| WHY DID I WAIT SO LONG TO WATCH THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
I have just finished watching this film, yes it is 2009!!!!!
I was put off of watching it because I didnt believe it would be the same. However my son convinced me to get it, It was amazing im buzzing so is he!!! I came straight on line to find out if there would be a sequel and am chuffed to find there is. Understated movie based on expectations from watching superman as a kid.
This film dragged up the same old goosebumps at the duuhh duhh duhhh music lol amazing. Perfect return, the dir More
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| RE: No pain? |
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A lot of people seem to be forgetting the fairly disturbing scene in Returns where Superman gets the shit kicked out of him, stabbed and then pushed off a cliff; no pain? Don't know about you but for me it was pretty chilling to see Supes get his comeuppance in such a way, and at the hands of Kumar no less ote]
Actually thought this bit was so weak. Lex goes to all these lengths to get superman to this point and what does he do? He has two random More
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| RE: Most Definitely |
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Okay, so maybe in terms of action it didn't have as much as Spiderman 3 or d 4.0ote]
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A lot of people seem to be forgetting the fairly disturbing scene in Returns where Superman gets the shit kicked out of him, stabbed and then pushed off a cliff; no pain? Don't know about you but for me it was pretty chilling to see Supes get his comeuppance in such a way, and at the hands of Kumar no less ote]
Actually thought this bit was so weak. Lex goes to all these lengths to get superman to this point and what does he do? He has two random thugs give him More
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| RE: Superman Returns |
Really liked SR and can't wait for the next one. I actually liked the fact that he used his abilities for some argueably selfish and slightly creepy motivations (spying on Lois and the kid, etc) made him a bit more real and less of an annoying boy scout, never bought the idea that someone could have that much power and not get even a little corrupted. Only thing I didn't like was Lexs master plan it was a bit rubbish and if childhood memory serves, it was an idea done better in the action force More
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| RE: No pain? |
A lot of people seem to be forgetting the fairly disturbing scene in Returns where Superman gets the shit kicked out of him, stabbed and then pushed off a cliff; no pain? Don't know about you but for me it was pretty chilling to see Supes get his comeuppance in such a way, and at the hands of Kumar no less More
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| RE: Superman Returns |
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Absolutely brilliant news!
n Returnsht up there with Begins of the best superhero flicks made (leaving aside any technical arguments about Batman being a superhero). It was a poignant, meditative film exploration of the character of Superman and his place in a modern world.
I've never understood the criticism that this film came in for from some quarters, is really is a titanically good film. I guess there wasn't enough explosions for some peoples taste and they act More
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| RE: Fly again! |
n_smile_pistols.gif]If it's going to feature jason in it again i'm not watching it, and be about his relantionship with lois and it will be like the new adventures of superman all over again which is getting kinda tired now. More
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| Fly again! |
I cannot wait for a sequal. I think the first film had its flaws, maybe not enough super action, but taken as a whole it was a great film that made me believe a man can fly, again!. Brandon Routh was perfect and, although i thought no one could replace Christopher Reeve he proved me wrong. Bryan Singer did a brilliant job and i feel that returns should be taken as part 1 of a larger story, similar to the X MEN films. How about Superman fighting Zod in the second film but having it end on a c More
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| WHY THE WORLD NEEDS SUPERMAN |
My last word on this subject.........probably.As Christopher Reeve put it, He's a friend,everyone needs a friend. More
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I like superman returns. i thought bryan singer did a great job on that movie and brandon routh is a great superman and got as close to christopher reeve's portrayal as clark kent that you can which i think was absolutely spot on. I am slightly worried about the son of superman thread singer introduced but i completely trust singer with this franchise. oh and give kate bosworth a chance she did a good job on that movie. More
Posted by simjamlmx at 15:05 on 28 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| "Wrath of Khan" Sequel with ZOD one more time. |
Bring back ZOD one more time so Singer can make his "Wrath of Khan" Sequel he's been talking about. How awesome would it be for Terrance Stamp to return. Then after the ZOD story, let's move on to new things. But Let's get ZOD one more time!!! Singer is the man, he knows what he's doing. Superman Returns was awesome. Light on the action, but he had to bring Superman back after all these years. Everybody flies these days (Neo- Matrix), so you have to dig deeper with the characters and h More
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| What supes can really do? |
What do you mean you want to see what Supes can really do? In the last movie he lifted a CONTINENT MADE OF KRYPTONITE-LACED ROCK into blimmin' space! If that's not what he can do then what the hell is?! No need to push the envelope if you ask me... More
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i think a sequel would be great!
although i dont see what the problem was with the first one (superman returns i mean)
it was a little light on the action, but lets face it, the script was brilliant and the plot outstounding.
oh, and visually, one of the best films ever.
