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Jackson Loses The Hobbit
Studio passes on Mr. LOTR...

20 November 2006  |  Written by   |  Source: TheOneRing.net

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The ongoing saga of the LOTR prequel took a massive swing into leftfield today, as it emerged that New Line – current owners of the rights to The Hobbit – have informed Peter Jackson and Wingnut Films that their services will not be needed “on the Hobbit and the LOTR 'prequel'”. In a letter to LOTR fansite TheOneRing.net, Jackson and co-writer Fran Walsh confirmed that due to an ongoing financial dispute over The Fellowship Of The Ring, New Line were now “actively looking to hire another filmmaker for both projects”.
 
Hang on a minute - both projects? Don't tell us they're working on The Silmarillion too. Well, not exactly - according to Jackson's letter, this would be a second prequel "covering the events leading up to those depicted in LOTR" and therefore, presumably, departing significantly from Tolkien's books - but hey ho.
 
“This outcome is not what we anticipated or wanted” said Wingnut. “We now have no choice but to let the idea of a film of The Hobbit go and move forward with other projects”. Bizarre. We have a feeling Ringers across the globe will have something to say about this…
 
To read the statement in full, click here.

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RE: aka Batman and Robin
You need to think about the stars who were handpicked for LotR. None of them work for the money, all of them work for the craft. More

Posted by Miksterious at 14:06 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

aka Batman and Robin
Poor showing from New Line. It was Jackson and his teams passion for the LOTR novels which resulted in there being such great films with great performances. New Line will be looking at the bottom line so will hire a director who'll cut the film like they want and i think if any of the cast return they'll do it for the money alone and not the movie maker More

Posted by Deckard** at 13:57 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Wheres the love?
L: katbirdnz I can just see it, the Hobbit directed by Paul Anderson! Starring Jim Carrey as Bilbo!!! Shot for 20 million dollars on a backlot in Bulgaria!!! ] sp; I would say it would cost £20 Million to get Carrey on his own. Dave B has a point about Jacksons cut.  There is much more to this than meets the eye and you aren't going to get the full story from a press release by one of the parties involved.   Jackson isn't the same box office gold that he was after ROT More

Posted by Flatulent_Bob at 13:52 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

Dear New Line
No, stop it. You'd hope that McKellan, Holm and Serkis would all say no when New Line start throwing money at them. But that would require actors to have a degree of integrity, so fat chance. More

Posted by khac6876 at 13:52 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Ludicrous
One of two things is going to happen.   Either New Line will push through with this quickly, in which case we will PROBABLY end up with a poor director, which will result in no returning cast members and a half-arsed script.   Or they will find that they cant get a production this size underway so quickly and the rights will end up reverting back to Saul Saentz who has already indicated that he wants PJ to do the film through MGM.   One way is potentially tremendous, More

Posted by Miksterious at 13:36 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Ludicrous
Obviously it's going to drag-on ecause of the money, but the big question is...will Orlando return as Legolas? The story takes them to his daddy's home, so we'll obviuosly hear him say, 'Father, the dwarves are coming!' and a few acrobatics at the end More

Posted by sir_sich at 13:33 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

Ludicrous
Obviously, some sour grapes over the current Financial Dispute have had a bearing on this ridiculous decision. The bottom line is, no other team of writers & director has the proven track record, is more familiar with the source material or is better at telling (and in places improving) Tolkien's story. Given what has already been achieved, how can someone else come in and reproduce that sort of quality. A change of director's almost always leads to disaster. This is a sad day for Rings fans More

Posted by Hillsman at 13:31 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!! More

Posted by easyworld at 13:27 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

So?
I only like the first one anyway, and I could never get into the books. That said, a lot of people love these movies and their source material, and Jackson proved his mettle to me as a great epic film maker with King Kong (despite remake fever). The Hobbit could be made into a great movie by another film maker, just so long as they pay heed to the aesthetic of LOTR as established by Jackson and Co. I don't like LOTR, but this other project just seems to belittle the whole thing as much as the re More

Posted by DGE Fuller at 13:14 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Wheres the love?
I've already expressed my utter disgust over in Future Films and do so again, awful awful news and if they don't backtrack and sort this shit out the amazing legacy of the LOTR trilogy and the affection and respect people all over have for it will be utterly ruined, by a bunch of moneymen c*nts in suits. Sorry for strong feelings but i'm a Kiwi so this is doubly insulting. n just see it, the Hobbit directed by Paul Anderson! Starring Jim Carrey as Bilbo!!! Shot for 20 million dollars on a ba More

