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RE: NFL and general American Football - 3/2/2006 8:38:16 AM   
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RE: NFL and general American Football - 3/2/2006 8:39:25 AM   
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i think pitsburgh will take it... however i'm gonna be supporting the NFC - so i'm hoping seattle do it..!!

looking forward to the game now tho..

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RE: NFL and general American Football - 6/2/2006 9:45:41 PM   
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So I avoided the score all day at work and have just finished watching.

Good game a couple of dodgy call maybe??  It was a close game until about the last 6 minutes and that's what I was hopeing for.

Well done to the Steelers

Also by the sound of it there could be a game at Wembley this October. I shall be going to that if that happens. Please let it be my Raiders

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RE: NFL and general American Football - 7/2/2006 9:40:38 AM   
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Pretty poor game, fast forwarded through most of it. I knew it would be as I always find out the results in the close games before hand and I'd avoided it this time! Most of the momentum swings were due to big mistakes rather than good play. Possibly the only time it got exciting was the interception that Seattle then turned into a touchdown to make it close.

Who got the MVP in the end? I'd probably have given it to the officials as they had the biggest influence on the game. Glad I'm not a Seattle fan, I'd have felt robbed. How many bad calls did they make - and at crucial times? The called back touchdown pass, Roethlisberger's run that wasn't (probably academic as they had 3rd and an inch after that, but still....) probably a few others. I remember reading on NFL.com during the week one of the pundits (well, Boomer Esisason ) say that at least the officiating will be good, it's one of the leagues top crews. Oh dear, when they're not overturning clear calls on the replay you have to worry.

Really pleased for Bill Cowher and the Steelers franchise though, it shows the value of sticking with a great coach even if you have the odd poor season here or there.

Seattle to do list for the offseason:
  • Learn to run a 2 minute drill
  • Stop dropping easy passes
  • Bribe the officials enough to at least make it a fair game
  • Stop shooting yourselves in the foot
Pittsburgh to do list for the offseason:
  • More of the same thanks very much
  • Make sure they lose enough regular season games so they have to play on the road in the playoffs

Good season overall, some shock wins and a few classics. I'm just hoping my Dolphins are competitive throughout the year in 2006.

See you all in September.


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RE: NFL and general American Football - 7/2/2006 9:58:59 AM   
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hines ward got mvp.... think he got slightly more yardage than parker.. must have been a tough call tho coz dont really think anyone stood out..

parker had 1 decent run, and wards touchdown catch from randle el was rather good but other than that i thought everyone was pretty average...

well apart from the refs that is - who were decidely below average....

still cant make my mind up about the rothlisberger (or however u spell it) TD sneak... didnt think he was over, but im guessing as there was no decent angle to tell for definate they had to stand by the decision made on field....

thought the seahawks were a bit unlucky with some other calls too - but there ya go,,,

roll on september... and lets hope the niners have a better season next time..!!



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RE: NFL and general American Football - 7/2/2006 10:53:11 AM   
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I don't believe that part of the ball went on the line. When it happen I thought straight away that it was not a touchdown and was surprise when it was given. On the replays I still don't believe it was over the Seattle guy did a great block

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RE: NFL and general American Football - 7/2/2006 7:19:35 PM   
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The angle showed clearly that the ball didn't cross the line. I can't believe that the zebras didn't see that. It was one of the worst Superbowls I have ever seen. The standard of play didn't reflect the season that the Steelers have had.
Looking forward to next season.It can't come soon enough.

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RE: NFL and general American Football - 27/8/2006 7:33:48 PM   
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*Blows off cobwebs*

Its a bit dusty in here.

Anyways, with the new NFL season fast approaching (first game on Thursday 7th September, Miami Dolphins Vs Pitsburgh Steelers) does anyone have any predictions for this year?
Can the Steelers go back to back?
Will the Seahawks be the best in the NFC again?
Who do you see as contenders?
Who will be the movers and shakers this year?
Which player/rookie could set the NFL on fire this year?

Come on peeps, its getting close, time to get it on.

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RE: NFL and general American Football - 27/8/2006 8:49:30 PM   
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Is it that time of year again?

Good, good. I think one of the attractions of each new season is that I don't follow any of the developments in the off-season so any significant developments are always a bit of a shock and without any overanalysis that kills my enjoyment of many sports over here. It's like being unspoiled for films I guess. Might head over to NFL.com though and have a brief look around.

Fingers crossed for the Dolphins, though it's a tough start against the Steelers. Hopefully they'll put in a good performance even if they start with a loss.

Not sure if I'll be watching many games this year (depends who is presenting the Five coverage, if it's Colin Murray no chance), but I'll be keeping up to date with the scores each sunday.

