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The Wicker Man - 31/8/2006 11:59:28 AM   
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RE: - 31/8/2006 3:32:19 PM   
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What a load of rubbish.

The Wicker Man 2006 is just another American remake that totally fails to understand what drove the original. Gone is the genuine creepy atmosphere, and in comes cheap "loud noise" scares, clunky dialogue and laboured exposition. At one point a character quickly shuts a book as Nic Cage enters, hiding what later turns out to be a note explaining what is going on. *sigh*

The dialogue is simply awful, with Cage asking seemingly simple questions, only to let himself be obfuscated at every turn, and then shouting a bit. Is that how the police work? If someone doesn't answer your questions, you pretend like you never asked them? No internal logic whatsoever.

At the end of the day though, this might work better for Americans who don't know the original. My general feeling throughout was one of "Haven't you seen the original Nic? You must know what is coming." The original has just become part of the subconscious foundations of cinema. For a film that relies totally on its twist ending (which was pretty obvious even in the original), The Wicker Man is totally underwhelming. It's 12A cert means when the actually terrifying ending arrives, it is brief and mainly happens off-camera, and is only heard.

Plus points: great cinematography, good coda.

2/5

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RE: The Wicker Man - 31/8/2006 5:39:13 PM   
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Saw this one today and o my.

Definitely one of the bad Nic Cage films which he just does once in a while. There's simply not a single aspect to his character he manages to make believable. He simply shouts when a scene is supposed to get emotional. Over and over again. Very annoying.  

For someone not familiar with the original I found the storyline a 100% predictable. 

Damn, time's run out.

2 out of 5. Watch only on DVD if bored. Bye.  



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RE: The Wicker Man - 31/8/2006 5:49:47 PM  1 votes
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From imdb:

I managed to get into a screening of the remake of the wicker man the other day, and have to say that i was pretty entertained by it. Being a life time horror movie fan, and having (obviously) seen the original, I was interested to see what this new school would bring to the story. From what I can see on the message boards, it looks like not many of the die-hard wicker fans are too enthused by the idea of a remake, but for the most part their fears can be put to rest (if they will allow). The remake DEFINITELY retains AND even ADDS to the the atmospheric slowly boiling sense of dread and and wonder (I.E. WHAT THE F**K!?!?), leading up to the inevitable ending which left me with a much more haunted feeling that even seeing the original for the first time.

I do have to warn you that if you are not a Nicholas Cage fan, this will not be a role to win you over- there are parts where it is painful to watch him. Everything else is relatively flawless though- if you let yourself get into the movie, you honestly feel as if you are on an isolated island where the "old ways" are still very relevant to society, something that even the original couldn't seem to do if you looked closely enough. The story is definitely fleshed out a bit, and if you're open to a new take on the story I think you'll have a great movie-going experience. I think that the important thing to remember here is that it's a movie- a brief distraction from real life whose purpose is to entertain- NOT a commentary on paganism.

This "remake" actually manages to stand on it's own as a new entry into the horror archives. Does it have its problems? of course it does, what movie doesn't? remake or not. It reminded me of the differences between the original Ringu and the Naomi Watts/ Gore Verbinski version- i think both are outstanding entries into the horror world, both offering many different things. Of course there is always the one that came first, but sometimes the "original" can be re-tooled and have new life breathed into it.

As a side-note- even if you HATE what they've done with the story/actors they chose- the cinematography is absolutely otherworldly here, with very little emphasis on special effects, and much more creative uses of natural landscapes and tricks of light.


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RE: The Wicker Man - 31/8/2006 7:57:13 PM  1 votes
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RE: The Wicker Man - 31/8/2006 9:11:17 PM   
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yeh kinda thought i had read that 2day somewwhere else nlol. could someone please put me out of my misery, what happens at the end? i have read 2 endings which i believe could be true, but if some1 cud pm me, id be grateful so that i dont have to waste my money 2morro night, cos otherwise i will! cheers

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RE: The Wicker Man - 1/9/2006 12:13:45 AM   
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Saw the Wicker Man remake today.
Pretty dull. In its own right it's a 3 out of 10 at best. Compared to the original its a 0.

The Wicker Man is just too English a story to move to an island off the West coast of America.

They really play it down to get the 12A rating.