Posted by katbirdnz at 13:07 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Wheres the love?
L: Dave B he problem that Jackson #003300]ng for two much money in regards to the budget=#006600]or his salary? I can understand the studio's being wary if Jackson is asking for too big a budget as his name didn't do King Kong any huge favours at the box office. Still it's a short book so surely it can't cost all that much to make?] sp; It's nothing to do with budget at all, mainly the lawsuit Jackson filed against New Line for profits from the trilogy that he believes he has n More

Posted by Dirty Hartigan at 12:52 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

No Jackson! NO AUDIENCE!!!!
Jackson has made a massive impact on the world of Tolkien. To remove Jackson from The Hobbit equation is like removing Harrison Ford from Indiana Jones. You just end up with The Young Indy Jones. Mind you, Bob Shaye took over the directorial reins of Wes Craven on the sequel to A Nightmare On Elm Street. Look what a "classic" the sequel is. BOB, CLEAR THE AIR, BE A MAN, AND GET THE REAL THING BACK ON THE PROJECT!!! THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS!!!!! More

Posted by El-Branden Brazil at 12:40 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

Oh no no no no
Oh no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no. It's the second prequel idea which worries me more. Oh no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no. More

Posted by davidpanik at 12:33 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

Who's starting the petition website to change their dumbass minds and where do I sign? More

Posted by steveg66 at 12:27 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Wheres the love?
he problem that Jackson "#003300"]ng for two much money in regards to the budget="#006600"]or his salary? I can understand the studio's being wary if Jackson is asking for too big a budget as his name didn't do King Kong any huge favours at the box office. Still it's a short book so surely it can't cost all that much to make?] More

Posted by Dave B at 12:16 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

Wheres the love?
Shocking news. The guy has the vision & the creds... A bad blow for the studio more than Jackson. Imagine a preqeuel without the same flavour & Jackson vibe... could sit totally independantly from the Big Three and be disastourous. More

Posted by mancalledpete at 12:01 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: I think it's called that... but not sure.
It will make money, but I think its a mistake because surely with Jackson comes Ian McKellen and OBVIOUSLY Andy Serkis' Gollum!!! Someone doing a bad impression?! Im not ready for that! More

Posted by UGonnaBarkAllDayDog? at 11:51 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Not With Jackson! Not with us!
]In reply to Bob, cheers for the response to the post. Your point of view is interesting, but I have to say that I differ with you here. I think there is a lot of potential for Jackson to win this game. With time Jackson's "hand” has great potential to improve as a result of the films finical difficulties. On top of this, as Empire readers are pointing out here, surely Jackson will have the backing of the LOTR's cast. It is a great shame as you rightly point out that this More

Posted by D.L. at 11:46 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

I think it's called that... but not sure.
If only the execs had the mirror of Glandriel... then they could look into the future and see what a major fuck up this idea is going to be! More

Posted by UGonnaBarkAllDayDog? at 11:43 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

Other Directors
TBH I'm quite interested to see which directors even express and interest. I mean PJ's left some massive polyurethane footprints so they're going to have to have some guts. I think that the next question now is whether WETA will still be involved I mean Richard Taylor and Jackson get on so well. As others have mentioned I think there's a great deal of loyalty to PJ in the cast and crew so we'll have to wait and see. My heart tells me that PJ still some part to play yet for good or ill. :s sorry More

Posted by balthamos at 11:40 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: I think it's called that... but not sure.
L: UGonnaBarkAllDayDog? If only the execs had the mirror of Glandriel... then they could look into the future and see what a uck up this idea is going to beuote]   Why do you think it won't make any money? More

Posted by Flatulent_Bob at 11:38 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

I think it's called that... but not sure.
If only the execs had the mirror of Glandriel... then they could look into the future and see what a major fuck up this idea is going to be! More

Posted by UGonnaBarkAllDayDog? at 11:36 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Not With Jackson! Not with us!
L: D.L. Right… Firstly I'd like to propose that Empire, as the world's best movie magazine, lso, as pointed out by Mukrause earlier this morning, the rights to The Hobbit film apparently revert back to producer Saul Saentz in 2007, which would mean that the project could then be taken by him back to Jackson. Indeed the producer has stated in a recent interview that his intension is for Jackson to direct the film (see derhobbit-film.de/indexengl.shtml).This of course would mea More

