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PG-13 remakes or R-rated films? - 25/1/2014 2:05:25 PM   
Padraic Coffey

 

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Most would agree, cinema - particularly genres like horror, science-fiction and action - has been churning out far too many remakes in recent years.

To me, one of the most annoying aspects of this is when films that were previously 18-certificate/R-rated are remade as neutered PG-13 fare.

Take, for instance

Total Recall (2012)
The Wicker Man (2006)
Robocop (2014)

Can anyone think of any other examples?
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RE: PG-13 remakes or R-rated films? - 25/1/2014 3:06:20 PM   
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Lower ratings to increase ticket sales is the way things are going, however I don't think that it is closely linked with the quality of the film itself. They could be PG13 and actually good, if they weren't terrible hack jobs. For example the Carrie remake was rated R.

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RE: PG-13 remakes or R-rated films? - 25/1/2014 9:17:30 PM   
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You cheating on us with another forum, Padraic? http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=48f3b2f27e8a0e7d9a02270e821786f2&t=2057133221

Prom Night and The Stepfather which were both shit but Fright Night got an R rated remake which was pretty good but that was more to do with the film-making than the rating.

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RE: PG-13 remakes or R-rated films? - 25/1/2014 11:06:55 PM   
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Lower ratings to increase ticket sales is the way things are going, however I don't think that it is closely linked with the quality of the film itself. They could be PG13 and actually good, if they weren't terrible hack jobs. For example the Carrie remake was rated R.


Whilst I agree with your point, part of me will always feel that a Robocop film requires Verhoevian levels of violence.

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RE: PG-13 remakes or R-rated films? - 25/1/2014 11:07:53 PM   
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But then it would just be violent, not good

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RE: PG-13 remakes or R-rated films? - 9/2/2014 10:27:00 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Darth Marenghi


quote:

ORIGINAL: rich

Lower ratings to increase ticket sales is the way things are going, however I don't think that it is closely linked with the quality of the film itself. They could be PG13 and actually good, if they weren't terrible hack jobs. For example the Carrie remake was rated R.


Whilst I agree with your point, part of me will always feel that a Robocop film requires Verhoevian levels of violence.


Watered down remakes is the most irritating trend in Hollywood right now.

What's wrong with over the top, gratuitous violence, sex and drug taking?

I know that films have to 'appeal to the widest range of person to maximise takings.....' yawn, but they're just all so tedious. Total Recall was just a below average pile of manure clearly designed by several people to cash in on the name. Sometimes I want to be shocked by a film by a director pushing the boundaries, like in Robocop and in particular the demise of Emil. There's nothing like that shocked laugh in a cinema when everybody thinks 'what the actual f*ck did the director just do!' Usually that takes an 18 rated movie to acheive.

I think the answer is for the studio to lower budgets, give a visionary director full creative control and to just say 'go for it son, show us what you can do while we f*ck of and bean count'.


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RE: PG-13 remakes or R-rated films? - 12/2/2014 7:48:08 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jonezy123


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ORIGINAL: Darth Marenghi


quote:

ORIGINAL: rich

Lower ratings to increase ticket sales is the way things are going, however I don't think that it is closely linked with the quality of the film itself. They could be PG13 and actually good, if they weren't terrible hack jobs. For example the Carrie remake was rated R.


Whilst I agree with your point, part of me will always feel that a Robocop film requires Verhoevian levels of violence.


Watered down remakes is the most irritating trend in Hollywood right now.

What's wrong with over the top, gratuitous violence, sex and drug taking?

I know that films have to 'appeal to the widest range of person to maximise takings.....' yawn, but they're just all so tedious. Total Recall was just a below average pile of manure clearly designed by several people to cash in on the name. Sometimes I want to be shocked by a film by a director pushing the boundaries, like in Robocop and in particular the demise of Emil. There's nothing like that shocked laugh in a cinema when everybody thinks 'what the actual f*ck did the director just do!' Usually that takes an 18 rated movie to acheive.

I think the answer is for the studio to lower budgets, give a visionary director full creative control and to just say 'go for it son, show us what you can do while we f*ck of and bean count'.




Pretty much agree with everything here.Its why Dredd was such a breath of fresh air so to speak with it being a sci fi action film with hard R levels of Verhoeven style violence.And crucially, it was actually pretty fucking great too.

Unfortunately, it was also a box office failure so it looks like we are going to continue to be fed PG-13 action films for the forseeable future.

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RE: PG-13 remakes or R-rated films? - 6/3/2014 10:03:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: rich
But then it would just be violent, not good


Yeah, Verhoeven uses violence to make his stories more relevant. Verhoeven needed an R rating to make movies the way he did. The worlds of his movies are brutal but that makes them feel more real, unlike a lot of action movies that just use violence to make them exciting. A lot of directors couldn't pull that off.

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