darth silas
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ORIGINAL: furrybastard
Oh please, the film was hardly a mess. If nothing else, it was an excellently crafted film, beautifully shot and directed.
As for Luthor, I see where you're coming from. However, I don't think its fair to compare it to a character like Batman who, by his very nature, requires a multitude of villains to challenge him in different areas (The Riddler for his detective side, Two Face is his mirror image in many ways, Joker is psychologically the other side of the same coin).
In the Superman films (and comics) it has always been Luthor who is the real threat to Superman - not just physically (i.e. with kryptonite) but also symbolically. In Returns, Luthor describes himself as a Promethean figure, one who is ultimately helping mankind by stealing fire from the gods. In this instance Superman is the god, selfishly using his powers for egotistical means (Luthor's perspective). For all his dastardly acts, Luthor actually thinks he's the hero; he's the saviour of mankind and Superman has undeservedly usurped his rightful place. Luthor wants to be Superman. 
I've always seen the two as brothers; Superman is the favoured son, the one who gets the powers, the acclaim, the reputation while Luthor is the disappointment and holds all the bitterness and jealousy inherent in that kind of relationship. Yet he has the luxury of freedom without any of the responsibilites Superman has, who must literally and metaphorically carry the world on his shoulders.
In my opinion (and I'm sure it differs with yours and many other peoples'!), Singer was the only one to create this kind of relationship so effectively. In both the story and the themes it was dealing with, I believe Luthor was a necessity, an essential cog in the film's machinery. A character like Darkseid or Brainiac wouldn't fit, wouldn't present the kind of symbolic challenges necessary for this particular film. Without Luthor, the film has no real depth, no thematic coherence.
For the sequel, I think they need to present a more physical threat for Superman but Luthor will ultimately be the main villain behind events, controlling the situation and creating the threat.
i see where you are coming from but we have simply seen too much of luthor in the movies already.yes,he will always be supermans greatest enemy but there are many villains and stories that the movies could have used.rehashing the richard donner original wasnt what i wanted from the new movie.please understand that i am a huge superman fan and as much as i wanted to love returns,i couldnt help but be deeply disappointed.
just a huge amount of this film made no sense.why for example has superman no security system for the fortress of solitude.he KNOWS luthor knows where it is.while supes is off in space,luthor just strolls in and even more amazingly,is able to walk away with crystals which can cause massive damage to the planet.he also is able to gain access to detailed info on how to use them without the control panels even asking for anything like a password.
superman should have spent a lot less time stalking lois lane and more on concentrating on building secure doors for the fortress and installing some security systems for his technology.maybe he should have asked batman to get wayne enterprises to renovate the place!
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