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RE: Red Tails.... - 12/4/2009 11:30:58 PM   
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One of the guys on the historic aviation forum that I post on has been supplying props to them already....

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RE: Red Tails.... - 15/4/2009 4:28:44 PM   
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Anything cool?

Did you see Spike Lee's Miracle At St. Anna? That flopped big in the States and I don't think it's going to get a theatrical release here.

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RE: Red Tails.... - 28/4/2009 2:52:17 PM   
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From the Warbird Information Exchange:

http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=29630

From the last poster: "filming with live aircraft... (2xP-40 and 3xP-51)", plus the possibility of a B-17....!

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RE: George Lucas's Red Tails - 29/4/2009 11:21:45 AM   
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I'm surprised that no set/cast pics have been put online. I've heard Ne-Yo's filmed a music video whilst in Prague so they've clearly been there a while.

Can't wait to see Method Man and co in their WWII flight suits.

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RE: George Lucas's Red Tails - 29/4/2009 11:24:02 AM   
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Ti,

If you follow the link to the WIX page, there are clips on YouTube apparently of some of the filming going on.  Can't vouch for it as I can't watch videos at work.

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RE: George Lucas's Red Tails - 29/4/2009 11:28:31 AM   
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Neither can I.

I just want pics. Or concept art. Or something. Give me something, George! SOMETHING!

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RE: George Lucas's Red Tails - 29/4/2009 11:30:28 AM   
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Did you not see the P-40?!

http://www.planes.cz/cs/photo/1051393/curtiss-p-40n-g-kitt-private-milovice-lkml/?win_res=1024

This is what she normally looks like:

[image]http://www.militaryaircraft.de/pictures/military/aircraft/P-40/P-40M_RIAT2007_2407_800.jpg[/image]

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RE: George Lucas's Red Tails - 1/5/2009 9:25:54 AM   
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I had a look at the YouTube stuff last night.  While it's not much in terms of actual filming, what it is is several minutes of gorgeous P-51D Mustangs in all their 332nd FG glory!

[image]http://www.flagworld.com/photos/d/347299-1/Tuskegee_Airmen_Red_Tail_Mustang.jpg[/image]

A bit miffed that there's been no sign of a Bf109G yet, though.  There's three they could have had from Germany, and one from the UK....

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RE: George Lucas's Red Tails - 3/5/2009 7:55:15 PM   
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A couple of things from the website of one of the warbird operators involved in the filming, based at North Weald in Essex....

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P40M Kittyhawk
 
Delays in progressing our Mustang can be blamed on the all out effort to get “Kitty” ready to go on her filming mission to the Czech Republic. During February, March and part of April the team led by Chris Norris our chief engineer, worked flat out to complete her Annual inspection and to refit her prop which had been away for overhaul. These efforts culminated in an aircraft “fit for flight” on 16th April and the start of a great adventure to fly on the set of a new big budget move called “ Red Tails”.
 
George Lucas ( producer of Star Wars) decided to personally fund a movie about the famous Tuskegee Airmen, the coloured flyers based in Tuscany in Italy in 1944. You may recall that they never lost a B17 under their protection on any mission into enemy territory. These squadrons also bred some of the most famous and decorated fighter aces of WW2, such names as Roscoe Brown and Lee Archer, both of whom we had the honour to meet on set. Colonel Lee Archer flew no less that 169 missions on his tour of duty in 1944/45.
 
The location was a deserted cold war Russian base at Milovice 50 kms outside Prague. When operational Milovice housed some 35,000 service personnel and dozens of MIG jets ready for action against the West. Peter flew the Kittyhawk on the 700 mile journey, departing under leaden skies on Thursday 16th April. With just one fuel stop at Frankfurt, and with total flight time of some 3.5 hours they safely touched down at Milovice on a splendid spring evening to start an adventure.
 
Next day the aircraft was cleaned and then over the next 72 hours was painted in washable paint and transformed into a P40 of the 332nd Fighter Group. The set was huge and consisted of a complete WW2 fighter base with hundreds of extras and a big cast of young black actors. The set was detailed to be a perfect representation of the base in Tuscany, complete with imported Cyprus trees and PSP metal sheeting to strengthen the grass areas.This was a big budget movie and there were 3 full sized mock up P40’s together with 3 similar P51 Mustangs.
 