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Absolutely brilliant news!
n Returnsht up there with Begins of the best superhero flicks made (leaving aside any technical arguments about Batman being a superhero). It More
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| Most Definitely |
Okay, so maybe in terms of action it didn't have as much as Spiderman 3 or Die Hard 4.0 BUT the story was crucial. Hollywood tends to only focus on the action and the CGI sequences and the story tends to suffer from this. Singer directed it wonderfully, he got the balance correct in my opinion. If there is too much action I tend to get bored - there has to be some meaty storylines in a film otherwise it is tedious.
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Posted by shaded_silver at 16:22 on 18 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| SUPERMAN; THE MAN OF STEEL |
The sooner the better Bryan, Superman Returns was awesome. More
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| YES & Supes HAS OTHER VILLIANS!!!! |
I love the Superman character and I would love to see another movie, which stays true to the Superman history, but I am soooo tired of Lex Luthor I could puke. U notice that every HIGHLY succesfully Spider-man movie had a DIFFERENT Spidey villian. Are the writers that uncreative that they can't use Brainic, Metallo, Mxyzptlk, parasite, Bizzaro, etc etc, but every movie and tv show seems to FOCUS on Lex Luthor More
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Do I want to see Superman return again? YES! Do I want it to be with Singer! A resounding YES! Singer understands Superman in a way that the detractor flunkies who pan Returns never can. When I heard the news that Singer was still going to be involved in the continuation of this story, I cried a little -- tears of joy. More
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As much as Ilike Brian Singer Returns sucked
As will a sequel, though I hope against hope it does not More
Posted by crimebusterofthesea at 03:29 on 17 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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Oh yeah, just remembered. Scrolling down the forum I saw a complaint saying something like 'will they play John Williams' theme every five minutes again?'
What the hell is wrong with that? I'd gladly listen to that on a loop forever. More
Posted by cdjwfan at 22:25 on 16 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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Yaaaay! A sequel! Can't wait and if it's anything like as good as Returns it should rank among the best of superhero movies. More
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I thought the 'plane save' and the 'bullet in the eye' scenes were that much more effective due to the lack of action in the film overall. I'm not a big comic book reader but is Luthor not the only real nemesis Superman has? I take it it's not like Batman or Spiderman where you can pick & choose the villans. More
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| Were is your heart? |
Superman Returns was brilliant, being a comic reader for years, having watched the first 4 films multiple times( even quest for peace), i thought it was a great way to bring the character back!
The shuttle save was breath taking, the romance and heart of the film was very moving, finally Superman had a problem he could not solve, his own feelings! The whole film was shot with such love and care, everything looked beautiful. Bring on the sequal, so glad Singer is directing again. More
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| RE: SUPERMAN IS THE NUTS |
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I personally thought that Superman Returns was brilliant. there was a real effort made to ensure that all aspects of Superman were addressed. i cant believe anyone would say Superman is boring! there is no super hero that could beat him (without the help of kryptonite). I think that if Superman Returns had concentrated on the action instead of storyline and understanding the mentallity of the man of steal it would have been much less of a film than it is.
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| Superman sequel |
I think it is awesome that a sequel is being made and there will be lots of action. I did not like, Superman Returns the first time I saw it but having viewed the movie at least 3 more times I do think it was a great movie. I thought the late Christopher Reeves was great as Superman and I think that Tom Welling would make a great Superman but I do like Brandon Routh. My real only criticism is I like the old Superman suit Christopher Reeves wore. But indeed, bring on the sequel, I can't wait. More
Posted by Kitwalker77203 at 19:29 on 15 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| RE: Just make it good Bryan |
Also, not sure if the studio would go for the whole 'Kill Superman' storyline. Might affect future Superman films, him being dead and all. More
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| RE: Just make it good Bryan |
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Superman Returns was really a big letdown. Very dull colours most of the time, only the bright space shuttle rescue scenes were true to Richard Donner's films and the comics, the rest was grey or white and quite gkoomy which is suited Batman but not to Superman.
Spacey was great as Luthor so more of him please, Luthor really Supermans only memorable villain where Batman has countless of the little devil. If the sequel is any good then please can we have Doomsday and The Death of More
Posted by rattlehead57 at 19:02 on 15 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| RE: people were bored |
This is great news!
Superman Returns was great and I can't wait to see this... As long as Singer's makin it. And Brandon Routh should definitely be back. More
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hell no i never watched the superman returns film because one look at the trailer said it al...this movie is gonna suck.. More
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Can't wait to see the sequel, I'm sure it will live up to all expectations. i have faith in singer, I'm sure he'll be triumphant!
