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RE: Chelsea Thread - 27/11/2012 6:25:37 PM   
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And no, RDM has done a fine job... I would have stuck by him until the end of the season... friggin hell, we are due a baron season anyway and he deserved better.


Really, I think "live by the sword die by the sword" was quite apt for RDM.

He wasn't too shy to step into AVBs shoes when the players were behaving totally unacceptably, parking round the corner so that they would be a minute late for training etc etc, and then in walks RDM and everyones happy.
He deserves what he got, and was incredibly lucky to get the gig in the first place nevermind keep it for this season.

Where did you finish in the end? 6th?
Out of his 11 league games he only picked up 5 wins, against Stoke, Villa, Wigan, QPR and a relegated Blackburn it's hardly sparkling.
Lucky to keep the job on the back of a fortunate cup win and it was clear they didn't want to give it him.


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RE: Chelsea Thread - 28/11/2012 11:17:19 AM   
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I'm pretty certain I heard somewhere that Clattenburg is a trainee lawyer.


He was an electrician last I heard.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 28/11/2012 2:24:34 PM   
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How do you know he hates Chelsea? Because he made comments about their fans a few years ago when managing a rival club? That's hardly evidence that he hates Chelsea, just that he was trying to endear himself to Liverpool fans.


It's just a feeling... he hates us, I just know it!!

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So you think it's fine that Chelsea are on the verge of going out of the CL group stage?



Nope, but we aren't out quite yet and sometimes these thing happen... we are in a transitional phase.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 28/11/2012 2:26:38 PM   
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Where did you finish in the end? 6th?
Out of his 11 league games he only picked up 5 wins, against Stoke, Villa, Wigan, QPR and a relegated Blackburn it's hardly sparkling.
Lucky to keep the job on the back of a fortunate cup win and it was clear they didn't want to give it him.


We were hardly having a disaster league wise though.. RDM staying would have been better than RB, I am certain of it.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 28/11/2012 2:46:22 PM   
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Where did you finish in the end? 6th?
Out of his 11 league games he only picked up 5 wins, against Stoke, Villa, Wigan, QPR and a relegated Blackburn it's hardly sparkling.
Lucky to keep the job on the back of a fortunate cup win and it was clear they didn't want to give it him.


We were hardly having a disaster league wise though.. RDM staying would have been better than RB, I am certain of it.


Erm, i dunno Sinatra. I tell you what, why don't we give the 'fat Spanish waiter' a chance? You never know he might be able to rustle up some class a grub!

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 28/11/2012 2:50:13 PM   
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RE: Chelsea Thread - 28/11/2012 9:40:41 PM   
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Chelsea looking a completely different proposition under Rafa, who's really turned them around.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 28/11/2012 9:49:43 PM   
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Chelsea looking a completely different proposition under Rafa, who's really turned them around.

Two home games. No goals. Fulham games have generally always been tight but sounds like it was a thriller!

Back to the booing issue, I agree it doesn't help the players but they know it's not aimed at them. And it is a way of venting your frustrations with something you disagree with. I don't see how you would aim a chant or song at RA and it just wouldn't happen. So aim it at the guy that no Chelsea fan wants and no other club has wanted in nearly two years of being out of work.

There's a rumour that RA had a meeting with a handful of member fans before the game against City where the fans said how upset they were with RDM being sacked and Rafa being appointed. RA apparently listened to all their views and gave answers through a translator. Not sure about that if I'm honest...

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 28/11/2012 10:03:44 PM   
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But surely you can't doubt his genius at shoring up your dodgy Defense. That's two clean sheets in a row. Who cares if you left your best player sat on the bench.

I really thought it could be a 3 horse race this season. Thanks Roman

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 29/11/2012 9:08:52 AM   
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What a fucking joke... no more than our owner deserves. Rafa must be pissing himself every night.

Utter joke. I half hope West Ham win on Saturday.... friggin unreal.

Oh well, at least we have won the CL!

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 29/11/2012 9:10:04 AM   
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There's a rumour that RA had a meeting with a handful of member fans before the game against City where the fans said how upset they were with RDM being sacked and Rafa being appointed. RA apparently listened to all their views and gave answers through a translator. Not sure about that if I'm honest...


I dont believe a word of that mate.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 29/11/2012 5:41:06 PM   
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Back to the booing issue, I agree it doesn't help the players but they know it's not aimed at them. And it is a way of venting your frustrations with something you disagree with. I don't see how you would aim a chant or song at RA and it just wouldn't happen. So aim it at the guy that no Chelsea fan wants and no other club has wanted in nearly two years of being out of work.


Do you think it will help the players knowing their manager is really unpopular? Will it make them want to play for him?

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 29/11/2012 9:12:28 PM   
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I really don't think they'd need the fans to tell them that he's unpopular! And no, it's not going to help they players want to play for him. I'd imagine it's going to take a hell of a lot for them to want play for him. Mata not starting last night is not going to help. And I know it's only been two games, one of which was against City, but he's already stifled the creative element it seems. There were obvious flaws but there'd been some pretty good football played on the whole.

So this is, I think, the worst decision RA has ever made.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 29/11/2012 10:00:37 PM   
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I really don't think they'd need the fans to tell them that he's unpopular! And no, it's not going to help they players want to play for him. I'd imagine it's going to take a hell of a lot for them to want play for him.


Why though? Most of them weren't at the club when Benitez made his comments. And those that were, I doubt they care that much considering the way they've acted some of the time.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 30/11/2012 6:35:08 AM   
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Chelsea looking a completely different proposition under Rafa, who's really turned them around.

Two home games. No goals. Fulham games have generally always been tight but sounds like it was a thriller!