SPOILER

When Cage is captured by the women on the island he is carried in a sack to the Wicker Man. On the soundtrack you hear the audio obviously alluding to a deleted scene where Cage's character has his legs broken by the islanders. Because its a voice-over, after the sound of a bone breaking, you hear him scream "AAAaaarrrrgggghhh my legs!!!!!" just in case you hadn't figured it out.
Its also got a shitty tacked on ending after the Wicker Man burning scene.
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RE: The Wicker Man - 1/9/2006 12:16:51 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Caster

I managed to get into a screening of the remake of the wicker man the other day, and have to say that i was pretty entertained by it. Being a life time horror movie fan, and having (obviously) seen the original, I was interested to see what this new school would bring to the story. From what I can see on the message boards, it looks like not many of the die-hard wicker fans are too enthused by the idea of a remake, but for the most part their fears can be put to rest (if they will allow). The remake DEFINITELY retains AND even ADDS to the the atmospheric slowly boiling sense of dread and and wonder (I.E. WHAT THE F**K!?!?), leading up to the inevitable ending which left me with a much more haunted feeling that even seeing the original for the first time.

I do have to warn you that if you are not a Nicholas Cage fan, this will not be a role to win you over- there are parts where it is painful to watch him. Everything else is relatively flawless though- if you let yourself get into the movie, you honestly feel as if you are on an isolated island where the "old ways" are still very relevant to society, something that even the original couldn't seem to do if you looked closely enough. The story is definitely fleshed out a bit, and if you're open to a new take on the story I think you'll have a great movie-going experience. I think that the important thing to remember here is that it's a movie- a brief distraction from real life whose purpose is to entertain- NOT a commentary on paganism.

This "remake" actually manages to stand on it's own as a new entry into the horror archives. Does it have its problems? of course it does, what movie doesn't? remake or not. It reminded me of the differences between the original Ringu and the Naomi Watts/ Gore Verbinski version- i think both are outstanding entries into the horror world, both offering many different things. Of course there is always the one that came first, but sometimes the "original" can be re-tooled and have new life breathed into it.

As a side-note- even if you HATE what they've done with the story/actors they chose- the cinematography is absolutely otherworldly here, with very little emphasis on special effects, and much more creative uses of natural landscapes and tricks of light.


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RE: The Wicker Man - 1/9/2006 12:22:35 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Wilbert


quote:

ORIGINAL: Caster

I managed to get into a screening of the remake of the wicker man the other day, and have to say that i was pretty entertained by it. Being a life time horror movie fan, and having (obviously) seen the original, I was interested to see what this new school would bring to the story. From what I can see on the message boards, it looks like not many of the die-hard wicker fans are too enthused by the idea of a remake, but for the most part their fears can be put to rest (if they will allow). The remake DEFINITELY retains AND even ADDS to the the atmospheric slowly boiling sense of dread and and wonder (I.E. WHAT THE F**K!?!?), leading up to the inevitable ending which left me with a much more haunted feeling that even seeing the original for the first time.

I do have to warn you that if you are not a Nicholas Cage fan, this will not be a role to win you over- there are parts where it is painful to watch him. Everything else is relatively flawless though- if you let yourself get into the movie, you honestly feel as if you are on an isolated island where the "old ways" are still very relevant to society, something that even the original couldn't seem to do if you looked closely enough. The story is definitely fleshed out a bit, and if you're open to a new take on the story I think you'll have a great movie-going experience. I think that the important thing to remember here is that it's a movie- a brief distraction from real life whose purpose is to entertain- NOT a commentary on paganism.

This "remake" actually manages to stand on it's own as a new entry into the horror archives. Does it have its problems? of course it does, what movie doesn't? remake or not. It reminded me of the differences between the original Ringu and the Naomi Watts/ Gore Verbinski version- i think both are outstanding entries into the horror world, both offering many different things. Of course there is always the one that came first, but sometimes the "original" can be re-tooled and have new life breathed into it.

As a side-note- even if you HATE what they've done with the story/actors they chose- the cinematography is absolutely otherworldly here, with very little emphasis on special effects, and much more creative uses of natural landscapes and tricks of light.


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I thought I read that review elsewhere today. Maybe its the same person writing on two different messageboards?

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RE: The Wicker Man - 1/9/2006 2:33:45 AM   
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Christ, THAT ending.... "SEQUELLLLL!"

Looked lovely though.

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RE: The Wicker Man - 1/9/2006 8:59:23 AM   
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I thought I read that review elsewhere today. Maybe its the same person writing on two different messageboards?

The guy on IMDB was posting from the US.


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RE: The Wicker Man - 1/9/2006 9:55:52 AM   
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Hey I want to know, I heard rumours that american audiences hated the ending of this film and Warner Bros ordered a happy ending to shot, this isn't true is it, Cage does burn all the way to hell handy as he is Ghost Rider nxt year, can somebody tell the actual ending of this film please in a pm or whatever because I don't really want to pay to see this film! I'd be grateful!