You may recall that our Mustang is an original 332nd Fighter Group veteran, so we had been asked to take her along but Peter was loathed to allow his prized “JJ” to be painted, so he declined. The flying compliment included 3 Mustangs, 2 Kittyhawks and the French B17 “ Pink Lady”. Flying and taxiing duties began for Peter on the following Monday with extensive shooting of the aircraft in back shots taxiing past. All sequences were shot with Peter in full period costume but in addition, a brown ski mask covering his face !!
 
Peter led several missions with the French P40 performing close formation and placing the aircraft in precise locations as requested by the director. This involved many passes at different levels, aerobatic manoeuvres, close positioning at varied heights on camera positions located on cranes and fixed locations in buildings and many hours of accurate flying and thinking on his feet. Peter’s vast experience on the display circuit was decisive as he managed to lead the formations skilfully and successfully. The film company were delighted with the footage, especially a sunset sequence shot late in the afternoon.
 
The flying finished later that week but when then came time for the Mustangs to launch and for the 2 P40’s to be washed and prepared for flight home. The Hangar 11 crew on site decided that the plane looked just great and that we should attempt to nurse the temporary paint scheme for the 2009 season and so she has returned to the UK in film paint on 25th April. There are some photos on the Kittyhawk images page but see her yourself at Abingdon on Sunday 3rd May and later that day at Old Warden Airshow. This paint scheme is really special as the effects of “ageing” perfected by the artistic department are superb.This film will potentially have more real warbird flying than any movie since Battle of Britain in 1969.


Pics of the P-40 in action on the set:
http://www.hangar11.co.uk/gallery.php?id=7



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RE: George Lucas's Red Tails - 4/5/2009 1:21:16 PM   
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Not entirely off-topic, but a "Red Tail"-marked P-51 Mustang is being rebuilt to fly:

http://warbirdinformationexchange.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=29751



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RE: George Lucas's Red Tails - 11/5/2009 9:07:41 PM   
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So after finally watching The Tuskegee Airmen, I'm very excited about seeing this now. 

Ti, I love how your initial thoughts were that it would be an inferior version - I've already said in the War film thread that I think the film was bit of a missed opportunity so I'm hoping this new one will wipe the floor with the original!


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RE: George Lucas's Red Tails - 18/5/2009 3:12:50 PM   
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I like what the original did with the budget it had. Red Tails's budget is probably 10x as much!

Anyway, looks like Denzel Washington is doing his own 'Black Soldiers in WW2' epic after Spike Lee's Miracle in St. Anna flopped huge.


Matthew Sand ("Ninja Assassin," "The Red Star") is set to rewrite the WW2 drama "Brothers in Arms" for Alcon Entertainment says The Hollywood Reporter.
 
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar and Anthony Walton penned the non-fiction book about the only black U.S. tank unit to fight in Europe during the Second World War.
 
The unit overcame prejudice and sought to prove themselves on the battlefield by spearheading the Allied Forces' drive eastward toward Germany during the Battle of the Bulge and liberating nearly three dozen towns along the way
 
Denzel Washington is attached to direct as well as produce alongside Broderick Johnson and Andrew Kosove. David Chisholm and John Sayles wrote previous drafts.
 
THE Kareem Abdul Jabbar?!?! Awesome!

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RE: Red Tails.... - 26/5/2009 11:34:25 PM   
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[image]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/DazDaMan/photo.jpg[/image]

Fucking awesome!!

Hmm... I dunno why this bloody link isn't turning into an awesome photo of a B-17G being escorted by two red-nosed Mustangs, but that's what it is, anyway!  Guess you'll have to copy and paste the link...

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RE: Red Tails.... - 27/5/2009 8:30:00 AM   
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[image]http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3390/3484549442_45d9447af8.jpg[/image]

Feck's sake, that's not worked, either!

Anyway, it's a photo of two red-tail Mustangs on the set.  Not sure whether they are the real McCoy or fibreglass mock-ups, to be honest, but they look sweeeet!

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RE: Red Tails.... - 27/5/2009 9:07:38 AM   
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  I want one!!!


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RE: Red Tails.... - 27/5/2009 10:20:35 AM   
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They look great. Good to see Lucasfilm relying on actual planes and models as opposed to just ILM's talent.

