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RE: Doctor Who - 1/1/2013 8:44:04 PM   
theoriginalcynic

 

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Re-watched the Snowmen yesterday and I still loved it. Plus the preview makes the rest of the series look great. I wonder when it's on.

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RE: Doctor Who - 2/1/2013 4:28:10 PM   
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Gave it another go...

It's better than I thought, but nothing surprising. Which is a shame, and no matter how good I think Matt Smith is in the role, I think the stories are simply too samey. Additionally I feel the show suffers from writing that both requires you to pay attention to every word to keep up with the exposition heavy plot and foreshadowing of the main arc and also rams home as if you aren't paying attention the most obvious things. For me this makes it an increasingly erratic viewing experience. And I seriously, seriously cringe every time I hear someone in the show ask Doctor? Doctor who?

I lost the faith a little when the previous series ended with a simple switcheroo, after being set up to be something really stupendous then relying on an episode with a load of new shit and running around rather than a fully coherent payoff. The ending felt like a cheat in a very big way. The constant promotion of the idea the Ponds were leaving totally robbed the first half of the current series of any real dramatic tension or point and the manner of the departure was over busy, over manipulative rushed bollocks.

The Christmas special had liberal elements of those too. And if the second half of the current series is in a similar vein, with rushing around episodes hinting at a big finish that doesn't really come with the last episode being something of a fudge, I may be done with the series for a bit. Three series in a row with some great highs but a payoff that makes me feel like it was all a waste of time because the big story, hinted at very clumsily all along (sometimes to the detriment of the individual episodes because its so in your face when it happens) is only given one episode to be resolved in and isn't really up to much as an ending anyway would be too much of that sort of thing.

All my opinions of course, but I've done my share of thinking well, it's Doctor Who, so you can put up with certain things. For me, the high point of the Moffat era has been the melting of Ganger Amy, which I did call in advance, but it was still a sucker punch for the show. I did think that was where the series break should have happened, but it wouldn't have been so bad if the resolution hadn't been the over busy, over manipulative rushed bollocks of A Good Man Goes to War that, as the show often does, squandered it's strengths with a sudden multiplication of people in the foreground of the story, turning it from Doctor Who to Scooby Who.

I'll repeat that a second viewing of the Christmas Special improved it for me, since I've been very critical. But I like surprises, and I don't get that from the show at the moment. So, I'm out of this thread, unless the show calls me back to say I'm surprised again.



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RE: Doctor Who - 3/1/2013 10:26:13 AM   
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aussies start anniversary celebrations early-

http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2013/01/50th-anniversary-australian-doctor-who.html

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RE: Doctor Who - 4/1/2013 10:26:00 AM   
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anyone checked out last month's xmas DWM?

usual top notch features including 'battle of wits'-best year for 'who', 1983 or 2005?

and a brilliant last comic strip for rory and amy that is nice link to 'angels/manhattan'.

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RE: Doctor Who - 7/1/2013 1:08:49 PM   
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paul mggann is the dr on radio 4 extra 6pm and midnight weekdays.
these eps lead to the dark 8th dr arc posted on this thread.

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RE: Doctor Who - 9/1/2013 1:35:09 PM   
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excellent 8th dr adventure from 4 extra-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01pqn8q/Doctor_Who_Situation_Vacant/

you're hired!

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RE: Doctor Who - 10/1/2013 10:31:45 AM   
spark1

 

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big finish intends to do its own multi dr 50 year story-

http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2013/01/bigfinish-090113165008.html


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RE: Doctor Who - 11/1/2013 10:29:57 AM   
spark1

 

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details of this month's DWM-

http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2013/01/dwm456-100113155008.html

and a tribute to a 'who' legend-

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/the-northerner/2013/jan/10/blogpost-delia-derbyshire-electronic-music-dr-who

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RE: Doctor Who - 16/1/2013 1:15:01 PM   
spark1

 

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check the new tardis interior up close in this month's DWM on page 14 onwards.

the 8th dr has xmas with family and friend-

http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01pvwsk/Doctor_Who_Relative_Dimensions/


and if i hear one more ex 'who' star/cast member deny that the bbc has been in touch about 'who' 50.......


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RE: Doctor Who - 17/1/2013 10:31:32 AM   
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'who' bfi panel details-

http://www.scifinow.co.uk/blog/34202/doctor-who-50th-anniversary-celebration-at-the-bfi-begins/


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RE: Doctor Who - 19/1/2013 12:57:10 PM   
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quote:

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'who' bfi panel details-

http://www.scifinow.co.uk/blog/34202/doctor-who-50th-anniversary-celebration-at-the-bfi-begins/




Some better coverage of the event from Radio Times' Patrick Mulkern here:

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-01-14/the-bfis-doctor-who-at-50

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RE: Doctor Who - 21/1/2013 12:24:31 PM   
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'midwife' star on appearing in 1st ep of s7.2-

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-01-20/call-the-midwife-jessica-raine-talks-babies-births-and-being-in-doctor-who

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RE: Doctor Who - 22/1/2013 2:22:30 PM   
Darth Marenghi

 

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Seems I got the wrong impression, those of you that can read the deleted post.

Here's a (fuller) pic from someone at the London Toy Fair seeing some of the BBC's plans for this year:





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RE: Doctor Who - 22/1/2013 2:24:47 PM   
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Bit surprised that the anniversary special is only one hour long show, thought they might have at least stretched to a double bill like the end of RTD/Tennant's tenure.