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RE: The Wicker Man - 1/9/2006 10:04:43 AM   
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Originally posted on www.theicepirateship.co.uk by, uh, me:



And so the seemingly endless cycle of remaking much-cherished horror movies finally catches up with Robin Hardy's much-cherished 1973 occult thriller. With Zack Snyder's Dawn Of The Dead the only truly successful attempt at such a feat in recent times, surely the capable hands of writer-director Neil LaBute can yield a positive result?

Sadly, they can't. LaBute certainly starts off well, though. Nicolas Cage plays a troubled freeway patrolman who ends up on the island of Summersilse (apparently just off the coast of Washington, geography fans) in search of his old flame's missing daughter. The predominantly female natives are less than accommodating, and as Cage fumbles from one location to the next he begins to unravel a potentially bigger picture than he'd first imagined.

The Wicker Man: Today Version certainly looks splendid. LaBute betrays his theatrical origins to provide plenty of sweeping shots of the island, whilst installing an unnerving sense of claustrophobia into the proceedings. However, he bodges the chilly atmosphere of the original with an over-reliance on cranking up the creepy tone and then unleashing a bullshit jump-scare to appease the ADHD-riddled teen audience that this flick is clearly hoping will fall into its demographic target audience. It's a shamelessly unnecessary tactic that belittles any foreboding presence the film has going for it.

The film's other main problem - aside from some seriously dodgy support, including but not limited to Ellen Burstyn as the overseer of the isle - is Cage. He's not operating in Wacky Fun Nic Cage mode, but he's still off the mark for Serious Actor Nicolas Cage too. Whereas Edward Woodward's 1973 protagonist had a certain innocence and naivity that made his bullishness forgiveable, Cage's character just comes across cocksure and obnoxious. It makes caring for his plight as the island increases its torment difficult. Fans of his "Put the bunny back in the box" fist-knawer from Con Air will be delighted that he gets to delivery an even worse line of dire-logue here.

LaBute's Wicker Man remains fairly faithful to its source, although by the time Cage's Ballamory Bitch-slap has reached its climax, it's disappointing to find that the replacement of mixed gender pagans with an almost exclusively female group turns out to be nothing more than a woeful mother-in-law gag gone wrong. To its most damning credit, this remake does finally address one of life's great quandries - is a bear shit in the woods? The answer being yes. Yes it is. **







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RE: The Wicker Man(2006) - 1/9/2006 11:26:56 AM   
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A horrifying, traumatising and debilitating experience - thats just the script, wait till you see the "acting".

As a long time admirer of the original Wicker Man movie I keenly anticipated a modern take on the story with an open mind on what could be achieved with todays filmmaking techniques. The potential for rustic, "old god" pagan imagery is huge after all.

What I got was a couple of hours of misery and disappointment. I actually felt cheated about having had to pay to see this.

The dialogue was seriously clunky - actually jarring at times "Oohh my leg!"...."Step a-w-a-y from the bicycle!" ... "You outsiders will never undertand our ways". --- I'm not kidding!

The acting left me wondering if the audience was being secretly filmed for a reality show "Lights ON!! Ha Ha! You've been had! Now...here's the REAL movie...." The scene in the classroom was embarrassing to watch, who the heck was that schoolteacher? She got paid for that performance???

As for the imagery, well it was cheap and nasty. The "dream sequence" was utterly expected. The loud noise and shock stuff was painting-by-numbers, to put it kindly.

What was all the Nic Cage punching lumps out of the women about? It all just felt forced and everyone was trying way too hard.

Sister Summersisle should have been charismatic and mysterious but she was just boring, where was the rich intrigue and sexual tension of the original.

Willow might as well have been played by a waxwork, which is what she looked like anyway and Nic Cage looked awful with makeup discernable all over his coupon.

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RE: The Wicker Man - 1/9/2006 1:46:06 PM   
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Well if your sure Caster isn`t from the US like some users on here Wilbert then sure they should be exposed for nicking other peoples reviews and passing them off as his own.

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RE: The Wicker Man - 1/9/2006 2:08:49 PM   
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Well if your sure Caster isn`t from the US like some users on here Wilbert then sure they should be exposed for nicking other peoples reviews and passing them off as his own.



In my defence, it wasn't me that exposed Casters plagiarism (if indeed it is plagiarism).

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RE: The Wicker Man - 1/9/2006 2:30:42 PM   
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Oh yes that was Badassmofo.

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RE: The Wicker Man - 1/9/2006 2:40:42 PM   
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RE: The Wicker Man - 1/9/2006 2:59:01 PM   
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Heres my review:

Responding to a letter from his ex-fiancée Willow, cop Edward Malus (Cage) visits the matriarchal community of Summersisle to investigate the alleged disappearance of Willow’s daughter Rowan (Erika-Shaye Gair). He suspects the followers of Sister Summersisle intend to make Rowan a burnt offering to ensure a superior harvest.

