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RE: The England Football Thread - 28/5/2013 7:37:29 PM   
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So, now Ashley will captain England to celebrate his 100th cap on his 102nd appearance (this obviously makes sense to someone somewhere).

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 1:17:49 PM   
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So, now Ashley will captain England to celebrate his 100th cap on his 102nd appearance (this obviously makes sense to someone somewhere).


Yes, I wouldn't leave Ashley Cole in charge of a jelly, let alone the England football team, I don't care how many caps he has, I doubt he could to count to 100 anyway so if we hadn't told him about it I'm not sure he'd even know he was there. For example, his Twitter feed reads like that of a 12 year-old child with a serious personality disorder. "Twitter iz full of melts yeah blud."

One of many reasons I probably won't be watching the game.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 1:28:04 PM   
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Far, far too much importance is placed on the captaincy. It's really not that big a deal, and I think giving a player who has earned 100 caps the armband for a end-of-season friendly as some kind of recognition is fair enough in my book. Not many England players make it to 100 after all (Cole is only the 7th). For all his faults, Cole has been a superlative player for England, never backs out of the squad with mysterious injuries that take a week to get over and has often been pretty much the only one to turn up in tournaments. For a good number of years he was our best player, probably the best in his position in the world, and can still do the job (even though I'd probably make him second choice to Baines now), but people still loathe him. I wonder if that would happen in other countries.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 1:43:18 PM   
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One of many reasons I probably won't be watching the game.


Ironically, though I think this will be a very poor game I'm very interested in watching it. And not just to see who (if anyone) has bragging rights at work tomorrow.

Sturridge has, as the kids say, smashed it since moving to Liverpool and it will be interesting to see if he can follow this form through to international level. His competition is not strong, mainly comprising of Wellbeck, who armed with a banjo may not hit a donkey's arse. So I think a great opportunity for him.

And then with have Wayne. It will be interesting to see what frame of mind he is in. It feels to me like most Utd fans would be happy to get him off the wage bill if a reasonable offer came in and he might want to show them and Moyes that he still has a lot to offer when selected. Or he might feel like putting on a show for PSG and / or Chelsea. Or he might just turn up and wander round with a fag in his hand.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 1:53:21 PM   
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Do people still not like Ashley Cole for reasons people shouldn't concern themselves with? He's been England's best player since he broke into the team, he shows commitment and professionalism on the pitch that few other players do and he'll go down as an England great. It's about time more England captains starting calling the FA twats (they are!) and telling journalists to get fucked.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 2:00:48 PM   
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I quite agree that players who reach the 100 cap should get some recognition. I'm just bemused that this wasn't done at his 100th cap, but the 102nd. Cole has been a great player and an England stalwart - I can't be bothered to look it up, but I expect he's made himself available for more friendlies etc than a lot of players who always pick up a knock before the game.

And I also agree that captaincy is really over-rated in football. Unfortunately we seem very stuck in the mindset that a single player is greater than the team and its important that we have a Rooney / Beckham / Wilshere figure that we can get the ball to and he's going to win the game single-handedly than a team playing for each other who could actually complete 3 passes without losing the ball.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 2:05:54 PM   
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102 is the new 100.

Was his 100th cap away from home? Maybe they wanted him to lead the team out at Wembley?

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 2:14:05 PM   
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I'm not 102 or even 100% sure, but I think it was the friendly against Brazil at Wembley.

I still maintain that 100 caps is worth notice and honour, but it feels a bit like celebrating Christmas in the middle of February.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 2:36:45 PM   
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Wasn't there something to do with Gerrard being recognised for getting 100 caps on the night Cole actually got his 100th cap? I'm sure I remember a surreal situation like that.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 2:59:58 PM   
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IS that code for Stevie G wouldn't give up the arm band

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 8:10:36 PM   
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Pretty decent atmosphere at Wembley for once.

Great header that.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 8:13:13 PM   
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Good goal that.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 8:13:18 PM   
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WHAT A GOAL!

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 8:20:05 PM   
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Why is Lampard given responsibility for set-pieces? If he's the best one in the team at taking them then it's pretty desperate, because he's rubbish at it.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 8:21:10 PM   
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Why is Lampard given responsibility for set-pieces? If he's the best one in the team at taking them then it's pretty desperate, because he's rubbish at it.


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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 8:22:24 PM   
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WHAT A GOAL!

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 8:22:30 PM   
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Captains goal that!

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 8:22:50 PM   
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Balls. Such a sloppy goal to give away, as usual.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 8:23:29 PM   
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Only one goal behind Shearer. That's some going for a midfielder that.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 8:30:11 PM   
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Why is Lampard given responsibility for set-pieces? If he's the best one in the team at taking them then it's pretty desperate, because he's rubbish at it.


You think you have it bad, we have Pighead Whelan taking our freekicks!

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 8:30:29 PM   
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Just tuned in. Have England managed to retain possession for more than 2-3 passes?

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 8:31:41 PM   
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Just tuned in. Have England managed to retain possession for more than 2-3 passes?


On occasion, but then Rooney gets the ball and it all goes to pot.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 8:33:35 PM   
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Rooney is playing shite isn't he.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 8:34:24 PM   
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Ugh, Jermain Defoe. Has he even scored this year? Can't we put Rooney or Feo up top and bring on Jack Rodwell instead?

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 8:36:01 PM   
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Ah I see, his first touch has seriously eluded him recently. Damn, was beginning to enjoy watching sturridge...

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 8:36:02 PM   
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Rooney is playing shite isn't he.


I think it's just the 40 fags, calzone and bottle of Southern Comfort he had before bed last night, nothing more.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 8:38:59 PM   
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Ugh, Jermain Defoe. Has he even scored this year? Can't we put Rooney or Feo up top and bring on Jack Rodwell instead?


There was that tasty finish against city but other than that... It just highlights the huge lack of talent we have upfront.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 8:42:28 PM   
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Just a few days ago I was watching the CL final. Hard to imagine the 4 teams are playing the same game.

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 8:42:38 PM   
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I just tuned in for the last 5mins. Christ we are awful !!

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RE: The England Football Thread - 29/5/2013 8:43:52 PM   
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Cast iron penalty!!!

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