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Brett Ratner Talks Beverly Hills Cop 4
You may not like what he says...

04 June 2008  |  Written by Olly Richards  |  Source: MTV

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Now, before lighting your torches, sharpening your pitchforks and striding off toward the comments section, it's important to remember that isolated quotes can lose context. But, that said, Brett Ratner has been talking to MTV about Beverly Hills Cop 4, and what he has to say may not appease the worries of fans who question the existence of the sequel.

"We’re trying to revitalize the franchise. He was one of my favorite movie characters of all-time, Axel Foley, by far the coolest movie character,” Ratner told the site. “It’s an honor to be able to direct another Beverly Hills Cop film.”

That's all well and good. It's been many years since Foley hung up his gun, so it's entirely reasonable to want to make some tweaks, but it was his following comments that might provoke ire. Ratner plans to make the film PG.

"10-year-old kids, 12-year-old kids don’t really know the old Beverly Hills Cop. So it’s an opportunity to make it new for kids. The same way it felt for me watching Beverly Hills Cop when I was a kid, that’s what I want to do for kids today."

Now, 10-12 year olds shouldn't have been watching Beverly Hills Cop, because it was rated R in the US and 15 in the UK, as were the sequels. They had lots of swearing and shooting in them, which, in our opinion, are part and parcel of the Beverly Hills Cop experience. We understand that most of Eddie Murphy's audience now is in the pre-teen range, but very few of his films for that audience have been any good (Nutty Professor was fun).

PG-13 might seem to be the zone where this film can make the most money, but an R-rated sequel that actually took Murphy back to the kind of material that he works brilliantly with – and let's not forget that Murphy at his best is near untouchable – could serve everyone. The film isn't unsuited to Ratner, who does have slick talents that could work on a BHC film, so a film that aims for the tone of the first could do great things for Murphy and Ratner, as well as the studio and the seemingly forgotten people in this equation: Beverly Hills Cop fans.

Can you envisage a Beverly Hills Cop film for kids that can still be good?

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Ratner didn't ruin X-men. it's the fact that he had the work of aproximately 578 other directors before him with which to make the film. the fact that the film was even watchable. even releasable. I think was pretty good going by him. though fully agreed. Beverly Hills Cop for kids isn't Beverly Hills Cop at-all. it's... i dunno... i cant think of a kiddie equivlent to beverly hills cop right now. but not good. More

Posted by Adrian at 19:04 on 09 June 2008 | Report This Post

Brett Ratner might and I emphasise -might- make this work. He doesn't do himself any favours by spewing out verbal dysentry like "10-year-old kids, 12-year-old kids don’t really know the old Beverly Hills Cop." It sounds like something George Lucas would say if he were ever to one day stand up and shout "hey steven, i'm gonna make Back to the Future 4? okay?! is that okay? with CGI, and stuff that is -also- made out of CGI" My personal opinion, and of course its just More

Posted by jambobjam at 17:52 on 06 June 2008 | Report This Post

And another thing!
Isn't the "R" rating defined as "No person under 17 can watch this film without adult supervision"? Put in the swearing and action - kids can see it with their parents ("Son, this was how Eddie Murphy used to be...") More

Posted by themathemagician at 18:50 on 05 June 2008 | Report This Post

And another thing!
Isn't the "R" rating defined as "No person under 17 can watch this film without adult supervision"? Put in the swearing and action - kids can see it with their parents ("Son, this was how Eddie Murphy used to be...") More

Posted by themathemagician at 18:47 on 05 June 2008 | Report This Post

Things to do...
1. Put on the following DVDs: Delirious, Raw, Bowfinger, I Spy and the first and second BHCs. Bask in Eddie Murphy being good... 2. After remembering that wisecracking, foul mouthed tomfoolery was perfected by Murphy, stay in hope that the Studio might come to their senses. 3. Empire, stop being politically neutral, come out and say Ratner's an idiot. Is he not content with ruining the Lecter and X-Men franchise? (I liked Hannibal (!), so it's Red Dragon's fault, and X-Men 3 made me cry - More

Posted by themathemagician at 18:44 on 05 June 2008 | Report This Post

Things to do...
More

Posted by themathemagician at 18:41 on 05 June 2008 | Report This Post

You Funned my wife!?
haha muddy funster! :D the best dubbing for ITV was in Robocop when they used Maggot Farmer instead of mother fucker - genius soooo scary being called that More