Posted by Flatulent_Bob at 11:33 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

I think it's called that... but not sure.
If only the execs had the mirror of Glandriel... then they could look into the future and see what a major fuck up this idea is going to be! More

Posted by UGonnaBarkAllDayDog? at 11:33 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Not With Jackson! Not with us!
L: D.L. Right… Firstly I'd like to propose that Empire, as the world's best movie magazine, coordinate some sort of petition to New Line to reinstate Jackson and Wingnut. As far as I'm concerned this movie should not happen without his or his company's involvement. Also, as pointed out by Mukrause earlier this morning, the rights to The Hobbit film apparently revert back to producer Saul Saentz in 2007, which would mean that the project could then be taken by him back to Jackson More

Posted by The Todge at 11:31 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: "FUCKING MORONS"
r Jackson isn't involved with this... I shall not be watching. It'll be crap. p; Did you see ngsp; More

Posted by Jasper at 11:25 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RIP The HOBBIT
I am so dissapointed with New Line for being so damn pathetic. It's not just about money, it's about making a classic movie that deserves to be made properly. I will not be going to see any Hobbit that hasn't got Peter's involvment. Can you imagine, they'll make it like Narnia, aaaahhh! Btw you can go to New line's website and email them. I think bombarding them with complaints is a start. It is a great shame that they only went there and not back again. :( More

Posted by eowyn2k at 11:25 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
I think New Line will give this one to Brett Ratner. More

Posted by Jasper at 11:24 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

I think it's called that... but not sure.
If only the execs had the mirror of Glandriel... then they could look into the future and see what a major fuck up this idea is going to be! More

Posted by UGonnaBarkAllDayDog? at 11:04 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

YOU EEEEEEIDIOTSSSSSS
My title says it all!!! More

Posted by Funk_Knight at 11:03 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: "FUCKING MORONS"
Great. The Hobbit is of my favourite stories ever, so I really can't wait until they hire someone to fuck it up.   Peter Jackson is the only director who should be allowed anywhere near Middle Earth. I bet they hire someone shot like Uwe Ball. They'd probably think it was a good idea at the time.   If Peter Jackson isn't involved with this... I shall not be watching. It'll be crap. More

Posted by AgentGoth at 10:56 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

Not With Jackson! Not with us!
Right… Firstly I’d like to propose that Empire, as the world’s best movie magazine, coordinate some sort of petition to New Line to reinstate Jackson and Wingnut. As far as I’m concerned this movie should not happen without his or his company’s involvement. Also, as pointed out by Mukrause earlier this morning, the rights to The Hobbit film apparently revert back to producer Saul Saentz in 2007, which would mean that the project could then be taken by him back to Jackson. Indeed the More

Posted by D.L. at 10:55 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

"FUCKING MORONS"
I guess we shouldn't be surprised by this, the real surprise was that we got such good movies to begin with. By the way, I'm interested if anyone can name ANY prequel that lived up to the originals? Don't worry, there are plenty of talent-free directors out there just waiting to ruin The Hobbit, More

Posted by boredbluekoala at 10:46 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Idiots.
Idiots?  The only idiots are you guys if you think this is anything more than sabre rattling. New Line want this pushed through with the law suit, wingnut are playing hardball, its all part of the corporate game. Wingnut knew the fans opinion would be with Jackson which is why they let the story out. This story has more legs in it yet.  In a few weeks/days New Line will announce that they have a director before it all falls flats because of MGM, creative differences etc.   More

Posted by Flatulent_Bob at 10:36 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Idiots.
New Line Mentality........   New Line exec 1: "I got it. We gotta make a Mask sequel" New Line exec 2: " Ain't Carrey gonna cost a bomb?" New Line exec 1: "Fuck Carrey, we don't need him".....................   New Line exec 1: "I really got it this time. Dumb and Dumber 2. New Line exec 2: "I like it, I'll get Daniels, Carrey and those Farrelly boys on  the phone" New Line exec 1: "No need, get this: We hire two unknowns and show them as kids in sc More

Posted by skeletonjack at 10:30 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Idiots.
Me neither More

Posted by Kilo_T_Mortal at 10:24 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