Edit:

Ouch, painful memories from Chris Collinsworth on NFL.com, discussing the importance of backup quarterbacks:

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Even teams like the Colts and Packers, where backup quarterback seems to be a ceremonial position, have to be prepared for tragedy. Dan Marino hadn't missed a game his first 10 years in the league when a torn Achilles tendon cost him the last 11 games of 1993. The Dolphins, fresh from an AFC Championship Game appearance, missed the playoffs by one game behind Scott Mitchell and Steve DeBerg.


I remember that incident well, first year I really followed the league. I think that was the year we beat the Cowboys in the snow in Dallas, but lost pretty much the rest of the games without Marino.


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RE: NFL and general American Football - 27/8/2006 9:24:48 PM   
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Hi NFL fans, can one of you answer a question for me?

Last season was the first I followed and I'd like to know how the fixtures are decided. I can't see any logic to the 16 main games thatt each team plays and I just wondered if it's completely random?

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RE: NFL and general American Football - 27/8/2006 9:41:38 PM   
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A couple of years ago I could explain this (before they restructured the divisions), but now I'm not certain, but this is the general gist of it. (I'll use Miami as an example as they're my team )

http://www.nfl.com/teams/schedule/MIA

Easiest rule first: you play each time in your division twice, home and away.  (6 games)So that's Buffalo, New England and the NY Jets.

Then there's a yearly rota for cross conference, so this year the AFC East teams will play the NFC North, once each. (4 games). Green Bay, Chicago, Minnesota, Detroit. I'm not certain how they decide the home/away games there, probably based on results last year.

The next is the interconferece matches, where it's based on a seeding system from last year, poorer teams in theory get easier matches, division winners always play each other, that sort of thing. Pittsburgh, Houtson,Tennessee, Kansas City, Jacksonville, Indianapolis. (6 games). I'm going to guess that that's two from each remaining AFC division.

Just don't ask about tie-breakers for the playoffs, that gets really complicated.



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RE: NFL and general American Football - 27/8/2006 10:02:39 PM   
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Wow that really is complicated. Thanks for going to the effort of explaining it all.

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RE: NFL and general American Football - 28/8/2006 7:54:56 AM   
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My , it is a little dusty and untidy in here isn't it?  Just found an Eagles T-shirt with OWENS on the back. I can hardly make it out 'cos it looks like someone wiped their arse on it. 

Ok, here we go as far as I understand it....

You play every team in your division twice, home and away = 6 games.

You play 1 division in your own conference, eg, East v South = 4 games.

You play 1 division in the other conference eg. AFC East v NFC West = 4 games.

Final two games are teams are random , but I think one of the teams must have made it to the playoffs last season =2 games.

With the extreme coaching shake up at the end of last season, I think this will prove to be one of the most unstable and hard to predict seasons in a long time.

Jo's pick this year for a team on the rise- the Dolphins. I hate to admit it but they have a great chance this season.......and I really do despise the fish but things just might be good this year for the buggers!

The God of the NFL thread is our dear Captain and I bow to his superior knowledge in all things football.



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RE: NFL and general American Football - 29/8/2006 10:16:38 AM   
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So it's that time of year again. I am like Captain Black I don't follow the news in the off-season so I have no idea whats gone on.

Still my Raiders will most likely bomb like they have the past few seasons

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RE: NFL and general American Football - 29/8/2006 12:34:43 PM   
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I don't think there have been too many major roster moves in the off-season this time around.
God only knows where Terrell is this season (or where he will finish up)......

I'm hoping for the Chicago Bears to go a step further than the 1st round of the play-offs this season.  However, pre-season included a massive hammering by the AWFUL 49ers, so my hopes aren't high.

Elsewhere, as a semi-follower of the Buccaneers, I don't see them challenging too much for the big one.

I think the Colts could go all the way this time........

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RE: NFL and general American Football - 29/8/2006 7:15:06 PM   
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Pre-season scores means jack-shit in reality, despite the pundits and stat-boys putting stock in them.

Just been up shopping in our local town and the NFL jerseys have started to make an appearance. Everyone is gearing up...........

I just want to slap the eejits with the old LA Raiders ones on. Just let it go........move on with your life! Buy a new T!

SEASONS NEARLY HERE! 'xcitin'. Nice.

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RE: NFL and general American Football - 30/8/2006 8:19:42 AM   
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Walkerboy:
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I don't think there have been too many major roster moves in the off-season this time around.
God only knows where Terrell is this season (or where he will finish up)......


TO has ended up in Dallas with the Big Tuna, so expect him to have a good year (like any first year he has with a new team. Next year, well, thats a different matter).

Daunte Culpepper has gone from the Vikings to the Dolphins, so as long as he can get and stay fit, they could be a major force this year. Brad Johnson expected to take over for the Vikings.

Steve Hutchinson (prbably the best guard in the game) has moved from Seattle to Minnesota, so at least Mr Johnson will get some prtection this year.

In probably the biggest move of the Summer, Adam Vinatieri went from New England to Indianapolis. Mr Van Der Jackt shown the door after that huge miss against Pitsburgh in the playoffs last year.