Posted by Tosh at 13:57 on 05 June 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Brett Ratner Talks Beverly Hills Cop 4
Just a thought for everyone to think about before they decide to storm Hollywood, I'm fairly sure that the rating system in America works slightly differently than ours over here. An R rating in the US is just a glorified 12A, children under 17 must be accompanied by an adult if I remember correctly, and the fact that Ratner says that he wants kids of 12 and 13 to have the same experience that he had when he was 12 and 13 and the first one came out might not actually mean that he is p More

Posted by gja2677 at 13:07 on 05 June 2008 | Report This Post

CAN NOT WAIT
FOR A COP MOVIE WHERE A BLACK COP, GOE'S AROUND DOING A CRAP JOB, CRACKING CRAP JOKES!! , AND GOING ON ABOUT MJ, MAYBE THIS TIME RATNER SHOULD GIVE AXEL A PARTNER, MAYBE SOMEONE FROM ASIA, AND THEY HAVE TO SOLVE A DIPLOMATIC INCIDENT, THAT WOULD BE ORIGNAL FROM ALL THE CRAP HOLLYWOOD IS SPEWING OUT!!!!!!!!!........ More

Posted by stephenand at 12:59 on 05 June 2008 | Report This Post

The prohpecy is fulfilled
It's hard to get any more worked up about this uber-turd in the making. The fact that Ratner was going to make it all family friendly was pretty much a no brainer. Critics and old school Murphy fans will hate it but, that wont stop it going to No 1 in the US box office charts. More

Posted by Bushman at 12:35 on 05 June 2008 | Report This Post

Who the hell invented the concept of money? Bring me his mummified head please. Hollywood is running faster and faster towards the void where no good movies have seen the light of day. More

Posted by Metalion at 08:56 on 05 June 2008 | Report This Post

NO
NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!! Where's my gun ? More

Posted by Tim_Bisley at 08:40 on 05 June 2008 | Report This Post

I cannot believe this fat prick on legs. 10 to 12 years do not know about it because it was never aimed at them, it still fucking isn`t. But no, gotta make the money, gotta get the biggest demographic possibly, so gotta water it down to be a pale, fucking pale imitation of what it was. Well fuck em, fuck everyone involved More

Posted by ajpthomas at 05:53 on 05 June 2008 | Report This Post

Same thing that killed Die Hard 4. Stop making stuff that for...ye know, kids. More

Posted by Bluehawk at 00:42 on 05 June 2008 | Report This Post

KILL ME, KILL ME NOW................
What's he gonna do for a flippin encore? I hear the script for Basic Instinct 3 is ready for filming. More

Posted by boredbluekoala at 00:33 on 05 June 2008 | Report This Post

Oh it just gets worse. More

Posted by Eomer_King at 22:28 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

A Beverly Hills Cop film with no swearing. Take that, muddy funsters. More

Posted by John Firth at 22:16 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

Dear Brett Ratner
Leaving aside your CV which struggles to rise above mediocre at the best of times, please be aware that i ONLY wish to see a Beverly Hills Cop film containing the words 'fuck', 'motherfucker' and its derivatives thereof. More

Posted by khac6876 at 22:12 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

I can't believe it! Hes doing everything what made people mad about Die Hard when they heard it wasn't going to be an 18.The picture of him here is enough to make people wonder why Hollywood chose him for being the director. More

Posted by Ricorodrigeuz at 21:36 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

PLEASE NO MORE!!!!!!
Honestly, how many chances does Brett Ratner get??!! This guys sucks as a director... only surpassed in suckiness by Mark Johnson (who destroyed two great comic book characters) Who keeeps employing these guys??!!! There are way better directors around. Honestly: do they only charge minimum wage or something? More

Posted by evs at 21:23 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

PLEASE NO MORE!!!
More

Posted by evs at 21:21 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

The last film was shit and the 2nd one doesn't hold pretty well. The first one is a slice of 80's brilliance, Murphy was on fire and it was as funny as hell, BH2 was a tired retread lacking the charm of the original, less said about 3 the better. Now could things get worse? well yes they could Ratner now PG13, kiss this film goodbye. More

Posted by agent cooper at 19:50 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

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Posted by agent cooper at 19:49 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

THIS MAN SHOULD NOT DIRECT FILMS. NO FURTHER COMMENTS! More

Posted by stephenhickman2 at 19:42 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

