Film synopsis To complete their quest to Erebor, Bilbo (Freeman) and the dwarves must pick their way through a phantasmal forest, navigate raging rapids and escape the clutches of Lake-town's corrupt Master (Fry). Then there's the small matter of a dragon...
Being such a massive LOTR fan and someone who is indecently excited for the new Hobbit film, I feeI should have had more to say in this thread. The discussion on this page raises good points both for and against the new films but in the end I'm obviously in favour of how they've worked out. Well, how the first one worked out at least. There's still a chance it could all go wrong next week More
Fair enough Alistair and AxlReznor, thanks for not biting my head off, I can see there's a lot of Hobbit love in this thread and my earlier post may have been a bit over the top. I wish I was excited about this film like you all are!! More
Great post, Dpp1978. Some genuinely great discussion going on in this thread. Love it!
I see that Empire have given Desolation 5/5, which is great news. I'm looking to book tickets (in 2D) for Friday, but Odeon haven't released their 2D schedule yet (come on!!). More
I'd always assumed that Tolkien realised The Hobbit didn't really fit in with the rest of his Middle-earth stories and wrote all of this material with the intention of providing context to that story so it doesn't feel so out of place, and if he'd written The Hobbit later all of that would have been incorporated into the book. So I just see it as Peter Jackson doing what Tolkien never got a chance to do, but would have done if he could. Of course that could just be my own More
Like Ali and Axl have stated, Gandalf is always going off here and there in the book and it needs to explained in film (a la the appendixes). A lot of things are quickly glossed over in the book, so PJ just embellishes them.
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I'd always assumed that Tolkien realised The Hobbit didn't really fit in with the rest of his Middle-earth stories and wrote all of this material with the intention of providing context to that story so it doesn't feel so out of place, and if he'd written The Hobbit later all of that would have been incorporated into the book. So I just see it as Peter Jackson doing what Tolkien never got a chance to do, but would have done if he could. Of course that could just be my own way of justifying it t More
Good points, well made. I understand where you're coming from, and you're right.
I think the best way to view these Hobbit films is to think of them as the prequels to The Lord of the Rings films, not as a straight adaption of the book. I see your point, Dr Lenera, but I can also entirely understand Peter Jackson's approach. There are confusing aspects to the LOTR film trilogy that Jackson couldn't possibly flesh out in those films, so a lot of background stuff in the Hobbit trilogy (that More
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I guess I'm the only one who thinks this looks really poor, even weaker than the first one. Jackson and co. really seem to be making up and adding shit as they to along to justify having three films. For a start Legolas, what the fuck is he doing in it,except to sell more tickets? Going by what I've seen and heard, about half of this movie wasn't in the book. Jackson, you're pissing on Tolkien, and this is coming from someone who adored his LOTR.
Hah that's a good one, next you'll tell me the White Hand of Saruman is a giant hand running about the place
Question: How come Radagast is able to see the Witch King in Dol Guldur? I thought that was only possible when the One Ring is placed upon someone's finger and they enter the 'shadow world'?
es it's a wraith ring, that's entirely the point. And I don't know since in the ROTK book he takes his cloak off and his head is invisible with just a crown sat on top. If th More