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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 3:49:36 PM   
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The Baines/Cole thing doesn't really bother me - choosing between two great left backs is far less worrying than having no good right backs.


I don't think right back is that much of a problem area, Richards, Johnson and Walker ain't that bad a selection to choose from. Richards get criticised for his defensive play but I would still rate him ahead of Walker and Johnson in that area of their games.

The more worrying area for me is in the centre of defence, I don't have much confidence in Cahill so Jones and Smalling really need to step it up and progress this year. Caulker made the right move for his career in the long run but I fear despite any good form he shows he will be overlooked due to his playing for Cardiff City.


No doubt. Playing regularly for a club like Cardiff - and playing well - is no match for playing every now and then for Man U or Man City. Just ask England squad ever presents like Milner and Welbeck...
I'm not as convinced by those three right backs as you are (apart from Richards who I do rate but seems to be persona non grata with Hodgson after knocking back the stand-by offer last year, and is in the same boat as Milner and Welbeck when it comes to club appearances anyway) though I agree that the central defence is a more worrying area. Then again, every area has some cause for worry where England are concerned. Personally I try not to get too het up about it and just enjoy the games: I already support one under-achieving team who've won nowt since the '60s, I haven't got the energy to pull my hair out over another.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 5:50:11 PM   
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No doubt. Playing regularly for a club like Cardiff - and playing well - is no match for playing every now and then for Man U or Man City. Just ask England squad ever presents like Milner and Welbeck...


Bit harsh on The Manc Pele there. I mean, I agree with your sentiment, but still - he only scores for England.


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I'm not as convinced by those three right backs as you are (apart from Richards who I do rate but seems to be persona non grata with Hodgson after knocking back the stand-by offer last year, and is in the same boat as Milner and Welbeck when it comes to club appearances anyway)


They all have their faults, but they're all capable (if a long way from world-class) players. Walker would probably not be my first choice, but I don't think he's as bad as many others seem to. I'd also point out that Jenkinson and Kelly are potentials if they are able to start playing more regular first-team football, and like Smalling and Jones have a certain versatility that comes in handy at international level.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 5:58:27 PM   
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on Jenkinson - Sagna has apparently turned down the contract offer Arsenal made to him (it was only for one year, never a good idea) so you may very well see the Jenks playing more regularly in the future. It would be fun to see an England team with Jenkinson, Gibbs (even though he'll never get in front of Cole/Baines and I'd imagine Shaw will be preferred by the time those two have retired), Wilshere, Walcott and Oxlade-Chamberlain after all the talk of Arsene marginalising English players over the years.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 6:57:25 PM   
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I'm going with 2-0, a performance would be be nice but I would happily take 1-0 with an 85th minute goaline scramble tap in.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 7:31:56 PM   
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Pretty much everything I've seen and read seems to indicate a comfortable England win, and I have to say that surprises me a fair bit. Poland are a useful outfit, and are more than capable of turning England over.

I honestly think this will be a horribly tense affair. Hope I'm wrong of course.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 7:46:30 PM   
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It's quite funny, and a little strange, how much praise Hodgson has got from the press for his 'bold' decisions for these two games...playing an attacking wide player at home, ahead of Milner, is considered 'bold' and today with Carrick. Is it really that much of a risk playing either of those?

Not that I'm knocking Roy. Just find it a little strange how much credit he's getting from the usually cynical press.

Pretty confident for tonight...Poland are a decent team but that's it. The two Dortmund boys are exceptional, however.

EDIT: I meant critical, rather than cynical.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 8:05:48 PM   
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It's quite funny, and a little strange, how much praise Hodgson has got from the press for his 'bold' decisions for these two games...playing an attacking wide player at home, ahead of Milner, is considered 'bold' and today with Carrick. Is it really that much of a risk playing either of those?

Not that I'm knocking Roy. Just find it a little strange how much credit he's getting from the usually cynical press.


I think it makes a pleasant change from the usual knee-jerk frothing. It'll all change if we don't win tonight though.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 8:07:46 PM   
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That noise from the Poland fans is unreal! Can you imagine any other country's football association allowing a quarter of the stadium to be away fans? Not a chance!

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 8:09:48 PM   
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That noise from the Poland fans is unreal! Can you imagine any other country's football association allowing a quarter of the stadium to be away fans? Not a chance!


I'm pretty sure half our stadium was Polish when we played them last.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 8:11:20 PM   
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The alternative is the usual funereal atmosphere at Wembley though. I quite like that the Poland fans are showing up the England crowd as the bunch of latte-drinking cucumber munchers that they are.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 8:11:57 PM   
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That noise from the Poland fans is unreal! Can you imagine any other country's football association allowing a quarter of the stadium to be away fans? Not a chance!


I'm pretty sure half our stadium was Polish when we played them last.

Okay, no other FA other than the Irish FA!

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 8:16:30 PM   
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The alternative is the usual funereal atmosphere at Wembley though. I quite like that the Poland fans are showing up the England crowd as the bunch of latte-drinking cucumber munchers that they are.

Oh, absolutely. I just don't see anyone else giving the opposing team that perceived advantage.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 8:24:07 PM   
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This is very entertaining if you support Poland. Me? I am fairly close to a cardiac arrest.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 8:27:16 PM   
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So Townsend's picked up where he left off then. That's something at least!

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 8:31:19 PM   
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I tell you what, this has been a great game so far.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 8:34:22 PM   
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Welbeck you pillock!

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 8:35:37 PM   
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Welbeck you pillock!


Manc Pele will score. Put your mortgage on it.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 8:36:47 PM   
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Theo may have problems getting his place back.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 8:37:19 PM   
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Welbeck you pillock!


Manc Pele will score. Put your mortgage on it.

I like him but he sometimes looks like he's never touched a football in his life!

Townsend and Gerrard have been effing brilliant

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 8:41:19 PM   
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ROONEY!!!

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 8:41:24 PM   
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Cracking goal!

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 8:47:30 PM   
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Doing well,need to keep it up.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 8:49:56 PM   
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Like a cock-end I managed to spread red wine all over my living room and myself when Rooney scored then. Just spent the last 10 minutes desperately cleaning it all up, but I've probably kissed goodbye to my deposit and England shirt. Worth it though.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 8:53:05 PM   
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Like a cock-end I managed to spread red wine all over my living room and myself when Rooney scored then. Just spent the last 10 minutes desperately cleaning it all up, but I've probably kissed goodbye to my deposit and England shirt. Worth it though.

You need a product called Wine-Away...it's saved me on many occasions!

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 9:04:31 PM   
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Like a cock-end I managed to spread red wine all over my living room and myself when Rooney scored then. Just spent the last 10 minutes desperately cleaning it all up, but I've probably kissed goodbye to my deposit and England shirt. Worth it though.

You need a product called Wine-Away...it's saved me on many occasions!


All I had was kitchen roll and a rinse cycle

Classic England so far - bright first half, dodgy start to the second. Poland will score in this game, 1 goal will not be enough.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 9:39:42 PM   
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Why did Carrick come off for Lampard?

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 9:43:48 PM   
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WATCH OUT BRAZIL!

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 9:44:36 PM   
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GET. THE. FUCK. INNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!

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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 9:50:54 PM   
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Poland will score in this game, 1 goal will not be enough.




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RE: The England Football Thread - 15/10/2013 9:53:23 PM   
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Cool.

Everyone did a great job tonight.Solid performance.

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