Has anyone seen Holywood' balls lately!??
Its official, Hollywood has no balls. A PG-13 Axel Foley, for ten year olds. Which exec on a million a year came up with that? Do they not think that this would make more cash if they just aimed it at the 18-30 market, since ..er, thats who is going to want to watch it. This is Murphys signature role, he could be great again in it. Now they have stuck a banana up his tail pipe. Let the kids have it, give him a CGI squirrel sidekick..see if care. Bastards. Sniff. Sniff. More

Posted by Deacon Frost at 19:31 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

Well who'd have guessed that ? pfff.
I think we all knew this would be the case, Hollywood seems to be scared to make a big budget picture that is over the PG-13 12A rating. It's not that that necessarily will make it a bad film it's when the others in the series before it were hard edged thrillers/action films with adult themes and serious subject matters it kind of makes a mockery of the series. What they should do is change the name of character and title of the film maybe then we'd give it a chance. It's not like BHC3 was any More

Posted by durelius at 19:20 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

Pass me the gun, films are no fun…
It´s a horrible, horrible time for movies. Has there ever been a darker chapter for movie audiences in the history of film? They will make an insane amount of money, no matter if this film sucks big time or not, movie audiences are desperate enough to go see it, blinded by their emotions and memories. I myself have just had a traumatic nightmare: They made a fourth Indiana Jones picture with unfunny George Lucas goofy giddiness and a horrible, useless 20 minute introduction. When i woke up More

Posted by RoboMan24 at 18:48 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

why? there is no logical explanation! More

Posted by Daniel_House_Lost at 17:47 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

More honking bollocks from Ratner
A lousy PG-13 BHC film. Brilliant. I usually can't stand Ratner but thought this might be sort of his level (is certainly the type of material he could do okay with). But a de-balled and boring Axel Foley holds no interest for me whatsoever. I want to watch Eddie Murphy say f**k in a film again. Say it Eddie! SAY IT! More

Posted by lisamoorish at 17:15 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

Is that a a recent picture
If it is a recent picture of Ratner the years haven't been kind as he looks flabby and balding. Very different from a couple of years ago. Anyway. Pointless film but then pretty much everyone knows that. More

Posted by sanchia at 17:14 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

What do we think is coming next people?
I wanted to write something angry and witty but after Die Hard and Indy 4 Im just losing the will to scorn. Shall we place bets for the next old man actioner/films we loved that are now tainted revival?? Im betting on Lethal Weapon 5: Im too old for this twinkly stardust. More

Posted by Mikebly292 at 17:12 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

What do we think is coming next people?
I wanted to write something angry and witty but after Die Hard and Indy 4 Im just losing the will to scorn. Shall we place bets for the next old man actioner/films we loved that are now tainted revival?? Im betting on Lethal Weapon 5: Im too old for this twinkly stardust. More

Posted by Mikebly292 at 17:09 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

What do we think is coming next people?
I wanted to write something angry and witty but after Die Hard and Indy 4 Im just losing the will to scorn. Shall we place bets for the next old man actioner/films we loved that are now tainted revival?? Im betting on Lethal Weapon 5: Im too old for this twinkly stardust. More

Posted by Mikebly292 at 17:07 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

What do we think is coming next people?
I wanted to write something angry and witty but after Die Hard and Indy 4 Im just losing the will to scorn. Shall we place bets for the next old man actioner/films we loved that are now tainted revival?? Im betting on Lethal Weapon 5: Im too old for this twinkly stardust. More

Posted by Mikebly292 at 16:59 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

Lethal weapon 5!!!
I think a lethal weapon 5 would be a bad idea because a balding Mel Gibson & Creaking Danny Glover would not look good on screen no matter how good the script might be. Besides, Mel should stay away from the cameras since he went the way of the Cruise and made a right Pratt of himself in his private life. More

Posted by marlo at 16:51 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

RE: What do we think is coming next people?
awful news. i had some respect for ratner, rush hour 1 and 2 were wuite entertaining IMO, but 3 was predictable and pretty offensive in some places. X3 wasnt as good as i hoped but i had warmed up to it, conviincing myself studio pressure fucked it up. what the fuck does he think he is talking about? he has no clue. forget it, BHC is dead. More

Posted by kumar at 16:46 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

What do we think is coming next people?
I wanted to write something angry and witty but after Die Hard and Indy 4 Im just losing the will to scorn. Shall we place bets for the next old man actioner/films we loved that are now tainted revival?? Im betting on Lethal Weapon 5: Im too old for this twinkly stardust. More

Posted by Mikebly292 at 16:43 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

