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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 14/10/2013 1:53:55 PM   
DONOVAN KURTWOOD


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'Drive' is one of the most over rated films of the last decade.

Just no to this-in fact...
Drive is one of the most under rated films of the last decade.


http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/drive_2011/

Yep, looks pretty underrated to me

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 14/10/2013 2:00:47 PM   
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Overrated and underrated - Two of the most loathsome and overused terms used on the internet.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 14/10/2013 3:00:05 PM   
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Under rated is the new over rated.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 14/10/2013 3:03:43 PM   
CriticNumberOne


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ORIGINAL: DONOVAN KURTWOOD

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ORIGINAL: CriticNumberOne


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ORIGINAL: siegfried

'Drive' is one of the most over rated films of the last decade.

Just no to this-in fact...
Drive is one of the most under rated films of the last decade.


http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/drive_2011/

Yep, looks pretty underrated to me
Rotten Tomatoes isn't definitive-it's quite a basic tool for gauging cinema.
I was refering to a lot of the more mainstream social media sites.
Maybe it's a Refn thing,or Gosling himself,i just don't feel the film,or these two guys are as well received as they should be.



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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 14/10/2013 3:09:22 PM   
MonsterCat


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Under rated is the new over rated.


Either way it's a lazy shorthand term used by those who have no real respect for other people's opinions.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 14/10/2013 3:19:46 PM   
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Maybe it's a Refn thing,or Gosling himself,i just don't feel the film,or these two guys are as well received as they should be.


Gosling gets written off a lot because of his looks, and some of his more obsessive fanbase do tend to fawn over him to a sickening degree
He does get a lot of praise as well though (deservedly so), so its pretty even

I don't think Refn is really famous enough for the average film goer. They mostly know him as 'that guy that made Drive'

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 14/10/2013 3:28:47 PM   
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Gosling gets written off a lot because of his looks, and some of his more obsessive fanbase do tend to fawn over him to a sickening degree



Yeah MC, your uncontrollable lust for Gosling has reached a sickening degree. It must be stopped.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 14/10/2013 3:31:01 PM   
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I didnt want to say it

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 14/10/2013 4:03:13 PM   
MonsterCat


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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 14/10/2013 5:38:19 PM   
justfontaine


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Okay, actually, 'Chronicle' was the best 'superhero' film of 2012.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 14/10/2013 6:12:45 PM   
CriticNumberOne


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ORIGINAL: MonsterCat


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ORIGINAL: CriticNumberOne

Under rated is the new over rated.


Either way it's a lazy shorthand term used by those who have no real respect for other people's opinions.

Padon moi,that's a bit harsh!
They may be overused and lazy,but they're hardly disrespectful!

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 14/10/2013 6:14:54 PM   
CriticNumberOne


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Okay, actually, 'Chronicle' was the best 'superhero' film of 2012.

I will agree,and thought it looked well for the budget.
Nobody mention Will Smith in response.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 14/10/2013 6:17:26 PM   
CriticNumberOne


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As for Gosling,ok,those who like him tend to be superfans,so that makes up for his lack of normal ones

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 14/10/2013 6:23:09 PM   
MonsterCat


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ORIGINAL: CriticNumberOne

Padon moi,that's a bit harsh!
They may be overused and lazy,but they're hardly disrespectful!


To me, when someone like Siegfried uses the term overrated, it infers that he's right and everyone else who rates Drive highly is wrong. Same goes for underrated. And there is no universal truth when comes to any kind of artform. So yeah, it's like totes disrespectful innit, bro.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 14/10/2013 7:18:26 PM   
CriticNumberOne


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I don't know about Siegfried,but personally speaking,it's not
Everyone reverts to cliche about film at one point or another!

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 14/10/2013 7:49:48 PM   
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"Yo, MonsterCat - what's that Citizen Kane film like?"

"Dude, it is soooooo overrated."

"What kind of criticism is that? That tells me absolutely nothing about the quality of the film or its shortcomings. You're merely telling me you don't like it nearly as much as the majority seemingly do, which gives absolute zero insight. This is why you're a cunt."

That's why overrated is a shit and pointless term.


I would, however, give a slight pass to using underrated if that's not hypocritical of me. That generally seems to be used more to suggest that it's something more people need to see, rather than a criticism of people's opinions of it.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 14/10/2013 7:57:11 PM   
MonsterCat


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There are many reasons why I'm a cunt but using the term overrated isn't one of them.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 14/10/2013 8:06:40 PM   
rawlinson

 

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This is supposed to be an unpopular opinions thread, thinking MC is a cunt is one of the few things this forum agrees on.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 14/10/2013 8:42:26 PM   
elab49


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ORIGINAL: matty_b

"Yo, MonsterCat - what's that Citizen Kane film like?"

