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Jackson Loses The Hobbit
Studio passes on Mr. LOTR...

20 November 2006  |  Written by   |  Source: TheOneRing.net

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The ongoing saga of the LOTR prequel took a massive swing into leftfield today, as it emerged that New Line – current owners of the rights to The Hobbit – have informed Peter Jackson and Wingnut Films that their services will not be needed “on the Hobbit and the LOTR 'prequel'”. In a letter to LOTR fansite TheOneRing.net, Jackson and co-writer Fran Walsh confirmed that due to an ongoing financial dispute over The Fellowship Of The Ring, New Line were now “actively looking to hire another filmmaker for both projects”.
 
Hang on a minute - both projects? Don't tell us they're working on The Silmarillion too. Well, not exactly - according to Jackson's letter, this would be a second prequel "covering the events leading up to those depicted in LOTR" and therefore, presumably, departing significantly from Tolkien's books - but hey ho.
 
“This outcome is not what we anticipated or wanted” said Wingnut. “We now have no choice but to let the idea of a film of The Hobbit go and move forward with other projects”. Bizarre. We have a feeling Ringers across the globe will have something to say about this…
 
To read the statement in full, click here.

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Without the extraordinary vision and passion that I believe only Peter Jackson can bring to this film, the movie, no matter how good it is, in my opinion, will be only a pale comparision of what it could be. More

Posted by rsman26 at 04:50 on 07 April 2007 | Report This Post

Jackson's Out?!?!
What a bloody shame. He and his team would have done a magnificent job. No argument. We can just hope the new guy does the book proud (it's the first book I ever read!). Not sure about a second prequel though, what's that all about?! Sounds like a crappy cash in job. Almost glad PJ didn't involve himself in that one. More

Posted by WorldsFastestMilkman at 17:20 on 03 December 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
Y Times: To Web Fans, Peter Jackson Is the One True Director.rl]   SN Movies- What 'The Hobbit' Is Going On Here?rl] More

Posted by Glorfindel at 03:02 on 30 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
L: LongLiveTheKong L: aldaboss L: kennedy L: aldaboss the likes of Ian McKellen, Andy Serkis, Christopher Lee and possibly Ian Holm would only return if Peter Jackson returned also? Methinks New Line may have shot themselves in the foot over this one. Didn't they make enough cash from the films?! uch as it pains me to say this I dont think Ian Holm will be returning. I know he would love to from interviews he has done but even if this does see the light of day production More

Posted by aldaboss at 02:46 on 27 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE:
Im gutted. Its not right! More

Posted by the anomaly at 22:01 on 26 November 2006 | Report This Post

I dont believe! How could they! It wouldn't be Middle-Earth without him! New Line you evil $%^&$*£@*&%$!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! .............well at least theres going to be a Hobbit film........... More

Posted by HayaoMiyazakiRules at 19:11 on 26 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
L: aldaboss L: kennedy L: aldaboss the likes of Ian McKellen, Andy Serkis, Christopher Lee and possibly Ian Holm would only return if Peter Jackson returned also? Methinks New Line may have shot themselves in the foot over this one. Didn't they make enough cash from the films?! uch as it pains me to say this I dont think Ian Holm will be returning. I know he would love to from interviews he has done but even if this does see the light of day production wont really start till 20 More

Posted by LongLiveTheKong at 11:59 on 26 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
BC News: Mckellen 'sad' at Hobbit decision.rl] More

Posted by Glorfindel at 17:27 on 25 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
Everyone sign the petition, if you want to see a decent book to film adaptation as opposed to another Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets. More

Posted by swordsandsandals at 14:50 on 25 November 2006 | Report This Post

Jackson Loses The Hobbit
Three words to NewLine.....Nose, spite, face. More

Posted by David Webb at 14:03 on 25 November 2006 | Report This Post

Re: Hobbit hiatus
One word: Gutted. More

Posted by LillyArwen at 22:22 on 24 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
Peter Jackson Will Direct The Hobbit? Written by Robert Sanchez    Friday, 24 November 2006 In what has become a high stakes game of poker, it looks like New Line may lose it's upper hand. So what are the odds that Peter Jackson will get the chance "here and Back Again Zaentz owner of  Tolkien Enterprises has also now gone on record supporti More

Posted by Goody at 20:52 on 24 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
Who cares, at the end of the day if the moneymen don't want Peter Jackson, then so be it.   It will be interesting to see who turns down the roles offered, because you can bet there will be no saddness when the actors are receiving their multi-million pound cheques.   P.S  Don't worry Ring fans Mr Jackson will not doubt release a you can't bend it never been seen before filmed thro Golums arse version of the Trillogy.  More