What a fucking pointless excersise!!!
"10-12 year olds don't really know Axel Foley like I did as a kid"... I hope he reaised the paradox of his of hsi statement. The reason we loved Axel Foley as a kids was that we wheren't supposed to be watching him and he was cool, shot guns and mouthed off and swore a lot! What a fucking tool...would respect him more if he just said we want to make it a PG13 to make as much money as posible and rape what's left od Eddie Murphy's legacy. Why not a tweenies do Delirious!? More

Posted by bronco3114 at 16:27 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

What a fucking pointless excersise!!!
More

Posted by bronco3114 at 16:23 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

Oh dear god.....
Ratner is a tw@... More

Posted by discodave101 at 15:57 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

I'm so pissed off about this! Is there some kind of address where i can send my thoughts to Brett Cockface? More

Posted by Leeorami 2.0 at 15:57 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

RE: What is the point?
L: CORLEONE For f*ck's sake!!!!! I wanna see the old Murphy - swearing and cracking wise (Trading Places, 48 hrs). atner should die of gonorrhaea and rot in hellibly a tad harsh). ould you like a cookie son? nd no, not harsh enough! More

Posted by Mr Underhill at 15:49 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

FOOLS!
listen, we WANT to hear Eddie Murphy say "fuck" again! More

Posted by Hughezy at 15:42 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

Get the fuck outta here
Well isn't that a surprise. I was waiting for this. Where have all the film producers testicles gone? GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT! More

Posted by Leeorami 2.0 at 15:38 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

and i was so looking forward to this happening.... More

Posted by clarkkent at 15:35 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

BHC4
So let me get this straight i've waited over 15 years for Eddie Murphy to swear again to say the immortal line 'Get the Fuck outta here!' and now its turned into a Die Hard 4 oh wait i see PG-13 then the unrated DVD with the swearing put back in very clever. More

Posted by thegodfathers at 15:33 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

Oh dear god.....
Ratner is a tw@... More

Posted by discodave101 at 15:30 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

Oh Christ.. More

Posted by The Jackal at 15:29 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

I never understood what was so good about this francise. The first one was your average cop movie, the second one was shit and the third was even shitter. I don't get why they want to make another one. More

Posted by mlavagna at 15:27 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

Oh Dear
Hollywood runs out of ideas and goes back to the eighties/seventies for sequels and remakes. Coming in 2010 : BACK TO THE FUTURE IV - Marty has to track down a time travelling teenage wolf. DIRTY HARRY : CALLAHAN & SON. Harry comes out of retirement to help his son, Barry stop a Urangutang on a killing spree. THE GODFATHER : EXTENDED FAMILY. Starring Al Pacino, James Caan and Luke Wilson reprising his role from Old School as a long lost relative and heir to the Corleone empire. More

Posted by aka_sammym at 15:15 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Beverley Hills Cop goes Rush Hour!!!!!
L: dragonINC I know a lot of people prob won't like this, but what the f**k, I'm gonna write it anyway!!! What if Mr.Ratner took the Rush Hour team of Jackie Chan & Chris Tucker to beverley hills where they need the wise cracking Eddie Murphy (Poss with Judge Reinhold) to tackle a great crime of some sort!!! If it was rated 15/18 the comedy possibilities between CT & EM could be great!!! With the added action talents of JC it really could be a great idea!!! Come on I know u like it More

Posted by punchdrunk at 14:59 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

Beverley Hills Cop goes Rush Hour!!!!!
I know a lot of people prob won't like this, but what the f**k, I'm gonna write it anyway!!! What if Mr.Ratner took the Rush Hour team of Jackie Chan & Chris Tucker to beverley hills where they need the wise cracking Eddie Murphy (Poss with Judge Reinhold) to tackle a great crime of some sort!!! If it was rated 15/18 the comedy possibilities between CT & EM could be great!!! With the added action talents of JC it really could be a great idea!!! Come on I know u like it!!!!! More

Posted by dragonINC at 14:53 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

RE: What is the point?
For f*ck's sake!!!!! I wanna see the old Murphy - swearing and cracking wise (Trading Places, 48 hrs). Brett Ratner should die of gonorrhaea and rot in hell ( possibly a tad harsh).   Speaking of 48 Hrs, Nolte and Murphy should team up for a 3rd - Another F*cking 48 Hours. More

Posted by CORLEONE at 14:52 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

What is the point?
As Olly points out, shooting and swearing are an integral part of the BHC experience -what is the point in watering it down for moronic twelve year olds? I remember watching the 3rd one (admittedly pretty dire anyway) on the BBC before the watershed several years back -taking all the swearing out made the script unintelligible (the 'f' word being multipurpose and utilised to its full potential when Murphy gets going). I get that Hollywood thinks that their target audience is mainly prepubescent More

