly in the past tense. Which is ballsy, but then again, Nolan did kill off Ra’s Al Ghul in Batman Begins, so he clearly cares not a jot for keeping bad guys alive.

But all this continues to beg the question: if – and when – he returns to the Batfold, who will be the bad guy, or guys? Yes, it probably will be The Riddler and Catwoman, but our respect for Nolan, which is already pretty damn high, would rocket further if he could find a way to bring back Arnie as Mr. Freeze.

Now that would be awesome. Bat-awesome.

To read more from Eckhart on the Dark Knight experience, click here.


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for Hush. ould'nt make much sense in the Nolan universe unless reconned a bit. Just another manipulative criminal mastermind. More

Posted by Mr Terrific at 17:21 on 03 January 2009 | Report This Post

RE: Continue with Joker
I vote for Hush. More

Posted by Biggus at 17:07 on 03 January 2009 | Report This Post

RE: The Riddler
I think people seem to be missing the possibility that a 3rd movie was planned from the outset. The ending of TDK appeared, to me at least, to be setting the scene for a 3rd film. The ambiguity over wether 2Face is dead or not, what happened to The Joker, Batman excepting his lot as a villainous figure (very un-Hollywood if that really is the end of the story). So, yeah...I think a threequel was telegraphed. But then Ledger died. Yeah, they could re-cast, but after the incredibl More

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RE: The Riddler
It was obvious wasn't it? Nolan's Batman is grounded in reality. If someone (Two Face) falls down without protection and cracks his head open, he ain't coming back. More

Posted by cenaris at 14:44 on 03 January 2009 | Report This Post

RE: Batman 3
-Face is dead, or should be if the end of TDK is to retain any emotional impact whatsoever. A qualifier to 'Batman never kills' should be '...unless it's a choice between the villain and an innocent'. Given he had been shot, desperately lunging at Dent was perhaps the only choice he had. Plus, the whole point of the finale is to convey just how hard it is to have such absolute mantras like not killing in such a complex world. ood point..I think Nolan does make the point in Batman Begins also wi More

Posted by Mr Terrific at 21:48 on 02 January 2009 | Report This Post

RE: Batman 3
Unless Nolan radically changes the Riddler (which I expect he would) he's not a good enough villain to be the main one, unless the film (like begins) focuses much more on batman again. And Two-Face is dead, or should be if the end of TDK is to retain any emotional impact whatsoever. A qualifier to 'Batman never kills' should be '...unless it's a choice between the villain and an innocent'. Given he had been shot, desperately lunging at Dent was perhaps the only choice he had. Plus, the who More

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RE: Batman 3
L: KeithM L: Mr Terrific ... I am sure Nolan wants some new ideas...and explore new territory. second that. Please - no Riddler, Penguin, Catwoman, Mr. Freeze or any of the other villains we've already seen in Movies or on TV already (unless as secondary characters perhaps).  Something different - at least for the screen - is needed.  They don't need to use the same old rogues gallery to 'sell' the audience now - they can be bold and continue to break new gro More

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RE: Batman 3
L: Mr Terrific ... I am sure Nolan wants some new ideas...and explore new territory. second that. Please - no Riddler, Penguin, Catwoman, Mr. Freeze or any of the other villains we've already seen in Movies or on TV already (unless as secondary characters perhaps).  Something different - at least for the screen - is needed.  They don't need to use the same old rogues gallery to 'sell' the audience now - they can be bold and continue to break new ground with Batman More

Posted by KeithM at 19:16 on 02 January 2009 | Report This Post

RE: Batman 3
es me off the way people keep saying how close in chracter The Joker and The Riddler are, they are fundamentally different personalities and approaches to how they operate, completely different. Joker - psychotic, bold, impulsive, sociopath Riddler - awkard socially, anal, control freak, loner I rst my case. Batman solving challenges set by criminal mastermind? Been done mate in TDK. I am sure Nolan wants some new ideas...and explore new territory. More

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RE: Batman 3
i hope the riddler is the next villain(david tennant would be cool) two face is done whats left in his character even if he lived More

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RE: Batman 3
es me off the way people keep saying how close in chracter The Joker and The Riddler are, they are fundamentally different personalities and approaches to how they operate, completely different.t="trebuchet ms"] psychotic, bold, impulsive, sociopatht="trebuchet ms"] - awkard socially, anal, control freak, lonert="trebuchet ms"] y case. More

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believe people want Catwoman in the next film... e too. Why not some version of Huntress? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huntress_(Helena_Bertinelli) More

