|It looks fucking awful, the first one was bad and somehow this looks even worse! Why is he spinning from a chandelier? It looks cheap and nasty hopefully in about 10 years time someone will come along and do Frank Castle justice! More|
Posted by ImDaveBensonPhillips at 17:48 on 25 June 2008 | Report This Post
| RE: Crap|
| My word this looks awful, just awful.
Question, is the original movie really that bad or should I give it a bash??
] I hadn't realised there was a Dolph Lundgren starring original floating around, I mean the Tom Jane one, though the Lundgren one is intriguing More|
Posted by Mr Underhill at 17:23 on 17 June 2008 | Report This Post
|That trailer hardly sells the film. The neon glow to the film gives it a cheap look reminicent of a poor 90's production and the bloke playing the punisher looks a tad (shall we say) scrawny for the part. Overall it look's like one of the pre Blade marvel films produced for pennies and usually making B movies look like Oscar winners. More|
Posted by sanchia at 12:50 on 16 June 2008 | Report This Post
|This should keep flies happy. looks like the biggest pile of shit ever! More|
Posted by Ash_G at 12:45 on 15 June 2008 | Report This Post
|In every way possible. I'm sure it'll be in the bargain bin at ASDA by the end of the year. More|
Posted by boredbluekoala at 23:30 on 14 June 2008 | Report This Post
|Actually, the letter Tom Jane wrote made it sound like he thought the sequel was a film he didn't believe in and therefore he wouldn't devote his time to it so I guess he did walk because the script was shit, although you are right that he did spend aaaages getting ready for the role before making that decision, apparently he spent all his time watching action and revenge movies as homework. Thats a cool job to have. More|
Posted by KingBigkerb at 21:18 on 14 June 2008 | Report This Post
|After two dodgy films, perhaps they should just accept that The Punisher isn't going to translate well to film? This new one doesn't look like bucking the trend either. More|
Posted by John Firth at 19:12 on 14 June 2008 | Report This Post
|And sweet baby Jesus too, this looks bloody awful More|
Posted by Tokkas100 at 18:46 on 14 June 2008 | Report This Post
|A few points..|
|I've been reading The Punisher graphic novels for a while now although mainly the MAX series which is the best by far. I just want to make a few points about this film and the graphic novels. 1, Jane didn;t leave because of a bad script, he kept himself fit for 2 years with produces saying that they were doing a sequel, then they weren't then there was nothing. There was an open letter about it aswell. 2. The chandalier I think we're all in agreement about that, it's shit. As other posters have More|
Posted by bigbadmatrixfan at 18:38 on 14 June 2008 | Report This Post
|Ray Stevenson!!! Yay!|
|Who the fuck is Ray Stevenson. Leave it alone, it looks pretty poor. I didn't think the Thomas Jane one was great but this is going back to Dolph Lundgren (or God help us, David Hasselhoff) territory. More|
Posted by evildave69 at 01:35 on 14 June 2008 | Report This Post
|Leave it alone!!|
|As much as I would love to see the perfect Punisher film I feel (as a comic Fan from issue 1) Hollywood will never get this one right.
Each film producer/ director/writer keep turning Frank into a Hero.. He's the un-hinged dark side of us all that instead of walking away from witnessing a crime (no matter how small), pulls out an Uzi and kills people.
In today’s politically correct world I'm sad to say Frank can only live in comic form. TBH it seems like this COULD be the worsted of the More|
Posted by msurrey at 00:52 on 14 June 2008 | Report This Post
|I'm a big, big Punisher fan when it comes to the comics and I'm also a big fan of the Tom Jane movie, I actually can't see why it had so many haters. I guess it probably should have been released about 15 years previous but oh well... Anyway, this new trailer looks like the film is going to be unbelievably bad. I like Ray Stevenson a lot but his accent was awful plus I couldn't work out what was going on with that weird armoured turtle neck. Strange...
