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RE: Buffy - 9/4/2006 3:23:37 PM   
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I'm glad they kept the crossovers to a minimum, it allowed Angel to become its own show; something different from Buffy.

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RE: Buffy - 9/4/2006 6:29:21 PM   
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I LOVE the show. Sarah Michelle Gellar was amazing. Never seen any Angel episodes but ive heard they are impressive.
My favourite overall character is definately Buffy.
My favourite villain would have to be either Drusilla or Faith.
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RE: Buffy - 9/4/2006 7:31:17 PM   
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Never seen any Angel episodes but ive heard they are impressive.


you should really cheak it out, all five seasons are fantastic, some people like it better than Buffy, not myself though, Buffy is slightly better

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RE: Buffy - 9/4/2006 9:19:34 PM   
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I think im gonna pick up the box sets this week. Ebay once again

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RE: Buffy - 9/4/2006 10:01:45 PM   
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I think im gonna pick up the box sets this week. Ebay once again


sweet

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RE: Buffy - 13/4/2006 11:14:50 PM   
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people don't let it die

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RE: Buffy - 13/4/2006 11:43:50 PM   
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Joss Whedon's best...

1. Buffy
2. Angel
3. Firefly (probably would have been no 1 if it had continued)!

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RE: Buffy - 13/4/2006 11:45:24 PM   
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nah, this how I see it

1. Buffy
2. Firefly
3. Angel

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RE: Buffy - 13/4/2006 11:47:25 PM   
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Firefly is a brilliant 5 star show, but i just don't think you can compare 14 episodes and 1 film to five seasons of Angel!

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RE: Buffy - 13/4/2006 11:48:31 PM   
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well I say you can

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RE: Buffy - 13/4/2006 11:55:14 PM   
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Don't get me wrong Firefly is still genius...genius cut short unfortunately!

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RE: Buffy - 14/4/2006 12:02:22 AM   
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Firefly was phenomonal and for a first season it was so strong and established itself brilliantly, even after only a few episodes. In fact the 'first' season of Firefly was better than both the first season of Buffy and the first season of Angel. We'll never know if it would have maintained that quality however.

By that logic, Angel and Buffy were better as afer their respective shaky first seasons, they became the stuff of genius and progressed with that standard.

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RE: Buffy - 14/4/2006 12:07:28 AM   
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I think Firefly is possibly the best first season ever. Even better than the first seasons of such gold as South Park, The Shield and The X- Files!

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RE: Buffy - 14/4/2006 12:08:38 AM   
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By the way Kingalan, i love your avatar. One of the top ten on the forum!

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RE: Buffy - 14/4/2006 1:07:20 PM   
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I think Firefly is possibly the best first season ever. Even better than the first seasons of such gold as South Park, The Shield and The X- Files!


It's even better than the first season of Buffy aswell

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RE: Buffy - 14/4/2006 1:52:42 PM   
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I think Firefly is possibly the best first season ever. Even better than the first seasons of such gold as South Park, The Shield and The X- Files!


Yeah I'd agree with that. The only shows that came as close to first season greatness were Six Feet Under, The Sopranos and possibly 24.

The thing about Buffy and Angel which impresses me most (apart from the amazingly complex characters, intricate story arcs and brilliant episodes) is how rich their worlds are. When the two shows are combined, the sheer vastness of the characters; the scope of the past/present and the situations each player uniquely goes through is just mind-boggling and it just keeps on expanding right up till Not Fade Away. The thought that we will never see any more of the Buffyverse is a depressing one.

This Spike spin-off movie I keep reading about would normally make me wince but the fact that t's a Whedon product gives me absolute faith that it will blow us all away should it actually happen.

And cheers for the avatar comment. Not my doing though, a creation of the ever creative Ruffkut. It's been so long since I patrolled these boards regularly, I'm not sure if he even still exists but there you go.

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RE: Buffy - 14/4/2006 4:12:58 PM   
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<<<<<Faith

Does anybody else think that faiths blade is cool id love to get a replica.

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RE: Buffy - 14/4/2006 4:42:42 PM   
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yeah it is really cool, but a replica would cost tons

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RE: Buffy - 14/4/2006 4:48:51 PM   
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I don't like Faith, I think she's my least favourite character.

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RE: Buffy - 14/4/2006 5:42:08 PM   
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she's probably my favorite character

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RE: Buffy - 14/4/2006 5:53:59 PM   
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Joss Whedon's best...

