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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 25/2/2012 5:13:10 PM

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Her character looks cheap and as I've said before, I find it embarrassing that she is wearing something so utterly cringe-worthy and tacky. It does nothing for her and I find her utterly pointless as a character also, sorry....

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 25/2/2012 5:17:56 PM

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ORIGINAL: OPEN YOUR EYES

:two star trek images in link below:
http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2012/02/24/star-trek-2-photo-benedict-cumberbatch-zachary-quinto/

Her character looks cheap and as I've said before, I find it embarrassing that she is wearing something so utterly cringe-worthy and tacky. It does nothing for her and I find her utterly pointless as a character also, sorry....

I agree her characters look is 'cheap' and 'skanky' looking but thats is up to the costume designers and production/director.
If thats the look they are going for ie modern 1970's outlook, then the clothes/appearances are what the actors must wear.
If they said "i'm not wearing that" then they more than likely be out of that particalar job.
You can blame the performance of the performer but not the appearance.

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 25/2/2012 5:23:02 PM

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ORIGINAL: OPEN YOUR EYES

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ORIGINAL: NinjaShortbread212

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ORIGINAL: OPEN YOUR EYES

:two star trek images in link below:
http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2012/02/24/star-trek-2-photo-benedict-cumberbatch-zachary-quinto/

Her character looks cheap and as I've said before, I find it embarrassing that she is wearing something so utterly cringe-worthy and tacky. It does nothing for her and I find her utterly pointless as a character also, sorry....

I agree her characters look is 'cheap' and 'skanky' looking but thats is up to the costume designers and production/director.
If thats the look they are going for ie modern 1970's outlook, then the clothes/appearances are what the actors must wear.
If they said "i'm not wearing that" then they more than likely be out of that particalar job.
You can blame the performance but not the appearance.

I dislike both to be fair, her character and appearance. Not a good role model in a ny sense in my opinion. I also feel she really doesn't bring anything to the film! But again, that's just my opinion.

I agree with this;

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just there to give birth to the men, die as a plot point or subordinately run around after her boyfriend with no thought other than that in her little featherhead. That really stuck in the craw.

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 25/2/2012 5:28:26 PM

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It's why I split it into both. I've seen a bit too much of her pretty bad CV and she's not impressed me with competence.

Apart from that, the character creation was iditoically regressive and a decent actress couldn't have saved it, IMO.

Having looked through Zoes Filmography I have to say she's been in some pretty amazing films...(lol).
To be fair to her who else was going to play her role?

:two star trek images in link below:
http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2012/02/24/star-trek-2-photo-benedict-cumberbatch-zachary-quinto/

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 25/2/2012 5:31:16 PM

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It's why I split it into both. I've seen a bit too much of her pretty bad CV and she's not impressed me with competence.

Apart from that, the character creation was iditoically regressive and a decent actress couldn't have saved it, IMO.

Having looked through Zoes Filmography I have to say she's been in some pretty amazing films...(lol).
To be fair to her who else was going to play her role?

:two star trek images in link below:
http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2012/02/24/star-trek-2-photo-benedict-cumberbatch-zachary-quinto/

There isn't only one young black actress in Hollywood.

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 26/2/2012 1:07:58 PM

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how come all the hate for for zoe just appeared?

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 26/2/2012 4:25:09 PM

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how come all the hate for for zoe just appeared?

Boredom

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 28/2/2012 8:59:24 AM

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ORIGINAL: OPEN YOUR EYES

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It's why I split it into both. I've seen a bit too much of her pretty bad CV and she's not impressed me with competence.

Apart from that, the character creation was iditoically regressive and a decent actress couldn't have saved it, IMO.

Having looked through Zoes Filmography I have to say she's been in some pretty amazing films...(lol).
To be fair to her who else was going to play her role?

:two star trek images in link below:
http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2012/02/24/star-trek-2-photo-benedict-cumberbatch-zachary-quinto/

An alternative for Saldana for me would have been Naomie Harris, she has the look and the maturity for the role.

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 28/2/2012 10:39:28 AM

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j j not happy about clips-

http://trekmovie.com/2012/02/27/saldana-quinto-talk-leaked-sequel-photos-say-abrams-is-upset/

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/23173/-star-trek-2-set-fight-now-with-video

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 28/2/2012 11:38:15 AM

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ORIGINAL: JIm R

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ORIGINAL: OPEN YOUR EYES

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ORIGINAL: elab49

It's why I split it into both. I've seen a bit too much of her pretty bad CV and she's not impressed me with competence.

Apart from that, the character creation was iditoically regressive and a decent actress couldn't have saved it, IMO.

Having looked through Zoes Filmography I have to say she's been in some pretty amazing films...(lol).
To be fair to her who else was going to play her role?