Posted by Dom Vito at 20:51 on 24 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
lijah Wood is also disappointed.rl]   One thing that's not fine with him is news that a new "Hobbit" film might be made without "Lord of the Rings" director Peter Jackson.   "I haven't spoken to Peter," says Wood, who played head Hobbit Frodo in the acclaimed trilogy. "But I was very disappointed in the news. Peter Jackson is the man who worked over 10 years developing this world. Now, they might move forward on a new project with another director and it won't look or feel th More

Posted by Glorfindel at 18:02 on 24 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
L: kennedy L: aldaboss the likes of Ian McKellen, Andy Serkis, Christopher Lee and possibly Ian Holm would only return if Peter Jackson returned also? Methinks New Line may have shot themselves in the foot over this one. Didn't they make enough cash from the films?! uch as it pains me to say this I dont think Ian Holm will be returning. I know he would love to from interviews he has done but even if this does see the light of day production wont really start till 2008. Ian will be al More

Posted by aldaboss at 00:06 on 24 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
As I big Rings fan, and an admirer of PJ at that, this has got me fuming!! I signed the he Hobbit Film - The way is was meant to be or not at allrl] petition, as should every right-thinking Rings/Jackson fan!         More

Posted by Glorfindel at 23:20 on 23 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
L: yeahwhatever  The big long dissappointment that was Kong, again not that bad but just not great or even, very good.   sp; Or even mildly good. I was a big fan of the Rings trilogy and for the work Jackson put in and the end product of the three films, they maybe deserved some of their oscars imo he deserved his. I would be a bit worried about the Hobbit bing made without Jackson, not because I think he is a great director as apart from the trilogy and Heavenly Creatu More

Posted by KennyM at 21:01 on 23 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
L: yeahwhatever It does seem to be a big mess at the moment and while the desire to make money (NewLine) is strong, I predict, without Galadriel's magic mirror, that this film will be a long time coming to our screens. By which point you should have all grown out of this puerile nonsense. PJ did a good job but come on, they weren't that great, ROTK in particular was a big long dissappointment and how did he follow that? The big long dissappointment that was Kong, again not that bad but jus More

Posted by The Todge at 20:22 on 23 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
It does seem to be a big mess at the moment and while the desire to make money (NewLine) is strong, I predict, without Galadriel's magic mirror, that this film will be a long time coming to our screens. By which point you should have all grown out of this puerile nonsense. PJ did a good job but come on, they weren't that great, ROTK in particular was a big long dissappointment and how did he follow that? The big long dissappointment that was Kong, again not that bad but just not great or even, More

Posted by yeahwhatever at 15:52 on 23 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
L: kennedy Surely if anyone can be replaced then Andy Serkis can. All that's needed is someone who has the same build and can impersonate Andy's voice for the role of Gollum. If WETA Digital is taken on again ( it would be foolish not to) then I'm sure they would have work saved from the trilogy to work on for Gollum.(My knowledge in this field isn't great as you can probably tell) My memory of The Hobbit is fuzzy but Gollum isn't a main character in the boo More

Posted by Fluke Skywalker at 13:58 on 23 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
Surely if anyone can be replaced then Andy Serkis can. All that's needed is someone who has the same build and can impersonate Andy's voice for the role of Gollum. If WETA Digital is taken on again ( it would be foolish not to) then I'm sure they would have work saved from the trilogy to work on for Gollum.(My knowledge in this field isn't great as you can probably tell) My memory of The Hobbit is fuzzy but Gollum isn't a main character in the book, is he? ( More

Posted by kennedy at 13:49 on 23 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
L: kennedy L: aldaboss the likes of Ian McKellen, Andy Serkis, Christopher Lee and possibly Ian Holm would only return if Peter Jackson returned also? Methinks New Line may have shot themselves in the foot over this one. Didn't they make enough cash from the films?! uch as it pains me to say this I dont think Ian Holm will be returning. I know he would love to from interviews he has done but even if this does see the light of day production wont really start till 2008. Ian will be alm More

Posted by Fluke Skywalker at 12:55 on 23 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
L: aldaboss the likes of Ian McKellen, Andy Serkis, Christopher Lee and possibly Ian Holm would only return if Peter Jackson returned also? Methinks New Line may have shot themselves in the foot over this one. Didn't they make enough cash from the films?! uch as it pains me to say this I dont think Ian Holm will be returning. I know he would love to from interviews he has done but even if this does see the light of day production wont really start till 2008. Ian will be almost 77 then and More

