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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 15/7/2012 8:55:35 PM

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I have always defended Affleck, probably a few times in this very thread.

Anyone who grows out of hanging with Kevin Smith is ok in my book

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 15/7/2012 9:01:01 PM

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He's a good actor and a great writer / director. I think we're past the times where it was fashionable to bash him for making a couple of career errors.

Hope so anyway, that was some petty, bandwagon-jumping shit right there.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 15/7/2012 9:05:49 PM

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I thought he was alright in Daredevil too.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 15/7/2012 9:07:46 PM

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He has definitely made some dodgy career choices and has also made some lazy choices but there is a decent enough actor behind it all.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 15/7/2012 9:09:17 PM

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I like Affleck even though he isn't always the greatest actor (probably an understatement) but he can be very good. He was great in Good Will Hunting (amazing film by the way) and The Town. The fact that he's a great writer and director lets him off the hook for being terrible in a lot of stuff for me.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 15/7/2012 10:55:00 PM

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Black Jack isn't really an action film though.�Rawlinson's teasing you

It is an adventure movie though. It's the Leigh sci-fi that I want to see, and I don't mean a low-key sci-fi, I mean I want him to remake Star Wars.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 15/7/2012 10:58:49 PM

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MMmmm. I think Garfield's book is - I'd still (and possibly misremembering) say a stretch for Loach's take on it, although it is a lovely looking film.

Totes on board with the Leigh SF. I say Battle Beyond the Stars though - may as well go for the better film.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 15/7/2012 11:11:20 PM

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Leigh would make a movie like Outland, but get rid of the cop thing and just have it be the everyday lives of people on a colony.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 15/7/2012 11:18:38 PM

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Leigh would make a movie like Outland, but get rid of the cop thing and just have it be the everyday lives of people on a colony.

I'd pay to see that. With most science fiction it's the story that lets it down for me. I'd love to see a film without a plot set in the Minority Report city for example, or the day to day life of a random mutant child (ala Kes) on Total Recall's Mars.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 15/7/2012 11:20:57 PM

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Leigh would make a movie like Outland, but get rid of the cop thing and just have it be the everyday lives of people on a colony.

So Alien, where it focusses on Brett and Parker, there's no actual Alien but there is a lot of discussion about working hours and workers' shares?

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 15/7/2012 11:22:29 PM

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Leigh would make a movie like Outland, but get rid of the cop thing and just have it be the everyday lives of people on a colony.

So Alien, where it focusses on Brett and Parker, there's no actual Alien but there is a lot of discussion about working hours and workers' shares?

Exactly! And much like Adam I would watch the heck out of that. No big galaxy saving quests. No big mysteries. Just day to day life in a sci-fi setting.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 15/7/2012 11:25:37 PM

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Apropos of nothing, this is one of the reasons why Twilight Samurai is so bloody good.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 15/7/2012 11:26:13 PM

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Like The Tree Of Life without the creation parts or the religious themes and set in another universe?

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 15/7/2012 11:33:36 PM

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People who complain about the aliens in Kingdom are missing the point by a country mile. The whole point is that it is a different era. The 50s. Alien paranoia has replaced Nazi paranoia. Indy has moved on, and so should we. The aliens are as believable a mcguffin as the ark of the covenant, or the holy grail, or a bunch of holy stones. The discussions in the scientology and ufo threads should demonstrate that.
The CGI gophers are a minor issue, and the fridge is a bit outr�, but other than that, it's a cracking film. The aliens work perfectly, both within an Indy film, and also identifying it as a different era. If it had been Nazis again, people would have complained that they were trying to rekindle old magic and failing. Instead, they go for something relevant to the time in which it is set, and they get criticised. Damned if they do, damned if they don't...

I like the aliens and think it was a good McGuffin. My only problem was seeing the ship take off at the end. Despite it being no more outlandish than anything else in the films, for me, it just didn't fit well in the Indy universe.
It is, however, a much, much better film than Temple which seems to exist solely to test the patience of its audience.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 15/7/2012 11:40:35 PM

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Kingdom of the Crystal Skull is better than Temple of Doom.

I watched the latter today for the first time in 20 years and I'd forgotten how fucking awful it is.

Yep, agree.

(I can see this gif being very useful in this thread)

It's late and I'm rather drunk but did you just try to make a point with Tracey Fucking Morgan???

I actually just use it 'cause it conveys "No" pretty effectively. And Tracy Morgan's awesome.

In the same way the Holocaust was awesome.

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Dis thread

Goddamit...

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It is pages like this that reminds me why I really should avoid this thread.......

In hindsight, I don't think my shiraz-induced tongue-in-cheek tone made it onto the forum as effectively as I recall. Apologies to all if I pranced majestically over the line.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 15/7/2012 11:48:01 PM

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It is pages like this that reminds me why I really should avoid this thread.......

In hindsight, I don't think my shiraz-induced tongue-in-cheek tone made it onto the forum as effectively as I recall. Apologies to all if I pranced majestically over the line.

I was talking about the posting of the Tracy Morgan gif

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 16/7/2012 12:08:32 AM

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Thinking about it this is probably the third or fourth time in the last two years where Temple of Doom has been the subject on this thread.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 16/7/2012 12:26:14 AM

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Thinking about it this is probably the third or fourth time in the last two years where Temple of Doom has been the subject on this thread.

