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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 5/3/2008 11:24:20 PM   
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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 6/3/2008 12:52:31 PM   
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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 6/3/2008 4:54:26 PM   
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Impossibly vague teaser from Nick Wrigley for what's lined up for 2008

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Later in 2008, in addition to releasing previously announced titles (including our SILENT LUBITSCH box set, PHANTOM, VAMPYR, and MAD DETECTIVE), we shall also be releasing previously unannounced MoC titles made in the years:

1924, 1931, 1932, 1963, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1969, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1976, 1978, 1989, 1992, 1994, 1997, 1997, 1998, 2004.

by directors whose surnames begin with:

A, D, F, G, J, L, M, M, P, R, T, V (only two of which have films in the MoC Series already).

-- and there's more to come...


Also said it will be July before these mystery titles start coming out and they will only officially announce stuff 2 months in advance,so first announcement in May.Only things I can really take from that is they plan on releasing at least 20 previously unannounced titles over the space of just 6 months which is great but there's no N for Naruse or H for Hou which isn't great.



I have a feeling that the G is Godard, and the film could be A Married Woman, or The Riflemen. I'd be ecstatic if that was true, as there among the few 60's Godard films I have not seen, and they are near-impossible to track down in a decent subtitled form. The V is Visconti, I reckon, the R could be Rivette or Renoir (or maybe Resnais), the J could be Jarmusch, the D could be more Dreyer (please let it be The Passion of Joan of Arc). Can't wait to find out what they could be- this tease has really caught my interest.

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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 6/3/2008 5:01:22 PM   
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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 6/3/2008 6:03:12 PM   
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Impossibly vague teaser from Nick Wrigley for what's lined up for 2008

quote:


Later in 2008, in addition to releasing previously announced titles (including our SILENT LUBITSCH box set, PHANTOM, VAMPYR, and MAD DETECTIVE), we shall also be releasing previously unannounced MoC titles made in the years:

1924, 1931, 1932, 1963, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1969, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1976, 1978, 1989, 1992, 1994, 1997, 1997, 1998, 2004.

by directors whose surnames begin with:

A, D, F, G, J, L, M, M, P, R, T, V (only two of which have films in the MoC Series already).

-- and there's more to come...


Also said it will be July before these mystery titles start coming out and they will only officially announce stuff 2 months in advance,so first announcement in May.Only things I can really take from that is they plan on releasing at least 20 previously unannounced titles over the space of just 6 months which is great but there's no N for Naruse or H for Hou which isn't great.



I have a feeling that the G is Godard, and the film could be A Married Woman, or The Riflemen. I'd be ecstatic if that was true, as there among the few 60's Godard films I have not seen, and they are near-impossible to track down in a decent subtitled form. The V is Visconti, I reckon, the R could be Rivette or Renoir (or maybe Resnais), the J could be Jarmusch, the D could be more Dreyer (please let it be The Passion of Joan of Arc). Can't wait to find out what they could be- this tease has really caught my interest.

It would be awesome if they released A Married Woman


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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 6/3/2008 6:17:17 PM   
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D could be more Dreyer (please let it be The Passion of Joan of Arc)


It can't be- the years are all wrong. The only Dreyer films that match the years are Michael (already been released), Vampyr (about to be released, and so doesn't count) and Gertrud (of which I've heard no rumours about).

Frankly, the amount of films they could be is so large that speculation is pretty futile (although Visconti looks like the best bet at the moment).

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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 6/3/2008 6:40:54 PM   
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Later in 2008, in addition to releasing previously announced titles (including our SILENT LUBITSCH box set, PHANTOM, VAMPYR, and MAD DETECTIVE), we shall also be releasing previously unannounced MoC titles made in the years:

1924, 1931, 1932, 1963, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1969, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1976, 1978, 1989, 1992, 1994, 1997, 1997, 1998, 2004.

by directors whose surnames begin with:

A, D, F, G, J, L, M, M, P, R, T, V (only two of which have films in the MoC Series already).

-- and there's more to come...





must be the most intentionally idiotic thing i've seen online in a loooooonnnnnggg time. do we really need to encourage people to spend an age online discussing what should need to be discussed in any other way than from the perspective of available, perfectly-reasonable-to-expect-it-to-be-just-said-so-we-can-get-on-with-life information, and not to drag people into petty, inconsequential, utterly inane and counter-productive discussions? if you know, MoC, just say what's in the pipeline. if it's not worthwhile doing it this far ahead - and no, this doesn't include any contradictory requirement for hype / gossip / buzz - then simply don't even hint at what's coming.

i'm not going to apply a moments more thought to this. when the titles are revealed, i'll know instantly if i'm interested or not.