Posted by kennedy at 09:22 on 23 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
dont know if that has been posted but on news.bbc.co.uk they reported that MGM have siad "the matter is far from over"....ohhhhh More

Posted by bupesh at 09:12 on 23 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
the likes of Ian McKellen, Andy Serkis, Christopher Lee and possibly Ian Holm would only return if Peter Jackson returned also? Methinks New Line may have shot themselves in the foot over this one. Didn't they make enough cash from the films?! uch as it pains me to say this I dont think Ian Holm will be returning. I know he would love to from interviews he has done but even if this does see the light of day production wont really start till 2008. Ian will be almost 77 then and in recent months. More

Posted by aldaboss at 02:38 on 23 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
Well McKellen;s come forth on his opinion.   It seems Jackson has emailed him directly regarding it.  And no doubt, he would have contacted Serkis as well.  Here it is:   www.mckellen.com/epost/lotr/061122.htmp; Just gotta wait on Serkis now.  It's all building in Jackson's favour just now.   Tho there is an unconfirmed rumour that Sam Rami has been offered the job, Id ake that with a large pinch of salt tho.     More

Posted by The Todge at 02:00 on 23 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
L: *Cinecism* All in all, I think it's a bad move...but I'm not ruling out it could be good. Yeah we have no way of knowing whether further films will be be worse without Jackson but there is one thing set in stone - that Jackson made Middle Earth work in a way few could have imagined in terms of commercial and critical success. The chances of Jackson failing to make The Hobbit and any prequel a success surely have to be much slimmer than handing the project to someone witho More

Posted by Fluke Skywalker at 18:06 on 22 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
the likes of Ian McKellen, Andy Serkis, Christopher Lee and possibly Ian Holm would only return if Peter Jackson returned also? Methinks New Line may have shot themselves in the foot over this one. Didn't they make enough cash from the films?! p; If I were them, I'd return...   I'm sure somebody else could direct the Hobbit pretty well...however, I'd feel an awful lot more comfortable if it was still in PJ's hands. I trust him to do a pretty decent adaption...   I'd be a lot More

Posted by *Cinecism* at 17:51 on 22 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE:
The situation is that Jackson thinks he is owed more from merchandising/ computer games etc. while New Line do not. Jackson has said that he is willing for someone completely independant to review the case and he will fully accept the judgement whether he wins or loses. It seems to me you can't say fairer than that More

Posted by Fluke Skywalker at 17:14 on 22 November 2006 | Report This Post

Note to New Line: Are you trying to answer one of the most important question in film making, as in how to make a movie flop? I'll answer it for you. Change the director to the prequel of a Masterpiece! More

Posted by 1587sandy at 10:43 on 22 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: We have a feeling Ringers across the globe will have something to say about this…
the ,more i think about it the more it gets on my tits More

Posted by danbo1138 at 01:52 on 22 November 2006 | Report This Post

We have a feeling Ringers across the globe will have something to say about this…
too right we are going to have something to say about this!! "The Hobbit" without Peter Jacksons crew? Impossible! The reason why I fell in love with TLOTR books is because of PJs films, how can Peter Jackson NOT direct it? More

Posted by Isawien at 22:19 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

You cannot be serious!
Peter Jackson is the only director that can bring The Hobbit to the screen successfully. He worked wonders with LOTR and I find it difficult to believe that they don't want to keep the same atmosphere and styles that he and WETA brought to LOTR for The Hobbit. Surely it won't be half as good. It will certainly be shorter!!!! More

Posted by jonedney at 20:46 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

...
Seriously? More

Posted by gemsev at 20:43 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

Studio Suicide
The Hobbit without Jackson is like an Alien Film without weaver.....and what did we get? AVP....think about it New Line. I personally will not go to see a version of the Hobbit that is made by anyone other than Jackson and I don't think i'm the only one. The boycot starts here :-( More

Posted by Dave_25 at 20:22 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: I think it's called that... but not sure.
The One Ring.net has produced a list of contacts and also features the list of petitions should anybody want to do anything.   www.theonering.net/perl/newsview/8/1164129588 More

Posted by The Todge at 19:26 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: I think it's called that... but not sure.
L: The2ndRing L: tbird I can't imagine this with anyone else but Jackson at the helm. Seems a shame. But then, what do I know? It might turn out to be an amazing film! But it won't, Jackson and Weta etc charcacterised the films, and without them it will just pale in comparison sp; I personally agree with you, but I'm trying not to write off an adaptation without Jackson completely, even if I can't imagine it at all for the moment. More

