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Louis Leterrier Directing New Hulk - 20/7/2006 9:13:36 AM   
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sounds promising - 20/7/2006 9:13:36 AM   
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I want saturday night pop corn Hulk, rather than the visual valium of Ang Lee's art-wank borathon

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here we go.... i loved the first Hulk movie - 20/7/2006 9:16:19 AM   
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i dont mind having a film where there is a huge chunk given for characrter development, and i thought that the first one did it well, and the action scenes were good too!

but they have to bring back Eric Bana for this one!!!

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Not sure... - 20/7/2006 9:17:30 AM   
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Ok, Ang Lee's take on Hulk was flawed, but it was interesting and had real emotion involved. I'm a bit worried they've swung too far in the opposite direction and over compensated by hiring an all action director who will simply replace genuine emotional content with hyperactive action scenes that look great but make you feel nothing. Still, hopefully I'll be proved wrong.

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And yes... - 20/7/2006 9:18:13 AM   
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...bring back Bana!

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Eric Bana is Bruce Banner. - 20/7/2006 9:39:22 AM   
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Only problem with the Hulk movie was it crow-barred in a super-villain without really setting up what was to come. Spider-man was so good it raised expectations for another Marvel movie of that tone... which Hulk wasn't. Surely having established Bana as Banner in the first movie it would make sense to sort of whatever negotiations now need to made given his current star power.

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THE HULK VS. ???? - 20/7/2006 9:46:40 AM   
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im not in touch with the actually enemies of the Hulk, but who would he takin on ???

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- 20/7/2006 10:04:44 AM   
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What the hell is going on?
Was Paul WS Anderson not available?
For Ang Lee's movie's flaws it at least tried to reach high, this new film sounds like it is going to be aimed squarely at idiots.
You have to ask yourself are Marvel determined to destroy all their movie franchises after the debacle of X-Men the last stand and now this only Spider-Man has any credibility.
If, as suggested, they recast somebody else in the lead role I don't think I will even bother going to see this.

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Hulk smash - 20/7/2006 10:09:52 AM   
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I liked the first Hulk, but it wasn't really what Hulk was all about.
Hulk is about smashing things. So forget teh character depth. A decent enough storyline that lets the greenie meanie smash lots of things is what I'd love to see. Although the desert section in Lee's film rocked.

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Bana - 20/7/2006 10:12:10 AM   
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Apparetly Bana will be reprising his role as Bruce Banner, as it in his contract from the first film to do sequels.

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ZAK PENN FUCK SAKE - 20/7/2006 10:12:58 AM   
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What the hell is wrong with marvel, have they only got one writer, ZAK PENN christ. He writes bad films with flat action scenes, AVi Arad get a clue. As far as the director, might be good at the action but as far as his characters having depth and personality not at all. I quite liked the hulk film, yet i would like to see something closer to original story. More action but still good story and characters.

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Ha!! - 20/7/2006 10:26:03 AM   
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Can anyone say "awful!". Why make a Hulk movie, we have seen one...it was pretty decent, we don't need another one.

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RE: Bana - 20/7/2006 10:27:50 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Cloud/Strife

Apparetly Bana will be reprising his role as Bruce Banner, as it in his contract from the first film to do sequels.


Nope he won't be, Ari Avd has already said he won't be involved...they want to make a fresh new start

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Puny Human. - 20/7/2006 10:30:06 AM   
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I thought Ang Lee did an excellent job with the Hulk. The tone and style set was befitting to a comic that originated in the 1960s. Alongside Unbreakable, I believe it to be one of the most criminally under-rated superhero flicks of recent years. A lot of people complained of it being slow. I thought that while it was a slow build up, it was definitely necessary. Lee had to fit 30-40 years of backstory into the first hour i.e. what causes/d the anger that is the source of Hulk's power/curse. And what took the comics until the 1990s to do, Lee did it in an hour. As a fan of the comic, I was quite pleased with that approach. It's not as simple as being bit by a spider then having powers or being born with them, Banner's curse is far more in depth and tragic than that and needed to be looked at and understood before we got to see "Hulk Smash!"

