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RE: Chelsea Thread - 2/6/2012 7:46:11 PM

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Not for me. Joe Cole is another terrible waste of talent because he wouldn't listen to any coach who didn't just let him go out and play.

Its terribly unfortunate because he obviously loves football, he just didn't have the brain to go with his talent.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 2/6/2012 8:11:41 PM

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Not for me. Joe Cole is another terrible waste of talent because he wouldn't listen to any coach who didn't just let him go out and play.

Its terribly unfortunate because he obviously loves football, he just didn't have the brain to go with his talent.

I first saw Joe Cole in an england u19 match,I think it was against France.
And to this day I still regard it as one of the most flamboyount yet brilliant displays I've ever witnessed.
He ran the show and he had all the tricks and skills in the trade.Brilliant.

Had he gone to United or Arsenal I think his stature would have been much higher than it is now.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 5/6/2012 2:34:12 PM

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It still amuses me that before he announced he was joining us fans from all the connected clubs said he was brilliant and now he's suddenly shit. I thought he was decent against England and look forward to seeing how he plays in the League. I'm more pleased he wasn't the one who smashed Cahill's face into Hart which would have been awkward, though I thought Mertens was a bit of a handful.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 5/6/2012 2:39:06 PM

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I thought he looked okay at the weekend. I don't know what anyone is to expect from a player at the end of the season basically having a knock-about.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 5/6/2012 10:03:15 PM

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Not for me. Joe Cole is another terrible waste of talent because he wouldn't listen to any coach who didn't just let him go out and play.

Its terribly unfortunate because he obviously loves football, he just didn't have the brain to go with his talent.

I do agree with this in part. I think Mourinho made him better all-round player but he did lose a lot of his spark...he was still probably my favourite player in the Mourinho era and he scored some cracking and important goals, particularly in the first two title winning seasons. The goals against Liverpool in the first season, Arsenal at Highbury in 2005 and at home to Utd when he skinned three players in one move! Wasted for the most part by England when he was at his peak by sticking him on the left of a 4-4-2...he was much more effective from a wide position in Chelsea's 4-4-3/4-5-1.

He's still only 30 so perhaps the future could see him in a more withdrawn playmaker-type role?

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 6/6/2012 9:15:06 AM

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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Flatulent_Bob

Not for me. Joe Cole is another terrible waste of talent because he wouldn't listen to any coach who didn't just let him go out and play.

Its terribly unfortunate because he obviously loves football, he just didn't have the brain to go with his talent.

I do agree with this in part. I think Mourinho made him better all-round player but he did lose a lot of his spark...he was still probably my favourite player in the Mourinho era and he scored some cracking and important goals, particularly in the first two title winning seasons. The goals against Liverpool in the first season, Arsenal at Highbury in 2005 and at home to Utd when he skinned three players in one move! Wasted for the most part by England when he was at his peak by sticking him on the left of a 4-4-2...he was much more effective from a wide position in Chelsea's 4-4-3/4-5-1.

Now I can see why Chelsea had an edge on other teams

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 6/6/2012 9:34:17 AM

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quote:

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Skiba

quote:

ORIGINAL: Flatulent_Bob

Not for me. Joe Cole is another terrible waste of talent because he wouldn't listen to any coach who didn't just let him go out and play.

Its terribly unfortunate because he obviously loves football, he just didn't have the brain to go with his talent.

I do agree with this in part. I think Mourinho made him better all-round player but he did lose a lot of his spark...he was still probably my favourite player in the Mourinho era and he scored some cracking and important goals, particularly in the first two title winning seasons. The goals against Liverpool in the first season, Arsenal at Highbury in 2005 and at home to Utd when he skinned three players in one move! Wasted for the most part by England when he was at his peak by sticking him on the left of a 4-4-2...he was much more effective from a wide position in Chelsea's 4-4-3/4-5-1.

Now I can see why Chelsea had an edge on other teams

Oops! Mourinho's secret is finally out!

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 7/6/2012 12:58:29 PM

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Ummm yeah...Away Kit 2012/2013

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 7/6/2012 1:36:53 PM

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Hmmm....bit Man City/Palace/Thunderbirds

Bring this back!

In other news, Battersea Power Station bid has been rejected:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jun/07/battersea-power-station-preferred-bidders

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 7/6/2012 2:30:58 PM

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quote:

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Hmmm....bit Man City/Palace/Thunderbirds

Bring this back!

In other news, Battersea Power Station bid has been rejected:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2012/jun/07/battersea-power-station-preferred-bidders

Im happy about this to a degree.
Its a beautifull building and I would have felt disapointed to see it knocked down or built around/inwards for a shallow modern football/sports stadium whatever the team.
Though the Malaysian proposal does'nt sound that encouraging.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 11/6/2012 12:24:23 AM

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18390166

I think this is really good news and something every football fan, not just Chelsea fans, are pleased to see. How far wrong can you go with the man who just guided you to both the FA Cup and the Champions League? The way the team responded to him, the fans, English football in general, that's got to be a good thing. Next season is a completely new start but I wish RDM the very best, he's earned the chance and I hope he's at Stamford Bride for a while yet!