Back to the booing issue, I agree it doesn't help the players but they know it's not aimed at them. And it is a way of venting your frustrations with something you disagree with. I don't see how you would aim a chant or song at RA and it just wouldn't happen. So aim it at the guy that no Chelsea fan wants and no other club has wanted in nearly two years of being out of work.

There's a rumour that RA had a meeting with a handful of member fans before the game against City where the fans said how upset they were with RDM being sacked and Rafa being appointed. RA apparently listened to all their views and gave answers through a translator. Not sure about that if I'm honest...


It's happened at Man U, Newcastle, Liverpool and Blackburn to name a few. Admittedly the latter fans had it in for the manager as well as the owner but you get the idea.
I just think booing him before his first game was idiotic and unhelpful.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 30/11/2012 6:38:55 AM   
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Chelsea looking a completely different proposition under Rafa, who's really turned them around.

Two home games. No goals. Fulham games have generally always been tight but sounds like it was a thriller!

Back to the booing issue, I agree it doesn't help the players but they know it's not aimed at them. And it is a way of venting your frustrations with something you disagree with. I don't see how you would aim a chant or song at RA and it just wouldn't happen. So aim it at the guy that no Chelsea fan wants and no other club has wanted in nearly two years of being out of work.

There's a rumour that RA had a meeting with a handful of member fans before the game against City where the fans said how upset they were with RDM being sacked and Rafa being appointed. RA apparently listened to all their views and gave answers through a translator. Not sure about that if I'm honest...


It's happened at Man U, Newcastle, Liverpool and Blackburn to name a few. Admittedly the latter fans had it in for the manager as well as the owner but you get the idea.
I just think booing him before his first game was idiotic, unhelpful and sadly indicative of the growing army of negative, impatient, spoilt modern football fans.



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RE: Chelsea Thread - 30/11/2012 9:49:59 AM   
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I just think booing him before his first game was idiotic, unhelpful and sadly indicative of the growing army of negative, impatient, spoilt modern football fans.


The booing was aimed at both the prick of a Manager that we now have and the madness of the owner..

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 30/11/2012 10:31:12 AM   
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It seems slightly ironic talking of Chelsea fans as impatient and spoilt when this is surely the trait of the owner who will sack any manager if they don't win the PL and CL every season while playing beautiful football with a striker of his choosing who can't deliver any more.

I'm not a fan of booing, but I think its a sign of how disenfranchised fans who go to games are becoming with how their team is run. IMO they are mostly realising that their input to the club via season tickets and concession stand purchases is becoming pocket change compared to TV revenues, sponsorship opportunities and overseas replica shirt sales. In that type of environment, I can start to see how booing becomes a way that the fans can vent their frustrations with the club set up. Although, like marching from a pub they were going to anyway, to a game they were going to anyway, it doesn't seem to carry any weight.

I think it would also be clear to the players what the issue was from the fans, rather than the team being booed off at half time because they were not winning (which really is crass and I'm sure has happened at Chelsea this season).

Its an interesting game tomorrow lunch time. Big Sam tends to play deep when he faces the big teams. This gives Chelsea options and they should be favourites, but Rafa now has reigned in the runs of Ramires and also given more defensive duties to Hazard. Torres still looks like he'd rather be anywhere than on a football pitch and for some reason Rafa prefers to sit Mata on the bench or wide rather than in the middle of the park where he should be. I think Big Sam will gift Rafa his first win, but do think that West Ham could come out of this with much more if they go after Chelsea.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 30/11/2012 3:44:24 PM   
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I just think booing him before his first game was idiotic, unhelpful and sadly indicative of the growing army of negative, impatient, spoilt modern football fans.


The booing was aimed at both the prick of a Manager that we now have and the madness of the owner..


I doubt the owner gives two fucks though. The team on the other hand, well, it didn't exactly help them, did it?
A home support baying for (their own) blood is always going to distract the players and get to them regardless of who it's aimed at.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 30/11/2012 11:34:16 PM   
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I just think booing him before his first game was idiotic, unhelpful and sadly indicative of the growing army of negative, impatient, spoilt modern football fans.


The booing was aimed at both the prick of a Manager that we now have and the madness of the owner..


Get over it, this booing is doing no one any favours is it.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 1/12/2012 10:02:28 AM   
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I just think booing him before his first game was idiotic, unhelpful and sadly indicative of the growing army of negative, impatient, spoilt modern football fans.


The booing was aimed at both the prick of a Manager that we now have and the madness of the owner..


Get over it, this booing is doing no one any favours is it.


Except Manchester United and Man City.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 1/12/2012 2:31:45 PM   
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Really a transformed team under Rafa now. A goal in this game for them . Obvious he doesn't want to push the tea too hard, too fast, so he pulled off Moses who looked the best chance for a second.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 1/12/2012 2:33:25 PM   
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RE: Chelsea Thread - 1/12/2012 2:37:10 PM   
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Really a transformed team under Rafa now. A goal in this game for them . Obvious he doesn't want to push the tea too hard, too fast, so he pulled off Moses who looked the best chance for a second.






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RE: Chelsea Thread - 1/12/2012 2:40:44 PM   
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RE: Chelsea Thread - 1/12/2012 2:43:09 PM   
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You can't judge him after a couple of games. You have to least wait until next season to see his stamp truly appear on the team.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 1/12/2012 2:59:00 PM   
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You can't judge him after a couple of games. You have to least wait until next season to see his stamp truly appear on the team.


Which of course by then, he won't be at the club.



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RE: Chelsea Thread - 1/12/2012 3:00:07 PM   
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RE: Chelsea Thread - 1/12/2012 3:38:52 PM   
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RE: Chelsea Thread - 1/12/2012 3:46:25 PM   
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