I hope its good but I'd put money on More|
Posted by KingBigkerb at 23:19 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
| This could be unspeakably shit. All the action in the trailer is clearly from the same scene. What a load of tosh. More|
Posted by Eomer_King at 22:39 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|looks good enough to me. i can understand the cheese to it but its only a minute of the movie. Ray stevenson is a top quality actor and looks more like the punisher than thomas jane ever did.. hope its really good with the awesome supporting cast and more like batman begins than batman and robin(biggest pile of excrement ever). More|
Posted by b4r1 at 20:33 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|I don't care if people don't like me for it but i loved every film based on the punuisher and im loving the trailer for this one.
Ray stevenson was weird choice cos i didn't know who he is, but this fron the director of green street it had character and strong violence and this could be as good if not better im hoping the latter. More|
Posted by dave_0989 at 19:59 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|this was a bad idea... More|
Posted by fantasy89 at 18:45 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|If this is any good, I'll eat my own face More|
Posted by crimebusterofthesea at 17:45 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
| RE: won't be watching this.|
| Actually, Tom Jane was far to small a guy in hight ad stature to be the Punisher.
So. Not "end of".
Jane's Punisher was too bland, I thought. He acted like a drunk cowboy. I mean, what the hell was with the twitchy-fingered shoot out in the lobby? Frank Castle would just walk outta there not breaking his stride and just disintergrate the two grunts with a M16 or something as undramatic and to the point as that.
The drinking and moping about didn't was with me. Castle was always More|
Posted by jimoakley666 at 16:41 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
| RE: A Third Punisher!?|
| This isn't a Marvel studios film. It's one of the licenses sold by Marvel ages ago like Spiderman to Sony and X-men to Fox.
So this isn't going to be a part of the Avengers universe that Marvel are currently creating. Frank Castle isn't going to meet up with Bruce Banner or Tony Stark or anything like that.
As if the trailer wasn't enough of an indicator of it's quality. It's also been relagated to a December release. The last time that was done with a marvel film was Blade Trinit More|
Posted by BatFan at 16:19 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|A Third Punisher!?|
|I just don't see why they'd try to start this a third time? They could have put more life into the movie without ditchung Thomas Jane, who was very good in the 2nd Punisher Movie. That trailer is awful , and has poor old (dodgy acent) Ray making Dolph Lundgren's performance in the 1st Punisher look DeNiroesque!
oh dear, oh dear. Marvel remove your logo from this before it taints the goodwill built up in iron Man and Inredible Hulk.
We're getting to a stage where people will see the MARVEL More|
Posted by everton at 15:01 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|The Punisher never really did it for me as a character so i'm not too fussed.
But I will say that it looks better than the previous one, a movie that I thought wasn't as good as the Dolph Lundgren one. Now that's saying a lot.
I'll wait till DVD for this one! More|
Posted by Big Red at 14:56 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|Finally! A Punisher that looks the part! Lundgren was jus too oafish, Tom Jane looked like he exfoliated before he killed. And he sulked far too much, emo bastard. Stevenson looks unkempt and unhinged, like the classic 80's Romita-era Punisher we all loved. Like a man who lost his family and has nothing left to lose. The chanderlier thing is a bit naff and that killing god line...yeesh... but my hopes have just been raised that little bit. More|
Posted by dunkah at 14:33 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
| RE: Punisher: War Zone Trailer Online|
| e second incarnation in action"/i]
It's the third incarnation.
Posted by Mason Verger at 14:25 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
| No No No No No No|
| I really enjoyed the previous movie, but this looks appalling. Hanging from a chandelier & spinning? WTF It's the Punisher! He doesn't need to do stuff like that. He just shoots you in the head! & what's with all the neon? Looks like outtakes from Batman & Robin...