But surely they should replace Bosworth as Lois Lane. She did not suit the character and did not do it any justice!! More
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| BRING IT ON! |
I'd love to see this sequel materialize. The first, like Singer's first X-Men seemed life a preface for the main event but I know he'll pull out all the stops with the sequel. More
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| RE: SINGER BITES |
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Instead of an exciting new Superman movie that would take full advantage of current special effects tech to show us a Superman we could never get on film before. I expected villains actually capable of going head to head with Supes and the onscreen battles to be beyond spectacular!!!
What I got was...a poor story that plays havoc with the Superman mythos, a sad, meloncholy, heart broken Superman, and an unneeded role for Singer's boytoy, Marsden.
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Posted by lisamoorish at 10:18 on 14 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| RE: people were bored |
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Superman by his very definition and history can been seen by certain, shall we say cynical types, as a sentimental ‘boring’ character. What with looking deep into the human condition, finding all that is credible about it and fighting to uphold those values and qualities. Truth, Justice all that stuff! Returns celebrates this aspect of the character and is probably the reason that it is construed by certain people as BORING. Today the antihero is championed more than the he More
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For me it wasn't about the lack of action which damaged the last film it was the characterisation and the apparent lack of understanding over the character. Making him a peeping tom who actively attempts to break up a family for his own selfish reasons and sneaks into childrens rooms at night without permission of the mother made him somewhat slimy and creepy. The lack of dynamisc and chemistry between Superman and Lois Lane also didn't help or did the bitchy and selfish Lois More
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| Looking forward to it!! |
I think Singer did a great job and I will look forward to his next superman film! He put a lot of thought and character development into Superman Returns. If you dont like the plot or writing or whatever then thats your opinion but if you are just craving an action packed blockbuster then thats disappointing and its that attitude that means we are piled up with overblown budget crap week in week out. More
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| RE: SINGER BITES |
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JUST GOES TO SHOW...what empty suits are running Warner Bros. if they allow this Singer guy to direct the next Superman when he ruined the last one. Bottom Line, Superman Returns wasn't fun, it was boring and confused. To hell with the Superman Fanbase that has been pleading to bring in a new director....Singer will screw the next one up...guaranteed....And concerning the ridiculous storyline of Superman's Super kid....I just hope he's at summer camp for this next film.....
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Posted by SwagBag at 13:33 on 13 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| not a good idea |
Considering how bad bryan singer's superman movie was, i don't see how making another one is going make me change my mind that brandon routh is a bad superman and never will be as good as christopher reeve. More
Posted by anakin solo at 11:54 on 13 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| THE MAN OF STEEL |
Superman is THE greatest superhero of all time. And Superman Returns was a fantastic movie, can't wait for the sequel.Any of you who might have dismissed the first movie should give it another try and see the sheer amount of quality on screen! More
Posted by boredbluekoala at 09:11 on 13 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| SUPERMAN RETURNS AGAIN |
I enjoyed Superman returns up to a point, it ticked alot of the boxes and took me back to the first 2 Superman films, Superman the Movie and Superman 11, well apart from the dodgy effects of course (and yes the effects looked a bit ify even back then), but I do agree, with some of my fellow Empire readers it did fall down on the action (a little) so lets hope the action is higher now that we know who everyone is. More
Posted by ODForrest at 08:25 on 13 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| RE: Superbly Bad |
I am big fan of the movie. and of Superman. Singer did a great job, it had high expectations and it isnt easy revampng a fanbase, but he did it. He kept the fans and made some new ones.... bring on the sequel!!! More
Posted by Jack008 at 05:16 on 13 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| Superbly Bad |
Sorry Brian..I like the 2 Xmen movies but yr Superman Returns stinks. too much melodramatic scene and that was not the main problem. The issue was with the Villian..gosh..how bad can Lex be whencompared to other SuperVillians in Superman series? Now that u have been given the 2nd chance, do the right thing
Don't walk the Spiderman path..be original and creative. just like you did marvellously in Xmen2 More
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| SINGER BITES |
JUST GOES TO SHOW...what empty suits are running Warner Bros. if they allow this Singer guy to direct the next Superman when he ruined the last one. Bottom Line, Superman Returns wasn't fun, it was boring and confused. To hell with the Superman Fanbase that has been pleading to bring in a new director....Singer will screw the next one up...guaranteed....And concerning the ridiculous storyline of Superman's Super kid....I just hope he's at summer camp for this next film.....
