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Octopussy - 28/7/2006 4:09:17 PM   
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Moores best ( for me anyway) - 20/4/2007 11:29:51 AM   
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This is Moores best bond outing for me. I thought most of the Moore franchise was weak, poor and needed editing and I think Moore is rubbish as James Bond but I think Octopussy is the only good thing to come out of the Moore franchise. Roger Moore may be rubbish as bond but Octopussy is a hugely entertaining film with a neat script and good one liners. The baddies were decent, theres a great story, a nice bond girl and lots of great actiion momments. I like the train scene, the near end momment with the bomb in the circus, the fight when James Bond falls in the river, and theres plenty of other fun action scenes to make a very good bond movie. I loved it.

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Octopussy - 12/5/2007 3:51:06 PM   
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This film is quite enjoyable, a really fun film to watch. Moore looks like he is having a laugh, just really continuing what he is remembered for as Bond. The film in a whole is a daft slpastick adventure with great set pieces and action sequences. The problem with this fim is the other members of the cast, this boast a truely unrememorable villian and plot. The quips come fast and good. Another unrememborable thing about this film is the song. I can't really blame them though, you really can't produce a song with the lyrics, Octopussy. Can you imagine it "Octopussy (da dum da dum da dum) i love your soft delicate touch (de da de da de da)" It sounds dodgy enough already. Anyway this film great fun, a typical Moore Bond movie.

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RE: Octopussy - 8/6/2008 12:48:37 AM   
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This is a real disappointment after the lean, mean and trim "For Your Eyes Only". The bloat has set in with an overly convoluted plot and a clearly-far-too-old Roger Moore smarming his way around India and Germany. The action setpieces are great - the train sequence and the hair-raising climax outside an airborne plane - but there's a lot wrong here too. Adams makes hardly any impression as Octopussy. She's supposed to be a strong, confident woman but she totally melts into Roger's arms after he roughhouses her. The Octopussy female army isn't remotely convincing, and Jourdan is very fey as the baddie. And then there's the puns which we expect in a Roger Moore Bond movie. These ones aren't even good ones.

So, a definite step back from the previous entry.

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RE: Octopussy - 8/6/2008 2:56:29 PM   
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Competes with Moonraker and Die Another Day for the title of worst Bond of all time I reckon.

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RE: Moores best ( for me anyway) - 9/6/2008 1:53:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mrdoom14

This is Moores best bond outing for me. I thought most of the Moore franchise was weak, poor and needed editing and I think Moore is rubbish as James Bond but I think Octopussy is the only good thing to come out of the Moore franchise. Roger Moore may be rubbish as bond but Octopussy is a hugely entertaining film with a neat script and good one liners. The baddies were decent, theres a great story, a nice bond girl and lots of great actiion momments. I like the train scene, the near end momment with the bomb in the circus, the fight when James Bond falls in the river, and theres plenty of other fun action scenes to make a very good bond movie. I loved it.


I value your opinion but I believe that Moore was one of the best Bonds of all time. He injected humour and a new lease of life into a francise that could've completely gone arse over tit.

But yes it was a GOOD film not his best but it was better than moonraker...like thats saying much.

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RE: Octopussy - 10/6/2008 12:47:21 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mackey

Competes with Moonraker and Die Another Day for the title of worst Bond of all time I reckon.

No. The worst bond is either Casino Royale or Diamonds Are Forever.
Octopussy is a fun romp, very much the kids movie addition to the series.

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RE: Octopussy - 10/6/2008 1:46:07 PM   
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this oft-forgotten Bond movie


Sadly it's not oft-forgotten by german television planners.
It's on at leat once every 2-3 months!

There are other Bond films, you know!!!!!!

Sorry, rant over...

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RE: Octopussy - 10/6/2008 4:19:56 PM   
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The most fun Bond movie. No wonder most critics don't like it.

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RE: Octopussy - 12/6/2008 10:04:11 AM   
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One of my fav Bond films and possibly Roger's finest.
Loved the way Bond starts the trail with a seemingly inocuous art fraud/fake scheme and the trail leads ultmately to a planned nuclear attack. Always felt a tad more realistic to me than spaceshuttlles, volcanoes, and some of the more OTT baddies world domination plans.