Posted by tbird at 15:53 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: The Hobbit
L: kingoftheducks Well, let's just accept the fact that New Line are going to hire a hack and get this made... here's how I see it... The Hobbit (Directed by Uwe Boll, "I base it on computer game, yes?") Starring Ashton Kutcher as Bilbo Baggins, SIR Ben Kingsley as SIR Gandalf the Grey and Stephen Dorff as Gollum, with special dragon effects cut-n-pasted from 'Dungeons & Dragons', featuring the hit single 'Ho'-Bbitch' by 50 Cent. I can't wait! amn! Whens this out a More

Posted by damn im good! at 15:25 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

Where does the blame really lie?
There seems to be a fair amount of flak in the direction of New Line here and a lot of sympathy for PJ. I think we should step back and look at what is really goin on here. Pre-LOTR, PJ was completely untried in films of this scale, and nobody wanted to know about his crazy idea to make 2 LOTR films. It was New Line who made the visionary decision to back PJ and go for 3 films with a gargantuan budget. The rest is history and PJ has become a very wealthy individual off the back of New Line's More

Posted by PhilMul at 14:22 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: The Hobbit
Well MGM have responded at least in part:   Who's the boss of "The Hobbit"? This question has been growing more heated in recent weeks as the principal parties involved in the film -- New Line, MGM and director Peter Jackson -- have been duking it out, each staking their claim as a key player in "The Hobbit" along with a prequel to "The Lord of the Rings." Behind the jostling is the fact that while New Line owns the rights to produce the pic, MGM owns the distribution rights and More

Posted by The Todge at 14:19 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: The Hobbit
L: kingoftheducks Well, let's just accept the fact that New Line are going to hire a hack and get this made... here's how I see it... The Hobbit (Directed by Uwe Boll, "I base it on computer game, yes?") Starring Ashton Kutcher as Bilbo Baggins, SIR Ben Kingsley as SIR Gandalf the Grey and Stephen Dorff as Gollum, with special dragon effects cut-n-pasted from 'Dungeons & Dragons', featuring the hit single 'Ho'-Bbitch' by 50 Cent. I can't wait! just too likely...New More

Posted by Cuchulainn at 14:15 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

The power of the Ring?
And I thought that the magic of the Ring was just a figment of Tolkien's imagination...OOOPPSS! Looks like we have another Smeagol down the (New)line! Hugs from Lisbon Portugal Maria Silva More

Posted by mariasilva at 14:00 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

I really hope this sucks big time now...
I was REALLY looking forward to the Hobbit by PJ. Now it seems New Line have shafted the team that put them in the big league, I really hope that all the LOTR cast which New Line might want back tell them to shove it where the sun don't shine. It's a real shame that this franchise was so successful because it was made by passionate, creative people who aren't part of the usual Hollywood system and now looks to be ruined by greedy studio execs... More

Posted by sking79uk at 13:56 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!
Peter Jackson and CO are the reason this trilogy was so successful! New Line should work things out with them, these two movies will bring in another $2 billion or more! More

Posted by Ti at 13:49 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: I think it's called that... but not sure.
L: tbird I can't imagine this with anyone else but Jackson at the helm. Seems a shame. But then, what do I know? It might turn out to be an amazing film! sp; But it won't, Jackson and Weta etc charcacterised the films, and without them it will just pale in comparison More

Posted by The2ndRing at 13:15 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: I think it's called that... but not sure.
I can't imagine this with anyone else but Jackson at the helm.   Seems a shame.   But then, what do I know? It might turn out to be an amazing film! More

Posted by tbird at 12:25 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: I think it's called that... but not sure.
Crazy, just crazy by New Line tbh. More

Posted by Indiana Jones at 12:22 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: The Hobbit
Well, let's just accept the fact that New Line are going to hire a hack and get this made... here's how I see it... The Hobbit (Directed by Uwe Boll, "I base it on computer game, yes?") Starring Ashton Kutcher as Bilbo Baggins, SIR Ben Kingsley as SIR Gandalf the Grey and Stephen Dorff as Gollum, with special dragon effects cut-n-pasted from 'Dungeons & Dragons', featuring the hit single 'Ho'-Bbitch' by 50 Cent. I can't wait! More

Posted by kingoftheducks at 11:52 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

Actors returning
Dont mean to put alot of num nuts in there place here.......but haven't a shit load of the cast of all the movies returned to do voices in so many of the fantastic LOTR games.........surley there doing it for the money and the fans, So if Jackson doesnt turn up for The hobbit I've got a good feeling that Ian, Lee, Hugo and Cate will all turn up seeing that there all together doing the White council game for EA and i'm pretty sure Peter aint holding there hands. Whats that Barbie? More