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| SUPERMAN IS THE NUTS |
I personally thought that Superman Returns was brilliant. there was a real effort made to ensure that all aspects of Superman were addressed. i cant believe anyone would say Superman is boring! there is no super hero that could beat him (without the help of kryptonite). I think that if Superman Returns had concentrated on the action instead of storyline and understanding the mentallity of the man of steal it would have been much less of a film than it is. More
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I just hope that the man of steel wont turn into a heartless action bonanza,i mean the story needs to be good and interesting still,not just action action action...but with kick ass action. More
Posted by My name is Jack!!! at 01:20 on 13 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| RE: Makes no difference |
think of it, why dont they take the budget for Superman Lives/Comes Again/Redux/Whatever and spend it on a Green Lantern movie AND a Flash movie.nbsp;
Two reasons:
1. Neither of those characters is as popular as Superman always has been.
2. If it weren't for Superman being so popular when comic book stories were first introduced, we likely wouldn't even have the other superheroes.
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Posted by dvdfreak26 at 22:59 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| Yes, please! |
My wife and I loved Superman Returns! It had romance, humor, and action...and Brandon Routh was perfect for the role. I would love to see a sequel with Brandon, Kate, Kevin, and James. I found it very odd that so many people hated the movie. Maybe it wasn't perfect, but how could it be? Most fans of the Superman story had grown up with the comic books, television show, or the first series of movies. We had expectations, many of which could never be met no matter who directed or who starred More
Posted by dvdfreak26 at 22:52 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| Oh God no... |
Look you can't hide behind this excuse "you can't please all the people all of the time". Ummm Mr. Singer, the original Superman is pretty universally recognized as great so actually you CAN please all the people all of the time. Make a movie that is worth a damn and it will be liked. Do not indulge your gay fetish by focusing on Superman's package and casting a Lois Lane that you can go on vapid shopping sprees with, but who has no discernible talent. Rachel McAdams would have been an More
Posted by johnkane70 at 22:38 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| YES! |
I like that Bryan Singer both recognizes the lack of action in SUPERMAN RETURNS and does not apologize for it. There was absolutely a HUGE nostalgia factor in that film, and I'm really excited to see a Superman that (shudder) throws punches. I absolutely recognize and understand the problems that people had with SUPERMAN RETURNS - hell, I had a few myself - but I continue to have the utmost faith in Bryan Singer as a director and a storyteller, and I am eager and excited to see what he does in More
Posted by WallyWest5 at 22:13 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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Understandably people found Superman Returns, I myself did because of the lack of action. Whilst Routh didnt do a bad job donning the trademark cape and tights, as Clark Kent his character lacked what Reeves did effortlesly. Routh's Kent was trying to hard to be geeky and just wasnt quite right.
In my opinion for there to be any chance of pleasing everyone next time around there needs to be a new challenge for Superman. Whilst Lex Luthor is a great character we have seen to much of him. Why not More
Posted by dominatrix86 at 20:54 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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Hopefully it won't have Kevin Spacey in it as I personally think he ruined the film. More
Posted by Kusanagi at 20:00 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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I really didn't like Superman Returns... In a word- boring! The X-Men films are a million times better! More
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Very well said, pete_traynor! SR is a Fantastic and fascinating film.
And please bring all the same cast members back, including Tristan and Kate. She was very solid, and I hate recasting. More
Posted by blueyes at 19:37 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| Makes no difference |
Superman is the most boring of all superheroes anyway. And I quote comic book store guy from The Simpsons; CBSG : "Who would be suitable for this situation (upon seeing a crisis in Springfield)? The Flash? Green Lantern?" Passer by : "How about Superman?" CBSG : "(sarcastic disapproving drawl) Oh, please...". Superman is dull and out of date. Come to think of it, why dont they take the budget for Superman Lives/Comes Again/Redux/Whatever and spend it on a Green Lant More
Posted by coomi01 at 19:29 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| I CAN'T WAIT FOR MAN OF STEEL! |
I totally loved SR! I think it's a beautiful and timeless film, and it made me care about Superman again.
Bryan Singer is a great director, and I'm sure he will do a great sequel, no doubt. He has said that it will be more action packed, faster, and meaner, and I can't wait to see it!!
But the best thing is to see Brandon Routh return as the Man of Steel, I think he makes such a perfect Superman! He was an inspired choice for the role of this iconic superhero.