And Steven Berkoff (hammy or not) is a legend!!!

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RE: Octopussy - 12/6/2008 12:44:29 PM   
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Watched this again recently, Did not enjoy it as much as i used to, but is still a lot of fun.
Good Points
  • Has a unique plot which hasnt been rehashed from another bond film
  • Beautiful Indian locations
  • Moore seems to be enjoying himself
  • Despite silly jokes there is some genuinly chilling sequences such as when the twins chase the double O dressed as  a clown
  • Yo Yo Saw
  • Great Pre Credit Sequence
  • Kamal Khan is funny
  • Q finally gets some Poontang

Bad Points
  • One of th worst and least memorable theme tunes and credit sequence
  • Moore is getting on a bit
  • Andrea Anders as Octopussy is pretty rubbish
  • Steven Berkoff plays the same russian character he did in Rambo
  • A bit silly for its own good (Tarzan Swing)
  • Moore makes a classicly embarrasing Faux Pas ("This should keep you in Curry for a few Weeks!")
  • The Tennis playing ally is pretty pahetic
  • Why the Hell is Q working in the field again!

All in all enjoyable and fun to watch on bank holiday but doesnt touch the Moore films let alone the top ten bond films.


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RE: Octopussy - 12/6/2008 1:37:20 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kylesolo

Watched this again recently, Did not enjoy it as much as i used to, but is still a lot of fun.
Good Points
  • Has a unique plot which hasnt been rehashed from another bond film
  • Beautiful Indian locations
  • Moore seems to be enjoying himself
  • Despite silly jokes there is some genuinly chilling sequences such as when the twins chase the double O dressed as  a clown
  • Yo Yo Saw
  • Great Pre Credit Sequence
  • Kamal Khan is funny
  • Q finally gets some Poontang

Bad Points
  • One of th worst and least memorable theme tunes and credit sequence
  • Moore is getting on a bit
  • Andrea Anders as Octopussy is pretty rubbish
  • Steven Berkoff plays the same russian character he did in Rambo
  • A bit silly for its own good (Tarzan Swing)
  • Moore makes a classicly embarrasing Faux Pas ("This should keep you in Curry for a few Weeks!")
  • The Tennis playing ally is pretty pahetic
  • Why the Hell is Q working in the field again!


All in all enjoyable and fun to watch on bank holiday but doesnt touch the Moore films let alone the top ten bond films.



Wasn't that Maud Adams?

This films not bad. Moores best IMO is Live and Let Die.

Fuuny thing about Moore is the noises he makes when fighting. "Oomp" Listen out next time you see him in any Bond film, you'll know what I mean.

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RE: Octopussy - 12/6/2008 1:39:00 PM   
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I have adored this movie for ages since I found it so fun on my first viewing.

I just re-watched it, and though it has dated somewhat (after 25 years I guess its only to be expected), it still rates higher than a number of the other Bonds.

The opening pre-credit sequence is still a joy to watch, and the locales and production design are first-rate.

Most of the humour is well done, though some bits (the Tarzan yell in particular) would undoubtedly leave many rolling their eyes. It was good to see Moore in fine form, and he had a solid and relaxed supporting cast to work with.

All in all, an efficient, workmanlike Bond entry with a good "family-friendly" tone, which would go down well on a rainy weekend.


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RE: Octopussy - 12/6/2008 6:35:26 PM   
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Not a great Bond movie but a very enjoyable one,this mostly continues the serious tone of the previous series entry For Your Eyes Only but throws in some Moonraker silliness  [Spielberg and Lucas should have took note of this film and realised Tarzan vine swinging scenes don't work unless it's Tarzan],resulting in some jarring shifts in tone.  Fairly laidback for the first two thirds and then making up for it with a thrilling final third full of action and tension  [including the best ticking bomb scene of the series],it throws in all the tried and tested elements,while  Roger Moore has his lightweight  but-serious-when-needed Bond down to a tee

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RE: Octopussy - 12/6/2008 7:06:35 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mackey

Competes with Moonraker and Die Another Day for the title of worst Bond of all time I reckon.

Totally agree,just so little to even say about it even the theme song is dire.

