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Brotherhood - 23/10/2005 12:51:13 PM

creasey

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Have just watched the South Korean war film Brotherhood. A film about 2 brothers forced to fight against the Commies.
In a word WOW.
I can remember the oh-my-god feeling as a "sticky bomb" blew a poor GI apart in Saving Private Ryan. No fire, or smoke, just a man ripped apart.
Brotherhood is filled with countless visions of unlucky troops sharing similar fates.
Add to this Jin-tae, one of the brothers, surging through the film like Rambo on steroids!
Don't get me wrong, the gritty war violence is great, but the thing that sets it apart from the crowd is the brother's relationship.
Dong-Kun Jang, and Bin Won give wonderful performances, and effortlessly keep the viewer engaged throughout the 2.5 hours runtime.
This reportedly took Je-gyu Kang 3.5 years to make, IMO time well spent.

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RE: Brotherhood - 2/2/2006 11:16:55 PM

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Thought i'd bring this thread up as I just finished watching Brotherhood. I bought it blind the other day and I can say this is the best blind purchase i've made.
It could have just been me being emotional but I did shed a few tears throughout that. ( a few being a large understatement

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Loved it. I was really impressed.
It kept me engaged all 2.5 hours, fantastic!

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RE: Brotherhood - 4/2/2006 11:05:08 AM

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I found this to be everything SPR wasn't - if it was an inspiration, it could only have been to improve on a film that was overlong and often boring as hell (the first few minutes were fine - but Spielberg should learn that short sections do not a film make - on the evidence of the last 50 mins of WofW it is something that still confuses him).

But this doesn't lose interest, and is certainly never boring, and while I accept the comment on melodrama, at least it meant it was emotionally interesting without using clich�d button-pushing techniques.

Superb actions scenes as well and the director handled the bigger crowd scenes superbly.

I'd also recommend Shiri. It is a very enjoyable thriller and also star someone you only see in passing here - the wonderful Min-Sik Choi - and I do wish Chihwaseon would get to the top of my rental queue as I missed it on BBC4!

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RE: Brotherhood - 20/2/2006 11:42:54 PM

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Just got round to watching this movie and to say I was lown away by it is an understatement. It wipes the floor with Saving Private Ryan. Some of the acting is a tad off but its easily ignored. The Battle scenes are better than anything Hollywood has produced. the obvious thing that sets this movie apart is the relationship between the two Brothers.

What a movie!!

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RE: Brotherhood - 23/3/2006 10:08:20 AM

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I finally got round to watching this last night; I can whole-heartedly agree with the positive comments made above.

Very impressed!

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RE: Brotherhood - 20/8/2006 3:13:15 PM

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I brought this as a blind buy and just watched it and i thought it was great.

There are obvious parallels between it and Private Ryan with the graphic violence and the film being bookended by scenes in the present day but personally i thought this was the better film...and i love Private Ryan.

While some may say the dialogue may be a bit overdramatic, i didn't mind and i was swept up in the film's scope and grandeur. Top notch performances from the two brothers and i can honestly say that tears were streaming down my face for the last 10 mins.

Why can't we or the Americans make such amazing films with a budget of only $13 million? It looked like it cost 100 times that much.

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RE: Brotherhood - 21/8/2006 1:43:48 PM

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saw this finally the other night. i agree with all the positive comments. never been a fan of SPR and this just dumps on it from a great height for me.

incredible and i had no idea how much it cost so thanks for posting that.

WOW. excellent! might watch it again this week.

i too was starting to sucumb to the whole teary eye problem.

powerful stuff! the scene with the bones.

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RE: Brotherhood - 21/8/2006 2:06:07 PM

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i too was starting to sucumb to the whole teary eye problem.

powerful stuff! the scene with the bones.

Good to know it wasn't just me.

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RE: Brotherhood - 15/11/2006 6:47:14 PM

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RE: Brotherhood - 17/11/2006 4:19:45 PM

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very good movie, perhaps a little too melodramatic but still a very good movie
Actress Eun-ju Lee died last year

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RE: Brotherhood - 8/12/2006 4:30:30 PM

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Great film. May have too many battles for its own good. Don't really remember it well since it was long ago that I rented it.