There have been others, but these are the big four over the summer.

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RE: NFL and general American Football - 30/8/2006 9:09:42 AM   
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Building on Last years solid performance for the Bengals would be good!!

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RE: NFL and general American Football - 30/8/2006 10:26:53 AM   
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NFL.com is a super site for all the football biz. During the off-season it's great for more gossip type news than game stuff. You find out who's having surgery , who's facing drugs/drive-by/assault/gun charges. Also in the down time , the players tend to bitch a bit about the previous season and be open about their fellow teammates than during the regular season.

Oh, check out You Tube for a nice NFL Sunday skit from Mad TV.


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Felix: "Poor guy. They must be like space hoppers by now."

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Daz : Get. A fucking. Room.

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RE: NFL and general American Football - 5/9/2006 1:31:38 PM   
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Ben Roethlisberger is out for at least two weeks due to emergency surgery on a burst appendix.

Says in the paper he only just shaken off the effects of a near fateal motorbike crash in June that left him in intensive care

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RE: NFL and general American Football - 5/9/2006 2:39:44 PM   
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So..... it all starts again on Thursday night with Miami v Pittsburgh.

I won't be staying up for that game though..... but will be tuning in to Sky Sports on Sunday for their 2 live games.

My Bears have ended pre-season with a 2-2-0 record, which I suppose isn't too bad.  Beat the Browns 20-7 at the weekend....
I think we will have the slight edge over Green Bay on Sunday night.

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RE: NFL and general American Football - 5/9/2006 3:18:20 PM   
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Considering the list of Big Bens injuries, I think he was doubtful anyway. The physio required for the damage was extensive. The breaks that he suffered were enough to put an ordinary mortal out of action for a long time. Yet , he has been floored by his appendix?

The PR folks must have been working overtime. No, no , nothing wrong with our QB! It's his appendix!

If I were a total Doubting Thomas, I would say it was a fine piece of timing for an operation to remove a piece of you that has little use. Or have I watched JFK too many times.......?



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Felix: "Poor guy. They must be like space hoppers by now."

lympo :
I have no idea how the idea came about! one moment I was eating turkey, the next i was on all fours

Daz : Get. A fucking. Room.

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RE: NFL and general American Football - 5/9/2006 3:47:06 PM   
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Bad news for the Chargers:

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SAN DIEGO -- Chargers linebacker Steve Foley will miss the season after being shot near his suburban home by an off-duty police officer.
Foley was placed on the non-football injured reserve list yesterday, a day after he was shot and a week before the Chargers open at Oakland.
The outside linebacker remained hospitalized in stable condition, according to his agent, David Levine.
Levine said information remained sketchy and his access to Foley had been limited. On Sunday, Levine said he was told Foley was shot three times, in the arm, leg and chest. Yesterday, he said he wasn't certain where Foley was shot.
Based on the medical information he was given, Chargers GM A.J. Smith decided to put Foley on non-football injured reserve.
"I had to make a football decision," Smith said. "I had to ask, 'What's the timetable?' We felt in the best interest of him and the team, that he would be out of action for the year.
"I think his priority No. 1 is his health and football is second."  


Hopefully my team can get off to a flier this week against the Colts. Cummon you Giants!

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RE: NFL and general American Football - 8/9/2006 10:03:24 AM   
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Pittsburgh beat Miami 28-17 last night, coming back from being 17-14 down!

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RE: NFL and general American Football - 8/9/2006 9:59:05 PM   
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Shootings, motorbike accidents, emergency apendectomies, it can only be the NFL! 

I guess a defeat to the Super Bowl winners isn't too bad a start for the Dolphins. Some of the numbers were a bit disappointing, but our season really starts in week 2.


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RE: NFL and general American Football - 9/9/2006 1:28:03 AM   
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Thought we had a great chance at 17-14 but we lost the ball to easy for the
rest of the game.

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RE: NFL and general American Football - 10/9/2006 10:44:13 AM   
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Pitsburgh win another game in controvisy. Was Miller's (TE Steelers) foot out of bounds? I think it was. Should the line judge have seen the red flag thrown from the Miami sideline? I think he should. Not that I'm biased against the Steelers or anything (being a Seadorks....I mean Seahawks fan).

Not the greatest of openers, but still, it was good to see Cullpepper going at it. On the whole, yeah, the Steelers 'probably' deserved it, I just wish they would stop getting all the 'BIG' calls in their favour.

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RE: NFL and general American Football - 11/9/2006 10:40:17 AM   
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No wonder I caould not find the Raiders score last night. They don't open until tonight

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RE: NFL and general American Football - 11/9/2006 11:19:29 AM   
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Thumping win for the Bears last night - 27-0 against the Packers!!!

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RE: NFL and general American Football - 12/9/2006 9:33:25 AM   
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Raiders lost 27 - 0 last night  I feel it's going to be a long season

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