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RE: Doctor Who - 22/1/2013 2:36:04 PM   
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Yeah, I would have thought that, too.

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RE: Doctor Who - 22/1/2013 2:36:11 PM   
Darth Marenghi

 

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Bit surprised that the anniversary special is only one hour long show, thought they might have at least stretched to a double bill like the end of RTD/Tennant's tenure.


Yeah - that's what I thought originally, as the first photo I saw had cut off the "programming will include" bit. But I'm thinking/hoping there's things the Beeb doesn't want out there just yet.

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RE: Doctor Who - 23/1/2013 11:39:20 AM   
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It's back on my Birthday

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho/articles/Date-Confirmed-for-the-Doctors-Return

March 30th, Easter weekend so not entirely unexpected

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RE: Doctor Who - 23/1/2013 11:48:23 AM   
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So much for the 'Doctor Who belongs on dark autumn evenings' then.

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RE: Doctor Who - 23/1/2013 12:12:43 PM   
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I'm getting quite tired of all this fannying about with half series and different air dates. The fact that Season 7 part 2 is on at pretty much exactly the same time as the full series used to be suggests that the 'dark evenings' thing was a lot of nonsense to cover up the fact that they were essentially moving things around to create one less series.

We now have an 8 episode series in Spring, with 5 episodes chopped off and a lot of fluff last year to suggest that having a year off wasn't what they were doing. What happens going forwards now? The 50th special is in Autumn apparently, then presumably we'll have a Christmas special, so when does Series 8 happen? Spring as normal? Will we have to wait till Autumn again for a first half.

I don't mind if the producers just come out and say we can't keep up with 14 episodes a year, I just wish there was a bit more honesty and clarity.

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RE: Doctor Who - 23/1/2013 12:28:32 PM   
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Mmmm - that does rather kick that particular excuse into touch, doesn't it?

Or, rather, out it as an excuse.


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RE: Doctor Who - 23/1/2013 4:50:08 PM   
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On to more pleasant topics - the BFI has put up some videos of the panel from the recent An Unearthly Child screening. See some DW legends (and Mark Gatiss) pontificate on this story!

Part I:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKfB9wz7nbA&feature=youtu.be

Part II:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iSA7PRs_fU&feature=youtu.be

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RE: Doctor Who - 23/1/2013 5:13:13 PM   
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On to more pleasant topics - the BFI has put up some videos of the panel from the recent An Unearthly Child screening. See some DW legends (and Mark Gatiss) pontificate on this story!

Part I:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKfB9wz7nbA&feature=youtu.be

Part II:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iSA7PRs_fU&feature=youtu.be


Poor Mark.

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RE: Doctor Who - 23/1/2013 5:41:41 PM   
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He might begin to qualify if he manages to write a good episode, which he hasn't yet IMO. Some moments, but he's not nailed it. 

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RE: Doctor Who - 25/1/2013 7:09:49 PM   
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He might begin to qualify if he manages to write a good episode, which he hasn't yet IMO. Some moments, but he's not nailed it. 



I have a T-Shirt with Mark on it which says "My name is Mark Gatiss and I will kill again". So I'm a fan, but elab's right, he hasn't written a good one yet. And he's written two distinct ones for the new series...but there's the anniversary drama thingy which he's probably better at it fairness.

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RE: Doctor Who - 29/1/2013 10:12:07 AM   
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For some reason the Christmas specials seem to always foreground the things about the show I find the lamest.

Utter crap is too strong a way to describe what I have seen thus far of the special but special it is not.



Same here. Here's my cynical rant; The invisible stairway to the clouds was far too magicy. The Sontaran was far too restricted to comic relief. I don't think he had a single line that wasn't a gag. It wasn't made clear enough what exactly the snow stuff was. It was in there somewhere, but it was too incidental. It just felt like an excuse to have snowmen in the show. Doctor gets snogged by the new girl in her first(ish) episode. What was the point of her having to explain the problem in one word (apart from having her say 'pond')? I'm not keen on the new girl in general either. I know we haven't seen her do much yet, but so far she seems like a generic sassy, cheeky girl type.

I was pleasantly surprised by the new TARDIS interior. It seems pretty small, but I thought the last one was rather over done.

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RE: Doctor Who - 29/1/2013 2:44:09 PM   
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Just seen online that legendary Doctor Who actor Bernard Horsfall (Chancellor Goth in The Deadly Assassin, amongst others) has passed away. RIP.

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RE: Doctor Who - 30/1/2013 10:35:43 AM   
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casting for the gatiss doc-

http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2013/01/casting-announced-for-adventure-in.html

no brainer really.

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RE: Doctor Who - 30/1/2013 11:20:41 AM   
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That's some great casting.

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RE: Doctor Who - 30/1/2013 2:47:23 PM   
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Turns out Sacha Dhawan got to meet the legendary Waris Hussain at the recent BFI event.



http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-01-30/doctor-who-waris-hussein-meets-sacha-dhawan-for-mark-gatisss-an-adventure-in-space-and-time

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RE: Doctor Who - 31/1/2013 2:33:00 PM   
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moff talks-

http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2013-01-31/steven-moffat-on-sherlock-series-3-and-doctor-whos-50th-anniversary---video


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