"Dude, it is soooooo overrated."

"What kind of criticism is that? That tells me absolutely nothing about the quality of the film or its shortcomings. You're merely telling me you don't like it nearly as much as the majority seemingly do, which gives absolute zero insight. This is why you're a cunt."

That's why overrated is a shit and pointless term.


I would, however, give a slight pass to using underrated if that's not hypocritical of me. That generally seems to be used more to suggest that it's something more people need to see, rather than a criticism of people's opinions of it.


The only, possibly redundant, point there is that that applies to any single description of a film - great, marvellous, shit etc. So over-rated is just one of many. But it is still an opinion.

But Siegfried is clearly not correct. Not in a world that spawned There Will Be Blood......

(note to self - at least I'm safe from MC. His inamorata isn't in it).

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 14/10/2013 8:43:39 PM   
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I would, however, give a slight pass to using underrated if that's not hypocritical of me. That generally seems to be used more to suggest that it's something more people need to see, rather than a criticism of people's opinions of it.


As in, "The Other Guys is the most underrated comedy of the last 10 years"?

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 14/10/2013 9:56:35 PM   
siegfried


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To me, when someone like Siegfried uses the term overrated, it infers that he's right and everyone else who rates Drive highly is wrong.

I wasn't inferring anything of the kind. I simply said what I did because I felt like doing a little shit stirring, and wanted to see what kind of a reaction I'd get. Most satisfying.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 15/10/2013 1:32:19 AM   
CriticNumberOne


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So it's about you not the film?
Ok.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 15/10/2013 1:34:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: MonsterCat


To me, when someone like Siegfried uses the term overrated, it infers that he's right and everyone else who rates Drive highly is wrong.

I wasn't inferring anything of the kind. I simply said what I did because I felt like doing a little shit stirring, and wanted to see what kind of a reaction I'd get. Most satisfying.


So basically, you were trolling?



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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 15/10/2013 10:07:25 AM   
elab49


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ORIGINAL: siegfried


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ORIGINAL: MonsterCat


To me, when someone like Siegfried uses the term overrated, it infers that he's right and everyone else who rates Drive highly is wrong.

I wasn't inferring anything of the kind. I simply said what I did because I felt like doing a little shit stirring, and wanted to see what kind of a reaction I'd get. Most satisfying.


Could we not admit to deliberately trolling please? We have had enough career shit-stirrers on here without people doing it for the jollies.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 15/10/2013 10:10:50 AM   
matty_b


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quote:

ORIGINAL: elab49

quote:

ORIGINAL: matty_b

"Yo, MonsterCat - what's that Citizen Kane film like?"

"Dude, it is soooooo overrated."

"What kind of criticism is that? That tells me absolutely nothing about the quality of the film or its shortcomings. You're merely telling me you don't like it nearly as much as the majority seemingly do, which gives absolute zero insight. This is why you're a cunt."

That's why overrated is a shit and pointless term.


I would, however, give a slight pass to using underrated if that's not hypocritical of me. That generally seems to be used more to suggest that it's something more people need to see, rather than a criticism of people's opinions of it.


The only, possibly redundant, point there is that that applies to any single description of a film - great, marvellous, shit etc. So over-rated is just one of many. But it is still an opinion.

But Siegfried is clearly not correct. Not in a world that spawned There Will Be Blood......

(note to self - at least I'm safe from MC. His inamorata isn't in it).


Well, no. Great, marvellous or shit still give you some insight into the quality of the film. Not much, but still. Overrated tells you nothing, just the opinion on how others have reacted to it.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 15/10/2013 11:09:58 AM   
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Overrated = underserving of high praise = not really that good. Which is an indication of the quality of the film. Ta da!



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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 15/10/2013 11:13:05 AM   
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Overrated = underserving of high praise
= not really that good. Which is an indication of the quality of the film. Ta da!




But who is the film in question 'overrated' by?



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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 15/10/2013 11:24:14 AM   
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Tales From Earthsea isn't up to the quality of Hayao Miyazaki's best work, but it's still a really good film. Especially for a first attempt.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 15/10/2013 11:28:19 AM   
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ORIGINAL: horribleives


quote:

ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf

Overrated = underserving of high praise
= not really that good. Which is an indication of the quality of the film. Ta da!




But who is the film in question 'overrated' by?




See the Forum Poll last year.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 15/10/2013 11:29:34 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Gimli The Dwarf

Overrated = underserving of high praise = not really that good. Which is an indication of the quality of the film. Ta da!




What the Dwarf said. Conversely, under-rated is an attempt to get a film you do think is good seen by a wider audience or disagreeing with the apparent general view of it as not being that great.

We're all playing semantics- Homer would be so proud

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