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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 1/11/2006 10:06:48 AM   
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Would you not agree that Henson is totally over rated though, really? I'd give any number of Welsh centre's a run over the over hyped one. Joes is class and Peel has a bit about him, Wales have the makings of a nice side there. They'll do well I'd say.



Henson is the most overrated player in British Rugby. He lacks the pace to really hurt opposing teams, his defence is solid but he doesn't intimidate the opposition and creatively he is distinctly "meh". So far his entire career has been built on one kick against England. I'd be surprised to see him in the Welsh starting 15.

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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 1/11/2006 10:25:33 AM   
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Would you not agree that Henson is totally over rated though, really? I'd give any number of Welsh centre's a run over the over hyped one. Joes is class and Peel has a bit about him, Wales have the makings of a nice side there. They'll do well I'd say.



Henson is the most overrated player in British Rugby. He lacks the pace to really hurt opposing teams, his defence is solid but he doesn't intimidate the opposition and creatively he is distinctly "meh". So far his entire career has been built on one kick against England. I'd be surprised to see him in the Welsh starting 15.


Yea but few of the Welsh fans I've spoken to can acknowledge this.

Compared to O Driscoll, D'Arcy or Murphy he's patently average.

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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 2/11/2006 3:36:34 AM   
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 Overrated? Possibly. But I disagree that his entire career has been based on one kick against England. Having watched him play for his club, he has generally performed week in week out, hence his inclusion in the team. His defence is excellent, he's a strong runner with good lines and adds a decent kicking option out wide. As good as O'Driscoll? PErhaps not, but then few are.

And Peel 'has a bit about him'??? He's one of the best scrum halves if the world, mate!!

Oh, and after Oz lost the Ospreys (a team without many of its internationals!), I'm quietly confident about this weekend!!

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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 5/11/2006 10:27:17 PM   
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 A draw! A sodding draw!! Staying up until 4am for a draw!!! Gaaah!!

Still, a good game. Plenty of positives for both sides, although I'll wait until I see how the rest of the internations go before claiming 'a new dawn' for Welsh rugby!! We've had far too many false ones....

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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 6/11/2006 10:54:59 AM   
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T'was a good draw though.

That James Hook looks fairly handy too.

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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 6/11/2006 11:11:11 AM   
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Overrated? Possibly. But I disagree that his entire career has been based on one kick against England. Having watched him play for his club, he has generally performed week in week out, hence his inclusion in the team. His defence is excellent, he's a strong runner with good lines and adds a decent kicking option out wide. As good as O'Driscoll? PErhaps not, but then few are.

And Peel 'has a bit about him'??? He's one of the best scrum halves if the world, mate!!

Oh, and after Oz lost the Ospreys (a team without many of its internationals!), I'm quietly confident about this weekend!!


Don't ever underestimate the Aussies, even if this Aussie team should be hockeyed by most International Sides, they've still got the class of Larkham, Giteau, and above all Latham to fall back on. they'll be alright when they find their best line up. Some fantastic players there.

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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 10/11/2006 10:20:19 AM   
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In other news, who do you think will win this weekend?

England v Argentina, I'll say the Argies and Andy to get the old heave ho.
France v New Zealand, boring boring NZ
Ireland v S Africa, Hmmmmmm, it'll be close, I'll be confident and say we'll beat them with a moment of BOD brilliance.
Italy v Australia, Aus, but Italy will definitely compete in this one.
Scotland v Romania, Scotland
Wales v Pacific Island, another close one, I actually think if the Islanders could get their act together they could beat what will essentially be a 2nd Wales XV.

Whaddy think fellas? (Mainly Ram and Izz as nobody else ever seems to be on this thread)

In yet more other news, I have secured two premium seats to IRL V AUS next weekend! Ha ha delighted!!


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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 11/11/2006 11:43:07 AM   
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Mason is such a thug. It was great seeing him get smashed again by Kidwell after he was talking shit during the Haka.

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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 12/11/2006 9:47:13 PM   
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 Well, how dire were the Boks? Fair play to an on form Irish side taking them to pieces!!

And Robinson surely has to go after this??

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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 13/11/2006 2:02:22 PM   
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NEWS JUST IN!!

Robinson to remain as England coachhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/rugby_union/6143838.stm

Brilliant for the rest of us but what the hell are the RFU thinking?