Cool! Another 200 and it'll catch Prometheus.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 16/7/2012 10:46:19 AM

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I hadn't realised so many people disliked ...Temple Of Doom. Sure, Kate Capshaw's annoying (then again - she's supposed to be) but I've always thought it was better than ...Last Crusade which, while still a great romp, is a little too cuddly for my liking. Spielberg and Lucas may say in hindsight they misjudged the dark tone of ...Temple and it's certainly the nastiest of the three but why's that such a bad thing? It's what Ioved about it. Personally I miss those days when family blockbusters were liberally sprinkled with adult violence and gratuitous swearing. I'd much rather that than the sanitised over-cautious 12A bollocks the young'uns get fed today.
Oh and Bomber's fantastic in it too.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 16/7/2012 10:57:43 AM

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Temple of Doom certainly has the best climax out of the four of them.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 16/7/2012 11:15:07 AM

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Crusade has Denholm Elliott. Of course it's better.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 16/7/2012 11:23:48 AM

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Temple has more annoying characters but the thing about Crystal Skull is that they had already dropped the ball on an Indy film (sorry but Temple pales in comparison to Raiders and Crusade, you bloody non comformists) so there was no excuse in making a film that dissapointing.

They should blood know what works and what doesn't by now. People swinging on branches never works, cgi gophers, fridges that can survive apocalypses, Ray-bloody-Wistone shouting "Jonesy" like a bloated Benny Hill character never bloody works, ants as terrifying creatures and giving John Hurt a terrible role never ever ever ever work. EVER.

Aliens can work, but not when they are cheap plastic discount toys'r'us props. Russians can be great bad guys but not when they are Cate Blanchett in recent form. Shia LaBeouf...can he be good? I just don't know.

The main thing between Temple and Crull is that in Temple we still had a bad-ass Ford whereas in the Crystal yadda yadda we had an old monotonous grump who really didn't even look like he wanted to be there. Prometheus was disspointing?? Please! Indy 4 will never be surpassed in terms of letting the fans down.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 16/7/2012 11:26:01 AM

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Temple has more annoying characters but the thing about Crystal Skull is that they had already dropped the ball on an Indy film (sorry but Temple pales in comparison to Raiders and Crusade, you bloody non comformists) so there was no excuse in making a film that dissapointing.

They should blood know what works and what doesn't� by now. People swinging on branches never works, cgi gophers, fridges that can survive apocalypses, Ray-bloody-Wistone shouting "Jonesy" like a bloated Benny Hill character never bloody works, ants as terrifying creatures and giving John Hurt a terrible role never ever ever ever work. EVER.

Aliens can work, but not when they are cheap plastic discount toys'r'us props. Russians can be great bad guys but not when they are Cate Blanchett in recent form. Shia LaBeouf...can he be good? I just don't know.

He was great in Holes.

Beyond that I've got nothing.

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The main thing between Temple and Crull is that in Temple we still had a bad-ass Ford whereas in the Crystal yadda yadda we had an old monotonous grump who really didn't even look like he wanted to be there. Prometheus was disspointing?? Please! Indy 4 will never be surpassed in terms of letting the fans down.

The Phantom Menace.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 16/7/2012 11:27:15 AM

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If my two cents means anything, I actually don't think that Crystal Skull is a bad film as such. It's just a deeply flawed film that doesn't measure up to the films that came before it and contains a lot of stuff that was silly even for an Indiana Jones flick. Oh, and I really wanted to punch Snoozy LaBeef in the face every time he was in the screen. The man is a black hole of talent and charisma, and the fact he managed to snag Carey Mulligan is utterly bewildering to me.

As for the Aliens, well I never had a problem with that, and it was actually in keeping with that period's fascination with UFOs and Aliens.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 16/7/2012 11:30:15 AM

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If my two cents means anything, I actually don't think that Crystal Skull is a bad film as such. It's just a deeply flawed film that doesn't measure up to the films that came before it and contains a lot of stuff that was silly even for an Indiana Jones flick. Oh, and I really wanted to punch Snoozy LaBeef in the face every time he was in the screen. The man is a black hole of talent and charisma, and the fact he managed to snag Carey Mulligan is utterly bewildering to me.

As for the Aliens, well I never had a problem with that, and it was actually in keeping with that period's fascination with UFOs and Aliens.

It's Sleepy LaBeef and you know it!

He was awful but he had no chance when they introduced him as the films Marlon Brando..honestly. Still not half as annoying as Capshaw.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 16/7/2012 11:35:43 AM

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Is it wrong that I thought Blanchett looked hot with the bob cut and the uniform?

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 16/7/2012 11:38:42 AM

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 16/7/2012 11:39:42 AM

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I really don't mind LaBeouf. From everything I've seen him in he's been perfectly fine.

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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 16/7/2012 11:44:04 AM

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Is it wrong that I thought Blanchett looked hot with the bob cut and the uniform?

Yes, it is. Very wrong.
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RE: YOUR UNPOPULAR OPINION!! - 16/7/2012 12:49:47 PM

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Temple Of Doom is the best Indy film because..

1) It has the best villain ( Mola Ram is a bad ass and scary as hell )

2) It has the best opening of the series ( The first 20 mins if just non stop action adventure perfection )

3) Short Round.A true hero and his relationship with Indy has more of a father/son emotional bond than Indy has with his real son in Kingdom.

4) Its VIOLENT and doesnt pull its punches.Its a sign that Lucas and Speilberg were getting soft when it came to making Crusade and made that more '' family friendly ''.As someone else earlier in this thread said, how is the darkness and violence a BAD thing.Indy goes to hell in this film but he fights his way back.Thats what him so heroic when he triumphs in the end.

5) Willie Scott.She is SUPPOSED to be annoying! Thats what makes her so endearing and the perfect comic foil to Jones.Even to this day i find her exchanges with Indy to be hilarious.Just check out the '' seduction '' scene.

6) The last half hour is non stop action adventure perfection.In fact its one of the best action movies of the eighties.

7) John Williams score.All his Indy scores are great but i loved his new themes for this one.

8) Its the first Indy movie i saw.

9) No cgi Gophers.

10) No Ray sodding Winstone shouting '' JONESY! '' every minute.

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