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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 30/8/2006 8:31:26 PM   
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Just shortly before Christmas, I think Isaac.  Well, there could well be some copies still around, but retailers will not be able to order any more to sell after the cut off date, can't remember exactly what it was though. 

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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 30/8/2006 8:36:29 PM   
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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 30/8/2006 9:56:47 PM   
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quote:

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DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
Would you pay DVD prices for a VHS?
 
If some other film came out on DVD after being transfered from a 15 year old lazerdisc with absolutely no clean-up done - wouldn't you want to destroy who ever made them?
 
If you buy these DVDs you are a Lucasfilm branded sheep.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.


Huh?  It's not a transfer from the vhs OR the laserdisc release you tard.  Sure the picture wont be as crisp as the recent dvd release, but that's only because the film was cleaned up FOR the SE releases. 

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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 30/8/2006 10:16:02 PM   
directorscut


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quote:

ORIGINAL: obi arin kenobi

quote:

ORIGINAL: directorscut

DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
Would you pay DVD prices for a VHS?
 
If some other film came out on DVD after being transfered from a 15 year old lazerdisc with absolutely no clean-up done - wouldn't you want to destroy who ever made them?
 
If you buy these DVDs you are a Lucasfilm branded sheep.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.


Huh?  It's not a transfer from the vhs OR the laserdisc release you tard.  Sure the picture wont be as crisp as the recent dvd release, but that's only because the film was cleaned up FOR the SE releases. 



Eh?
 
This new information you bring contradicts every other major DVD news source.
 
And
 
Screenshots from the new release:
 

 
Wow. Look at that amazing sharpness and majestic colour. It's almost film like! I can almost tell that's a Jawa behind Luke! 

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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 31/8/2006 12:03:40 AM   
obi arin kenobi

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: directorscut

quote:

ORIGINAL: obi arin kenobi

quote:

ORIGINAL: directorscut

DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
Would you pay DVD prices for a VHS?
 
If some other film came out on DVD after being transfered from a 15 year old lazerdisc with absolutely no clean-up done - wouldn't you want to destroy who ever made them?
 
If you buy these DVDs you are a Lucasfilm branded sheep.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.


Huh?  It's not a transfer from the vhs OR the laserdisc release you tard.  Sure the picture wont be as crisp as the recent dvd release, but that's only because the film was cleaned up FOR the SE releases. 



Eh?
 
This new information you bring contradicts every other major DVD news source.
 
And
 
Screenshots from the new release:
 

 
Wow. Look at that amazing sharpness and majestic colour. It's almost film like! I can almost tell that's a Jawa behind Luke! 


That doesn't look too bad.  It's definitely going to look better than the laserdiscs, which I own.  When people say that its taken from the laserdisc "print,"  that doesn't mean its just a transfer, its just from the film source they used on the laserdisc.  Personally, I'll take the semi washed out colors.  Remember that, for the 04 dvds, all the majestic colors were likely all restored through computers--which Im semi against.  However, if its not anamorphic I wont be buying either, tho im pretty sure they will be.

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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 31/8/2006 12:11:36 AM   
Ripper


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quote:

ORIGINAL: directorscut

quote:

ORIGINAL: obi arin kenobi

quote:

ORIGINAL: directorscut

DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
Would you pay DVD prices for a VHS?
 
If some other film came out on DVD after being transfered from a 15 year old lazerdisc with absolutely no clean-up done - wouldn't you want to destroy who ever made them?
 
If you buy these DVDs you are a Lucasfilm branded sheep.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.


Huh?  It's not a transfer from the vhs OR the laserdisc release you tard.  Sure the picture wont be as crisp as the recent dvd release, but that's only because the film was cleaned up FOR the SE releases. 



Eh?
 
This new information you bring contradicts every other major DVD news source.
 
And
 
Screenshots from the new release:
 

 
Wow. Look at that amazing sharpness and majestic colour. It's almost film like! I can almost tell that's a Jawa behind Luke! 


But isnt the whole point that they havent been touched? Jeez, Lucas really cant win!

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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 31/8/2006 12:11:39 AM   
steelydan3

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: obi arin kenobi

quote:

ORIGINAL: directorscut

quote:

ORIGINAL: obi arin kenobi

quote:

ORIGINAL: directorscut

DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
Would you pay DVD prices for a VHS?
 
If some other film came out on DVD after being transfered from a 15 year old lazerdisc with absolutely no clean-up done - wouldn't you want to destroy who ever made them?
 
