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This United bias bollocks people mention really rustles my jims.
I wouldn't say there's an out and out conscious bias and I've openly scoffed at talk of conspiracies, but officials (and for that matter, the FA and the BBC) have a habit of either giving them the benefit of the doubt or (even worse) bottling decisions, mostly out of plain fear but occasionally in face of intimidation from the players or manager (for the latter see: the second half of the Newcastle game). It's nothing new, and it's neither worse or better than it has been for years but it's always there. Fergie and Man U fans seem to be in the huff over wednesday's game in particular because the officials didn't let themselves be bullied. As I said before, I actually like Ferguson but expecting the rules of the game to be subverted and banging on about of some mythical touch by Cisse (while ignoring the fact that he was in initially pushed by Evans) is un-sporting and deluded in the extreme. Is it not enough to just win fair and square?
And re: the lack of a ban. I personally couldn't care less if he got banned or not but if there's a compelling reason - other than the FA being gutless - why he wasn't punished (and Mancini was) I'd love to hear it.
Out of interest who has been saying Cisse touched the ball? I've never denied that he didn't, but the offside rule states that if a player is interfering with play, then he can be deemed as offside, I think this is what United fans are annoyed at, personally I thought that the pushing and shoving by both Cisse and Evans could be construed as interfering with play, including that Cisse was blocking De Gea's line of sight, I can see why some United fans are pissed, when I saw it originally I thought it should have been disallowed, in hindsight its one of those that could've been given either way.
I think my annoyance with people saying that United get all the bias (not yourself ives), is that people forget things like Rooney in 2011 getting banned because he swore which was unheard of at the time, the 5 match touchline ban Ferguson got in the same year or many other charges like that, but as soon as we get a favourable decision United detractors instantly point to a bias in our favour. Hell whenever Howard Webb refs a United game, regardless of whether he had any big decisions in the game, there'll be a section of fans who claim that he was United's 12th man and we bought the league.
With regards to Wednesdays game, the thing is we don't know what was said between Ferguson and Dean and before the goal was given Alan Pardew acted just as badly, but Dean has made his report, clearly he's said that he doesn't think it was anything bad, but the press and certain fans don't want to accept that and are still baying for blood.
Sorry, I didn't mean anyone said Cisse had touched the ball, I was referring to Ferguson saying Cisse (actually, he said Ba in his post-match interview but we'll let him off with that one  ) touched Evans' arm when he barely did at all and it and the replay clearly shows that Evans did all the pushing and grabbing. I agree Pardew was equally animated straight after the goal but only for thirty seconds or something and at least he was (for once) correct. I personally think berating and badgering the officials at the beginning of and at various points during the second half (especially when your perceived injustice is wafer thin) is considerably worse.
Mind, for the record, I don't think it's just United who occasionally get the benefit of bottling refs and yes, it works against Man U sometimes too - I said on here at the time that Rooney getting banned for swearing was a disgrace and I'll be the first to admit when Shearer was England captain he used to get away with all sorts for us.
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