Idiots.
Can't think of anything else to say really. More

Posted by jpt1976 at 10:06 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

This is a very clever move by Jackson ...
to unleash the fans on New Line forcing them to resolve the law suit (whatever the outcome) so team jackson can just get on with making the movie. Hope it doesn't backfire and the suits decide to go ahead with some hack due to pride. New Line trying to blackmail Jackson was a silly move, jackson hits back the best way he can. Your move New Line! More

Posted by Rumpledink at 10:01 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

But Saul Saentz said...
...that Jackson will definitely be directing the Hobbit. He said that in an interview with the German magazine 'Cinema'. Apparently, it is just a question of waiting until the rights go back to him in 2007. (this is as of Nov 17, 2006). See the message on http://derhobbit-film.de/index.shtml. So there is hope! Michael More

Posted by mukrause at 09:54 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

But Saul Saentz said...
...that Jackson will definitely be directing the Hobbit. He said that in an interview with the German magazine 'Cinema'. Apparently, it is just a question of waiting until the rights go back to him in 2007. (this is as of Nov 17, 2006). See the message on http://derhobbit-film.de/index.shtml. So there is hope! Michael More

Posted by mukrause at 09:49 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE:
L: jasperoosterveld This is unbelievable! Jackson is LOTR and Middle Earth! What the hell is going on here, new line should be ashamed of itselfs. I hope they can still work it out in the future. But i have a great idea! Why not hire Brat Rattner! He is "awesome" in continuing sagas.......one of the best directors ever........ sp; as much as you were joking that actually hurt! lol ratner must be one of the biggest hacks in hollywood More

Posted by bupesh at 09:40 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

This is unbelievable! Jackson is LOTR and Middle Earth! What the hell is going on here, new line should be ashamed of itselfs. I hope they can still work it out in the future. But i have a great idea! Why not hire Brat Rattner! He is "awesome" in continuing sagas.......one of the best directors ever........ More

Posted by jasperoosterveld at 09:36 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

Hmm...
I'm probably one of the very few LOTR fans that wasn't actually that fussed about The Hobbit being made. Having said that, the thought of it being made without Team Jackson at the helm is beyong belief. This issue between New Line and Wingnut should have been resolved ages ago, but I wonder just who has made the biggest faux pas here - New Line or Jackson? Let's be honest, for all Jackson's brilliance, I think he can be a stubborn bastard - I wonder just how much he was truly bothered about r More

Posted by Halfling at 09:26 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: What!!!!!!
I guess this means New Line will ask Steven Sommers to stomp in and ruin a brillaint story. I would have hoped MGM had some pull and would still be pushing for Peter Jackson. More

Posted by bupesh at 09:21 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: What!!!!!!
Oh dear New Line.....   I can see this one sitting in development hell for a long time. Its gonna need to be a director with some massive balls to take this from under Jackson. More

Posted by boys_dont_cry at 09:19 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: What!!!!!!
]This has to be one of the worst business decisions a studio has in quite a while. I, too, will be interested to see what the major cast 'returnees' will have to say. This one is going to get messy if it gets made at all. Maybe they could get Joel Schumacher? More

Posted by Histeria at 09:19 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

What!!!!!!
We all would love to see the Hobbit making it on to the big screen, and without the Peter Jackson touch to it, will it be the same. I dont think any other director will want to touch this movie if he has to follow in the foot steps of jackson himself. But if someone does try to take on this task then fair play to him or her. The movie should be based on how good the story is, how fantastic it looks not on some dope sitting the whole way through it saying " Peter wouldnt have done it like More

Posted by 25/m/nerd at 09:16 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

The Hobbit
Surely the likes of Ian McKellen, Andy Serkis, Christopher Lee and possibly Ian Holm would only return if Peter Jackson returned also? Methinks New Line may have shot themselves in the foot over this one. Didn't they make enough cash from the films?! More

Posted by Timon at 09:04 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

The Hobbit
Surely the likes of Ian McKellen, Andy Serkis, Christopher Lee and possibly Ian Holm would only return if Peter Jackson returned also? Methinks New Line may have shot themselves in the foot over this one. Didn't they make enough cash from the films?! More

Posted by Timon at 09:00 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

Well 'The Hobbit' has just gone from something I was interested to see if it could be pulled of to something I honestly just plain don't give a shit about, and this LOTR prequel, is that not the Hobbit then? More

Posted by CameronJames at 08:53 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

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