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The Rome Appreciation Thread - 13/4/2006 3:53:48 PM   
Timon


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Filming of Rome: Season 2 started on April 10!

Casting is also underway to look for an older Octavian to take over from Max Pirkis as the new season will pick up several years after the climax of the first.

For season 2, John Melfi takes over from Frank Doelger as executive producer, while Anthony Pratt has replaced Joseph Bennett as production designer. Episodes one and two will be helmed by Timothy Van Patten and Allen Coulter respectively, both of whom also worked on the first series. While new plot elements are under wraps, Jonathan Stamp, the history consultant, said that Rome will become a desperate and anarchic place due to a famine. The season will start with Caesar's funeral, have at least one big set-piece battle, and continue to feature lots of nudity.

Also, i read the Ciaran Hinds will return for the first two episodes. Flashbacks? Or is he appearing to Mark Anthony in visions?

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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 13/4/2006 3:58:31 PM   
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More? I'm very mixed on the previous series myself: I couldn't decide if it was psuedo-porn, a period soap or a realistic portrayal of Roman life. I suppose the suppliance of 18 rated material is why we watch it though.

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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 13/4/2006 4:34:05 PM   
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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 13/4/2006 5:11:11 PM   
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Good. I'm glad to hear this. Series 2 seemed to be on then off.
I'll bet we won't see it for ata least another year and a half.
I loved the first series.

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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 13/4/2006 5:24:22 PM   
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quote:

couldn't decide if it was psuedo-porn, a period soap or a realistic portrayal of Roman life. I suppose the suppliance of 18 rated material is why we watch it though.


That may be down to the edited episodes we got over here with all the politics removed and the blood/guts/sex/nudity advertised above all else.


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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 13/4/2006 7:37:16 PM   
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I really didn't think there was an overabundance of sex or nudity in Rome (I watched the US versions, not the edited down BBC broadcasts). Maybe I'm just a really liberal guy

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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 13/4/2006 8:30:41 PM   
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I would rather like some actual battle scenes, I know this show is on a budget (as large as it is) But just showing pre and post battles seems a little bit off. 

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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 20/4/2006 8:28:14 PM   
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Official press release;

HBO's epic drama series ROME has begun production on its ten-episode second season, it was announced today by Carolyn Strauss, president, HBO Entertainment. Filming of the new episodes will continue at Rome's Cinecittŕ Studios through next October, with debut set for 2007.

"This exciting series offers a spectacle unlike anything else on TV," noted Strauss. "The new episodes of ROME will go deeper into the intriguing characters and provocative storylines that made the first season a hit with critics and subscribers."

Chronicling the fall of a republic and the rise of an empire, the first season of ROME wrapped last December. TV Guide hailed it as a "feast for the eyes" and a "ripping good story," as well as a "shamelessly enjoyable historical romp," while the Washington Post described the series as "ravishing and wickedly shocking," and "a feast for the senses that includes generous portions of food for thought." In addition, ROME received two Golden Globe nominations: Best Television Series - Drama and Best Performance by an Actress in a Television Series - Drama (Polly Walker).

The new season of ROME will continue the story following the death of Gaius Julius Caesar. Returning actors include Kevin McKidd ("Kingdom of Heaven") as Lucius Vorenus, Ray Stevenson ("King Arthur") as Titus Pullo, Polly Walker ("Patriot Games") as Atia of the Julii, James Purefoy ("Vanity Fair") as Mark Antony, Tobias Menzies ("Foyle's War") as Marcus Junius Brutus, Lindsay Duncan ("Under the Tuscan Sun") as Servilia of the Junii, and Kerry Condon ("Angela's Ashes") as Octavia of the Julii.

Among the returning directors are Timothy Van Patten and Allen Coulter. New members of the creative team include John Melfi (HBO's "Sex and the City") as executive producer and Anthony Pratt (HBO's "Band of Brothers") as production designer.

ROME is a co-production of HBO and the BBC; co-creators, John Milius and William J. Macdonald and Bruno Heller; executive producers, Bruno Heller, William J. Macdonald, John Milius, Anne Thomopoulos and John Melfi; co-executive producers, Jim Dyer, Eugene Kelly and Marco Valerio Pugini; consulting producer, Michael Apted; production designer, Anthony Pratt; costume designer, April Ferry; casting, Nina Gold, Nina Gold & Associates.


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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 20/4/2006 8:47:42 PM   
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Excellent news! Can we expect an early (Spring 2007) or late (Fall, as in season one) release date?!

Nice to see most of the cast returning too

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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 20/4/2006 9:29:30 PM   
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Fantastic news although don't let the BBC near the editing suite before its shown here. Never forgive them for butchering it.

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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 21/4/2006 6:10:02 PM   
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Yay!  However, I don't see Octavian listed in that list.  That would leave a major plot hole wouldn't it?

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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 21/4/2006 6:28:00 PM   
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They're currently looking for an older British actor to play Octavia as by Season 2, he'll no longer be a boy.

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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 21/4/2006 11:01:46 PM   
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I cannot wait.  Rome was one of the best things on tv last year!

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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 22/4/2006 11:03:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Zatoichi

That may be down to the edited episodes we got over here with all the politics removed and the blood/guts/sex/nudity advertised above all else.


To be fair to the beeb, all they did was edit the first three episodes down into two. Mainly because us Brits know a bit more about Roman history than our American cousins. When I found out what had happened I downloaded the HBO versions and to be honest they were a lot slower and told me tons of stuff that most people learnt at school. Not to mention the fact that the second HBO episode ran for under 40 minutes without the ads and the beeb had them scheduled in a 50 minute slot. I do think that they could have made a slightly better job of the edit though, sometimes it was quite jarring.

