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Why does Cyclops get such a raw deal in X-Men films? - 29/10/2013 2:36:37 PM   
The Hooded Man


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It's always baffled me seeing he's the leader of the X-Men and after Wolverine is easily the most iconic X-Men character. Almost like leaving Captain America out of The Avengers.

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RE: Why does Cyclops get such a raw deal in X-Men films? - 29/10/2013 3:34:09 PM   
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I think they got the casting wrong for one thing. James Mardsen is a good actor but he's not an action hero, and he didn't have a very imposing presence. The writing was also a problem, he was just the boring leader.

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RE: Why does Cyclops get such a raw deal in X-Men films? - 29/10/2013 3:41:04 PM   
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I think they got the casting wrong for one thing. James Mardsen is a good actor but he's not an action hero, and he didn't have a very imposing presence. The writing was also a problem, he was just the boring leader.


Pretty much nails it, I thought I didn't like Marsden as an actor because of him playing Cyclops for a while. Wasn't until I saw him in 30 Rock and thought he was great. And it was like the writers didn't know what to do with the character. They made him so two dimensional.

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RE: Why does Cyclops get such a raw deal in X-Men films? - 29/10/2013 4:09:48 PM   
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To be honest, I always found Cyclops to be pretty boring and two-dimensional in the comics as well. He's always the one trying to do the right thing, to the point where he seems to be overly-strict about rules, etc. He's kind of like Jack in Lost in that he thinks "I'm the leader, so it's my way or the highway", and that's about it.

That said, I do think he was underused in X2 - which I think is otherwise an excellent movie - and that was before Marsden's decision to jump ship to Superman with Singer caused them to write him out in such a crappy manner. I thought he was pretty much perfect in the original, though.

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RE: Why does Cyclops get such a raw deal in X-Men films? - 29/10/2013 4:13:14 PM   
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Aren't all comic book characters generally two dimensional?

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RE: Why does Cyclops get such a raw deal in X-Men films? - 29/10/2013 4:17:22 PM   
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ORIGINAL: OPEN YOUR EYES

Aren't all comic book characters generally two dimensional?



True. We need more pop-up comics!

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RE: Why does Cyclops get such a raw deal in X-Men films? - 29/10/2013 4:24:17 PM   
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To be honest, I always found Cyclops to be pretty boring and two-dimensional in the comics as well. He's always the one trying to do the right thing, to the point where he seems to be overly-strict about rules, etc. He's kind of like Jack in Lost in that he thinks "I'm the leader, so it's my way or the highway", and that's about it.


I think that depends entirely on who writes him. People like Grant Morrison and Warren Ellis made him much more interesting.


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RE: Why does Cyclops get such a raw deal in X-Men films? - 30/10/2013 8:13:12 PM   
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ORIGINAL: The Hooded Man

It's always baffled me seeing he's the leader of the X-Men and after Wolverine is easily the most iconic X-Men character. Almost like leaving Captain America out of The Avengers.


Easy answer to this one..

Hugh Jackman is a big star.James Marsden isnt.

Hence why the X films are mostly Jackman led.

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RE: Why does Cyclops get such a raw deal in X-Men films? - 30/10/2013 8:53:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: AxlReznor

To be honest, I always found Cyclops to be pretty boring and two-dimensional in the comics as well. He's always the one trying to do the right thing, to the point where he seems to be overly-strict about rules, etc. He's kind of like Jack in Lost in that he thinks "I'm the leader, so it's my way or the highway", and that's about it.



When Lost first came out I thought the Sawyer and Jack relationship was the Cuse/Lindelof version of Wolverine and Cyclops.

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RE: Why does Cyclops get such a raw deal in X-Men films? - 30/10/2013 9:03:14 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Cool Breeze


quote:

ORIGINAL: The Hooded Man

It's always baffled me seeing he's the leader of the X-Men and after Wolverine is easily the most iconic X-Men character. Almost like leaving Captain America out of The Avengers.


Easy answer to this one..

Hugh Jackman is a big star.James Marsden isnt.


Hence why the X films are mostly Jackman led.


Now, yes. Jackman was relatively unknown when he was cast, it was Wolverine that made him a big star. Mardsen was also relatively unknown however X-Men didn't do him any favours at all

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RE: Why does Cyclops get such a raw deal in X-Men films? - 30/10/2013 9:43:35 PM   
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So we are comparing a boring character who just shoot beams from his eyes to a mucsle bound anti hero with fast self regeneration healing abilities, metal skeleton and a foot long metal claws?

Kinda remind of this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oSfpEG3SFc8

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RE: Why does Cyclops get such a raw deal in X-Men films? - 4/11/2013 2:42:48 PM   
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Isn't the real reason that Mardsen had already signed on to so Superman Returns for Singer?

It was a scheduling conflict and so they wrote him out of X3 early on.

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