Can't wait to see the cast in action and a first trailer and as I'm recently getting into The Wire, it'll be interesting to see Hemmingway's direction.

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RE: Red Tails.... - 27/5/2009 10:22:35 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DazDaMan

[image]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v655/DazDaMan/photo.jpg[/image]

Fucking awesome!!

Hmm... I dunno why this bloody link isn't turning into an awesome photo of a B-17G being escorted by two red-nosed Mustangs, but that's what it is, anyway!  Guess you'll have to copy and paste the link...


Cock, I thought quoting my message would bring the pic up.  Oh well...

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RE: George Lucas's Red Tails - 27/5/2009 10:26:02 AM   
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Unfortunately images don't show up in Future Films threads. At all.

No idea why....

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RE: George Lucas's Red Tails - 27/5/2009 10:41:03 AM   
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That's slightly annoying...!



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RE: George Lucas's Red Tails - 27/5/2009 11:05:10 AM   
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Nice pic Timon

Good to hear they are actually building full size sets for this and using real flight footage rather than CGIing everything.

(although i'm sure George won't be able to resist som post production tinkering)

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RE: George Lucas's Red Tails - 27/5/2009 11:22:12 AM   
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It's a pity there probably won't be a real Luftwaffe element in the film - there's three flyable Bf109Gs in Germany (rebuilt Spanish Messerschmitts), as well as an Me262 Stormbird and a couple of Focke-Wulf 190s (albeit new-builds rather than genuine wartime examples).  There's also another FW-190 in France and a couple of Spanish-built Messerschmitts in the UK...

[image]http://th01.deviantart.com/fs41/300W/f/2009/006/7/f/hispano_buchon_G_BWUE_by_Sceptre63.jpg[/image]

(The aircraft in the picture was featured briefly in Valkyrie, along with one of the German-registered Bf109Gs)

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RE: George Lucas's Red Tails - 27/5/2009 6:11:16 PM   
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http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/showthread.php?t=91115

There are links to more Red Tails flying shots on this forum.  Lovely stuff!

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RE: George Lucas's Red Tails - 27/5/2009 6:26:38 PM   
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More pics of the Mustangs:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/North-American-P-51D/1526415/M/

Replica:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/North-American-P-51D/1526414/M/

Possibly a real one:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/North-American-P-51D/1526413/M/

Replica(?) P-40:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Curtiss-P-40M-Warhawk/1526184/M/

UK-based C-47 Skytrain:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Douglas-C-47A-75-DL-Skytrain/1526183/M/

UK-based P-40M G-KITT:
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Curtiss-P-40M-Warhawk/1524144/M/
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Curtiss-P-40M-Warhawk/1521536/M/
http://www.airliners.net/photo/Curtiss-P-40M-Warhawk/1524645/M/

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RE: George Lucas's Red Tails - 9/6/2009 3:25:01 PM   
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Oooooh. Apparantly things are going so well in Prague, Lucas wants to shoot the Star Wars TV Series there.


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RE: George Lucas's Red Tails: Pictures - 24/6/2009 2:45:14 PM   
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On set photos have made their way online including some shots of the cast in uniform - http://www.kamuiweb.com/news-3105-hyperespace-red-tails--photos-de-tournage.html

Also, set pics of the planes are plentiful - http://www.flickr.com/photos/hansmannn/sets/72157617361450240/


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RE: George Lucas's Red Tails: Pictures - 24/6/2009 2:49:00 PM   
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Feck, I'll need to look at these when I get home...

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RE: Red Tails.... - 27/6/2009 12:31:31 PM   
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George Lucas has got to be the LAZIEST man in the history of modern cinema.

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RE: Red Tails.... - 3/12/2009 10:40:05 AM   
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So, no production images, no leaks of any kind and no word of a trailer...




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RE: Red Tails.... - 3/12/2009 12:34:16 PM   
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Is this even in production? At any level? Those pictures just look like tourist snaps from an air show. I though Lucas was working on the live action Star Wars TV series, and contemplating just how to shit on my childhood again with a further outing for Indy.

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RE: Red Tails.... - 15/2/2010 1:57:04 PM   
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Isn't it odd we haven't seen any production photos or trailers yet?

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