Posted by Mr Terrific at 16:29 on 30 December 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Batman 3
First off: they better not call it The Dark Knight Returns. Why not just steal a good-sounding title from one of the graphic novels like The Long Halloween etc. Secondly: the riddler is way too much like the joker to be a stand-alone villain.  I would personally make it so that it was a conflict between two combatting super-villains, eg. Penguin vs. Riddler with the Battyboy caught up in the middle.also doing one about a lesser-known villain would be cool Thirdly: rumours of Catw More

Posted by Moviehater at 15:59 on 30 December 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Continue with Joker
L: Paxton I love that Nolan is killing off villains rather than dragging the arcs out over multiple sequels. Fundementally, the reason for this would appear to be the difference in format: It is much more feasible to plan out a villain arc over the course of several years and several dozen issues of a comic book, as you have a certain guarantee of continuing readership, which is i] the case for film. Not even k Knightdly, people only have to wait a month between fixes. Thirdly, wi More

Posted by Paxton at 01:26 on 30 December 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Continue with Joker
I love that Nolan is killing off villains rather than dragging the arcs out over multiple sequels. Fundementally, the reason for this would appear to be the difference in format: It is much more feasible to plan out a villain arc over the course of several years and several dozen issues of a comic book, as you have a certain guarantee of continuing readership, which is i] the case for film. Not even k Knightdly, people only have to wait a month between fixes. Thirdly, with an issue coming More

Posted by Paxton at 16:36 on 29 December 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Continue with Joker
I say bring back Dirk Richtor, kids will wanna see the original Radioactive Man. More

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RE: Continue with Joker
Good... Two Face was the most boring, unnecessary thing about Dark Knight... and Catwoman is dreadful.  Another dull character who will take what little realistic gritty edge there is out of the franchise and stomp it into ludicrous, unbelievable villain shit.  No thanks on the whole Catwoman thing.  Or maybe Joker just set the bar too hgh in terms of potential villains. More

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RE: Continue with Joker
Did i just hear somewhere that Eddie Murphy had been lined up tp play Riddler in 3rd movie? More

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RE: Plothole?
Isn't it supposed to be ambiguous? Dent's death makes more sense in the context of the film - Batman taking the blame for Dent's murders and protecting his reputation means nothing if it turns out he's still alive after all, and he only killed Two-Face to stop Gordon's son dying (we know from Batman Begins that he already has a hazy definition of what it actually means to kill someone if he's prepared to let a man fall to his death). However it doesn't sound like Nolan knows if he's going More

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RE: Plothole?
L: okayeoiny The whole buzz with this movie is that "batman dosent kill people" - he even rescued the joker from a fatal fall off a high building - yet he killed harvey dent, his mate?! seeing as it was a low roof (about the same size as the one he threw maroni off) - I just presumed dent was alive, maybe smuggled off somewhere for rehab / surgery or something, and that he'd make a return if there ever was a 3rd. The "funeral" was just to "keep the peace" - not let anyone find out wh More

Posted by Workshed at 17:46 on 16 September 2008 | Report This Post

Plothole?
The whole buzz with this movie is that "batman dosent kill people" - he even rescued the joker from a fatal fall off a high building - yet he killed harvey dent, his mate?! seeing as it was a low roof (about the same size as the one he threw maroni off) - I just presumed dent was alive, maybe smuggled off somewhere for rehab / surgery or something, and that he'd make a return if there ever was a 3rd.   The "funeral" was just to "keep the peace" - not let anyone find out what he did, o More

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RE: Ballsy? I thought this was Empire?
I can't believe people want Catwoman in the next film... More

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RE: Ballsy? I thought this was Empire?
*Double Post. Sorry cant seem to delete at the moment.* More

Posted by Hex at 21:15 on 07 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Ballsy? I thought this was Empire?
I cant believe Two Face isnt coming back. I thought that was the set up. I mean he was only actually "Two Face" for like a day in the film, thats hardly enough of a story for him. It doesnt seem fair for him to go through all that then not get a few more cracks at killing Batman.   Quite disappointed. And I dont even like Aaron Eckhart! More

Posted by Hex at 21:15 on 07 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Ballsy? I thought this was Empire?
L: Drew_231 Does anybody here honestly believe that The Dark Knight can be bettered?  Likewise, is any villian going to top Ledgers Joker? A 3rd Bat film will only be a dissapointment, whats wrong with leaving it at two perfect films? ow that's not the right sort of attitude now is it? More