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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 6/3/2008 7:25:51 PM   
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D could be more Dreyer (please let it be The Passion of Joan of Arc)


It can't be- the years are all wrong. The only Dreyer films that match the years are Michael (already been released), Vampyr (about to be released, and so doesn't count) and Gertrud (of which I've heard no rumours about).

Frankly, the amount of films they could be is so large that speculation is pretty futile (although Visconti looks like the best bet at the moment).


Damn it, I forgot to check out the years. Ah well, I'm still hoping for one of those films to be A Married Woman.... it all matches up.... please let it be so....

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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 6/3/2008 9:23:23 PM   
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D could be more Dreyer (please let it be The Passion of Joan of Arc)


It can't be- the years are all wrong. The only Dreyer films that match the years are Michael (already been released), Vampyr (about to be released, and so doesn't count) and Gertrud (of which I've heard no rumours about).


Gertude has already been released by BFI hasn't it ?

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must be the most intentionally idiotic thing i've seen online in a loooooonnnnnggg time. do we really need to encourage people to spend an age online discussing what should need to be discussed in any other way than from the perspective of available,
perfectly-reasonable-to-expect-it-to-be-just-said-so-we-can-get-on-with-life information, and not to drag people into petty, inconsequential, utterly inane and counter-productive discussions?


I doubt anybody is going to spend an age discussing the possibilities but if they did that would be up to them,you seem to be taking what is obviously just a light hearted teaser waaaaaaay too seriously.

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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 7/3/2008 7:36:39 AM   
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I doubt anybody is going to spend an age discussing the possibilities but if they did that would be up to them,you seem to be taking what is obviously just a light hearted teaser waaaaaaay too seriously.



considering the distance between here and even the first announcement (two months) and the potential for it to be in reference to work stretching over a loooong period of time, and that we've already gone through a couple of pages around here in one way or another, i don't hold with encouraging what amounts to petty, inconsequential, unnecessary distractions to the decent discussions and worthwhile issues.

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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 7/3/2008 2:09:45 PM   
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From the way it's worded the May announcement will be the July releases and so on,I kind of get your point but don't see the problem with the teaser,just a bit of fun.I liked when the used to give out release info way in advance it saved the possibility of buying something only for it come out in a better version 6 months or so down the line.

Anyway some bad news regarding Die Nibelungen,there was an online article in German saying 2009 but MoC are saying they've been told it may be 2010,as it stands only the first part has been completed.
Looks like quite a wait,could conceivably be 2011 before a dvd of this restoration appears so there's one film we can forget about for now,unless they decide to just release the older restoration.

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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 7/3/2008 3:34:10 PM   
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 That was bad news indeed. I obviously won't have to get rid of my old version of Die Nibelungen in the nearest future. I still hope they wait till the restoration's been completed though. I don't mind waiting if the finished product is great.

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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 7/3/2008 5:38:54 PM   
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From the way it's worded the May announcement will be the July releases and so on,I kind of get your point but don't see the problem with the teaser,just a bit of fun.


a bit of fun would be a bit of respite from trivia and gossip.

i understand there are issues to be dealt with, so i don't shy away from repeatedly pushing issues upfront when talking about them, just to try and ensure not everyone is silent on things that annoy them, i hate the idea of a label - supposedly quite refined and clever about how they go about things - would actively encourage trivial discussions when thats the kind of thing that plagues us getting to the necessary information, pushing for more worthwhile things to be done by companies. looking at a couple of the suggested titles, especially 'mad detective' (which i've recently seen, quite like it, but it's characteristically HK in too many ways), i would think there's the potential for things to have suddenly taken a turn for the slightly worse.

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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 7/3/2008 9:14:19 PM   
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i hate the idea of a label - supposedly quite refined and clever about how they go about things - would actively encourage trivial discussions when thats the kind of thing that plagues us getting to the necessary information, pushing for more worthwhile things to be done by companies. looking at a couple of the suggested titles, especially 'mad detective' (which i've recently seen, quite like it, but it's characteristically HK in too many ways), i would think there's the potential for things to have suddenly taken a turn for the slightly worse.