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Posted by blueyes at 19:20 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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For me it wasn't about the lack of action which damaged the last film it was the characterisation and the apparent lack of understanding over the character. Making him a peeping tom who actively attempts to break up a family for his own selfish reasons and sneaks into childrens rooms at night without permission of the mother made him somewhat slimy and creepy. The lack of dynamisc and chemistry between Superman and Lois Lane also didn't help or did the bitchy and selfish Lois Lane and the tota More
Posted by sanchia at 18:42 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| Stop the whining....please! |
How can people moan about S. Returns. Jesus, before that came along we were going to be treated to a McG directed version, or a version starring Nic Cage, or a complete reboot altogether in which everything familiar about the character was stripped away to appeal to the hip young kiddies, who obviously know everything cool. You know, every now and then you have to be thankful for what you are given. True, the film is not perfect (what is?) but it certainly is not plagurist, as the extra features More
Posted by Deacon Frost at 17:36 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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Superman's qualities do not necessarily make him boring. Grant Morrison's All Star Superman run is full of this and does not make Supes boring in the slightest. Superman Returns does not capture any of the wonder of Superman - the plane rescue is an excellent visceral sequence but it is the only part of the movie that approaches this.
As for Returns being "not afraid to NOT deliver exactly what its fan base knows, wants and feels safe with" - err, did you not see the Donner film fr More
Posted by lisamoorish at 17:27 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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Best news in a long long time!!!
Superman Returns is sooo much better than Batman.
I expect Superman Man of Steel to be even better!!!
Singer is the right man for the job....more of the same pls but with more action, new villians and some new female characters!!!! :) More
Posted by jeffamania at 17:23 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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Lisa. Superman by his very definition and history can been seen by certain, shall we say cynical types, as a sentimental ‘boring’ character. What with looking deep into the human condition, finding all that is credible about it and fighting to uphold those values and qualities. Truth, Justice all that stuff! Returns celebrates this aspect of the character and is probably the reason that it is construed by certain people as BORING. Today the antihero is championed more than the hero a More
Posted by pete_traynor at 17:20 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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Empire!! I cant believe how u've overrated superman returns! You gave Batman Begins 4 stars and Supes 5! Batman was way betta, the story was superb, action was well balanced and the set pieces were spot on! wheras superman returns, Brian singer seemed to have lost the plot while shooting! the story was that which a 5year old would write in his version of superman! if singer really cared abt the characters he wouldnt have chose kate bosworth to play louis. and wats with the kid! a total balls up More
Posted by tpakzone at 17:07 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| SUPERMAN RETURNS I HOPE LEX LUTHOR DOSENT |
PLEASE BRYAN..NO MORE LEX LUTHOR!! LOOK AT ALL THE BAT-VILLIANS WE HAVE SEEN..2FACE , RIDDLER, PENGUIN ,CATBABE ,JOKER,SCARECROW, RA'S AL GHUL,MR. FREZZY,IVY , BANE.....AND ALL WEVE SEEN FROM THE SUPERMAN FILMS IS LEX LUTHOR , 3 KRYPTONIAN VILLIANS W/ LEX LUTHOR , A EVIL BUSINESSMAN , GUS GORMAN , NUCLEAR MAN W/ LEX LUTHOR..THEN LEX LUTHOR AGIAN IN SUPERMAN RETURNS...COME ON GUYS PLEASE THERE'S PLENTY OF VILLIANS IN THE SUPERMAN UNIVERSE...SUPERMAN HAS YET MEET HIS MATCH..GIVE HIM ANOTHER SUPER More
Posted by JONNYB.BADD at 16:56 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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Pete, if we're using Coldplay as an analogy, then Superman Returns is the Coldplay of movies! Morose, boring, overly-sentimental guff! Pick your metaphors more carefully sir.
For the record, people don't criticise Batman Begins because it was entertaining (though for my money it goes off the rails a bit in the final act). Superman Returns is not entertaining - it is BORING. If you're talking abourt character work, what about Clark Kent? Total short shrift in the film. Just because a film has More
Posted by lisamoorish at 16:53 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| Lets see what he can do....Mr Singer that is. |
Yeah let him continue where he left off...I quite enjoyed Supes return....I did actually feel really sorry for Superman in an emotional sense.He was never ever gonna get the girl was he and never will Let him have a crack at a second movie....we know Singer can produce a good action flick so give him free reign and lets see what he produces.I'm all for it. More
Posted by The Keymaster at 15:57 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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For fuck sake! you see it explode at the start of the film. IT'S THE FIRST THING YOU SEE!! Are you sure you even watched it? More
Posted by pete_traynor at 15:50 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| Superman will return!!!!!!!!!! |
this is the best news i've had in a long time! i was really worried that we woudn't get a sequel. Trust me folks, Man of Steel will be just like X2. Hopefully the opening scene will just blow us all away. Empire, another 5 star superhero film is coming. More
Posted by Paulie at 15:49 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| RE: What an utterly weak plot device |
The destruction of Krypton is not in dispute in Returns. They think they may have found large fragments of it. Mini Kryptons if you will. It’s explained in the opening text. The scenes showing Kal-El exploring the remains were cut. Which is a shame because if you look in the Art of SR it has all the concept art and the pieces floating around are huge. Granted, survivors would be bit slim but wouldn’t you want to be sure. Wouldn’t ya? More
Posted by pete_traynor at 15:46 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| RE: people were bored |
In the words of a better man than all of us. “You cant trust people, people listen to Coldplay and voted for the Nazis.”