Posted by Ghost Mutt at 21:07 on 07 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Fantasy Batman 3: Casting...
I'd say IF it was Catwoman, I'd go for Eva Green, maybe, and have her not all back-flippy but wearing a type of cossy like her current comic version, leather jump suit with all pockets, pouches and a rucksack, a crash helmet with goggles and the claws a more bulky device for scalling walls. More Mission Impossible than S&M. The cat ears on the hemet could be a way of mocking Batman or so the silhouette looks like him on the roof as a distraction for the public. The papers could call her "Catwom More

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t be possible that there were plans to bring back Two-Face for part 3 but the death of Heath Ledger lead to a change in direction? Maybe Nolan was planning a trilogy but felt that better to wrap it up as a 2-parter, thus ruling out a return for Dent? More

Posted by Darth Goonie at 12:17 on 06 September 2008 | Report This Post

On the actual article itself, I personally think it would be great to bring back Two-Face (even though i can not possibly think how Nolan would do it). Just because he is such a great villian and should be given another film just to show how great he is! Plus I gotta see that messed up face in action again - having a proper full on battle with batman. More

Posted by robbo9 at 19:34 on 05 September 2008 | Report This Post

I don't think it's possible to make Mr. Freeze realistic. Riddler (smart nutcase) and Catwoman (as an opposite of Batman) more likely. Nolan doesn't kill all badguys by the way: Cillian Murphy stayed alive both times. More

Posted by Bluehawk at 19:17 on 05 September 2008 | Report This Post

Forget Robin
Forget Robin, Catwoman, the riddle and penguin. They most interesting story for Nolan to take up it the Knighfall story read here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Batman:_Knightfall#Knightf all Supervillain Bane releases the Arkham nuts and lets Batman run hhimself ragged trying to catch them. When weakened he breaks Batmans back and leaves him for dead. Batman takes on an apprentice Jean Paul Valley while he recovers. Valley is a mentally scarred character who take the Bat to the wrong si More

Posted by apeinflames at 16:52 on 05 September 2008 | Report This Post

Fantasy Batman 3: Casting...
There have been some top suggestions for potential villian/additional heroes castings for Batman 3, my favorites including Riddler: Sam Rockwell or John Manlkovic, Peguin: Timothy Spall or and Hitman: Paddy Constatine. Any ideas for Catwoman or Nightwing/Robin? I'd go Nightwing James Franco or Ben Winshaw and Catwoman Kiera Knightly... only kiddin...Carla Guingo was a decent one, I kinda like to see Emily Blunt in the role (though a hypothetical Poison Ivy would probably be better suited!) More

Posted by bronco3114 at 10:57 on 05 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: WTF?!
Batman was wearing a $300,000 body suit designed to withstand impact and stop bullets etc i.e. Why he can jump several stories off a multistroy parking structure crushing the roof of a van without shattering his legs... More

Posted by bronco3114 at 10:31 on 05 September 2008 | Report This Post

THANKS FOR THE SPOLIER WARNING
for those that havent seen it (All 2 of you) More

Posted by Deeznutz at 20:33 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Wow...
i think the could recast the joker.   go watch the lookout and tell me that joseph gordon levitt wouldnt make good joker.   also i think that the mad hatter or the gangster guy with the dummy would make a good villian. but the one thats crying out to be done properly is without a doubt BANE - ( the man who broke the bats back!!!!)but the revenge mission is a bit to cliché. i would like to see the talia al ghul character talia al ghul = jennifer connolly or monica bel More

Posted by TheDuffMan at 19:53 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

Wow...
There are far too many people who think I'm serious about Arnie. Guys, it's a joke. A joke. Calm down, nothing to see here. More

Posted by Chris Hewitt at 18:50 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Ra's Al Ghul
L: Ste7enForever L: Rumbaabaa L: Ste7enForever L: Rumbaabaa L: Ste7enForever L: Frank Castle L: jimoakley666 L: Spookygeek101 Isn't necessarily dead. In the comics he uses 'Lazarus Pits' to resurrect himself, so he could easily return to the franchise. eah, that won't make it into the common sense real world of the Nolans (ha). Hence the ninja chicanery in Begins... Hmm can people stop saying real world with this? k night took all realism away More

Posted by jimoakley666 at 18:22 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Ra's Al Ghul
L: Frank Castle L: jimoakley666 L: Spookygeek101 Isn't necessarily dead. In the comics he uses 'Lazarus Pits' to resurrect himself, so he could easily return to the franchise. eah, that won't make it into the common sense real world of the Nolans (ha). Hence the ninja chicanery in Begins... Hmm can people stop saying real world with this? the dark night took all realism away that begins started. eally? How so? The City was the first time I'd ever seem Gotham presente More

Posted by jimoakley666 at 18:12 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