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RE: Octopussy - 13/6/2008 8:53:25 AM   
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Like Sean Connery, Roger Moore should have quit as Bond after his fifth film. 'For Your Eyes Only' was his finest performance as Bond, and its melancholic atmosphere would have been an ideal way to bow out. Instead he carried on and carried on the inconsistent trend that his Bond films had. One would be great, the next sucked, the next great, the next not so great etc. 'For Your Eyes Only' was great so guess what? 'Octopussy' was yet another backwards step.
 
After an uninvolving pre-credit sequence, which has the benefit of ending with a fairly nifty stunt we have Rita Coolidge's jazzy ballad over the credits. It's pleasant on the ear, but another in the long line of dull ballads for Roger Moore films.

009 has been found dead in Germany, dressed as a clown and clutching a fake Faberge egg. British Secret Service suspect that the Russians are producing the fakes to fund their operations and assign Bond to find out who's behind the eggs. This takes him to India and into conflict with a mad Russian General, Orlov (Stephen Berkoff), an exiled Afghan prince, Kamal Khan (Louis Jordan) and the mysterious and beautiful Octopussy (Maud Adams).

'For Your Eyes Only' had been the best Roger Moore Bond because it had removed all the annoyances that had so blighted his other films. Gone was the self-mockery, smugness and terrible quips to be replaced by a seriousness of tone and plot. 'Octopussy' would seem to be heading down the same route as the plot is far from silly and positively Connery-esque in its intrigue and twists (the real plot isn't even unveiled until the last 30 minutes).

It's a shame then that director John Glen, lets all the old traits slip back in with a vengeance. 'Octopussy' is at times a very silly film, which is totally at odds with the tone of the plot. When Bond has to slip underwater into a floating palace, does he use a wet-suit like you would assume a secret agent would? No, he dresses up as a crocodile. When he's faced with a snarling tiger he shouts "Sit!" at it. And it does. When he makes an escape through the jungle trees, he swings on a vine accompanied by a Tarzan cry. It's quite fitting that Bond is dressed as a clown towards the climax of the film.

This silliness would be understandable if the plot was as outlandish as 'Moonraker', for example. But it's not, it should be handled with serious and intrigue. However, this is Glen's second mistake, because as well as being silly 'Octopussy' is probably the most boring Bond film yet. For a director who had done such terrific work on the action sequences on 'For Your Eyes Only' there's barely anything to stop you snoozing throughout most of 'Octopussy'. One chase through an Indian market is spoiled by, you guessed it, silly jokes. Assailants are beaten off with a tennis racquet and Moore tosses out several dreadful puns throughout. It's the kind of film where about an hour into it you realise "Jesus, has anything actually happened?!". Yes, there's a great climax on top of a plane but to get to that you have to suffer an interminable romance between Bond and Octopussy.

After his previous sterling work in the last film, Moore undoes all that good work with a juvenile performance. At his age (and he's showing it here) Bond should be a cynical, slightly weary killer (like 'For Your Eyes Only'). Instead Moore again portrays him like a vain playboy. He's surrounded by lacklustre performances too. Maud Adams, who had been so good in 'The Man With The Golden Gun', is bland and does nothing to justify having the film named after her. Instead, the sexier and more interesting Kristina Wayborn is relegated to background eye candy.

'Octopussy' is seriously lacking on the villian front too. Berkoff gives an over the top performance, reminiscent of Peter Sellers as Dr. Strangelove (this isn't a compliment in this instance) and Jordan phones in his performance. Even the tough henchman Gobinda, (Kabir Bedi) is just a dull version of Jaws or Oddjob.

Perhaps the best thing about 'Octopussy' is that it's a very good Q film, Llewelyn's performance being one of his exasperated best. Robert Brown is a dull and anonymous M, however.

As well as having a casually racist tone (Bond gives some rupees to an Indian friend with the cheerful comment "That'll keep you in curries for a few weeks!"), 'Octopussy' has little to offer other than being a standard and totally forgettable Bond. With too little action, the majority of which is dull anyway, it falls back into routine and bad habits throughout. It also has the misfortune to be silly AND boring, which is something no Bond should ever be.




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