More Venom For Marvel Gary Ross to direct Spidey spin-off Source: Variety
Those pesky hardcore Spider-Man fans lobbied and cajoled for evil-spidey Venom to appear in Spider-Man 3. And when he did, everyone complained he was there. Chuh, you can't please anyone nowadays.
The main issue, of course, was a too-many-villains problem that meant the alien symbiote felt crowbarred into a plot that didn't need him; a problem that producer Avi Arad and writer/director Gary Ross hope will be rectified when Venom gets his own film.
Ross, who is currently re-writing Jamie Vanderbilt and David Lindsay-Abaire's Spider-Man 4 script, will get to work shortly. The project stays with Spider-studio Columbia, who retain the rights to the Spider-universe despite Disney's Marvel takeover, as long as the films keep coming.
Apologies to all those sick to death of this word, but here it is again: reboot. It sounds as if this new film won't necessarily follow the continuity set up in Spidey 3, and it seems unlikely that Topher Grace (who signed up for Predators yesterday) will be back in the black costume. What we're apparently looking at is a repositioning of the character as "an antihero who becomes a defender of the innocent." Quite how a parasitic alien organism that drives its hosts mental can be made a defender of the innocent remains to be seen. But then he seems positively tame when compared to the other evil-Spidey Carnage, so maybe it'll be a lesser-of-two-evils deal. Some people handle the symbiote better than others...
What do we think? Can Venom hold his own in a Spidey-free movie? And do we want him as a good guy?
L: Marwood
In 3, the symbiote bonded with Eddie Brock Jnr. How about having any remains of it bond with Eddie Brock Snr who more closely resembles (physically and character wise) the original Eddie Brock from the comics? Venom's motivation was revenge against Spider-Man/Peter in the comics and having the father out to avenge the son is a nice twist and good way to incorporate the revenge angle much better than "he got me fired and stole my girl!" from Topher Grace.
Christ, how hard is ... Read More
Spidey vs Venom is a good idea badly executed. That goes without saying. Venom on his own is just a flat-out bad idea. It's like the Hulk without the heart, and the Hulk films were pretty bad, so this will be even worse. ... Read More
This is the geekiest message board I've ever seen in my life. Dear god. You should all be ashamed. Anyway, I love spider-man. When I say the movie was coming out, I got excited just like you. Loved the movie. Spiderman 2 - loved it even more. Spiderman 3 was excruciatingly bad, and to this day I still want those three hours of my life back. Can't we just forget that it ever happened?
As far as a Venom movie is concerned, the words 'horse'. 'flogging', 'dead' and 'a' come to mind. Rearrange th... Read More
I'd definitely like a standalone Venom flick. Not with Topher Grace in the lead obviously, I like him as an actor, funny on That 70s Show, good in Traffic and in Good Company. But of course he was horribly miscast for Spidey 3 (with a poorly written character added). ... Read More
Just admit failure and remake Spiderman 3. There was more wrong with it than just the inclusion of Venom. In my opinion they should have just used the Goblin jnr/Sandman set up and kept the brock storyline brewing and building with tension. Then the ending of the film should have been the creation of Venom, as a cliffhanger to the 4th film all of his own.
Other things wrong with Spidey 3:
1. The effects. It felt, and looked like, I was watching a computer game at times. Case in point; ... Read More
As per usual I have a suggestion for how to do this. My level of ignorance of the source material will shine through, but it's all about telling a story, and the source material is always there for people to then go to if the film appeals(and still there for the people who want 18 rated stuff from this kind of film and are never gonna get it due to the cost of such movies).
Firstly, TDK demonstrated just how dark a 12 rated film can be made to feel, suggesting much darker things than ever ... Read More
Yup sowasred2012 is bang on the money. Eddie Brock's Venom was not the out an out psycho like so many people seem to think he was. However he did despise Peter Parker and Spiderman and this often made him forget himself, sometimes using innocents to get Spidey's attention. However he frequently found himself fighting alongside heroic characters for the side of good - see Tooth and Claw when he grudgingly worked with Wolverine or the obvious example of Maximum Carnage. The whole L... Read More
@shinysavage
Oh I thought about it, don't you worry - the guy was vaporised, you watch it and you'll definitely see that nobody swung out of it (pretty sure there's even a Doc Manhattan style flash of skeleton in there). I'm also aware of the inconsistency in Harry walking away from a similar attack with only a few facial scars (that healed pretty darn quickly), and it does nothing except make me angrier about the way Venom was treated in that movie.
Venom, at least while Eddie Brock ... Read More
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