PS for those not sensing it, that was sarcasm at it's lowest. More

Posted by Kev@CTU at 17:53 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

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Two-Face Won't Be Back For Batman 3??? Empire! you disgust me, this will be batman 7 surely?! you mean to say everyone is ignoring the classic batman and robin? (and those before it?) More

Posted by Kev@CTU at 17:53 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

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You know, the erm..Nolans could..like, be a bit daring and like erm.... a new villan. K FOR COVER!!!) More

Posted by Spaldron at 17:20 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

This whole "dead/not dead" business is ignoring the beauty of the ambiguity, which is something Nolan is following from the comics. Within his narrative, Dent is the tragic hero so he is dead, but Nolan also left it open for future filmmakers to explore the character (good = Nolan's Two-Face was brilliant but a unique interpretation, he didn't have the split personality). More

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RE: Anthony Hopkins
I'd like Penguin, Catwoman and/or Poison Ivy. More

Posted by Rumbaabaa at 15:31 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

Anthony Hopkins
Should play the penguin if anyone. More

Posted by ChrisWilmshurst at 14:53 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Ra's Al Ghul
L: Rumbaabaa L: Ste7enForever L: Rumbaabaa L: Ste7enForever L: Frank Castle L: jimoakley666 L: Spookygeek101 Isn't necessarily dead. In the comics he uses 'Lazarus Pits' to resurrect himself, so he could easily return to the franchise. eah, that won't make it into the common sense real world of the Nolans (ha). Hence the ninja chicanery in Begins... Hmm can people stop saying real world with this? k night took all realism away that begins starteduote] More

Posted by Ste7enForever at 14:53 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE:
L: Samuelpoet Its good that Two Face won't be making a come back, when was the funeral for Harvey Dent? Did I miss that??? Or was it after the credits rolled, either way which ever villian they decide on, I doubt it will be played by anyone super famous like Depp for example... but if we're talking casting The Riddler, I would have to put my vote to Paul Bettany. Catwoman, Rachel Weisz... Killer Croc... hmmm not sure about that one, though to memory wasn't he the one responsible for killin More

Posted by norman365 at 14:53 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Ra's Al Ghul
L: Ste7enForever L: Rumbaabaa L: Ste7enForever L: Frank Castle L: jimoakley666 L: Spookygeek101 Isn't necessarily dead. In the comics he uses 'Lazarus Pits' to resurrect himself, so he could easily return to the franchise. eah, that won't make it into the common sense real world of the Nolans (ha). Hence the ninja chicanery in Begins... Hmm can people stop saying real world with this? k night took all realism away that begins starteduote] How so!? More

Posted by Rumbaabaa at 14:48 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

yeh, i think alot of people were hoping dent wasn't dead simply because we hate it when villians are just killed off (as it seems to happen in most super hero movies) and the funeral could very well have been a cover up to protect his life. It was left a little vague, but its a shame. At least with Ra's he could come back (anyone who reads the comics will back me up on this) And no, don't recast Joker, Ledger did a fantastic job and anyone who tried to carry on would more than likely fail. More

Posted by clarkkent at 14:28 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Ra's Al Ghul
L: Rumbaabaa L: Ste7enForever L: Frank Castle L: jimoakley666 L: Spookygeek101 Isn't necessarily dead. In the comics he uses 'Lazarus Pits' to resurrect himself, so he could easily return to the franchise. eah, that won't make it into the common sense real world of the Nolans (ha). Hence the ninja chicanery in Begins... Hmm can people stop saying real world with this? k night took all realism away that begins starteduote] How so!? here's also the ma More

Posted by Ste7enForever at 14:15 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Continue with Joker
I think they should call the next film The Dark Knight Returns... influenced in part by the graphic novel.. Pick up the story a few years after TDK - Batman has 'left' Gotham - leaving the city in turmoil. Have lots of gangs like in TDKR graphic novel - a group of 'Jokers', like in Batman Beyond - loads of Batman immitators. The city gets to breaking point... forcing Batman back into action. The theme being... you can't just start something like this and walk away, expecting ever More

Posted by jon5000 at 14:00 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Continue with Joker
L: rancorpuppet The first convincing CGI human actor could conceivably be a Joker appearance in the next Batman movie. nd would be more than a little tasteless. More

Posted by sowasred2012 at 13:58 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Continue with Joker
The first convincing CGI human actor could conceivably be a Joker appearance in the next Batman movie. More