'Sometimes I'd like to get my hands on God' h, & the reason Tom Jane isn't returning is that he read the script, said 'This is shit' & when the producers refused to change it, he walked. Smart man! More|
Posted by BudBaxter at 14:11 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|Why,why, Hollywood, do you persist?|
|Who wants this? From the Punisher comics I know, you can just derive an ordinary action flic, skull or no skull. This trailer is worse than I feared. Bury this, it´s BALLACKS!!!! More|
Posted by Mr. Blume at 13:48 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|won't be watching this.|
|Thomas Jane is the punisher. End of. More|
Posted by tango fett at 13:42 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|Sigh! Where did it all go wrong. And jeez what a crap outfit. Ray stevenson was good in rome. But Thomas Jane he aint. More|
Posted by Flippyed at 13:36 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|new punisher? fantastic, but the new chap? not sure what was wrong with Tom Jane. ok, he was fairly good in Rome but the punisher is totally different. Think I'll wait for the DVD on this one. More|
Posted by dave404 at 13:36 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
| RE: For those of you who dont know who Ray is|
| This looks like a load of crap, This Ray guy, looks terrible, the outfit is shit, makes him look a bit wimpy to always be wearing body armour in his battles, Least with Thomas Jane, you he wore the T-Shirt, looked like a man gone mad with Revenge, just focusing on Howard Saint, and not caring if he got hurt in the process.
Plus Jane was convincing with the emotions, this new guy looks to have the emotions of a brick.
I am not gonna see this movie, it may well make Ghost R More|
Posted by councilskivvy at 13:22 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|For those of you who dont know who Ray is|
|go and buy Rome on DVD! More|
Posted by LOGANSRUN at 13:03 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|So why have they re-made The Crow then?|
|Any ideas? More|
Posted by mentat72 at 12:52 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|It looks pretty cheap to me - like your average B-movie.
I'm interested to know what the budget was, More|
Posted by Ivan_Drago at 12:42 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|Who is Ray Stevenson? Bring back Thomas Jane!!!!!!!!!!! I really enjoyed the previous Punisher movie. It was a lot of fun and not over the top even though they still managed some great action scenes. Damn shame they have made a shite sequel. More|
Posted by Gold Digger at 12:33 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|I'm loving this huge amount of first looks the last 2 days. Ben Button yester day and now this and Spike Lee's warmovie. The other 2 look pretty awesome, I'm going in sceptical here though. The chandelier was lame More|
Posted by shanewire at 12:05 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|Bring back Thomas jane!|
|This looks like crap and so does this Ray stevensen guy. More|
Posted by darth silas at 12:02 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
| Not Sure....|
| I liked Thomas Jane in the first Punisher, I thought it was a very good film. This trailer isnt ringing any bells as far as I'm concerned. I'll probably wait till DVD for this one. More|
Posted by somara1972 at 11:56 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|Now, I quite liked parts of Tom Janes Punisher movie but thought it was a bit tame. I loved the idea of Ray Stevenson as Frank. He looks more the part than good ol' Tom Jane ever could. Stevenson looks just like a cross between Steve Dillon's drawing of the Punisher and that of current penciler Goran Parlov
But. What the hell is up with all the neon? Let's hope it's more Blade Runner than Batman Forever. And I wont even jinx it by mentioning another certain Bat film. Shudder.
See. Punisher More|
Posted by jimoakley666 at 11:29 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|This looks pretty good, he was great in Outpost, nice to see a character actor in this tricky role. Looking forward to some old school shooting. Has anyone ever done a shootout suspended from a chandelier before? Del and Rodney doesn't count! More|
Posted by richithekiller at 11:15 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|Rat looked ok, dunno about that chandelierthough. More|
Posted by drake22 at 11:06 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|Shoot em up!|
|I too liked the first punisher movie....and there is nothing at all wrong with being a 'throw back' to the 80's. I agree thath it shouldn't be less than an 18 to fully glorify the violence on display....it is not supposed to be realistic people, it IS a comic book movie after all. I will reserve judgement on this one to see how much crappy CGI they stick in....you know, just cause they can rather than because they need to. I think it should have more the tone of Shoot em UP.....that has set the More|
Posted by jameslowe at 10:59 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
| RE: ????|
| Ok i think u can see im a massive punisher fan, just watched the trailer and im kinda hit or miss on it. It does look like the budget has been shrunk. It has a dtv feel to it? Im hoping this wont effect the quality of the action scenes to much.