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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 13/11/2006 2:03:22 PM   
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Jamie_Peacock_to_the_rescue!

Mason is such a thug. It was great seeing him get smashed again by Kidwell after he was talking shit during the Haka.


Was that the League Tri-Nations? GB got a bit of a stuffing there didn't they.
BTW anyone that fronts up to that over rated morris dance that is the Haka these days get my thumbs up.

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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 15/11/2006 12:32:03 PM   
keca_2000


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 Trouble is they can't really just ditch Robinson and leave us coachless for the rest of the autumn tests... Rob Andrews has said quite clearly that he won't step into the breach. It might be best (much as it pains me) to hang on Robinson until this lot of matches are out of the way, then find someone new before the 6 nations. He can't stay - the team don't seem to believe in him anymore, so they don't properly believe in themselves.
 
On the bright side - OK so we're not playing great, but we still managed to get a few scores past the All Blacks so it could be worse. Right? Ah heck I'm not even convincing myself!

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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 15/11/2006 12:59:11 PM   
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Well, how dire were the Boks? Fair play to an on form Irish side taking them to pieces!!

And Robinson surely has to go after this??


When you see an advantage you gotta take it and if the Boks were stoopid enough to change around their team then what else do you expect?

Personally I was over the moon at the whole thing


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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 15/11/2006 3:00:44 PM   
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Well, how dire were the Boks? Fair play to an on form Irish side taking them to pieces!!


Ah yea they were poor, but poor Bok sides have come over here in the past and whacked us. I'm quite happy with how we're shaping up so far this season. I fear no one in the Northern Hemisphere at present.

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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 15/11/2006 3:00:47 PM   
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Jamie_Peacock_to_the_rescue!

Mason is such a thug. It was great seeing him get smashed again by Kidwell after he was talking shit during the Haka.


Was that the League Tri-Nations? GB got a bit of a stuffing there didn't they.
BTW anyone that fronts up to that over rated morris dance that is the Haka these days get my thumbs up.


Yeah that was in the Tri-Nations although you're wrong in that GB actually won that match!!! With the thread being dominated by posts on how shit England are and whether Andy Robinson should be sacked, i thought i should post a link to good fight!

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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 15/11/2006 3:03:10 PM   
theram05


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Jamie_Peacock_to_the_rescue!

Mason is such a thug. It was great seeing him get smashed again by Kidwell after he was talking shit during the Haka.


Was that the League Tri-Nations? GB got a bit of a stuffing there didn't they.
BTW anyone that fronts up to that over rated morris dance that is the Haka these days get my thumbs up.


Yeah that was in the Tri-Nations although you're wrong in that GB actually won that match!!! With the thread being dominated by posts on how shit England are and whether Andy Robinson should be sacked, i thought i should post a link to good fight!


If you wanna find a good fight, see if you can find something about the International Rules "game" between Ireland and Australia, 15 minutes of fighting with the occasional outbreak of football.

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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 15/11/2006 3:25:42 PM   
dh_19


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ORIGINAL: theram05

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ORIGINAL: dh_19

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ORIGINAL: Peter Dragon

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ORIGINAL: dh_19

Jamie_Peacock_to_the_rescue!

Mason is such a thug. It was great seeing him get smashed again by Kidwell after he was talking shit during the Haka.


Was that the League Tri-Nations? GB got a bit of a stuffing there didn't they.
BTW anyone that fronts up to that over rated morris dance that is the Haka these days get my thumbs up.


Yeah that was in the Tri-Nations although you're wrong in that GB actually won that match!!! With the thread being dominated by posts on how shit England are and whether Andy Robinson should be sacked, i thought i should post a link to good fight!


If you wanna find a good fight, see if you can find something about the International Rules "game" between Ireland and Australia, 15 minutes of fighting with the occasional outbreak of football.


I've just watched clips of Ire v Aus clashes from both 2005 & 2006 and they were both brutal. Cheers for the recommendation

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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 15/11/2006 3:36:26 PM   
theram05


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ORIGINAL: theram05

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ORIGINAL: dh_19

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ORIGINAL: Peter Dragon

quote:

ORIGINAL: dh_19

Jamie_Peacock_to_the_rescue!

Mason is such a thug. It was great seeing him get smashed again by Kidwell after he was talking shit during the Haka.


Was that the League Tri-Nations? GB got a bit of a stuffing there didn't they.
BTW anyone that fronts up to that over rated morris dance that is the Haka these days get my thumbs up.