Posted by rancorpuppet at 13:57 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Continue with Joker
L: pointerjames And as far as recasting him, everyone would obviously compare him to Heath ledeger, but dont forget everyone was going to compare Heath Ledger to Jack Nicholson. sp; The difference being that Ledger gave an iconic performance, Nicholson merely a camp one. More

Posted by tftrman at 13:45 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

Continue with Joker
Why can't the joker be in the next film?   They could either recast him a la Rachel Dawes, or they could have someone else pick up the joker mask now that he is in prison.   And as far as recasting him, everyone would obviously compare him to Heath ledeger, but dont forget everyone was going to compare Heath Ledger to Jack Nicholson.   Personally I think rather than have Depp as Riddler, Depp could actually do the Joker quite well....    Also the s More

Posted by pointerjames at 13:41 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Mad Hatter - Penguin
Dunno would I like Hoskins but the Mad Hatter could be brilliantly disturbing. How about more Scarecrow too? Murphy rocks the shit as him and I think he'd totally work as a major villian. The hastily thrown together ending of Begins didn't do the character or performance justice More

Posted by shanewire at 13:36 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

Mad Hatter - Penguin
The best idea I saw anywhere was the idea of a real nasty mob-boss portrayal of the Penguin played by Bob Hoskins - I can't get that idea out of my head. I also think that the Mad Hatter could work if all the gimmick hats were taken away and he was played like he's presented in the 'Arkham Asylum' graphic novel as some kind of deranged serial killing pedophile with obsession for the Alice stories; twisted and sick :) More

Posted by Mooncalf at 13:31 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

First off...
of coarse Two Face is dead. He would never have worked as a stand-alone villian in 3. It was Dent on a mission to punish the people resposible for Rachel's death. When this was done, there was no use in having him stick around. It would be wrong to have the character decide to start killing people uninvolved in her murder. I would have prefered he went to Arkham though then die though. Also, heard some casting suggestions. Sam Rockwell as the Riddler would rule and Carla Gugino as Catwoman woul More

Posted by shanewire at 13:30 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

First off...
of coarse Two Face is dead. He would never have worked as a stand-alone villian in 3. It was Dent on a mission to punish the people resposible for Rachel's death. When this was done, there was no use in having him stick around. It would be wrong to have the character decide to start killing people uninvolved in her murder. I would have prefered he went to Arkham though then die though. Also, heard some casting suggestions. Sam Rockwell as the Riddler would rule and Carla Gugino as Catwoman... Pr More

Posted by shanewire at 13:29 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: The Riddler
L: DocEmmettBrown On the subject of Two-Face I did think it was an odd choice to create him then kill him off so soon. sp; People should stop seeing TDK as a two face origin story-it's a Harvey Dent story that climaxes with his corruption into two-face and ultimately his death. Yes, he's a major villain in the comics but these films aren't following the comics closely. More

Posted by tftrman at 13:23 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Ra's Al Ghul
L: Ste7enForever L: Frank Castle L: jimoakley666 L: Spookygeek101 Isn't necessarily dead. In the comics he uses 'Lazarus Pits' to resurrect himself, so he could easily return to the franchise. eah, that won't make it into the common sense real world of the Nolans (ha). Hence the ninja chicanery in Begins... Hmm can people stop saying real world with this? k night took all realism away that begins starteduote] How so!? part from the silliness of the plot More

Posted by Rumbaabaa at 13:20 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

Arnie as Mr Freeze – Don't make me laugh!!!
Arnie was so wrong as Mr Freeze. Wrong physique, wrong suit etc, etc. The tragic Mr Freeze is upper middle-aged, slim, super-intelligent and bald. He not Austrian and muscular. See the Animated Batman series from 1992. We want real actors in these films, not cardboard cut-outs!!! As for the Riddler, he's the exact opposite of Jim Carrey in Batman Forever and is another older character. Also, I'd definitely like to see Two-Face again, as I thought he was much better than the hyped Joker portrayal More

Posted by batfunk at 13:09 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

not to be a pain in the arse or anything but in the film your arguments are flawed • We see his corpse. It’s not moving. Or breathing. So it's a corpse. we also see gordon shot and not breathing or moving and he turns out to be alive. • We see his funeral. Funerals tend to be held when people are dead. i dont remember a funeral!?!?!?!? The Dark Knight script, which is now online if you know where to look, states, quite categorically, that Dent is dead. Finished. More

Posted by TheDuffMan at 13:08 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: The Riddler
L: DocEmmettBrown I reckon Sam Rockwell would make a storming Riddler. On the subject of Two-Face I did think it was an odd choice to create him then kill him off so soon. sp; Rockwell , yeah , if you want to go manic like the Joker - Rockwell was a name i mentioned  for Joker before Ledger got the Joker gig - , but id like to see a brooding ready to explode geeky type that could be done by Paul Dano . More