But it does look like its gonna be a bit more darker than the tom jane effort. My prob with the jane effort is jane always looked a bit to cleancut to be the punisher? Ive always imagined the punisher to be a bigger guy who generally l More|
Posted by Frank Castle at 10:48 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|Looks like Hitman!!!!|
|I have to admit I was a fan of the tom jame punisher and felt it was severly under rated (watch it again, it is pretty good!!!) but this looks a bit too poo for me!!! Ray Stevenson just oes not look right & is he wearing turtle neck armour???? The real punisher would only need a t-shirt (joking fan-boys, I know Mr. Castle does wear bulletproofs.........sometimes!!!! I feel the trailer looks a bit Hitman to me and may lose out on the whole one - man army thing. also was it just me or did anyo More|
Posted by dragonINC at 10:46 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|Now, I liked the first Punisher movie and when they said that Thomas Jane wasn't the Punisher anymore, I was surpised to discover that Rome's Ray Stevenson will replace him. Now with a new trailer on board, it looks like gripping stuff. It's very dark, not a lot of light but there's plenty of action on board and hopefully this time it will be a success. More|
Posted by joanna likes films at 10:41 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|Why does everyone keep bashing the Thomas Jane Punisher? It were quite gid, this new one's gonna be a wait and see job. More|
Posted by mutecommunion at 10:15 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|this looks alot better than the last Punisher film. Although, as a fellow person from Belfast, i can't help but notice the slight twang in his American accent, so i can. More|
Posted by Hughezy at 10:13 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|I quite liked the previous Punisher flick, despite the obvious shortcomings, I thought Thomas Jane was perfect as Castle, he really nailed the look. Some of the action was good but the rest of it was disappointing.
As for the new trailer - it just didn't feel right to me. I think of a Punisher flick as being a one man against the mob, hyper violent, Paul Verhoeven style film. It can't be less than an 18. It needs to be violent, gritty, insightful....
...and thats not what I go from this trail More|
Posted by DDR at 09:50 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|Ray Stevenson rules|
|I'm plowing my way through Rome on DVD at the moment. Ray Stevenson is awesome in it. If anyone can pull off the Punisher (so to speak) he is your man. From the look of this trailer though, that might be a bit of an ask. More|
Posted by The_Hat at 09:49 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|Third incarnation I think!! More|
Posted by apemail at 09:45 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
| RE: Hmmmmm|
| The Punisher always looks cheap, like a marvel grindhouse, they should embrace that and release straight to DVD for £7, More|
Posted by badmartin at 09:39 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|The first one was bizarre, it was like a throw back to 80's. I couldn't give two squits about this... oh, and who the hell is Ray Stevenson? More|
Posted by chris wootton at 09:19 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
| Hard To Know|
| I've watched the trailer a few times and there are some bits i like. The look of the film and the obvious darkness of this look to be very well done. But there are other aspects that i'm just not convinced about yet. I'll need to see another trailer with a bit more meat in it to be convinced that Ray Stevenson can take over the role. personally i thought Tom Jane did a cracking job of the character in the last film but was let down by a lack lustre script and a piss poor nemesis in the form of More|
Posted by livewire at 09:12 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|At the moment.
Ask me again closer to December. More|
Posted by indysgill at 09:01 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|It looks like outtakes from the Crow stitched together with this lunk head in Tom Jane's pants. I rather liked the first film for all its faults but this just looks awful. I hope I'm wrong wrong wrong. I'll see when I buy it on dvd out of the bargain bin in 12 months time. More|
Posted by chriscoulthard at 08:53 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|its not too shabby More|
Posted by HoboCop at 08:37 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|I'd have liked to see Jane return...|
|...but this looks like a 'rent on DVD' movie. More|
Posted by jpt1976 at 08:24 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|Looks like a live action of a McBain movie from the Simpsons. More|
Posted by Duke Harrison at 08:16 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post
|Looks bad, very bad and sorry but Ray Stevenson doesnt look the part hopefully when its released i eat my hat and its a decent movie cause i love the marvel comic's and want to see it do well. More|
Posted by 25/m/nerd at 08:12 on 13 June 2008 | Report This Post