:two star trek images in link below:
http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2012/02/24/star-trek-2-photo-benedict-cumberbatch-zachary-quinto/

An alternative for Saldana for me would have been Naomie Harris, she has the look and the maturity for the role.

Good call; I've no problem at all with Saldana in the role and from other films I've seen her in (most notably her work in Avatar even if she was a 9ft tall blue cat) I think she's a decent actress. It's more telling that her filmography isn't the best but IMO she's usually come out looking pretty good all the same.

Harris is a good alternate pick though.

Anyone got new theories on Cumberbatch's character identity since those leaked pics? Not being a big Trek man I don't really know the history or characters particularly outside of the films but I believe Abrams/the writers have said he's playing an existing character, not a new creation like Nero. My "evil" Vulcan theory has gone out of the window seeing as he doesn't have the ears so anyone got new ideas?

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 28/2/2012 1:08:14 PM

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Here is a countdown of the 'big 10', from this lot, hard to say.

http://www.emagill.com/rants/eblog070.html

If an original character, may be a re-interpretation of Khan, if newly designed, I would go for a relative of Bana's character in first one.

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 28/2/2012 3:08:49 PM

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ORIGINAL: Marwood

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ORIGINAL: JIm R

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ORIGINAL: OPEN YOUR EYES

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ORIGINAL: elab49

It's why I split it into both. I've seen a bit too much of her pretty bad CV and she's not impressed me with competence.

Apart from that, the character creation was iditoically regressive and a decent actress couldn't have saved it, IMO.

Having looked through Zoes Filmography I have to say she's been in some pretty amazing films...(lol).
To be fair to her who else was going to play her role?

:two star trek images in link below:
http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2012/02/24/star-trek-2-photo-benedict-cumberbatch-zachary-quinto/

An alternative for Saldana for me would have been Naomie Harris, she has the look and the maturity for the role.

Good call; I've no problem at all with Saldana in the role and from other films I've seen her in (most notably her work in Avatar even if she was a 9ft tall blue cat) I think she's a decent actress. It's more telling that her filmography isn't the best but IMO she's usually come out looking pretty good all the same.

Harris is a good alternate pick though.

Anyone got new theories on Cumberbatch's character identity since those leaked pics? Not being a big Trek man I don't really know the history or characters particularly outside of the films but I believe Abrams/the writers have said he's playing an existing character, not a new creation like Nero. My "evil" Vulcan theory has gone out of the window seeing as he doesn't have the ears so anyone got new ideas?

Could be Dr.Roger Corby from the season 1 episode '' What are Little Girls Made Of? ''.He was a mad scientist type who created sentient androids.I cant help but think his apparance and costume is reminescent of that episode.

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 28/2/2012 3:55:25 PM

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Here's some video footage of that fight. http://www.5min.com/Video/Exclusive-Behind-The-Scenes-Of-Star-Trek-2-517283519

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 28/2/2012 3:58:47 PM

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Here's some video footage of that fight. http://www.5min.com/Video/Exclusive-Behind-The-Scenes-Of-Star-Trek-2-517283519

ZOMG, can't wait for this!

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 29/2/2012 10:20:47 AM

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BC on filming trek-

http://trekmovie.com/2012/02/28/cumberbatch-priveledged-to-be-on-star-trek-sequel-talks-working-with-pine-quinto/

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 29/2/2012 2:39:00 PM

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Has there ever been a franchise yet when we didn't know who the villain was going to be like this? Is there going to be a backlash when it's confirmed that it's Khan?

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 29/2/2012 2:47:38 PM

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Has there ever been a franchise yet when we didn't know who the villain was going to be like this? Is there going to be a backlash when it's confirmed that it's Khan?

Its not going to be Khan.

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 1/3/2012 12:15:46 PM

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Has there ever been a franchise yet when we didn't know who the villain was going to be like this? Is there going to be a backlash when it's confirmed that it's Khan?

Well they haven't even released an official synopsis yet have they? I'll admit it's unusual that when Cumberbatch and Eve were officially confirmed as new cast members they didn't announce character names but Anne Hathaway, Tom Hardy, Marion Cottilard and Joseph Gordon Levitt were confirmed cast in TDKR well before any press releases about the film's story and who they were playing came out. Give it a bit of time and when Paramount put out something official they'll probably be revealed then.

I don't think he's Khan either.

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 1/3/2012 1:48:47 PM

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ORIGINAL: The Hooded Man

Has there ever been a franchise yet when we didn't know who the villain was going to be like this? Is there going to be a backlash when it's confirmed that it's Khan?

Its not going to be Khan.

Yeah,he's not going to be Khan.
Personally I think he's going to be a new character,but someone who has certain character outlooks like previous Star Trek enemies.