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RE: Brotherhood - 8/12/2006 6:38:26 PM

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Fantastic film, easily rivals Saving Private Ryan for the battles scenes. Bought it ages ago but i've only watched it once, i think it's time i watched it again

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RE: Brotherhood - 24/12/2006 1:25:59 PM

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Just finished watching this and thought it was fantastic. The battle scenes were outstanding, especially considering the cost of the film was so low, but the relationship between the brothers is what made the film so special. I was extremely close to tears at the end of the film!

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RE: Brotherhood - 15/12/2008 6:40:15 PM

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I just watched this again... and once more, come the ending... man-tears.

I still can't believe it only cost $13 million. Some of the battle scenes make parts of Saving Private Ryan look like a fracus in a sandpit.

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RE: Brotherhood - 15/12/2008 6:45:46 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Timon

I just watched this again... and once more, come the ending... man-tears.

I think it's compulsory with this film. Bey Logan on the commentary is audibly affected towards the end.

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RE: Brotherhood - 15/12/2008 11:57:43 PM

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quote:

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I just watched this again... and once more, come the ending... man-tears.

Tell me about it.

SPOILERS AHEAD!!!

When you see the dude's grand-daughter looking at him as he breaks down at the place where his brother fell; it just brings home to her something she hadn't known about.

One of these moments..

SPOILERS OVER!!!

Excellent film. One of my favourites on war.

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RE: Brotherhood - 16/12/2008 3:26:47 PM

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Thank god, it's not just me! I cried like a little girl when I saw this for the first time! My girlfriend wants to see it so I'll have to hold it together a bit more next time. Brilliant film.

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RE: Brotherhood - 10/1/2009 11:15:14 PM

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i never heard of this film until i saw it in hmv for �5 so i took a gamble and brought it and thats when i found out im a good gambler! this film was so good! really emotional and brutal but overall - fantastic - im really chuffed i got it now and im glad theres a thread for this not well known korean hit!

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RE: Brotherhood - 13/1/2009 9:20:07 AM

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i really didnt get into this that much...
i thought the plot was way too convulted and some dodgy effects really ruined some of the latter battle scenes (i.e the planes flying over, they really werent needed, and they looked appalling, i was cringing the whole time they were there)
i was unfortunately pretty disappointed with this, since i'd been looking forward to it for a long time.

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RE: Brotherhood - 13/1/2009 3:33:31 PM

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I liked this movie ... some of it was a bit too cheesy ... but overall I enjoyed it, and man-tears certainly were the order of the day.

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RE: Brotherhood - 13/2/2009 12:42:30 AM

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What to say about this splendid , gorgeous movie ? In one sentence : the best war movie I have ever seen - ever! It is perfect in every aspect: every scene is well done with sense and attention,really catching story , history facts.... just everything. The other chapter is special effects. These were done absolutely tremendous and it is far better than any American film and with deep storyline which almost made me cry you will get the full-value experience.

The movie starts retrospectively when old man returns in his thoughts to the Korean War where he fought next to his older brother. He seemed to him tough and rude and that he wants to reach the medal by any means that necessary. But all this is the only way to get younger brother back home to his sick old mother. The all movie draws changes of both brothers and their attitude to war and life. And finally when the older one things that his brother is dead he has nothing to fight for and changes the side - becomes one of the Communist. But during one of the battles they meet each other again this time everyone at other side - they are enemies now.....(very end of the movie)

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RE: Brotherhood - 28/11/2011 12:35:06 PM

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This weekend I watched 71-Into The Fire which is based on a true story of a group of 71 undertrained and undergunned student-soldiers for South Korea during the Korean War, who were mostly killed on August 11, 1950, during the Battle of P'ohang-dong, while defending P'ohang-dong girls' middle school.

Again, with a minimal budget, the Koreans really do know how to shoot an action/war scene. The only thing really hampering it was some gratuitous melodrama and the forced storyline about the 'bad apple who eventually does the right thing'.