The Hulk's main problems from a non or fleeting fan's perspective, besides the fact of being marketed completely wrong, is the lack of "big name villains" and it's complete dissimilarity to the 1970s t.v. series. But I felt the first film set the scene nicely for a sequel and would be judged more favourably when said sequel was made. With the backstory done and dusted, it leaves more chance of a clobbering punch up with villains such as the Abomination or even as within the comics a dust up with another Marvel hero. (Thing anyone?) Marvel, having acquired the rights back to the Hulk are now free to do the not so jolly green giant justice on the big screen with little or no studio interference and with their vast catalogue of characters, why not also use Hulk 2 as an opportunity to introduce other characters such as Thor etc ? The cast should stay the same without a doubt, but I feel it is important to introduce Rick Jones into the fold also, due to his importance to the whole Hulk mythos.

Either way, I think the sequel/reboot/whatever would accompany the Ang Lee film very well but at the same time address the issues some people had with Lee's interpretation.

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RE: Bana - 20/7/2006 10:31:14 AM   
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Damn It!

Who will they be using Jason Statham!

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RE: Bana - 20/7/2006 10:33:04 AM   
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When they makes this film i hoe it will be better than the first one

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- 20/7/2006 10:33:21 AM   
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The general public is to blame. When served with a thought provoking, interesting take film like Ang Lee's they stay away.
But drivel like X-Men The Last Stand is a runaway success. Is it any wonder Marvel are dumbing everything down, it would appear to be what people want. Sadly.

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- 20/7/2006 10:39:47 AM   
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the first hulk was shit, it was wrongly cast and an incredible bore, lets just hope they do a better job this time. And lets hope the hulk doesnt look like a giant toad.

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RE: - 20/7/2006 11:12:41 AM   
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I really enjoyed the first Hulk movie. I thought Bana was excellent and the way the Hulk looked etc was spot on. And when the action dioes kick off it's superb (except for the fact there shouldve been more 'Hulk in the city shit' cos he spent a lot of time in the desert). But once is had finished i did want a sequel, and still do.

But so far this second Hulk movie is shaping up to be a bit shit. Now im not one for dissing a movie before we've seen anything but when you've got the same writer as X3 we know there's gonna be lotsa puns, which won't suit the Hulk movie. Also with this it means there will probably be some sort 'emoitional content' with like a meaning at the end. And due to the director its got and the writer this is gonna be about something obvious like 'teamwork' was for X3. This again will not suit the movie, especially following the Ang Lee film who's 'emotional content' was like a sins-of-the-father kinda thing.

I've got a bad feeling about this *shakes head in dismay*

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Who? - 20/7/2006 11:37:39 AM   
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A script by a writer who's recently been panned for his awful work and a director from a third rate movie. This'll really make The Hulk franchise come alive.

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RE: RE: - 20/7/2006 11:39:24 AM   
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was the action in Transporter 2 any good? ive got Transporter , but i just like it for Stathams fighting. Zak Penn, writing a script for x3

is no mean feat. without Bana i cant see it being a success. im gutted because i really like thi first one!

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woot woot! - 20/7/2006 12:28:40 PM   
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Absolutely spot hooded man!!!!!!!!

instead of a movie with depth (superman returns) people want a saturday night pop corn film (Pirates)!!!

i mean... come on... which is gonna live longer in the memory??? Superman anyday!! sooo they should keep with the same method of film making!

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RE: RE: - 20/7/2006 12:34:10 PM   
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I believe that they could have done a great sequel one this promising franchise but as it seems they are going to destroy it along with a lot of other great franchises. It's a shame.

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Ok, Ang Lee's take on Hulk was flawed, but it was interesting and had real emotion involved. I'm a bit worried they've swung too far in the opposite direction and over compensated by hiring an all action director who will simply replace genuine emotional content with hyperactive action scenes that look great but make you feel nothing. Still, hopefully I'll be proved wrong.


Flawed? Flawed? Where are you from mate? Mars? Venus  maybe? Ang Lee did a fantastic work on the  Hulk! Maybe the film is not a excellent one but he for sure did his best!

