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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 17/5/2012 1:00:19 PM   
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My only concern in that SPOILER is Michael Shannon's CGI enhanced physique. I don't think Zod needs to be super pumped up to be menacing, just look at Terrance Stamp.


While thatís definitely true, I did always find this take on Zod pretty damn cool!

http://nerdbastards.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/general-zod.jpg


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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 17/5/2012 1:38:21 PM   
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I thought that Shannon was just wearing a muscle suit (without CGI enhancement)? That article doesn't suggest any CGi jiggery pokery.

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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 17/5/2012 4:30:20 PM   
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While I hope that Snyder reins in his urges for 120 minutes of slo-mo, I'd very much like to see him put a twist on it by having a fight scene between Superman and Zod or Faora take place in real time (say, 5 or 10 minutes) for the Kryptonians / cinema audience but bystanders and the world around the fight in slow motion.

There was a similar concept in one issue of JMS's "Grounded" storyline in the comics last year, when The Flash and Superman had an issue-long conversation in a diner, in the space of a couple of seconds' "real-time" while a waitress slowly fell over.

I only used to pick up DC comics every couple of years or so but I'm glad that issue was the one I read that time.

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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 17/5/2012 4:42:21 PM   
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I think its time now that Snyder goes the other way and considers Benny Hill stlye fast-forward-play.

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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 17/5/2012 4:44:32 PM   
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I think its time now that Snyder goes the other way and considers Benny Hill stlye fast-forward-play.



They are looking to replace the John Williams theme too...

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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 17/5/2012 4:47:52 PM   
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I think its time now that Snyder goes the other way and considers Benny Hill stlye fast-forward-play.



They are looking to replace the John Williams theme too...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MK6TXMsvgQg

I think we're onto a winner

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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 17/5/2012 4:51:05 PM   
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I think its time now that Snyder goes the other way and considers Benny Hill stlye fast-forward-play.



They are looking to replace the John Williams theme too...


Really. I hope not - its bit like replacing the James Bond theme. Times change, actors change... the theme doesn't have to.

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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 17/5/2012 5:17:23 PM   
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I think its time now that Snyder goes the other way and considers Benny Hill stlye fast-forward-play.



They are looking to replace the John Williams theme too...


Really. I hope not - its bit like replacing the James Bond theme. Times change, actors change... the theme doesn't have to.


They are definitely using a new score for this and for the better I think. Lets leave the past be and give us something we haven't heard before.

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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 17/5/2012 10:13:27 PM   
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I know this movie isn't due out for another 12 months, but I really think they need to kick on with the publicity campaign soon. A teaser trailer would really give people a solid basis of what to expect. We all know the cast list, let's see them in action.

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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 18/5/2012 11:44:18 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Spaldron


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ORIGINAL: Russ Whitfield


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ORIGINAL: FoximusPrime


quote:

ORIGINAL: OPEN YOUR EYES

I think its time now that Snyder goes the other way and considers Benny Hill stlye fast-forward-play.



They are looking to replace the John Williams theme too...


Really. I hope not - its bit like replacing the James Bond theme. Times change, actors change... the theme doesn't have to.


They are definitely using a new score for this and for the better I think. Lets leave the past be and give us something we haven't heard before.


I'm open to them changing the score as long as it's an improvement and not just change for the sake of it.




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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 18/5/2012 12:08:48 PM   
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I worry that it'll be a mix of modern guitar thrash and classic, a la 300.

I thought that John Ottman did a wonderful job with the source material. But if its confirmed, its confirmed... a real shame for me, though. As I say... somethings shouldn't be messed with. Then again... it might turn out to be the greatest score ever. Watchmen was pretty good, come to think of it.

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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 18/5/2012 12:51:02 PM   
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I worry that it'll be a mix of modern guitar thrash and classic, a la 300.

I thought that John Ottman did a wonderful job with the source material. But if its confirmed, its confirmed... a real shame for me, though. As I say... somethings shouldn't be messed with. Then again... it might turn out to be the greatest score ever. Watchmen was pretty good, come to think of it.


Who is doing the score by the way?

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Keep-the-Original-Superman-Score-for-the-upcoming-Man-of-Steel-film/226188350754406

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MAN OF STEEL - 18/5/2012 1:40:14 PM   
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I really don't understand why people would like to keep the original Superman theme - It's a brand new start for the Man of Steel, why would you want the old theme? Makes no sense!

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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 19/5/2012 8:47:55 AM   
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@hooded man - Its not listed on IMDB pro or the Wiki-God, but my money would be on Tyler Bates. I'm no Sherlock, but his past works include "Dawn of the Dead," "300", "Watchmen" and "Sucker Punch."

@Alistair - because its iconic.

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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 19/5/2012 9:34:53 AM   
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It may well be iconic but sometimes you just need to move on, and I doubt the score would fit in with the style of Snyder's film to begin with. I'm a huge fan of film soundtracks but I'm not sad that this theme won't be used in a new Superman film. Infact I'm glad we won't hear it. I want something new with this film.

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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 19/5/2012 11:47:25 AM   
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Okaaayyyyyy.

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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 19/5/2012 12:29:37 PM   
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they could do a mash up of old and new, like the end titles for the recent 'star trek'.

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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 19/5/2012 5:23:16 PM   
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Even though this isn't even a factor because they are using new music, if they did use the John Williams theme then it would instantly tie 'Man of Steel' in with all the other Superman films, and that's not what they are doing here. It's a brand new start, a new beginning.