If you want matey boy from the High Life painted blue over Superman. Well, enjoy your Coldplay records! More
Posted by pete_traynor at 15:38 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| RE: Superman RETURNS!!! |
We just don't criticise it for a lack of action. We criticise it becuase it is BORING. As someone else mentioned, there are stretches of X2 without any action - but the film is NEVER boring. Singer balances things perfectly. In Superman Returns however he made a dull, morose movie where the hero is less heroic than James Marsden. You watch - if this sequel ever actually gets made things will go 'splodey right from the off. WB know that people were bored and annoyed during Returns. More
Posted by lisamoorish at 15:20 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| Superman RETURNS!!! |
Superman Returns is everything it could have been. Bryan Singer couldn’t have done a better job. The people who have critised the movie (and still are) are only doing so because of the “lack of action” in the movie. Viewers were expecting to see an action packed extravaganza (Spiderman, Transformers), but instead saw a movie which in my eyes, has all the elements a superhero movie needs; director, cast, humour, ACTION, drama, romance and a superb story. I thought saving a plane More
Posted by Arooney at 15:14 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| sweet a sequel!!!!! |
look superman returns was,nt all bad.
im a hugh fan of the originals.except for superman 4.
jesus christ what a pile of shite.
anyhoo thought brandon routh was a good choice kinda a younger chris reeves.
need more action in the next part.
so come on bryan singer you did an amazing job with x-men 1+2.
lets see superman kick ass in this one. More
Posted by mohanicus at 14:36 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| Yay! |
Ok, I loved Superman Returns at the time. I still love the characters now (except Kate as Lois - that was horribly cast. She's like 25 now and supposed to have a 5 year old boy and a Pulitzer?), but the longer I had to think about it the story was lacking. Lex was a poor choice of villains. Superman is virtually indestructible to human foes, he needs another superpower to battle. As long as Brian doesn't make another movie where kryptonite is the thing that almost brings Superman down, I'll More
Posted by lizzygilly at 13:54 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| Are you crazy Empire! |
If they really 'cared' about the characters Superman wouldn't have had a child would he? Will Superboy be in the sequel? Hell, why not introduce Krypto the Superdog as well. Madness. More
Posted by douglasmain at 13:39 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| RE: Superman |
I think the reigns need to be given to different creatives. The writers of Transformers...WTF?!?
Singer might, just might, be able to command a good budget for the sequel, but overall, this needs a proper reboot and not be a blowjob to Donner. More
Posted by hawkeye10 at 13:37 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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Please Mr Singer no more Reeve is still spinning after the last film. If you must then try and make a film with some excitement, plot, charm and humour - in essence all the things that made the first 3 great. Returns took itself far too seriously - much like the X men films. More
Posted by The Moog at 13:37 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| RE: Superman |
The most damning thing is the plot - scientists tell Superman that Krypton might have survived so he shoots off into space to have a look??? sn't the destruction of Krypton the most fundamental set in stone part of the whole bloody story?
What an utterly weak plot device More
Posted by Fluke Skywalker at 13:29 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| New trend in Hollywood... |
is it just me or is this the new trend in Hollywood: trying to sneak in love stories into blockbusters? The Hulk and Spiderman are cases in point. I felt neither hit the mark I expected, though both grossed well. They've now promised more focus on action for The Incredible Hulk, haven't they? More
Posted by Burglarman at 13:28 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| about fucking time |
I have the 13 disc superman set and say that me and my brother ahrad guy to please came out of superman returns with a massive smile on our face and couldn't stop talking about it for days after the fim, we loved the story and the characters and i think replacing the story for acion is a badidea but if singer's on board i'll shut up. finally just to say i can't wait and as long as everyone!!!!!! comes back (brandon routh) i'll be more than happy to spend 2 hours and pay for my admission ticket More
Posted by dave_0989 at 13:27 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| Superman |
I really enjoyed superman returns, although i do agree that bosworth was maybe not the best option to play lois lane (too pretty by comparison to her predecessor). I wonder what singer could do with nuclearman....... More
Posted by ilikechicken at 13:20 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| RE: Singer Talks Superman Returns Sequel |
rst one was a romantic film and a nostalgic film,” he says. "I'll be the first person to own up to that without making any apologies for it. I knew it was going to be that from the outset. And now that the characters are established, there's really an opportunity to up the threat levels...Clearly there'll be a body count frame one, it will be unrelenting terror! All those teenage girls who found the movie and mooned over James Marsden or Brandon? Well, I'm going to wake them up!” He may be joki More
Posted by Mason Verger at 13:20 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| Don't Do It.... |
Superman Returns was a large chunk of CRAPTONITE. That said he might take on board some of the criticisms of the first movie and actually make a Superhero flick with some semblance of excitement.