Posted by 25/m/nerd at 11:47 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: The Hobbit
L: Flatulent_Bob A lot of new posters seems to be appearing on these threads.  I think Wingnuts propoganda drive is kicking in. sp; More

Posted by Fluke Skywalker at 11:44 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: The Hobbit
A lot of new posters seems to be appearing on these threads.  I think Wingnuts propoganda drive is kicking in. More

Posted by Flatulent_Bob at 11:33 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: The Hobbit
L: Timon Surely the likes of Ian McKellen, Andy Serkis, Christopher Lee and possibly Ian Holm would only return if Peter Jackson returned also? Methinks New Line may have shot themselves in the foot over this one. Didn't they make enough cash from the films?! sp; I think Andy Serkis is definitely the one they need, and the one they won't get, ahhh gaaad Gollum will just be so crap.  More

Posted by The2ndRing at 11:29 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: It won't be the same!
I really doubt any of the main cast will want to come back for this, although I suppose it is something we'll just have to wait and see.  Don'tbe surprised if some point down the line Jackson makes his own version.  More

Posted by The2ndRing at 11:26 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

It won't be the same!
Peter Jackson dealt with LOTR spectacularly and I'm saying that as a HUGE fan of the books. He made me love the films without spoiling the books for me. Middleearth is now his land! How could they take it away from him?! How can another director possibly create Middleearth as well as Peter Jackson did without copying his ideas? It's ludicrous!!! More

Posted by clare at 11:13 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: New Line----yooo suuuckk !!!!
L: Miksterious hey'll probably speak to all of the original cast first, who will likely reject the ideae] need to think about the stars who were handpicked for LotR. None of them work for the money, all of them work for the crafthappy07.gif] The deluded fanboys and fangirls. I think you are expecting rather too much of these actors if you think they would refuse on principle. Bloom, Christopher Lee, John Rhys-Davies, Austin, Wood  thats just off the top of my head More

Posted by Flatulent_Bob at 11:01 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

I think 25/m/nerd is right...
... that another director might do a very good, if not better job. I think Peter Jackson is a genius when it comes to the visualisation of middle earth, but I find his cutting quite awkward, expecially in The Return of the King. Sudden jumps and anticlimaxes. For example, why let the witchking shrink and then not let us dwell a little bit? No comparison with the drama and eeriness of that scene in the book. So many things could have been much darker and with more suspense. The ironic laugh that More

Posted by mukrause at 09:43 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

Give it up fan boys
Look i loved LOTR and would love to see Jackson make the hobbit. But if he is not to return to this then why not instead of blasting the movie even before anyone has been confrim to directed it, give it a fucking chance. Lucas came back to do the star wars perqeuls and look how that bag of dog crap turned out. So come off your peter jackson is god stools and give some new blood a chance. We all know what Jackson's take on Toilken is why not give some one a go to take what he's done and add th More

Posted by 25/m/nerd at 08:40 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

Brett Ratner must have been sat by the phone...
... for the last week straight without a single minute of sleep.   "Why don't it ring? Why don't it ring? Why won't it ring?"   It rings.   It's his agent.   "Because you're the man who gave the world Chris Tucker and kills other people's franchises." More

Posted by keyzersaulsie at 07:53 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: New Line----yooo suuuckk !!!!
As I see it, there are two possibilities.   1. New Line are so desperate to hang on to this they do an "X3" and hire a hack to get it moving and deliver a crapfest.   2.  None of the cast from LOTR decide to return out of loyalty to Jackson, no high profile directors want to touch it and the rights slip away.  By which time Jackson is getting through The Lovely Bones and MGM snap up the rights and everythings back on track again.   Course theres always the p More

Posted by The Todge at 02:09 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

Jackon's a genius
And I have great confidence we'll see him back on these movies in the next few months. This is letter addressed to New Line, not the fans. They tried to play tough, so he acted accordingly. Hes basically just given them bad press for 2 films that aren't even green-lit yet, and managed to present himself as the victim. No doubt New Line weren't planning on announcing any of this untlil the new director(s) were in place. Jackson's ruined that noe, given them some bad press, given himself some g More