If you buy these DVDs you are a Lucasfilm branded sheep.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.


Huh?  It's not a transfer from the vhs OR the laserdisc release you tard.  Sure the picture wont be as crisp as the recent dvd release, but that's only because the film was cleaned up FOR the SE releases. 



Eh?
 
This new information you bring contradicts every other major DVD news source.
 
And
 
Screenshots from the new release:
 

 
Wow. Look at that amazing sharpness and majestic colour. It's almost film like! I can almost tell that's a Jawa behind Luke! 


That doesn't look too bad.  It's definitely going to look better than the laserdiscs, which I own.  When people say that its taken from the laserdisc "print,"  that doesn't mean its just a transfer, its just from the film source they used on the laserdisc.  Personally, I'll take the semi washed out colors.  Remember that, for the 04 dvds, all the majestic colors were likely all restored through computers--which Im semi against.  However, if its not anamorphic I wont be buying either, tho im pretty sure they will be.



It's non anamorphic, so I guess you won't be getting them. 

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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 31/8/2006 12:17:19 AM   
obi arin kenobi

 

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How the fuck do they sell NON anamorphic films?  Boggles the mind.  I mean, the photo certainly looks anamorphic, no?

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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 31/8/2006 12:17:50 AM   
steelydan3

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Ripper

quote:

ORIGINAL: directorscut

quote:

ORIGINAL: obi arin kenobi

quote:

ORIGINAL: directorscut

DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.
 
Would you pay DVD prices for a VHS?
 
If some other film came out on DVD after being transfered from a 15 year old lazerdisc with absolutely no clean-up done - wouldn't you want to destroy who ever made them?
 
If you buy these DVDs you are a Lucasfilm branded sheep.
 
DO NOT BUY THESE DVDS.


Huh?  It's not a transfer from the vhs OR the laserdisc release you tard.  Sure the picture wont be as crisp as the recent dvd release, but that's only because the film was cleaned up FOR the SE releases. 



Eh?
 
This new information you bring contradicts every other major DVD news source.
 
And
 
Screenshots from the new release:
 

 
Wow. Look at that amazing sharpness and majestic colour. It's almost film like! I can almost tell that's a Jawa behind Luke! 


But isnt the whole point that they havent been touched? Jeez, Lucas really cant win!


Though the thing is Ripper, people would actually like better picture quality, like the Bond films that have been restored for the DVD.  It doesn't change anything about the actual films, just makes the picture look better and it would bring it closer to how it looked in the cinema the first time around, which is what the people who restore these films tell us.  What gets people's goat is these are VHS quality, non anamorphic films with no extras and you have you buy the Special edition most people already have to get them. 

Oh, and for Isaac who was asking earlier, they're being (apparently) returned to the vaults of Lucasfilm for good on the 31st of December. 

< Message edited by steelydan3 -- 31/8/2006 12:21:36 AM >


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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 31/8/2006 12:19:12 AM   
steelydan3

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: obi arin kenobi

How the fuck do they sell NON anamorphic films?  Boggles the mind.  I mean, the photo certainly looks anamorphic, no?


That's why people are up in arms, 'cause even the crappest releases of DVDs have anamorphic picture. 

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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 31/8/2006 12:42:36 AM   
Ripper


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For the incredibly stupid ones (not me, oh noooo, anamorphic is the same as 4:3 is it not?

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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 31/8/2006 1:02:25 AM   
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That doesn't look too bad.  It's definitely going to look better than the laserdiscs, which I own.  When people say that its taken from the laserdisc "print,"  that doesn't mean its just a transfer, its just from the film source they used on the laserdisc.  Personally, I'll take the semi washed out colors.  Remember that, for the 04 dvds, all the majestic colors were likely all restored through computers--which Im semi against.  However, if its not anamorphic I wont be buying either, tho im pretty sure they will be.



"Semi against"? You mean you haven't made up your mind whether you're against them or not? It's hardly a violation of the film.  You speak as if the computer raped the film.  They're only releasing these coz there was so much demand for them.

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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 31/8/2006 1:04:50 AM   
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As opposed to all other dvds being released because no one wantede them?

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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 31/8/2006 2:00:56 AM   
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I'm confused (there's a switch!). Some of you folks are saying the originals are non-anamorphic transfers. So you're saying these are non-letterboxed, pan-and-scan versions? The example that was shown looked letterboxed to me (and fine quality, too). I've been debating whether or not to buy these, but if they're pan-and-scan, no way. The Amazon site states they are widescreen versions. Who's right, here? I gots ta know! 

