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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 9/12/2012 2:21:35 PM   
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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 9/12/2012 2:24:08 PM   
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 Only just put Sky Sports on...thought this was the 4pm game!

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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 9/12/2012 2:49:33 PM   
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 I knew the moment that goal was (wrongly )disallowed for offside that City were going to score on the break. De Gea was unlucky, he made 2 good saves and was let down by some Keystone Cops defending.

We'll lose this now I fear.

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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 9/12/2012 3:12:15 PM   
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 Rooney is just class...always picks the right option. Amazed at how many doubters he still has.

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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 9/12/2012 3:22:01 PM   
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 That's fucking disgusting...fucking grown men doing that. Grow the fuck up you cunts

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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 9/12/2012 3:26:49 PM   
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 Was he celebrating in front of the City fans? If he was, what did Ferdinand expect going on like that? Not that that excuses the fans throwing shit but there's always going to be a scumbag or 2 in every crowd.

Nasri is a massive fanny all the same.

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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 9/12/2012 3:27:57 PM   
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 That's been coming for awhile, horrible scenes but hopefully this will propel football to look to follow in the example of the likes of cricket and rugby both on and off the field. The actions of certain players and fans (some on the pitch today) have been disgraceful this season and it's brought this game back about 20 years, just when it seemed things where starting to get better. Sort your fucking selves out, get a little self-control and maybe focus on throwing that kind of passion into the actual game of football.

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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 9/12/2012 3:29:58 PM   
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 I actually thought he punched himself in the head when I first saw it.

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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 9/12/2012 3:31:06 PM   
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Was he celebrating in front of the City fans? If he was, what did Ferdinand expect going on like that? Not that that excuses the fans throwing shit but there's always going to be a scumbag or 2 in every crowd.

Nasri is a massive fanny all the same.


He's been a massive arsehole of late too, not at all justifying it but show a little self-control, it's unacceptable that he's assaulted and I hope any of those involved are caught and face the full force of the law but this should force everyone in football to take a step back and take a long hard look at themselves.

What a disappointing end to what, as a neutral, was a wonderful game of football.

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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 9/12/2012 3:31:17 PM   
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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 9/12/2012 3:31:37 PM   
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 Balls, missed the last 10 minutes as I lost control of the telly to the kids. I prefer Mamma Mia to seeing us win in the derby anyway...

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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 9/12/2012 3:33:30 PM   
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Balls, missed the last 10 minutes as I lost control of the telly to the kids. I prefer Mamma Mia to seeing us win in the derby anyway...


Well be thankful as you wouldn't have wanted your kids to see much of the last ten minutes anyway.

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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 9/12/2012 3:34:23 PM   
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 Wow! What a game! My heart us still racing!

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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 9/12/2012 5:37:05 PM   
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What a day!

Also, I despise Tevez.

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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 9/12/2012 5:48:29 PM   
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 Its very important for me to see United win the league this season because I've made a bet (at the start of the season) with a City fan who thinks " City cruise it".
So hopefully,for selfish reasons,United don't bottle it this time round.

Concerning the incident involving Rio and the coin.I've heard some City fans say Rio celebrated the winner at the City-fan section but I've also seen evidence that City fans were throwing coins at United players way before that incident arose.
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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 9/12/2012 5:50:29 PM   
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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 9/12/2012 7:48:46 PM   
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Even at full time it would seem City are still throwing money at their problems.

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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 9/12/2012 9:08:04 PM   
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Even at full time it would seem City are still throwing money at their problems.




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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 23/12/2012 5:12:27 PM   
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So Ferguson accuses a player of attempted murder. This is a new low even for him. Hopefully the FA throw the book at the red-nose reindeer and Williams sues the pants off him.

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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 23/12/2012 7:18:05 PM   
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 Accidental contact from a clearance vs. the player who the ball hit getting up and grabbing the other by the throat.

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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 23/12/2012 7:37:22 PM   
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So Ferguson accuses a player of attempted murder. This is a new low even for him. Hopefully the FA throw the book at the red-nose reindeer and Williams sues the pants off him.


I don't think even Ferguson believes that, but what are the red tops going to talk about tomorrow? The less than average performance by United (particularly Rooney and Valencia), or Ferguson's comments? He's deflected the attention from his players to himself, which is a trait he's done regularly in his career.

The thing is I don't think it was accidental, and could have easily been a red card. The whistle had already gone, its not like it was hard to see RVP was on the floor and he didn't even need to clear the ball. Having said that RVP could've been done for his reaction as well, completely understandable, but in todays day and age, that could easily have been another red card.