Posted by Andrew Hauser at 02:09 on 21 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: New Line----yooo suuuckk !!!!
It wont be done guys, rest assured.   There is no way that New Line can put all these wheels in motion to any great extent before they lose the rights to the film. They'll dally around looking for a director and a vision and cast and they'll probably speak to all of the original cast first, who will likely reject the idea meaning that they'll have to start re-casting. Directors dont particularly like working in that way. They'll need new script-writers etc etc. This will stay in develo More

Posted by Miksterious at 23:45 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

Er, A Further Thought Occurs
.....And when it goes tits up, (and it will) I hope they fire your talentless fuckin asses. More

Posted by boredbluekoala at 23:44 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

New Line----yooo suuuckk !!!!
Look, we all know that an unrivalled trilogy of films that took billions at the box office, was loved by critics and the public alike and garnered dozens of awards including the Oscar for best picture, is no reason to rehire the Geniuses behind it all. No what we really want is a cheap rush job with none of the Talents that made the originals, oh and if you could film it somewhere other than New Zealand for extra insult that would be just peachy, Pricks More

Posted by boredbluekoala at 23:37 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
The fools More

Posted by BondVsPredator at 23:17 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Hmmm
Well a first petition is up from some of the fans who post on TheOneRing.net   www.ipetitions.com/petition/aintnohobbitwithoutPJ/index .htmlp; However I think the admin guys at that site are planning something official too, it was them that sent the petition that got a response from MGM initially, so if anybody's gonna get noticed, it's them.   Keep yer eyes peeled. More

Posted by The Todge at 23:16 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

Hmmm
Whilst I am gutted for PJ & love the LOTR movies, I'm kind of glad he's no longer doing it! As was mentioned before, who's gonna want to follow in those Kong sized footsteps? I can't help feeling that Rings was a one time thing & don't want The Hobbit to be made. PJ would HAVE to get Ian Holm in it & (no offence Mr Holm) he's getting a bit old to be leaping about. They should leave well enough alone & not make it! Look what happened when a certain MR G Lucas tried to do prequels. More

Posted by Tenacious P at 22:58 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
ldaboss, good to see someone from the old WTME forum still knocking about p; I can only echo earlier sentiments, Jackson carries with him him not only the directorial skill, but also a  whole host of other factors, namely the production crew, and the support of actors such as McKellan and Serkis.  I wouldn't rule out Jackson possibly returning to the frame, but things are looking increasingly bleak.  New Line's response will be telling. More

Posted by Lego_boy at 22:56 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

Right here we go again...last time now.
Peter Jackson is one of the most versatile and talented directors weve ever had. Period.Whilst i agree that he gave LOTR its legs to walk on, ultimately despite its being Jacksons view of Middle Earth hes always stated that, middle earth itself was never his, it was Tolkiens. So why not let the guy move onto better bigger things. There are plently of other directors out there who can deliver an equally fantastic view of Middle Earth, look at these prospects for director- Riddley Scott, Guill More

Posted by Bad_Mofo at 22:47 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
I for one was getting a bit annoyed by all this legal bla bla that was surrounding the hobbit of late but this is has royally pissed me off. Jackson and his team brought to life an amazing saga and without him I have huge doubts. The Hobbit from the minute it was announced was always gonna have an issue with living up to expectations. The only one I can see meeting those is PJ. He has been there and done that. He kows the worl and how to bring it to life. For me......Its pj or no one. Im n More

Posted by aldaboss at 22:36 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
Twats.   Has someone alerted rottentomatoes.com already? Because I really feel they should get their laptops ready....     More

Posted by closet heroine at 21:18 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
L: Anglachel If that is true::: Just great news.b]The Hobbitfav Tolkien book, well, if I can choose only one as a favorite. The Hobbit is too great and it has no need to change anything. An PJ and crew changed many things, and I hated that. Good to have another choice to make a great /b] movie based on Tolkien book!!!!!! sp; And you really think whoever takes charge of The Hobbit won't change anything?  That's why they call it an adaptation.   Fuck sakes. More

Posted by The Todge at 20:43 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Phew!
L: Mad Dog Tannen The world is spared another two boring movies from Empire's most overrated director. With literally zero negative perspective to counter-balance the adoration, Empire's worship of Jackson is tiresome in the extreme, and disappointing, too. sp; Agreed. More

Posted by Tech_Noir at 19:40 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE:
Hooray! Does this mean it might be under two hours long?  More

Posted by UTB at 19:38 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

no jackson = no mckellan, no sirkis, no blanchett, no lee, no weaving = no punters watching this film More

Posted by nickcentre12 at 19:32 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

The power of Jackson
What's going on with Peter Jackson? Didn't King Kong make enough cash for the money men? First Halo dies on it's arse now Mr Jackson has lost the Hobbit too. What exactly is going on behind the scenes? Strange things are afoot at the Circle K..... More