I didn't think it made it as hard to follow as some people have made out and I believe and understand their reasoning behind doing it.

Anyway, bring on series two!

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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 29/6/2006 11:04:22 AM   
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I think it will be a shame if they lose the actor that played Octavian, I thought he played the role brilliantly.

If they are starting series 2 with the funeral of Julius Caesar I dont really understant how much older they want to make him.

He was after all a very young man when his political career really kicked of with the hunt for Caesar's killers

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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 1/7/2006 5:42:01 PM   
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They could skip ahead a few years. A lot of HBO shows can do that! Though it's usually a few months at most (Sopranos, SFU)...

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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 1/7/2006 10:28:12 PM   
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From what I understand HBO have to make this season becuase of contractual obligations, notice that this season has three less episodes than the first one. I imagine the reacasting of Octavian is so we can skip a few years after showing the defeat of Brutus and the rest and deal with the conflict between Antony and Octavian ending with his crowning as first emperor of Rome and therefore giving the show a complete story (something which wasnt given to Carnival). This hopefully means we can see some more Cleopatra - she made quite an impression last season, the thought of her and Antony together will make great T.V.

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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 2/7/2006 8:30:41 AM   
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I started to watch the first series but it started to get a bit boring might watch the second season but it depends when it comes on the bbc

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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 3/7/2006 11:56:11 AM   
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I can't see them skipping that far forward.  They MUST show mark Anthony's speech at Caesar's funeral.

I suppose they might show that and then miss out a few years, regardless of what they do I would like them to keep the same actor as Octavian/Augustus he was one of the best things about the first series I thought.

I look foreward to being proven wrong though.

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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 3/7/2006 3:17:27 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bigtimedwarfer

I can't see them skipping that far forward.  They MUST show mark Anthony's speech at Caesar's funeral.


The show follows a historical path, not Shakespeare's.

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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 3/7/2006 4:15:52 PM   
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Never read the play.  He is historically attributed with making a speech at the funeral before Octavian was revealled as Caesar's legal heir.  This was all part of the political manouvering centred around the hunt for the assasins which IMO should be the focus for the whole of series two.

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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 3/7/2006 4:58:12 PM   
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Sorry I thought you were referring to the famous speech as given in the play. It's like when a lot of people expected Caesar to say "Et tu, Brutus" when he was killed at the end of season 1. 

I don't think that will be at the centre of season 2 - it covers too short a period of time. I think they'll skip over that stuff pretty quick and make it about the power struglle between Antony and Octavian/Augustus.

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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 4/7/2006 1:47:22 PM   
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I think you're probably right, not because it's too short a time period, it isn't.  Rather because of the large time period the first series covered, they'll probably continue in the same manner.

Really it depends on how many series they envisage making.  The whole thing must surely end at Actium so if they're thinking of a series 3 then they'll have to stop series 2 before then.


*historical spoiler*



I'd like to see series 2 end with the defeat of Brutus.  Dont forget, just because Octavian and Mark Anthony ostensibly worked together to hunt down Caesar's killers doesn't mean they weren't rivals.

I'm looking forward to seeing Mark Anthony catching up with Cicero!

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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 4/7/2006 1:56:57 PM   
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I didn't think it made it as hard to follow as some people have made out and I believe and understand their reasoning behind doing it.



Sorry, Ruffy, I completely disagree. I have studied Rome in quite a lot of detail, especially during that period, and the bits they missed out just made a mockery of the narrative.

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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 4/7/2006 2:31:17 PM   
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The BBC obviously just edited it to make it more sexy and shocking to win over more viewers.  I remember the advertising for the show centering almost exclusively around nudity and violence.  I was pleasently supprised upon viewing it to find a political thriller.  Sadly I think the BBC's advertising campign only served to discourage many who would have stuck with the program in favour of those seeking a quick thrill, who probably lost interest after one or two episodes.

I studied for a history degree and still read quite a lot of history books.  Maybe I'm lazy but I find anything historical more interesting when I encounter facts and events that I already have some knowledge of.  Reading a history of which you have no background knowledge at all can be just painful.

Aside from anything else us Brits certainly enjoy a sense of our own intelectual superiority and i'm sure many people would have happily sat in front of their TV's bashing the Americans for needing to have such basic facts expliained to them.

A blatant case of sexing it up for tabloid readers.

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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 13/7/2006 10:45:29 AM   
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Apparantly there was a HBO presentation for the Television Critics Association on Wednesday and there it was announced there are NO plans for a third season of Rome.

Noooooooooooooooooooo!

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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 13/7/2006 12:14:19 PM   
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Gutted.  Guess that means season 2  might go right up to the conclusion of Actium. 

Then again if they sell loads of DVD's for season 1 and 2 does well that could change.

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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 9/10/2006 7:54:09 PM   
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Just found a preview for season 2 of Rome on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQyvuv65Ejk

Looks like Max Pirkis is back as Octavian after all, which is good news. Don't know when it will be shown in the UK.

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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 9/10/2006 8:00:34 PM   
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The little clip of him and Antony fighting was great - and im hoping the battle they were filming is full scale and not just a few close ups - i didnt mind it in season one but if the BBC can do it in those documentaries that are on just now I don't see why a 100 million dollar production can't do the same.

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RE: Rome: Season 2 - 9/10/2006 8:04:05 PM   
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Ooooooooh and indeed ooooooooooooooooh.

Can't wait.

Gangs of Rome eh?

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