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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 31/8/2006 7:51:58 AM   
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nonono. anamorphic is to do with your (if you have one) widescreen tv. if you watch a full screen film on a WS tv the image will fill the top/bottom of the screen but of course not the extra black space at the sides. if you watch a 1.85:1 film on video it would fill the same space. but you basically zoom in so the film fills the 1.85:1 screen. make sense?. with dvds alot of early dvds were non anamorphic so you had to zoom in so it filled your WS tv. but anamorphic it automatically knows you have a widescreen tv and fill the space. i dont own a WS tv but apparently the image quality isnt quite as good when it isnt anamorphic.

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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 31/8/2006 8:05:07 AM   
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Cheers, demondemon. I've just got an average-joe Sony 59cm 4:3 tube set. It sounds like I'll be contributing further to Mr.Lucas' well-feathered nest egg. Dammit! 

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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 31/8/2006 8:13:32 AM   
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Anamorphic, 4:3, 1.85:1. It all makes my head hurt and I still have no idea what people are on about


I know I'm being dim, but my grasp of all such matters is that films are either widesrceen or not.  I need help

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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 31/8/2006 8:20:53 AM   
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Yep, it sounds like they are indeed widescreen, Gimli-anamorphic in this context only applies to widescreen TV's. Of which I have yet to buy...

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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 31/8/2006 8:23:07 AM   
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So on a non-widescreen TV, the films will appear as widescreen, with the bars at top and bottom?


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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 31/8/2006 8:31:49 AM   
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You got it.

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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 31/8/2006 12:56:13 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: demondemon

nonono. anamorphic is to do with your (if you have one) widescreen tv. if you watch a full screen film on a WS tv the image will fill the top/bottom of the screen but of course not the extra black space at the sides. if you watch a 1.85:1 film on video it would fill the same space. but you basically zoom in so the film fills the 1.85:1 screen. make sense?. with dvds alot of early dvds were non anamorphic so you had to zoom in so it filled your WS tv. but anamorphic it automatically knows you have a widescreen tv and fill the space. i dont own a WS tv but apparently the image quality isnt quite as good when it isnt anamorphic.


Perfect sense

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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 31/8/2006 1:42:07 PM   
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I do have the 4 disc one. And even though i am losing the documentary. its not the sort of doc id watch more than once really. i enjoyed it. But thats about it.



Correct me if i'm wrong but isn't it the same documentary they show on the documentary channel quite a lot? It's just i saw it on there only a few days ago in fact.

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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 31/8/2006 2:04:48 PM   
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a shorter version of it did the rounds on the biography channel.


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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 31/8/2006 2:12:52 PM   
demondemon

 

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films are usually either 2.35:1 which is really wide.
or 1.85:1 which is not as wide.

films are then pan n scanned for 4:3 on tv. with 2.35 looking far worse as it loses far more of the picture.
i think sky are showing the star wars films at 4:3 which will look terrible.

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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 31/8/2006 2:24:11 PM   
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Wow, thats terrible.

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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 31/8/2006 4:09:53 PM   
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What gets people's goat is these are VHS quality.....

What get my goat is people refering to them as 'VHS quality'...they're using the same masters as they used for the Laserdisc release, so they're going to look better than the Laserdisc version.

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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 31/8/2006 4:15:38 PM   
Ripper


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Hes just shit stirring. That or hes phenominally stupid.

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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 31/8/2006 4:23:49 PM   
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Hes just shit stirring. That or hes phenominally stupid.

A little from column A, a little from column B?

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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 31/8/2006 4:24:33 PM   
Ripper


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quote:

ORIGINAL: RuffKut

quote:

ORIGINAL: Ripper

Hes just shit stirring. That or hes phenominally stupid.

A little from column A, a little from column B?




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RE: Star Wars Original Theatrical Releases! - 31/8/2006 5:09:35 PM   
steelydan3

 

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quote:

ORIGINAL: RuffKut

quote:

ORIGINAL: steelydan3

What gets people's goat is these are VHS quality.....

What get my goat is people refering to them as 'VHS quality'...they're using the same masters as they used for the Laserdisc release, so they're going to look better than the Laserdisc version.


Ruffkut, I'm sorryI have read that they were mastered from laser disc.  However, I do want to know, and I'm not trying to have a pop, I don't understand that's all-how if they master them from the Laserdisc will they actually be better than the laserdisc?  The fact that they're on DVD, doesn't actually just improve the picture, does it?   

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