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Was Paul WS Anderson not available?

Maybe you should have your brains checked unless you said it as a joke.

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Alongside Unbreakable, I believe it to be one of the most criminally under-rated superhero flicks of recent years.

Totally agree about Unbreakable. Hulk wasn't a masterpiece but it was a very good movie and a very entertaining one too.

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A script by a writer who's recently been panned for his awful work and a director from a third rate movie. This'll really make The Hulk franchise come alive.


Don't forget that X3 broke a record at the box office...




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- 20/7/2006 12:39:30 PM   
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why do people say that "Lee's take on Hulk was flawed"???

can people elaborate??

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Read. This. Closely. - 20/7/2006 12:58:48 PM   
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It's a film based on a comic book. Fictional characters. Fictional. Characters. Am I gettin' through to you at all?*

The reason films like the original Hulk flop is because they try to inject 'real human drama' into proceedings and forget the popcorn. 'Real human drama'? FFS - This is a guy who turns green n nasty and runs at 100MPH and throws tanks and smashes shit up!!!

Now, hands up who want to see that compared to 90 minutes of character study? 

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RE: Read. This. Closely. - 20/7/2006 1:58:53 PM   
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Well the ongoing debate seems to be Depth & Emotion Vs Action & Popcorn. The truth is, there needs to be balance otherwise you end up with a melodramic yawnfest where characters' abilities end up largely redundant (Fantastic 4) or a meaningless array of set-pieces (X3)!

I really enjoyed the original Hulk - the story, character developmenet and SFX were all more than satisafactory. I also loved the comic book framing - it did lose its way towards the end though. The final confrontation was more than a bit silly.

Hooded Man points out the need for Depth and films like Spiderman, X1, X2 and Superman Returns & Batman Begins support this. However, Box Office success is essential if we want to see additional films (has Superman Returns even recouped its $200 cost?!) and for a character like The Hulk (who let's face it, isn't in the same league as Superman, Spiderman or X-Men) the action and marketing need to be well up there!

Let's hope Leterrier can pull it off though I am sceptical - Transporter 2 was an entertaining action-fest, but not much else. It proves he can do the action, but they really need to nail the story for this one!

On another note, I was impressed by the original cast, particularly Bana and Connolly. What a pity it would be if Bana at least could not reprise his original role.

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RE: Read. This. Closely. - 20/7/2006 2:01:05 PM   
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The reason films like the original Hulk flop is because they try to inject 'real human drama' into proceedings and forget the popcorn. 'Real human drama'? FFS - This is a guy who turns green n nasty and runs at 100MPH and throws tanks and smashes shit up!!!

Now, hands up who want to see that compared to 90 minutes of character study?

There's about ten minutes worth of entertainment in seeing a being green monster smash things up. If I could only have either strong character-based drama or popcorn action flicks until the end of time, it wouldn't even be a contest. I'd take the drama every day of the week.


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just walk away from this eventual crash site - 20/7/2006 2:45:34 PM   
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a movie by a man who makes bad bad bad bad bad bad movies and a script writer who shouldn't be allowed to write obituaries, as he'd screw that up, and they expect to bring the Hulk back to life. Can anybody say 'disaster'?

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Why bother? - 20/7/2006 2:47:32 PM   
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No one wants a sequel OR reboot.

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RE: Why bother? - 20/7/2006 3:08:02 PM   
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There was a smidgeon of sarcasm when I asked was Paul WS Anderson not available.
To be honest why would Bana want to be associated with this film now, the script is bound to be dire and the director of the Transporter 2 is not exactly of the ilk that Bana is associated with.
I hate the phrase "popcorn movie" it suggests that is perfectly fine to have a film that eschews depth and character in favour of one explosion after another.
It's almost a get out of jail free card for shit films.
Now we are going to get an 85 minute long piece of crap from a director who should be making Friday the 13th Part 72 or Highlander 12 or some other straight to video dross instead of a what should be a flagship franchise.
I would imagine his low fee and ability to be pushed around by the studio was the driving factor.

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