I really don't get what bothers you so much about this it's not like it's taking the place of a regular announcement.The fact is they are still one of the most open and communicative dvd label around.In the past they would have probably just came right out and given the information on what a lot of these titles were and a rough release schedule well in advance but they had to put up with a lot of online whinging when unforseen circumstances pushed some releases back,so they learned the lesson and don't let much out till they can be more sure of release dates.If the teaser annoys you so much just ignore it and wait till May and they will begin to release the information you want.

Not sure what you mean about the titles showing a potential turn for the worse,out of those that have already been announced Lubitsch boxset,Vampyr,Phantom,Die Nibelungen and Mad Detective,only the latter is in any way a little out of the ordinary compared to what they have been releasing since they started up.I wouldn't really consider releasing a Johnnie To film as letting the standards they have set themselves slip but I would think there's a good chance it will be more commercially successful than a lot of the stuff they release,so if releasing things like that helps keep them afloat and releasing even more marginal interest films then it can only be a good decision.

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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 8/3/2008 8:11:40 AM   
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I really don't get what bothers you so much about this it's not like it's taking the place of a regular announcement.


because the label has been smart, clear, refined, clever... until now.
now, to me, it looks trivial, dumb, ill-considered.

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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 17/3/2008 5:50:26 PM   
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 A lot of these are going for £9.99 on play.com. Thought you fine folk would like to know. I just had Sunrise delivered today, and at that price I'm heavily tempted to pick up a couple more. Click!

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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 17/3/2008 6:21:27 PM   
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A lot of these are going for £9.99 on play.com. Thought you fine folk would like to know. I just had Sunrise delivered today, and at that price I'm heavily tempted to pick up a couple more. Click!


Not bad at all- quite a few (although not as many) are down to 9.98 on Amazon, as well. I'm quite tempted to pick up Kwaidan and F fo Fake- or just one of those, depending on finances. Any opinions on which is the better one to go for?

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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 17/3/2008 6:34:05 PM   
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A lot of these are going for £9.99 on play.com. Thought you fine folk would like to know. I just had Sunrise delivered today, and at that price I'm heavily tempted to pick up a couple more. Click!


Not bad at all- quite a few (although not as many) are down to 9.98 on Amazon, as well. I'm quite tempted to pick up Kwaidan and F fo Fake- or just one of those, depending on finances. Which is the better one to go for?


Apparantly the Criteron version of F For Fake has the documentary Orson Welles: One Man Band on it which shows the final years of his life and clips from his unfinished projects. It is probably worth more than any extra on the MoC copy, and its now even more interesting because Bogdanovitch is going to release Welles last film The Other Side of the Wind soon. So you're probably better off going for the Criterion copy rather than the MoC.


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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 17/3/2008 6:42:37 PM   
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A lot of these are going for £9.99 on play.com. Thought you fine folk would like to know. I just had Sunrise delivered today, and at that price I'm heavily tempted to pick up a couple more. Click!


For £12.99 you can get Sunrise (the same disc) along with Ford's majestic How Green Was My Valley, All About Eve and Gentlemen's Agreement here.
 
cdwow have good prices on MoC DVDs at time. I got a couple for as low as £5.99 a few months back.

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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 17/3/2008 7:24:55 PM   
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 Ah, bollocks - I just had it delivered today, so that link's frustrating! 

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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 17/3/2008 7:44:55 PM   
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A lot of these are going for £9.99 on play.com. Thought you fine folk would like to know. I just had Sunrise delivered today, and at that price I'm heavily tempted to pick up a couple more. Click!


Not bad at all- quite a few (although not as many) are down to 9.98 on Amazon, as well. I'm quite tempted to pick up Kwaidan and F fo Fake- or just one of those, depending on finances. Which is the better one to go for?


Apparantly the Criteron version of F For Fake has the documentary Orson Welles: One Man Band on it which shows the final years of his life and clips from his unfinished projects. It is probably worth more than any extra on the MoC copy, and its now even more interesting because Bogdanovitch is going to release Welles last film The Other Side of the Wind soon. So you're probably better off going for the Criterion copy rather than the MoC.



That Criterion edition sounds truly superb. Guess I'll be getting the MOC disc of Kwaidan, then. Have you seen it, TMWNS?

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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 17/3/2008 8:33:23 PM   
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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 17/3/2008 8:58:35 PM   
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That Criterion edition sounds truly superb. Guess I'll be getting the MOC disc of Kwaidan, then. Have you seen it, TMWNS?