Posted by Beno at 13:08 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Ra's Al Ghul
L: Frank Castle L: jimoakley666 L: Spookygeek101 Isn't necessarily dead. In the comics he uses 'Lazarus Pits' to resurrect himself, so he could easily return to the franchise. eah, that won't make it into the common sense real world of the Nolans (ha). Hence the ninja chicanery in Begins... Hmm can people stop saying real world with this? k night took all realism away that begins starteduote]   How so!?     More

Posted by Ste7enForever at 13:03 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: WTF?!
L: auburnaubergine I'm pissed off, this has kind of ruined my opinion on the Dark Knight now to some extent. Having seen it four times, I kept a close eye on Mr Dent after he'd fallen off the building and you can see him breathing. Also, how can Batman survive the same fall?! WTF's up with that?! It feels like such a waist of time to see this hero become the villain for 2 minutes just for him to die at the end! Christor Nolan, you have gone down in my estimations! sp; Nolan should have More

Posted by grucl at 13:02 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

Bit leftfield but..........
What about some kind of tie in with Lex Luthor? I know it has been mentioned before but I really do think it could work. Just make sure its not Kevin "Dog walker" Spacey tho. More

Posted by bigmurds at 12:59 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Ra's Al Ghul
L: jimoakley666 L: Spookygeek101 Isn't necessarily dead. In the comics he uses 'Lazarus Pits' to resurrect himself, so he could easily return to the franchise. eah, that won't make it into the common sense real world of the Nolans (ha). Hence the ninja chicanery in Begins... sp; Hmm can people stop saying real world with this? the dark night took all realism away that begins started. More

Posted by Frank Castle at 12:59 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

PENGUIN
What about a primordial dwarf as the penguin. Or even that wee backwards talking dwarf from Twin peaks!! More

Posted by deltron3030 at 12:58 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: WTF?!
I'm not sure how they can top The Dark Knight, but certainly that's not a reason not to try. However, that being said, I really don't know who could be the villain. Catwoman? No thanks.... (although one of the other posters suggestions of Carla Gugino is spot on) Riddler? Nooooooooo! I just don't see who could be the villain. Bane, definitely not in Nolan's world, who else is there? Mad Hatter? Penguin? Scarface? None of them fit. Maybe they could incorporate the John Paul valley storyline with More

Posted by hobx at 12:56 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: WTF?!
L: auburnaubergine I'm pissed off, this has kind of ruined my opinion on the Dark Knight now to some extent. Having seen it four times, a close eye on Mr Dent after he'd fallen off the building and you can see him breathing how can Batman survive the same fall?! WTF's up with that?! It feels like such a waist of time to see this hero become the villain for 2 minutes just for him to die at the end! Christor Nolan, you have gone down in my estimations! Now THATS a fanboy.... More

Posted by Ste7enForever at 12:55 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

PENGUIN
What about a primordial dwarf as the penguin. Or even that wee backwards talking dwarf from Twin peaks!! More

Posted by deltron3030 at 12:54 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: I love Fanboys......
Why is liking a film and wanting to discuss it automatically make you a fanboy? P.S For the record I hate those fucking Citizen Kane fanboys.... More

Posted by Ste7enForever at 12:53 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

WTF?!
I'm pissed off, this has kind of ruined my opinion on the Dark Knight now to some extent. Having seen it four times, I kept a close eye on Mr Dent after he'd fallen off the building and you can see him breathing. Also, how can Batman survive the same fall?! WTF's up with that?! It feels like such a waist of time to see this hero become the villain for 2 minutes just for him to die at the end! Christor Nolan, you have gone down in my estimations! More

Posted by auburnaubergine at 12:51 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

That clears that up.... do hope they make a third movie More

Posted by Ace Rothstein at 12:51 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

That clears that up.... do hope they make a third movie More

Posted by Ace Rothstein at 12:50 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

That clears that up.... do hope they make a third movie More

Posted by Ace Rothstein at 12:50 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: I love Fanboys......
L: TheMadFatChickKiller I fucking love the little bastards. On the one hand they fill up message boards with "How come Naomi Watts could stand at the top of the Empire State Builiding In King Kong and not get blown off by the wind" and then say "Ah, but Raj Ah Ghul could've got out of an exploding train" An. Exploding. Train. You have your cake and eat it and for that I fucking love you all. anted to point out that this cracked me up. More