Yeah that was in the Tri-Nations although you're wrong in that GB actually won that match!!! With the thread being dominated by posts on how shit England are and whether Andy Robinson should be sacked, i thought i should post a link to good fight!


If you wanna find a good fight, see if you can find something about the International Rules "game" between Ireland and Australia, 15 minutes of fighting with the occasional outbreak of football.


I've just watched clips of Ire v Aus clashes from both 2005 & 2006 and they were both brutal. Cheers for the recommendation


Yea, it aint bad, now see if you can find some from the 80's when the Bomber and the Dipper were going at it, hard core stuff my man!

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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 16/11/2006 10:21:55 AM   
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If you want to see a good old fashioned Rugby Union dust up, nobody, and I mean nobody, does it better than the French club scene.

Check THIS out, watch the crowd near the touchline.

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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 16/11/2006 3:13:41 PM   
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If you want to see a good old fashioned Rugby Union dust up, nobody, and I mean nobody, does it better than the French club scene.

Check THIS out, watch the crowd near the touchline.


That is really mental!

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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 19/11/2006 4:24:55 PM   
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 We won!! England finally won a match. Well I never. So they're not the worst side for 135 years (statistically anyway!). Hurrah! Now maybe we can stop messing about and remember how to play rugby properly. Need to stop making stupid errors though - makes me cringe the number of intercepted passes we've had in the last few matches that have become tries for the other team.
 
Thank heavens for Josh Lewsey too.  Even if he does play for Wasps...

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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 20/11/2006 2:39:12 AM   
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Things really are going well for us Irish!  

Should be up to 2nd in the world now and deservedly so IMO.  Apart from our props (and flyhalf if Humphreys doesn't come out of retirement for the WC) we really have plenty of strength and depth.  Trimble/Hickie, Dempsey/Murphy, Easterby, Boss and O' Kelly all available to come off the bench.  Also, I'm really liking our back row now with Leamy, Wallace and Best!  Probably the most positive thing to come out of the past 2 weeks is the real sense of confidence within the team. 

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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 20/11/2006 9:36:20 AM   
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 O Gara is playing the most complete rugby of his career, I shudder to think what would happen if we were to lose him. I know the option is for Humps to come back and he probably will, but I really would like to see someone else grab the ball somewhere, sometime. Maybe next weekend will tell us more about Paddy but I saw him at the Cup in the States last Summer and it wasn't pretty, I would much prefer to see Staunton in over Wallace.

Getting back to the weekend, fantastic display, great to be where we are now. I just hoep we can keep it up. The injury to Marcus worries me greatly as it is in one of the areas on the field where we are weakest. We have great back up all over the park, even at scrum half now, but if anything happened to ROG or Bull we may as well not show up.

Can't wait for the 6 Nations and a run at the Taffe's and the Frogs.

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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 20/11/2006 3:07:17 PM   
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Whoohoo, Ireland up to 3rd in the completely out of touch and pointless IRB rankings.

Still I think, probably us and a fully fit Wales firing on all cylinders are the only nations that could put it up someway to the AB's at the moment. Next weekend in Cardiff will tell us a lot about Wales.

I also still think Munster are better than this Irish team.

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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 27/11/2006 10:47:34 AM   
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 Another good show from the Irish this weekend. Pity I can't say the same for the England team! Who do people think should replace Andy Robinson? I read an article this morning which made a pretty good case for Dean Richards...

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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 28/11/2006 2:56:02 PM   
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 should be Deano but can't see him leaving Quins just yet probably gonna end up with Andrew

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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 28/11/2006 3:06:50 PM   
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 Curses, I was so hoping England would stick by Robinson.........! Rumour has its Johnno, they'd be nuts to go with him, I'd give Gatty whatever he wants. The RFU have made a fuck of this whole thing though and deserve what they now get.

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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 29/11/2006 2:47:54 AM   
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Next weekend in Cardiff will tell us a lot about Wales.



hmmm.......

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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 29/11/2006 9:44:21 AM   
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Next weekend in Cardiff will tell us a lot about Wales.



hmmm.......


Thats what you get for pissing the All Balcks off and showing disrespect to tradition.



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RE: Oval Balls - The Rugby Thread - 29/11/2006 1:47:15 PM   
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 Well Robinson has gone then, who do folk think will get the job and is the change to late for the WC

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