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 11/6/2012 9:42:45 PM

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Chelsea finished in a lower league position under RDM than they were under AVB

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 12/6/2012 1:07:16 AM

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Chelsea finished in a lower league position under RDM than they were under AVB

But they won the FA Cup and Champions League, it was always going to be an uphill task for RDM to come in and magically change things around in all three formats his team were playing in, he'll have a fresh start this summer and into next season and who knows where he might take them in the league next.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 13/6/2012 7:01:43 PM

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Good luck you deserved at least another year but I will be surprised (no matter what happens) if you last the two year deal.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 13/6/2012 7:34:27 PM

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I'll be suprised if he lasts six months.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 13/6/2012 7:58:21 PM

Rinc

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quote:

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Chelsea finished in a lower league position under RDM than they were under AVB

But they won the FA Cup and Champions League, it was always going to be an uphill task for RDM to come in and magically change things around in all three formats his team were playing in, he'll have a fresh start this summer and into next season and who knows where he might take them in the league next.

Chelsea got worse in the league under him though. He has the lowest win percentage of any Chelsea manager since Hoddle. It was always going to be tough to turn it around and the CL was probably a distraction, so it will be interesting to see how he fares from August onwards when that isn't an excuse. I just think he's escaped a lot of criticism for their league displays.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 14/6/2012 10:10:11 AM

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18390166

I think this is really good news and something every football fan, not just Chelsea fans, are pleased to see. How far wrong can you go with the man who just guided you to both the FA Cup and the Champions League? The way the team responded to him, the fans, English football in general, that's got to be a good thing. Next season is a completely new start but I wish RDM the very best, he's earned the chance and I hope he's at Stamford Bride for a while yet!

Again not for me. They would have responded to anyone not AvP being the twats that they were.

Here a bold prediction, Chelsea won't make top 4 next season either.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 14/6/2012 10:13:47 AM

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With Hazard and Hulk coming in?

Blimey, that is bold.

Can't see Spurs (whoever is in charge) mounting a challenge, personally.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 14/6/2012 11:30:47 AM

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With Hazard and Hulk coming in?

Blimey, that is bold.

Can't see Spurs (whoever is in charge) mounting a challenge, personally.

I think he is an average manager without the experience to control players at this level.
He is ok at the moment because the players think they are still running the show. What happens when he needs to (as he does if they are to move forward) drop Terry, Frank and Cech?

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 14/6/2012 11:32:47 AM

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Oh, I agree. The idea that Di Matteo is now some managerial genius, when it's clear he just let the senior players run the team, is baffling. They should have thanked him for his great work and politely moved him on, instead of letting him continue where I imagine he'll be found out.

Still think they'll be top four, though.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 14/6/2012 11:40:40 AM

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You'll probably be right, I'm shit at bets generally.

However I think Spurs will go for a good coach who'll start to sort out that team and get them player something like.
Newcastle shouldn't be sniffed at if they keep their players, and my dark horses if they keep Moyes will be Everton.
I think now they have a real centre forward they could have a strong season with top notch young talent coming through but the close season is going to be huge for them. They need to keep Marouane Fellaini but with Barkley, Rodwell coming through/backing up and playing more games I think they are potentially looking in good shape.
Obviously losing Baines, Fellaini, and Moyes would seriously scupper this.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 14/6/2012 12:53:05 PM

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quote:

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With Hazard and Hulk coming in?

Blimey, that is bold.

Can't see Spurs (whoever is in charge) mounting a challenge, personally.

I think he is an average manager without the experience to control players at this level.
He is ok at the moment because the players think they are still running the show. What happens when he needs to (as he does if they are to move forward) drop Terry, Frank and Cech?

Terry and Cech have a few years left before he has to worry about that and Drogs (God) has gone. Lamps is already being fazed out and will be more limited in appearances.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 14/6/2012 12:57:35 PM

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I am glad he has got a chance but I am afraid for him... we rode our luck big time in the CL, and it wasn't his managerial genius that one it for us, it was the dogged stubborness and determination of the players to finally win it. Added to the feel good factor of getting ridof AVB.

I hope it pans out well for him and whatever happens he will have a important place in Chelsea's history, but if I am really honest he may not last more than 12 PL games. I pray I am wrong.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 14/6/2012 12:59:08 PM

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I think Terry, to steal an F1 phrase, has gone off the cliff. His performances will drop quickly over the next 6-12 months.
In short, his body is fucked.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 23/6/2012 11:09:06 AM

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Chelsea have released some of the plans they had for Battersea

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jun/22/chelsea-battersea-stadium-plans

Sounds and looks as though it would've been great, and they were going to keep the towers

Now it seems it'll be some soul-less shopping centre/offices and some housing that only buy-to-let arseholes will be able to afford to buy.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 23/6/2012 11:11:27 AM

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Chelsea have released some of the plans they had for Battersea

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2012/jun/22/chelsea-battersea-stadium-plans

Sounds and looks as though it would've been great, and they were going to keep the towers Now it seems it'll be some soul-less shopping centre/offices and some housing that only buy-to-let arseholes will be able to afford to buy.

I actually agree, it would have been a real iconic building which retaining a lot of the history. Certainly more long term than a shopping centre FFS. Serious kudos to Chelsea for seeing the potential here though.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 2/7/2012 1:33:27 PM

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What do ye think of Maicon at Chelsea?

I'm not that enamoured, seems like a step back to the shirt-selling names rather than quality players. But I guess the team does need a RB.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 2/7/2012 3:11:54 PM

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Well we do need a RB (though Ivanovic) and we could do worse. Ideally in my fantasy world it�s Lahm, Ramos or Alves�

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 14/7/2012 10:35:30 AM

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Our possible first team line up for 2012/2013...Obi looks out of place though he had improved at the end of last season.

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RE: Chelsea Thread - 14/7/2012 11:12:29 AM

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no Marin? Pffft.

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