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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 23/12/2012 11:59:54 PM   
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I don't think even Ferguson believes that, but what are the red tops going to talk about tomorrow? The less than average performance by United (particularly Rooney and Valencia), or Ferguson's comments? He's deflected the attention from his players to himself, which is a trait he's done regularly in his career.


Deflecting attention is one thing but coming out with the outrageous and totally bullshit comments is another. And a draw to Swansea is hardly a disaster and something to deflect attention away from.

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The thing is I don't think it was accidental, and could have easily been a red card. The whistle had already gone, its not like it was hard to see RVP was on the floor and he didn't even need to clear the ball. Having said that RVP could've been done for his reaction as well, completely understandable, but in todays day and age, that could easily have been another red card.


There is no point at which Williams looks at RVP. The whole time his eyes are on the ball. Do you really think he wanted to hit RVP in the head and risk a rebound? And if he wanted to hurt him do you think kicking the ball at him was the most effective way of hurting him if he wanted to? Nope, if Williams wanted to hurt him he could have done it more effectively a hundred different ways.

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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 24/12/2012 2:18:02 PM   
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There is no point at which Williams looks at RVP. The whole time his eyes are on the ball. Do you really think he wanted to hit RVP in the head and risk a rebound? And if he wanted to hurt him do you think kicking the ball at him was the most effective way of hurting him if he wanted to? Nope, if Williams wanted to hurt him he could have done it more effectively a hundred different ways.


Have to disagree there, if you look at the video he's looking at RVP as he goes down and keeps his eye on him before kicking the ball at him in frustration. You can tell by the way he moves towards the ball and has an eye on RVP that he meant to hit him, it may be a moment of madness and maybe he didn't set out to hurt him but it doesn't help that Williams feels he needs to lie about it on tv afterwards.

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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 24/12/2012 3:17:40 PM   
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Is there a video that shows where his eyes are looking? Someone's head facing a certain direction is no indication of what they're looking at. If my head's facing down am I looking at my shoelaces, the ground, chewing gum etc? It's impossible to look at them all at the same time.

The whole thing happens so quickly too, that if we have to watch a video replay to see what happened, imagine how quickly it would have happened on the pitch?

Seems more like a dangerous lapse in concentration to me.

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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 24/12/2012 3:38:14 PM   
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There is no point at which Williams looks at RVP. The whole time his eyes are on the ball. Do you really think he wanted to hit RVP in the head and risk a rebound? And if he wanted to hurt him do you think kicking the ball at him was the most effective way of hurting him if he wanted to? Nope, if Williams wanted to hurt him he could have done it more effectively a hundred different ways.


Have to disagree there, if you look at the video he's looking at RVP as he goes down and keeps his eye on him before kicking the ball at him in frustration. You can tell by the way he moves towards the ball and has an eye on RVP that he meant to hit him, it may be a moment of madness and maybe he didn't set out to hurt him but it doesn't help that Williams feels he needs to lie about it on tv afterwards.


I've looked at the video quite a few times and seems to me he's looking at the ball.



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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 24/12/2012 5:16:12 PM   
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There is no point at which Williams looks at RVP. The whole time his eyes are on the ball. Do you really think he wanted to hit RVP in the head and risk a rebound? And if he wanted to hurt him do you think kicking the ball at him was the most effective way of hurting him if he wanted to? Nope, if Williams wanted to hurt him he could have done it more effectively a hundred different ways.


Have to disagree there, if you look at the video he's looking at RVP as he goes down and keeps his eye on him before kicking the ball at him in frustration. You can tell by the way he moves towards the ball and has an eye on RVP that he meant to hit him, it may be a moment of madness and maybe he didn't set out to hurt him but it doesn't help that Williams feels he needs to lie about it on tv afterwards.


I've looked at the video quite a few times and seems to me he's looking at the ball.




You can see from his expression he's aware of where RVP is, his right eye is raised and this appears to indicate what he's aiming at. I'm no expert on expressions or body language but IMO when the whistle blew he lost it and within a second he's kicked the ball against RVP in temper.


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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 24/12/2012 5:36:48 PM   
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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 24/12/2012 7:05:57 PM   
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Accidental contact from a clearance vs. the player who the ball hit getting up and grabbing the other by the throat.

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Accidental? Are you 100% certain of that? I very much doubt it.

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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 24/12/2012 7:14:43 PM   
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I am far less convinced it was deliberate than accidental.

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RE: England's Most Succesful Club - The Man Utd Thread - 25/12/2012 2:44:48 AM   
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 It was just an accident. You know, in the same way Van Persie accidentally elbowed Yohan Cabaye in the face off the ball after glancing to check the ref wasn't looking. These things happen. (Though he needn't have gone to all that trouble considering the ref was Howard Webb and Van Persie would have to glass someone to get even a ticking off from that bald botller)

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