Posted by dahlia79 at 14:51 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

Beverley Hills Cop goes Rush Hour!!!!!
I know a lot of people prob won't like this, but what the f**k, I'm gonna write it anyway!!! What if Mr.Ratner took the Rush Hour team of Jackie Chan & Chris Tucker to beverley hills where they need the wise cracking Eddie Murphy (Poss with Judge Reinhold) to tackle a great crime of some sort!!! If it was rated 15/18 the comedy possibilities between CT & EM could be great!!! With the added action talents of JC it really could be a great idea!!! Come on I know u like it!!!!! More

Posted by dragonINC at 14:43 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

Murphy needs to go back to standup
He was hilarious! As were the first two BHC movies. He hasn't been funny since Bowfinger. More

Posted by AboyNamedSue at 14:40 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

The 3rd one was garbage, George Lucas was in it. Then he made the Phantom Menace More

Posted by sleepwalker at 14:38 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

RE:
I was watching the original BHC on TV the other night. It was on around midnight and they were showing an awful TV version with all of the language dubbed, even "shit" became" "shoot". It brought back memories of how awful TV censorship used to be, but also served as a good indicator of what the new movie could be like. Beverly Hills Cop without the swearing and violence, it might as well be called something else and a new franchise created. More

Posted by skeletonjack at 14:37 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

I'm SHOCKED, sorry no i'm not.
This comes as no surprise to me and i fully expected it. i remember watching BHC when i was 10 or 11 on video with my older cousins. The whole excitment was watching something that was a bit to old for me. This marketing ploy is killing modern cinema, Robocop, Terminator, Die Hard, now Beverly Hills Cop, I can't wait to see the PG-13 Clockwork Orange remake. More

Posted by Greg Andrew at 14:37 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

usually when i here 'they' are going to make a long awaited sequel i am excited and when it comes out deflated ... (see superman, matrix etc) ... this time i'm just deflated ... third BHC was utter rubbish and the only thing eddie murphy has produced half way decent since god knows when is shrek. .... perhaps they should hedge their bets and make BHC 4 CGI More

Posted by jjmhm at 14:34 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

Spawn of Satan
Ratners a complete CUNT!!! 'nuff said More

Posted by hitchcock at 14:33 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

I hate Ratner ... but I hated him already for X-Men 3, this just makes my hatred more intense - how Empire cannot greet him with same disdain as some one like MCG is beyond me !!! More

Posted by waltham1979 at 14:29 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Beverly hills cop a PG 13
Shocker. More

Posted by Mr Underhill at 14:24 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

I'm sorry but, I have already lightened my torch and sharpened my pitch fork. I'm about to stride to Brett Ratner... He claims that every movie character was his favourite of "all time". I'd also like to say, the original BHC movies contained a lot of nudity in too... Their gna have to take the swearing, killing and tits outta the friggin' equation which made this franchise work. It's a nice thought, trying to introduce the character to kids 10-12 years, but at the same time it's More

Posted by I miss the 90s at 14:23 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

PG???? Can we shoot Ratner???
I have to admit I didnt watch the Beverly Hills Cop movie til I was about 13/14yrs old...so yeah I guess I was too young...but still it would be wrong to make it PG...much like they did with Die Hard 4.0 (unless u get the DVD that has the unrated version as well the cinematic one). That will just take the movie out of context...NOOOOOOOOOOO!!! More

Posted by Noelg25 at 14:23 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

Muddy Funster....
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Posted by Moosedog at 14:22 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

Why is Hollywood actively trying to gang-rape my childhood?...Why? More

Posted by lukeyboy at 14:22 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

RE: Beverly hills cop a PG 13
My expectation level for this has plummeted.   It was 0, its now -1000 More

Posted by Guchmeister at 14:14 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

Fish in a pond...
Wasn't the fun of the Original movie that Axel was from a tough precinct moving to Beverly Hills, fish out of water type situations made the first one fun and the effect of his loose cannon policing on his clean cut partners made the sequals bareable as the premise started to streach, I don't think Ratner can kill something that is already dead. More

Posted by punchdrunk at 14:14 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

WTF
Beverly Hills Cop a PG? Get the fuck outa here. More

Posted by jamiestogden at 14:13 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

Beverly hills cop a PG 13
Was is ever going to be anything else? More

Posted by cleanbreak films at 14:11 on 04 June 2008 | Report This Post

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