I'd rather see someone else get a shot at it - he had his chance More
Posted by Fluke Skywalker at 13:18 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| Hooray. Great news at last!!! |
I am so glad to hear that the development has begun.
I know there are people that were dissapointed by Returns, but like others I loved every minute of it!!!
It had such a strong set-up for a new series of Supes movies and I'm glad to hear that this is finally getting under way.
Obviously i'll be a lot happier when the cameras start rolling and the first set images start trickling out but until then this is a great start to things.
And to be fair whilst $400 Million isn't great for t More
Posted by NeObiWan at 13:15 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| RE: Nostalgia and the plane sequence |
Although I enjoyed Superman Returns, there were some flaws in the film. The mis-casting of Kate Bosworth is one example (they should of done screen tests of actresses with Routh). Too many scenes & dialogue were simply copied straight from the 1st Superman film. Singer made Superman to be dumber than Lois Lane...
Also, re-watching the film on DVD - I notice the film is 10 times better if the beginning simply started with Clark arriving back at the Daily Planet !!! More
Posted by Makman at 13:12 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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I thought Bryan Singer's movie was spot on, I loved and still continue to love it. Keep it in the same vein Bryan you got so much of it right, don't let the naysayers deter you!! More
Posted by betsy101 at 13:02 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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And about bloody time too! More
Posted by steveg66 at 12:56 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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I watched Superman Returns again the other night and frankly I think it is superb!! I enjoyed every minute of it and really can't see why people didn't get it. Bring on part 2..... More
Posted by philip_81 at 12:42 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| RE: Too much studio and not enough location shooting! |
Well I think you’ve nailed it! Attacking the GC backdrops, C’mon you can do better than that. There was no part of that interpretation of Metropolis that came over as unconvincing. The way that film was lensed through genesis cameras was absolutely gorgeous! Shooting in Manhatten didn’t stop 75% of the Spiderman films looking like Playstation 1 game. You want to vent frustrations about shoddy GC environments, take them there! Bradshaw cameo though, mmmm. Not as bad as Macy Grey More
Posted by pete_traynor at 12:11 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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"We have to say, we actually enjoyed a huge amount about Superman Returns". Well you gave it five bloody stars, Empire! I'm sick of the jibes sent Return's way, it was a bold, ambitious attempt by Singer and a labour of love, and for Superman fans it was a joy. For those who have an attention span thaf wains if there's not an explosion every five minutes, well don't watch the film and stop slagging it off. More
Posted by Ben Myers at 12:02 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| Too much studio and not enough location shooting! |
Please! What made the original Donner film so good was the use of real locations i.e. New York, to give weight and depth to the film. All the GGI backdrops in Returns helped make the film seem two dimensional. Hell, even be so bold as to shoot a scene or two with the use of actual people in the background instead of Extras. Imagine the real reaction of joy and suprise on people's faces as Brandon Routh came bolting out of a telephone booth in downtown Manhattan. You could even have the Sex and More
Posted by Cameron1975Williams at 11:51 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| Too much studio and not enough location shooting! |
Please! What made the original Donner film so good was the use of real locations i.e. New York, to give weight and depth to the film. All the GGI backdrops in Returns helped make the film seem two dimensional. Hell, even be so blod as to shoot a scene or two with the use of actual people in the background instead of Extras. Imagine the real reaction of joy and suprise on people's faces as Brandon Routh came bolting out of a telephone booth in downtown Manhattan. You could even have the Sex More
Posted by Cameron1975Williams at 11:50 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| RE: Nostalgia and the plane sequence |
I’m not sure that looking at it as recreating Donner is the right approach. The Richard Donner interpretation of Superman is seen by most to be the best there is and after the whole butchery of the original Superman 2 people wanted to see what happened next. Superman 3 and Quest for Peace are obviously abominations and don’t count. Singer approached Donner with his pitch and got his blessing to move forward with the project to eradicate 3 and 4 and continue that story line. Great Mov More
Posted by pete_traynor at 11:14 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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YES!YES!YES! This is fantastic news! I'm grinning form ear to ear here. I was genuinely concerned that this film wasn't going to happen. Superman Returns was a little light on action by today's standards, so what? The sequel will deliver so much more, and it'll be an even richer experience because of the character focused slant of Returns. Best film new I've heard in ages. Great. More
Posted by deenmacheen at 11:09 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| RE: Nostalgia and the plane sequence |
Yes, the plane sequence was very good, and exciting. This was 10 minutes out of a 2.5 hour movie. Not enough! The rest was dull as dishwater. I am not advocating action for action's sake, X3 style, but the leaden narrative and poor choices (again, the kid, leaving Earth, etc) severely undermined the film.