1. Buffy
2. Angel
3. Firefly (probably would have been no 1 if it had continued)!


I think Angel was the best show by far.
It had the best actors and better storylines. I do agree that the show took a while to find it's feet but by the end of the first season it found it's place, with the addition of Wesley and Gunn to the cast and then of course the wonderful Lorne. With the addition of Fred at the end of season 2 I think the cast was complete.

As for the best first season I would agree with Firefly. I only wish the network had at least allowed Joss to complete the season so at least then he could've wrapped up all the storylines.
Season 1 Buffy was definately my least favourite, but still contained the excellent episodes Prophecy Girl, Nightmares and Angel.

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RE: Buffy - 14/4/2006 6:21:26 PM   
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Season 1 Buffy was definately my least favourite, but still contained the excellent episodes Prophecy Girl, Nightmares and Angel.


I love the puppet episode and the season finale from Buffy S1, but you're right Buffy definitly had the weakest first season

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RE: Buffy - 15/4/2006 11:26:50 AM   
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Joss Whedon's best...

1. Buffy
2. Angel
3. Firefly (probably would have been no 1 if it had continued)!


I think Angel was the best show by far.
It had the best actors and better storylines. I do agree that the show took a while to find it's feet but by the end of the first season it found it's place, with the addition of Wesley and Gunn to the cast and then of course the wonderful Lorne. With the addition of Fred at the end of season 2 I think the cast was complete.

As for the best first season I would agree with Firefly. I only wish the network had at least allowed Joss to complete the season so at least then he could've wrapped up all the storylines.
Season 1 Buffy was definately my least favourite, but still contained the excellent episodes Prophecy Girl, Nightmares and Angel.



Not to forgot The Pack; the episode whch convinced me to keep watching...

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RE: Buffy - 15/4/2006 6:15:53 PM   
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Buffy was amazing, as was Angel, but I didn't so much care for the final season of Angel! It was good and I thought it set up where the show could go from here very well, but as it's own season, it just did not stand up to what had gone before it.

Buffy and The X-Files were the two shows which changed my view of TV, before I watched them I used to only even watch films and be a snob about TV, but they showed me the way :)

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RE: Buffy - 15/4/2006 6:26:53 PM   
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I love Angel the best. Sorry, not a Firefly watcher, thougth I did see Serenity.

I'm just watching S3 Angel again. Wesley's about to make a stupid mistake... Man, nothing ever goes right for the people in Angel. They totally copped out on the series finale of Buffy. She didn't even die to save the world. Anya was the only casualty. But Angel? Doyle, Cordelia (the fools!), Wes, Fred, and well, maybe the rest of the gang got totaled! S5 was just so bad. I don't know if it was going somewhere with the W&H stuff that we didn't get see due to it's cancellation but I just didn't buy it from day one. Working for the big law firm that had all the resources they'd ever need didn't work for the Gang. And killing Cordy was bullshit. Oh well.

Angel's still the best. Holtz was the baddest baddie of them all.

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RE: Buffy - 15/4/2006 7:30:43 PM   
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holtz was great,i loved (spl?) sazchan he was funny some great quotes from him.i love series 3 i think 3 and 1 are my fav seasons.

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RE: Buffy - 15/4/2006 8:58:06 PM   
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I don't like Faith, I think she's my least favourite character.

What shes an excelent character shes such a good bad guy.

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RE: Buffy - 15/4/2006 10:21:54 PM   
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Faith was great, better than that whiney cow Buffy. I really couldn't stand her by the end.

Holtz knew how to get revenge boy. He was bad. I think it's great that the best bad guy the had on Angel was a human. Shazaan is a joker. S3 through to about 2/3 of S4 are my fav. When Jasmine turned up I wasn't so happy. I was also pissed that they kinda killed off Cordy at the end of S3.

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RE: Buffy - 16/4/2006 8:57:41 PM   
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I havent seen much of S2 & S3 of Angel, I thought S1,S4 & S5 were great, S5 not so much,
question, did Gunn join the gang in S2?

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RE: Buffy - 16/4/2006 9:02:19 PM   
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Gunn was in it from S1. He only appeared in a couple of episodes but he became a regular in season 2.

You know what? Even season 2 was great! Lindsey, Darla... good times!

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