Still, it was a decent film which I'd recommend.

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My Way: From The Director Of Brotherhood - 11/1/2013 9:47:36 AM

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As a fan of Brotherhood and director Je-Kyu Kang's other film Shiri, I was surprised to learn that he made a film in 2011 that slipped under my radar.

It's called My Way, and despite sounding like a Frank Sinatra biopic, it seems to be another epic war film.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1606384/

"Inspired by a true story. Jun Shik works for Tatsuo's grandfather's farm while Korea is colonized by Japan, but he has a dream to participate in Tokyo Olympics as a marathon runner. Tatsuo also aims to become a marathon runner, so the two are in rivalry. But war breaks out and they both are forced to enlist in the army. Tatsuo becomes the head of defense in Jun Shik's unit and he devises a scheme but fails. Jun Shik and Tatsuo are captured by the Soviets. They run away but soon are captured by Germans and forced to separate. In 1944, they meet again at the shores of Normandy."

Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpYk5ww8Jjc

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RE: My Way: From The Director Of Brotherhood - 11/1/2013 9:53:01 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Timon

As a fan of Brotherhood and director Je-Kyu Kang's other film Shiri, I was surprised to learn that he made a film in 2011 that slipped under my radar.

It's called My Way, and despite sounding like a Frank Sinatra biopic, it seems to be another epic war film.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1606384/

"Inspired by a true story. Jun Shik works for Tatsuo's grandfather's farm while Korea is colonized by Japan, but he has a dream to participate in Tokyo Olympics as a marathon runner. Tatsuo also aims to become a marathon runner, so the two are in rivalry. But war breaks out and they both are forced to enlist in the army. Tatsuo becomes the head of defense in Jun Shik's unit and he devises a scheme but fails. Jun Shik and Tatsuo are captured by the Soviets. They run away but soon are captured by Germans and forced to separate. In 1944, they meet again at the shores of Normandy."

Trailer: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpYk5ww8Jjc

I watched this last weekend and bloody loved it! I originally got it as it mentioned marathon running so thought it would be a good watch but wasn't prepared for how emotional it would be. Loved Brotherhood as well. I'm currently waiting for Friend from Lovefilm as I need to see more of the rather delicious Dong-Gun Jang

Highly recommend this film

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RE: My Way: From The Director Of Brotherhood - 11/1/2013 10:02:38 AM

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I'm a big fan of this movie. Don't get the negative comments about Saving Private Ryan that have crept in, but I agree that Brotherhood is brilliant. I think Shiri is a great action movie, too... and features Yunjin Kim from Lost in her breakout role.

See also Feng Xiaogang's 'Assembly'.

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RE: My Way: From The Director Of Brotherhood - 11/1/2013 10:17:14 AM

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Just realised I have Coastguard and The Warriors Way on my rental list as well so a right Dong-Gun Jang fest

I've just added Shiri and Assembly

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RE: My Way: From The Director Of Brotherhood - 11/1/2013 10:22:31 AM

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The Warrior's Way is quite an odd experience. It's like a supernatural ninja western that is really rubbish, but highly entertaining.

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RE: My Way: From The Director Of Brotherhood - 11/1/2013 10:25:51 AM

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quote:

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The Warrior's Way is quite an odd experience. It's like a supernatural ninja western that is really rubbish, but highly entertaining.

Yep. It's really not a good film... but I like it anyway.

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RE: My Way: From The Director Of Brotherhood - 11/1/2013 12:37:59 PM

Timon

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Hobbitonlass

Just realised I have Coastguard and The Warriors Way on my rental list as well so a right Dong-Gun Jang fest

I've just added Shiri and Assembly

quote:

Hobbitonlass

Ha. Dong-fest.

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RE: My Way: From The Director Of Brotherhood - 11/1/2013 2:05:09 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Timon

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hobbitonlass

Just realised I have Coastguard and The Warriors Way on my rental list as well so a right Dong-Gun Jang fest

I've just added Shiri and Assembly

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Hobbitonlass

Ha. Dong-fest.