This has limited interest to folks who don't know the old movie, and an excruciating experience for those who do. Bad idea. Bad film.



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RE: The Wicker Man - 1/9/2006 3:09:45 PM   
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SPOILERS!

Okay well I saw this last night and although it wasn`t to me as bad as some users on here have said it certainly wasn`t as good as it could have been. Unlike most classic horror films The orgional Wicker Man in 1973 to me has dated and could have been improved upon with an increase of more intense horror and tension. So it was a disappointment to me to see that it was a 12a and apart from the lack of naff folk songs and lots of beautiful cinematography (which was to its credit) had been toned down diluting it`s main source of impact and no doubt having cut scenes from the orgional that would have been powerfully effective. The main musical score wasn`t anyway near as chilling as in the origional nor was the memorable Wicker Man ceromony climax (the only time a pagan song would have been appropriate).

I think it was right to have the ladies in charge of the island and not the men when you do take into account the sacred female Pagan idelogy however great actress though Ellen Burstyn (excuse the spelling) is she just wasn`t anywhere near as chilling and sinster as Christopher Lee was as the leader of the islands community in this. With the sexual undertones of the islands extreme form of Paganism also toned down with no nakedness the whole build up to the films climax (no pun intended!)was far too short of real scares and thrills with only a few mostly down to Nicholas Cages troubled characters frequent nightmares and flashbacks.

It`s a watachable film for say TV but not one I would say you have to catch on the big screen and buy on DVD and not better or as good as the orgional like I thought it would be. Mind you the "I said move away from the bike" moment when Nicholas Cage points a gun at the school teacher who`s in fancy dress for The Wicker Man cermony as a black crow was unintentionally very funny! I think I would like to see The Directors Cut on DVD and may rent it which I recommend you do or buy not this lacklustre version. Better off just seeing the trailer for the remake in fact than the film its for as it has all the debatable good bits in it, is more exciting and practically covers most of the film anyway!     

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RE: The Wicker Man - 1/9/2006 3:32:33 PM   
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Felix you might want to edit your post as you've got your verdict from the Empire review.  You naughty naughty person you.

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RE: The Wicker Man - 1/9/2006 3:34:13 PM   
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RE: The Wicker Man - 1/9/2006 4:03:25 PM   
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He was, like, joking?

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RE: The Wicker Man - 1/9/2006 4:03:46 PM   
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hey guys can somebody tell the exact ending, please don't tell me it was all a dream or something!! I want to know what happened!

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RE: The Wicker Man - 1/9/2006 4:16:40 PM   
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councilskivvy, I'm pretty sure I already pm'd you that info this morning. Check your inbox.

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oh lord oh jesus christ - 1/9/2006 5:02:47 PM   
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no fuckin stars,what in the name of christ have i just watched this film is FUCKIN terrible YOU CANNOT REPAINT THE MONA LISA when o fuckin when will sillywood realise this,fuck you nic cage you are crap,oscar or not i dont care,oh my god what remake is next,BEWARE EMPIRE READERS AVOID THIS SHITE

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oh lord oh jesus christ - 1/9/2006 5:02:54 PM   
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no fuckin stars,what in the name of christ have i just watched this film is FUCKIN terrible YOU CANNOT REPAINT THE MONA LISA when o fuckin when will sillywood realise this,fuck you nic cage you are crap,oscar or not i dont care,oh my god what remake is next,BEWARE EMPIRE READERS AVOID THIS SHITE

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oh lord oh jesus christ - 1/9/2006 5:03:14 PM   
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no fuckin stars,what in the name of christ have i just watched this film is FUCKIN terrible YOU CANNOT REPAINT THE MONA LISA when o fuckin when will sillywood realise this,fuck you nic cage you are crap,oscar or not i dont care,oh my god what remake is next,BEWARE EMPIRE READERS AVOID THIS SHITE

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RE: oh lord oh jesus christ - 1/9/2006 5:57:11 PM   
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I've watched a lot of bad horror, from Rawhead Rex to Howling 5, but this is a new low, the dullest thing I've seen all year. It makes no sense, crap flashbacks and attempts at jump moments, an ending that had people laughing.

Rather than showing a scene of torture is has a voice over describing it ???? WTF it's a horror film, they should be relishing the chance to show some bone cracking. Then there's the bit after the film... a Howling style it aint over moment, truly crap.

Only thing that saved it was the leading lady's lips , so very kissable oh and that Leelee sebowkiwhatshername. Both stunningly beautiful.

Nic Cage was duller than Tom Hanks in The Da Vinci code.

AVOID AT ALL COSTS

-3 / 5

And this is from someone who thought The Fog remake was a 1 star film.

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