Posted by sowasred2012 at 12:44 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

never give John Malkovich another role
He's America's Donald Sinden. So desparately wants to be taken seriously in his (direct quote "essays") of characters - at the same time he does Con-Air. More

Posted by TheMadFatChickKiller at 12:44 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

I love Fanboys......
I fucking love the little bastards. On the one hand they fill up message boards with "How come Naomi Watts could stand at the top of the Empire State Builiding In King Kong and not get blown off by the wind" and then say "Ah, but Raj Ah Ghul could've got out of an exploding train" An. Exploding. Train. You have your cake and eat it and for that I fucking love you all. More

Posted by TheMadFatChickKiller at 12:42 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

The Riddler
I reckon Sam Rockwell would make a storming Riddler. On the subject of Two-Face I did think it was an odd choice to create him then kill him off so soon. More

Posted by DocEmmettBrown at 12:41 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

Shame But I Knew That Anyway.
Gosh, I got well upset when Harvey Dent died and started crying. My mum told me if he might return in the third one but I knew that he wouldn't return anyway. It's a shame because Aaron Eckhart was a brilliant Two-Face and it would have been great that he would return with the Riddler. Johnny Depp is a perfect choice and now, the movie would be very interesting. More

Posted by joanna likes films at 12:29 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: The Riddler
Bit disappointed with this news. Was hoping TwoFace and The Riddler would be causing havoc in the 3rd. And please, no Johnny Depp as the Riddler. More

Posted by CORLEONE at 12:20 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

hell yeah
bringing back Arnie as Mr. freeze would kick ass, B&R is the most entertaining Batman film ever, I mean its beyond bad, but thats why it kicks so much ass! Meanwhile, in real life.... I would love to see Liam Neeson reprise his role as Raj, theres no proof that HE died, ok we saw Two Face go splat, but all we see of Raj is the outside of a train.... exploding. um yeah. imo the Riddler will be too like the joker, and unless Depp dies during filming (god forbid) everyone will be complainin More

Posted by Metal Gimp at 12:10 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

The Riddler
Anyone else thinking Depp playing the Riddler would be done too much like Ledger & Joker? So No thank you. Something different is needed, and Sowasred has convinced me Nightwing is a good idea. A major villain would still be required so Bats could "redeem" himself in the public eye though. As for Nolans realistic universe, the supersonic sonar radar mobile phone trick anyone? What tosh. More

Posted by Karl Crutchley at 12:01 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

Arrrghhh! Fresh characters required plz..
Why do folk keep banging on about using the obvious villains yet again ie. Riddler (my choice being Casey Affleck, Viggo Mortenson/Greg Kinnear btw) Catwoman and so forth. Surely it would be more intriguing to have characters not yet utilised such as Rupert Thorne (Brian Cox), Roland Daggett (Guy Pearce), Hugo Strange (Bill Murray), Black Mask (Joaquin Phoenix/Benecio Del Toro/Vincent Gallo) etc. Ras Al Ghul and Scarecrow were villains not used previously and look how well that turned out. Hell More

Posted by KlausKinski at 12:00 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Ballsy? I thought this was Empire?
Bring back Jim Carey! More

Posted by Spaldron at 11:54 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

I like the idea of Nightwing in the 3rd movie.
They already set up the idea of Batman inspiring other people to become vigilantes, why couldn't he inspire a guy who's actually *good* at it, and doesn't feel the need to dress like Batman? Then you'd have Bats getting all pissed off cos he's delusional enough to think he's the only one capable of washing the scum off the streets, and you'd also kinda be getting Robin in there too, just circumventing all the camp crap. On top of all that, Batman took the heat for those murders so, as far as oth More

Posted by sowasred2012 at 11:50 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Ballsy? I thought this was Empire?
L: Beno L: UTB Catwoman would be ] disappointing. The Riddler would be cool. But it has to be a fucked-up, Saw-esque Riddler (if you tone down the gore) I honestly can see both of the above being in the next movie . Catwoman cos now there is no Woman in the franchise and Riddler cos you need a strong Male baddie to do the real dirty stuff . nt to sound sexist or belittle Catwoman but thats probably how they would play itnd still keep the Joker , who would escape Arkham near More

Posted by Ste7enForever at 11:44 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Ballsy? I thought this was Empire?
L: UTB Catwoman would be ] disappointing. The Riddler would be cool. But it has to be a fucked-up, Saw-esque Riddler (if you tone down the gore) sp; I honestly can see both of the above being in the next movie . Catwoman cos now there is no Woman in the franchise and Riddler cos you need a strong Male baddie to do the real dirty stuff . Dont want to sound sexist or belittle Catwoman but thats probably how they would play it . Oh and still keep the Joker , who would escape Arkha More