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 1/3/2012 1:58:55 PM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: OPEN YOUR EYES

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ORIGINAL: Cool Breeze

quote:

ORIGINAL: The Hooded Man

Has there ever been a franchise yet when we didn't know who the villain was going to be like this? Is there going to be a backlash when it's confirmed that it's Khan?

Its not going to be Khan.

Yeah,he's not going to be Khan.
Personally I think he's going to be a new character,but someone who has certain character outlooks like previous Star Trek enemies.

A bigger problem could be that it turns out not to be Khan but a new character who is just a rip-off of Khan (aka, Nemesis).

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 1/3/2012 4:30:12 PM

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ORIGINAL: NinjaShortbread212

quote:

ORIGINAL: OPEN YOUR EYES

:two star trek images in link below:
http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2012/02/24/star-trek-2-photo-benedict-cumberbatch-zachary-quinto/

Her character looks cheap and as I've said before, I find it embarrassing that she is wearing something so utterly cringe-worthy and tacky. It does nothing for her and I find her utterly pointless as a character also, sorry....

I think you ought to be escorted off the bridge for that one.

As for the fight, he doesn't appear to be vulcan/womulan (as Kirk would say with 'numb tongue'). He looks human, but if he's able to go hand-to-hand with a vulcan, then it's possible he's genetically engineered. Although that sounds very similar to Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 1/3/2012 4:31:58 PM

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ORIGINAL: Emyr Thy King

quote:

ORIGINAL: NinjaShortbread212

quote:

ORIGINAL: OPEN YOUR EYES

:two star trek images in link below:
http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2012/02/24/star-trek-2-photo-benedict-cumberbatch-zachary-quinto/

Her character looks cheap and as I've said before, I find it embarrassing that she is wearing something so utterly cringe-worthy and tacky. It does nothing for her and I find her utterly pointless as a character also, sorry....

I think you ought to be escorted off the bridge for that one.

I'm a girl, blame my hormones!

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 1/3/2012 4:36:31 PM

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 1/3/2012 5:11:40 PM

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ORIGINAL: Spaldron

quote:

ORIGINAL: OPEN YOUR EYES

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ORIGINAL: Cool Breeze

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ORIGINAL: The Hooded Man

Has there ever been a franchise yet when we didn't know who the villain was going to be like this? Is there going to be a backlash when it's confirmed that it's Khan?

Its not going to be Khan.

Yeah,he's not going to be Khan.
Personally I think he's going to be a new character,but someone who has certain character outlooks like previous Star Trek enemies.

A bigger problem could be that it turns out not to be Khan but a new character who is just a rip-off of Khan (aka, Nemesis).

Yep,my feelings to.
I just cant see beyond the fact that Bennidict will play a smart-ass character.

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 1/3/2012 5:17:30 PM

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Maybe he's Gary Mitchell and he has some super God-like powers!

Just kidding... I hope it's a new character.

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 1/3/2012 5:45:36 PM

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ORIGINAL: NinjaShortbread212

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ORIGINAL: OPEN YOUR EYES

:two star trek images in link below:
http://moviesblog.mtv.com/2012/02/24/star-trek-2-photo-benedict-cumberbatch-zachary-quinto/

Her character looks cheap and as I've said before, I find it embarrassing that she is wearing something so utterly cringe-worthy and tacky. It does nothing for her and I find her utterly pointless as a character also, sorry....

I think you ought to be escorted off the bridge for that one.

As for the fight, he doesn't appear to be vulcan/womulan (as Kirk would say with 'numb tongue'). He looks human, but if he's able to go hand-to-hand with a vulcan, then it's possible he's genetically engineered. Although that sounds very similar to Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

What Emyr said. I'm going to stay away from Trek news from now on, I don't want to know who Cumberbatch is until I'm sat in the cinema. Bye.

Though I hope he is a new character or someone from Section 31 or Batman.

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 20/3/2012 10:20:31 AM

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latest set pics-

http://trekmovie.com/2012/03/19/more-star-trek-sequel-set-images-simon-pegg-and-zoe-saldana-spotted-in-new-uniform/

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 20/3/2012 3:12:58 PM

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latest set pics-

http://trekmovie.com/2012/03/19/more-star-trek-sequel-set-images-simon-pegg-and-zoe-saldana-spotted-in-new-uniform/

I'm guessing some kind of combat uniform, or espionage disguises?

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 20/3/2012 7:05:26 PM

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SPOILER:

Turns out Cumberbatch's character is a genetically enhanced otter. (link)

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RE: Benedict Cumberbatch Boldly Going... - 20/3/2012 8:22:03 PM

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Maybe we'll finally get a dedicated away-party utility uniform and not a continuation of the daft Trek tradition of the ship uniforms being worn EVERYWHERE.

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