I have,four traditional Japanese type ghost stories that range from ok to excellent.Really the most notable thing about the film is the visual style,almost entirely shot on large sets making very impressive use of lighting and colour which gives it a very surreal feel.Personally I'd say that of the Japanese films they've released it's one of them that I like the least but it's still good.


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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 17/3/2008 9:53:05 PM   
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That Criterion edition sounds truly superb. Guess I'll be getting the MOC disc of Kwaidan, then. Have you seen it, TMWNS?


I have,four traditional Japanese type ghost stories that range from ok to excellent.Really the most notable thing about the film is the visual style,almost entirely shot on large sets making very impressive use of lighting and colour which gives it a very surreal feel.Personally I'd say that of the Japanese films they've released it's one of them that I like the least but it's still good.



Which one is the best? So far, the tale that is illustrated on the cover (can't recall the name) has caught my interest the most.

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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 17/3/2008 10:22:59 PM   
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Kwaidan is excellent though the final story was not really needed I thought. It's a slow moving film but because it's an anthology of stories it helps break it up. 
 
I think it would have been better if the stories The Woman in the Snow and Hoichi the Earless had just been feature length films by themselves.
 
I'm not sure if's it's already been mentioned but the MoC Kwaidan is definitely the way to go. The Criterion version is cut by some twenty minutes IIRC.

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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 17/3/2008 10:45:28 PM   
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Which one is the best? So far, the tale that is illustrated on the cover (can't recall the name) has caught my interest the most.


Hoichi the Earless is the one used for the cover and that's the standout for me,best story and the most impressive visually.Like directorscut,I think that and The Woman in the Snow are the best parts.The opening and closing stories aren't as great but are still quite good particularly the opening one Black Hair which is like a variation on one of the most famous classic Japanese ghost stories Tokaido Yotsuya kaidan. 

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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 18/3/2008 11:45:00 AM   
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Which one is the best? So far, the tale that is illustrated on the cover (can't recall the name) has caught my interest the most.


Hoichi the Earless is the one used for the cover and that's the standout for me,best story and the most impressive visually.Like directorscut,I think that and The Woman in the Snow are the best parts.The opening and closing stories aren't as great but are still quite good particularly the opening one Black Hair which is like a variation on one of the most famous classic Japanese ghost stories Tokaido Yotsuya kaidan. 


That's good to hear. Hoichi the Earless and The Woman in the Snow are the two I am most looking forward to.

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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 18/3/2008 7:16:56 PM   
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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 1/4/2008 9:37:43 PM   
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RE: New Masters of Cinema Titles - 2/4/2008 2:36:54 PM   
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Impossibly vague teaser from Nick Wrigley for what's lined up for 2008

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Later in 2008, in addition to releasing previously announced titles (including our SILENT LUBITSCH box set, PHANTOM, VAMPYR, and MAD DETECTIVE), we shall also be releasing previously unannounced MoC titles made in the years:

1924, 1931, 1932, 1963, 1963, 1964, 1965, 1969, 1972, 1973, 1974, 1976, 1978, 1989, 1992, 1994, 1997, 1997, 1998, 2004.

by directors whose surnames begin with:

A, D, F, G, J, L, M, M, P, R, T, V (only two of which have films in the MoC Series already).

-- and there's more to come...


Also said it will be July before these mystery titles start coming out and they will only officially announce stuff 2 months in advance,so first announcement in May.Only things I can really take from that is they plan on releasing at least 20 previously unannounced titles over the space of just 6 months which is great but there's no N for Naruse or H for Hou which isn't great.



A - Michaelangelo Antonioni ( His first color movie Il Deserto Rosso would be a release i'd love to see)
D - Carl Dreyer (1964) - Gertrud ( I can see this one being a strong possibility)
F - Federico Fellini (1963) - 8 1/2 ( Not keen on this one myself, & there's always The Criterion release to keep fans happy)
G - Mel Gibson (2004) - Passion Of The Christ ( Could this release be plausible?  I'm not too keen on the idea though)
J - Jim Jarmusch ( I'd welcome any release by him but i'm not holding my breath)
L - Fritz Lang (1931) - M ( Surely this needs to be released?)
M - Terrence Malick (1998) - The Thin Red Line ( A deeply profound movie with a strong anti-war message, but could this really be released?)
R - Jean Renoir ( Can't see it being Rivette myself, another  Renoir release looks the most likely)
T - Andrei Tarkovsky ( Agree with Jasiri on this one, although i'd love to be proven wrong)
V - Luchino Visconti (1963) - The Leopard ( The current BFI release makes this one highly unlikely)

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