Posted by Beno at 11:25 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Erm...please tell me
Wow, good good pick Malkovic for the Riddler... never thought of that one but it would definately work under the guidance of Nolan. Personally I'd like (and expect) It'll be Catwoman with the history between the two, I can imagine the tumultuous nature  of their love story (ala Alfred(s) and his loves from the Prestige) could be handled very well by the Nolans and the death of Rachel Daws would suggest a natural progression to that one. From left felid... Timothy Spall More

Posted by bronco3114 at 11:17 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Ra's Al Ghul
L: Spookygeek101 Isn't necessarily dead. In the comics he uses 'Lazarus Pits' to resurrect himself, so he could easily return to the franchise. eah, that won't make it into the common sense real world of the Nolans (ha). Hence the ninja chicanery in Begins... More

Posted by jimoakley666 at 10:27 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

Ra's Al Ghul
Isn't necessarily dead. In the comics he uses 'Lazarus Pits' to resurrect himself, so he could easily return to the franchise. More

Posted by Spookygeek101 at 10:21 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

But...
It's all well and good picking who you want to be in the "next" batman film. But the only people I want to see attached is the Nolan bros. Chris Nolan hasn't agreed to anything yet, and I seriously doubt he'll want to either. He's taken this particular project where he wanted to take it. He and his brother are hungry guys. Probably easily bored too. If he doesn't commit WB's new brief to some lesser director will be "do a Nolan" no doubt. And we all know what happened last ti More

Posted by stucoles at 10:08 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

Very good.
I didn't like it when they killed off the villains in the original series but here it makes sense as it did with Ra's. They (Wayne and Gordon) were protecting Harvey AND Gotham from what he became. If you had him alive and in Arkham it would've undone everything Dent, Rachel, Gordon and the Bat had struggled to do in the film and meant that Rachel's death and Dent's fate were all for nothing. The greater good, if you will. But then... Is he in a secret cell in Arkham??? Hmm.... Guy Pierce for R More

Posted by jimoakley666 at 10:08 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

Erm...please tell me
That you were joking about wanting Arnie "The Governator" to reprise his role as Mr Freeze!! It was bad enough seeing him in Batman & Robin but not a good idea Empire! Bad Empire, bad!! Shame Two Face wont be in the 3rd film from Nolan. But I would love to see who would play Catwoman. My thoughts on The Riddler though, I still think John Malkowich could do a very good job. More

Posted by Noelg25 at 09:49 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Ballsy? I thought this was Empire?
I really hope Johnny Depp isn't The Riddler... More

Posted by Bickle at 09:47 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Ballsy? I thought this was Empire?
L: Drew_231 Does anybody here honestly believe that The Dark Knight can be bettered?  Likewise, is any villian going to top the Ledgers Joker? A 3rd Bat film will only be a dissapointment, whats wrong with leaving it at two perfect films? sp; I totally agree, but with the money TDK has made there will be a 3rd film and I'll go out on a limb here-with or without Nolan, it's going to get made. More

Posted by tftrman at 09:33 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Ballsy? I thought this was Empire?
Because its a franchise??? and its certainly not a perfect 2 films! I third can improve on both of em but its gonna be difficult as both batman and dark night are great films.   Are people taking the interview serious?? Eckhart could def reappear dispite what he says. I think its just a big hoax to put people of track. Just because he's not contracted yet doesnt mean he wont ever do it. We need two face in the next one otherwise it would just be a blink and miss cameo and a w More

Posted by Frank Castle at 09:33 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Ballsy? I thought this was Empire?
Catwoman would be ] disappointing. The Riddler would be cool. But it has to be a fucked-up, Saw-esque Riddler (if you tone down the gore) More

Posted by UTB at 09:30 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

See this was the problem with Tim Burton's versions, he was killing off the best villains (Joker, Penguin). Poor old Harvey Dent has been killed off twice now! Couldn't see the point then and can't now. The super villains are just as immortal as the heroes. Long live Two Face! More

Posted by steveg66 at 09:29 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

Its good that Two Face won't be making a come back, when was the funeral for Harvey Dent? Did I miss that??? Or was it after the credits rolled, either way which ever villian they decide on, I doubt it will be played by anyone super famous like Depp for example... but if we're talking casting The Riddler, I would have to put my vote to Paul Bettany. Catwoman, Rachel Weisz... Killer Croc... hmmm not sure about that one, though to memory wasn't he the one responsible for killing the original Robin More

Posted by Samuelpoet at 09:29 on 04 September 2008 | Report This Post

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