Posted by monkeyman1976 at 19:27 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

New Line took a chance and were incredibly visionary in financing the production of the LOTRs films. However, they seem to be following a familiar path of studios who believe their own hype and power and I can only imagine that this will be a decision they learn to regret. I would have loved to see Wingnut make The Hobbit - at the moment I can't imagine anyone else directing it (or want to take over the mantle for that matter - a v. hard act to follow). However, having said that, I remember t More

Posted by Tig at 19:23 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

there's NO WAY The Hobbit will live up to the expectations of the public. And now that Jackson isn't involved........ More

Posted by Hughezy at 18:44 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

What is going on???
New line cinema have taken it too far. You know that now they'll place a spineless hack in charge, who'll make a couple of shite, commercially focussed films.(notice difference between xmen 2 and 3?) Secondly, where is the clear distinct narrative between the hobbit and the lotr? If Tolkien didn't write it, then new line shouldn't 'put it together'. Tolkien has tales for that time, but not a coherent films worth. Any director with any human qualities shouldn't touch this project now. More

Posted by daveistheone at 18:43 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE:
L: earthivory This cant be right, surely they can't make any LOTR prequel without the visionary who brought the Trilogy to life!!! hat visionary?? For sure you have to be talking about Tolkien: the author and creator of LOTR. There is no need of another  visionary anyway , everythin is on the book More

Posted by Anglachel at 18:42 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
If that is true::: Just great news.b]The Hobbitfav Tolkien book, well, if I can choose only one as a favorite. The Hobbit is too great and it has no need to change anything. An PJ and crew changed many things, and I hated that. Good to have another choice to make a great /b] movie based on Tolkien book!!!!!! More

Posted by Anglachel at 18:40 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

Right here is exactly why this is a good thing...
Peter Jackson is one of the most versatile and talented directors weve ever had. Period.Whilst i agree that he gave LOTR its legs to walk on, ultimately despite its being Jacksons view of Middle Earth hes always stated that, middle earth itself was never his, it was Tolkiens. So why not let the guy move onto better bigger things. There are plently of other directors out there who can deliver an equally fantastic view of Middle Earth, look at these prospects for director- Riddley Scott, Guille More

Posted by Bad_Mofo at 18:36 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

yet another film to lose what could of made it brilliant, and instead become another money makeing pointless se/prequel More

Posted by steve_flow at 18:07 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

This cant be right, surely they can't make any LOTR prequel without the visionary who brought the Trilogy to life!!! More

Posted by earthivory at 18:04 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Another Prequel with no soul
L: saint mark They are nuts doing the Hobbit without the soul of Jackson who gave LOTR the soul and legs to walk on. We get now the Hobbit as a two parter doen by somebody who doesn't really care with generic CGI. his time not about the story but about the bucks. To bad that New Linae has chosen for the bucks instead of the artistic value that a person like Jackson & Co adds. ick to the book instead and get an illigal copy to watch it if ever. the extra book was ok when Ja More

Posted by Flatulent_Bob at 17:47 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

Whats more
I bet the principle actors who played characters that appear in all the books won't return either. More

Posted by Steve L at 17:41 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

Ruin the Continuinity
bad bad move by New Line....i guess the accountants as usual have the final say. More

Posted by Steve L at 17:38 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

Woo, the best thing today, buiilds up from overrated Bond, why does everyone love that? Oh well, we are saved from another 6-7 hours of torture, maybe Jackson can go off and do something like The Frightners again, you know, something good. More

Posted by Ethanial at 17:34 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

WHAT!
its ridiculus that any1 cud even think of making the hobbit without Jackson. surely with the trilogy doing so wel the 1st thing theyd do wud bring him bak for the hobbit. it was 1 of the most highly anticipated films for me over the next few years but i am now not sure whther 2 look 4ward 2 it at al. More

Posted by Cloud Wolf at 17:02 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

Phew!
The world is spared another two boring movies from Empire's most overrated director. With literally zero negative perspective to counter-balance the adoration, Empire's worship of Jackson is tiresome in the extreme, and disappointing, too. More

Posted by Mad Dog Tannen at 16:56 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: Jackson Loses The Hobbit
]The loss of Jackson is not big especially when you consider he would probably turn all the dwarfs into comic relief buffonery. One Jackson Gimli was more than enough. ]  ]However making two films out of the bitraps of information is indeed stupid. More