As for nostalgia - this was something people ENJOYED?!? A *bit* of nostalgia is fine, but Singer seriously screwed the pooch by just attempting to recreate Donner's Superman. The film is More
Posted by lisamoorish at 10:41 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| There definitely has to be a sequel. |
Brandon Routh and Bryan Singer did a good job with Superman Returns, but as you say, it was very bland. It lacked the action that it needed.
There was not a single fist-fight in the first one (other than at the end with the kryptonite, yes) but now we need a really BIG fist fight.
I say we have to have more of a link the DC Universe more as well. Give it more mention of other characters as Marvel are doing with The Incredibly Hulk and Iron Man.
Merely mentioning Gotham City in a newsr More
Posted by Carrzy at 10:31 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| FLASHMAN |
It was technically staggering, & hugely clever, Brandon Routh was first class and I liked the fact that Metropolis wasn't just New York, but there was a heavy all-pervading sadness and a lack of joy; for that matter, Kevin Spacey is a magnificent actor, but I found his take on Luthor very dry and mannered.
Hackman was hilarious, but layered under that was sinister menace and depth.
In the aftermath of 9/11, most films have reflected these sad uncertain times; why doesn't Superman, of More
Posted by Frank Comiskey at 10:25 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| SUPERMAN LIVES |
Don't change a thing Mr Singer, keep the cast, the costumes and the style, make another great sequel like X2. More
Posted by boredbluekoala at 10:23 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| He's Got To Work On The Characters |
Got to admit I found Returns deathly dull in the main. Saw it at the Imax first time round and was bored stoopid. Have tried to give it a couple of chances since with no improvement. I'm not the kind of cinema goer that needs wham bam every 2 seconds (It's going to take me a long time to get over the haunting brilliance that was "There Will Be Blood") but if I'm going to see something which majors on characterisation then those characters need to be compelling, not caricatures. In my o More
Posted by albumental at 10:22 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| RE: Re: |
I agree with you 100%
I thought Superman Returns was a wonderful film and think the ammount of 'action' was just right. Each of them scenes was a very iconic scene too. The saving of the plane and a chain cannon's worth of bullets bouncing off of his chest and one off the eyeball. Come on. Fantastic.
The idiots and children out there are listened to too much by these pathetic studio suits. Fuck off and let Singer do his thing. More
Posted by jimoakley666 at 10:20 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| Will give it a go |
I was one of the many that was bored by Superman Returns, for many of the reasons already mentioned (plus i didn't rate Routh). Igave it another couple of watches in case i was being unfair and i don't think i was. Apart from Kevin Spacey and teh wonderful Parker Posey it did nothing for me.
That being said i am actually looking forward to a sequel, hopefully it will go the way of X Men II and blow me away. X-men II was the first comic book/superhero movie to actually ex More
Posted by carri3ann3 at 10:14 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| Re: Oh Yeah |
Yes, I agree that it is creepy that Lois Lane knows she had a child with Superman (but does not remember how)...it basically suggests she was happy being shagged/raped by Superman and she doesn't even ask Superman for child support money (guess her lawyers did not know where the Fortress of Solitude was). More
Posted by Makman at 10:12 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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| This film is a must! |
For the Love of Christ Yes! Superman Returns was an absolutely fantastic film! And the fact that he will not apologise for giving it so much heart and asking the audience to use their brains and actually engage with one of the most important characters in popular culture instead of just assaulting us with big bangs just makes me respect Singer all the more. ‘Light on action’?!? Debatable to say the least!, With the plane rescue it delivered one of the most memorable, awe inspiring se More
Posted by pete_traynor at 10:10 on 12 March 2008 | Report This Post |
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