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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 19/5/2012 7:15:14 PM   
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They are using a new theme, and it's old news. It would be like using the Danny Elfman "Batman" theme in every version of that character when clearly Superman and Batman have had many more appearances on and off screen.

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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 19/5/2012 8:51:46 PM   
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It may well be iconic but sometimes you just need to move on, and I doubt the score would fit in with the style of Snyder's film to begin with. I'm a huge fan of film soundtracks but I'm not sad that this theme won't be used in a new Superman film. Infact I'm glad we won't hear it. I want something new with this film.


This.

Man Of Steel is a reboot.A clean break from the Donner/Reeve era of Superman films which means that it should not use any of Williams themes.Besides, every incarnation of Superman on screen has had different musical scores from Jay Gruskas Lois And Clark theme, to Shirley Walkers theme to the 90s animated series.It was somewhat appropriate to use the Williams themes for Returns as that was a semi sequel/rehash/rewhatever to the Reeve films.Man Of Steel needs its own musical voice.

As for a trailer,im not a fan of a films trailer debuting over a year in advance of the movies actual release.Let them work on it until the films pretty much complete and release a trailer a month or two before the release date.

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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 19/5/2012 9:58:50 PM   
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The Superman theme is iconic - it is up there with James Bond. People don't connect it with Reeves - they connect it with Superman. Kids who have never seen the Donner films know the tune. The idea that somehow the problem would be the theme tune is nonsense. The theme had nothing to do with why the last one sucked.

But hey, I can't wait to hear what a modern composers idea of an iconic Superman theme sounds like....

Question - would you all be happy with the Daniel Craig Bonds, since they were a reboot, not using the theme?

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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 19/5/2012 10:11:11 PM   
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Not that's not the same deal. If some non Danjaq group could get away with it again, like say Never Say Never then yes, that is acceptable.

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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 19/5/2012 10:18:05 PM   
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Not that's not the same deal. If some non Danjaq group could get away with it again, like say Never Say Never then yes, that is acceptable.


We can only hope the Man of Steel theme is as memorable as the Never Say Never Again theme.

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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 19/5/2012 11:23:36 PM   
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The Superman theme is iconic - it is up there with James Bond. People don't connect it with Reeves - they connect it with Superman. Kids who have never seen the Donner films know the tune. The idea that somehow the problem would be the theme tune is nonsense. The theme had nothing to do with why the last one sucked.

But hey, I can't wait to hear what a modern composers idea of an iconic Superman theme sounds like....

Question - would you all be happy with the Daniel Craig Bonds, since they were a reboot, not using the theme?


But then would you expect to hear Danny Elfman's Batman theme in Nolan's Batman trilogy? Just wouldn't fit. Some things just shouldn't be carried over. And while I agree with your comments on John Williams's theme, I think, after 40 years of the same piece of music, it's about time there was a new approach. The music is made to fit the film. This is Zack Snider and Chris Nolan's interpretation of Superman (based on a comic book that had no music), so they shouldn't be held to what has come before.

As for Bond - Even though they went back to the start with the new Craig Bond films, they are still 'official' Bond films and are therefore tied to an existing universe. To not use the Bond theme would be ludicrous.

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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 19/5/2012 11:31:47 PM   
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I think I'd find the use of the theme distracting and merely a box-ticking exercise. If we're going to reboot, do the lot.

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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 19/5/2012 11:46:02 PM   
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The Superman theme is iconic - it is up there with James Bond. People don't connect it with Reeves - they connect it with Superman. Kids who have never seen the Donner films know the tune. The idea that somehow the problem would be the theme tune is nonsense. The theme had nothing to do with why the last one sucked.

But hey, I can't wait to hear what a modern composers idea of an iconic Superman theme sounds like....

Question - would you all be happy with the Daniel Craig Bonds, since they were a reboot, not using the theme?


But then would you expect to hear Danny Elfman's Batman theme in Nolan's Batman trilogy? Just wouldn't fit. Some things just shouldn't be carried over. And while I agree with your comments on John Williams's theme, I think, after 40 years of the same piece of music, it's about time there was a new approach. The music is made to fit the film. This is Zack Snider and Chris Nolan's interpretation of Superman (based on a comic book that had no music), so they shouldn't be held to what has come before.

As for Bond - Even though they went back to the start with the new Craig Bond films, they are still 'official' Bond films and are therefore tied to an existing universe. To not use the Bond theme would be ludicrous.


But Batman has never had a definitive theme - the school kids don't run around humming any of those tunes. And that is the difference - Superman transcends those movies to the point where it isn't held by one actor - it is about bravery and being forward looking.

I will bet all the money in my pockets that the Synder film won't have anything coming close to it. Composers nowerdays seem unable to come up with iconic tunes. The only one I remember recently is Magentos theme in X Men: First Class.

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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 19/5/2012 11:48:00 PM   
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And while this is a reboot, it is also drawing heavily on the previous films...

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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 20/5/2012 12:29:57 AM   
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You've never heard kids singing "Nananananana Batman!"?

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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 20/5/2012 12:54:43 AM   
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You've never heard kids singing "Nananananana Batman!"?


I would be MOST happy if Dark Knight Rises had that as the theme tune.

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RE: MAN OF STEEL - 20/5/2012 10:31:25 AM   
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I found the best bit of Superman Returns was when the opening theme kicked in. I was instantly transported to my childhood and got a real kick out of it. Sadly it all went downhill from there, but at least that theme elicits a thrill.

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