Posted by directorscut at 16:34 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: aka Batman and Robin
L: Johnny Pneumonia Totally right. Besides, this is clearly never going to happen without the original cast, which wont happen without Jackson, Weta etc. As Bob said, its just the suits playing hardball. sp; ]Seems the ball is 100% in MGM's court. PJ won't make the movie without the lawsuit settled. New Line don't have time to settle the lawsuit before The Hobbit needs to go into production before they lose the rights to it the Tolkein properties. If MGM want to do it now, it happens with More

Posted by Histeria at 16:28 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

Another Prequel with no soul
They are nuts doing the Hobbit without the soul of Jackson who gave LOTR the soul and legs to walk on. We get now the Hobbit as a two parter doen by somebody who doesn't really care with generic CGI. It is this time not about the story but about the bucks. To bad that New Linae has chosen for the bucks instead of the artistic value that a person like Jackson & Co adds. I'll stick to the book instead and get an illigal copy to watch it if ever. More

Posted by saint mark at 16:11 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

What the f**k?
Peter Jackson and his crew are why LOTRS is what is is. How on earth they could give this film to someone else confuses me and many others i expect. If Peter Jacksaon can't make The Hobbit it should'nt be made and I wont go and see it. More

Posted by adamdavidsmith at 16:05 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: aka Batman and Robin
L: Flatulent_Bob I think New Line are getting a real bad rap here and it is all totally unfair. Making Lord of the Rings was a massive project and New Line took the risk when no one else was interested. They were the only ones who stood to lose anything.  Fellowship alone cost £93 Million which is a massive budget for a fanstasy film and they had already committed to £160 Million minimum for the other two which I believe was increased. Thats a massive commitment from the studio More

Posted by Johnny Pneumonia at 16:04 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: NO PJ = no viewers,
There's obviously more to this than we're being told and we#'ll probably never get the full story, the jist of it is enough tho. Basically New Line want to pressure Jackson into making The Hobbit is what I took from it.  They are in effect saying "Ok we'll settle up, but we're handcuffing you to the films."  That, whatever way you look at it, is bullshit.  That doesn't imply that Jackson has any creative control over the project and to make a film to settle a lawsuit is not More

Posted by The Todge at 15:02 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

NO PJ = no viewers,
IM SORRY but i will not watch this movie if PJ is not directing and meny others will feel the same..if the actors had any sense (not saying they dont) they will not do this movie without PJ aswell. were would this movie really end up if IAN HOLM, ian mckellen, Andy Serkis. & any 1 else who was involved in the LOTR'ssay no to this movie. it would be pointles then. let PJ do this or let it be just a dream for us LOTR die hards. Bcos i cant bear to think of another director TRYing to capture t More

Posted by DeadCell79 at 14:29 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

what's all the fuss about?
The Hobbit is just another film about people walking somewhere - instead of fighting evil, you've got a Hobbit, a wizard and some dwarfs (or should that be drarves? any geeks out there who know and/or care?) trying to steal some gold off a dragon. With Peter Jackson in charge all you'll get is a LOTRs clone - a similar story, the same or similar actors/charactors, similar or the same special effects and a whole load of pointless special editions and extended edition DVDs being released 12 month More

Posted by patcurley81 at 14:21 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE:
L: rams Who wants to bet they will put Brett Ratner on this? They better be bringing Ian Mackellen back,and what's with this "other"prequel that ties in to LOTR?If Tolkien didn't wrote it they shouldn't be doing it.If they do it than soon we will have sequels to the Return of the King,which is bad because It was intended to be the end of Tolkien's Universe. ctually,arted work on a 'sequel' to d Of The Ringss publishers,but finally gave up as old age and his grief after the death of his More

Posted by Cuchulainn at 14:12 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

RE: aka Batman and Robin
L: Deckard** Poor showing from New Line. It was Jackson and his teams passion for the LOTR novels which resulted in there being such great films with great performances. New Line will be looking at the bottom line so will hire a director who'll cut the film like they want and i think if any of the cast return they'll do it for the money alone and not the movie maker sp; I think New Line are getting a real bad rap here and it is all totally unfair. Making Lord of the Rings was a ma More

Posted by Flatulent_Bob at 14:11 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

Who wants to bet they will put Brett Ratner on this? They better be bringing Ian Mackellen back,and what's with this "other"prequel that ties in to LOTR?If Tolkien didn't wrote it they shouldn't be doing it.If they do it than soon we will have sequels to the Return of the King,which is bad because It was intended to be the end of Tolkien's Universe. More

Posted by rams at 14:08 on 20 November 2006 | Report This Post

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