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Filth - 22/9/2013 8:14:39 PM   
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RE: Not impressed - 30/9/2013 7:01:51 AM   


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A month ago? Private screening for you was it? Lasted 30 min? And that qualifies you to make a judgement on a movie?
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RE: Not impressed - 30/9/2013 1:13:55 PM   

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Had the "pleasure" of seeing this about a month a go... I only lasted 30 minutes before I walked out bored and unimpressed. The directing is bad and James McAvoy just doesn't do anything that brings you into the film wanting to watch more. I can see why Empire gave this 4 stars (it is a British film). The book is great. The film, however, is filth that deserves to be flushed down the pan.

I honestly can't remember the last time I saw a post from you that was impressed with anything but even you have to concede giving something half an hour doesn't really entitle you too much of an opinion? Its bit like reading the first two chapters of a 20 chapter book before putting it down and deciding that its the worst book written?!


I just wish stuff like, I don't know, the slow & systemic CRATERING of this country could inspire the same call-to-arms as Batman casting
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RE: Filth - 3/10/2013 4:06:54 AM   


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It's quite different from the book in some respects, though I don't think they could do anything about that, as there are elements in the book that wouldn't work in a film.

Never the less, it's a great film, excellent performance from McAvoy.
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RE: Filth - 3/10/2013 7:51:22 AM  1 votes
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Piece of pish. I'm really not much of a fan of Welsh and his one note writing; his approach worked for a group of heroin addicts, but the constant banging of the same drum over his following novels, short stories & television dramas became increasingly tiresome with each effort. Trainspotting was revolutionary in dismantling Scottish discourse, yet in Filth (especially in this adaptation) his observations have disintegrated into lazy stereotypes. His obsession with portraying the outrageous have also led to a huge problem with the tone, none more evident than this. The balancing act between the comedic and the serious is awkward, with the transition between the two handled clumsily by Baird. It has aspirations of being a film about mental illness, addiction & personal loss, but it plays the drama with such broad strokes it's extremely difficult to be convinced by any of the proceedings.

Credit to Mcavoy though for giving it his all. His performance deserves a better film, rather than this shallow rip-off of Bad Lieutenant (and I laughed more during the Abel Ferrara version).




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RE: Not impressed - 3/10/2013 9:35:38 PM   


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No. A press screening, and yeah. I didn't like it so gives me ample qualification to rate this movie as pish. :)

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RE: Filth - 3/10/2013 9:41:31 PM   


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No... I can't concede it because a- just don't like James McAvoy as an actor and b- at just over a quarter into the film and am still bored it gives me every right to have an opinion.
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RE: Filth - 4/10/2013 11:33:03 PM   


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Since its release seventeen years ago, Danny Boyle’s brilliant adaptation of Irvine Welsh’s Trainspotting, there have been other films that attempted at adapting other works by the Scottish novelist. In the case of his 1998 novel Filth which was considered unfilmable, it took over a decade to make it into the big screen as writer/director Jon S. Baird shows the heightened grittiness of Edinburgh as oppose to the city’s upbeat environment in Sunshine On Leith.

Following the murder of a young Japanese student, the corrupt, cocaine-snorting, hard-drinking Edinburgh cop Bruce Robertson (James McAvoy) is angling for a promotion to detective inspector, and is prepared to secure it by any means necessary. Suffering from personal problems and continues his self-destructive lifestyle, his mind begins to wonder between reality and fantasy.

In its very first frames, I had a clear idea of what to expect in this film, not on the basis of reading the source material but an idea of what the tone is, which is at best divisive. On the one hand, one can admire its “holds no bar” black comedic tone as even the very title Filth is a blueprint in nearly every scene, whether it features the constant boozing, the over-snorting of cocaine or the most inappropriate use of a printer. While a lot of these scenes are not for the squeamish, they do bring out a lot of laughs.

On the downside, the film can get relentless and most of all messy as while the protagonist Bruce Robertson is in every single scene, the story pulls in various different directions from the (no pun intended) filthy humour to the more dark and twisted moments delving into Bruce’s psyche. With Stanley Kubrick’s influence clearly evident in Baird’s direction – not least from the appearance of a 2001: A Space Odyssey poster – it becomes an Achilles’ heel as the fantasy sequences are a feeble attempt at being outrageous.

If there is anything entirely positive to say about Filth, is that James McAvoy presents an extraordinary performance as this obnoxious detective sergeant who doesn’t have our sympathy but his journey into a complete mental breakdown gives the film a compelling edge, given its other edges. Despite the difficulty of wrestling with numerous plot points throughout the piece, the supporting cast get their moment to shine, particularly Eddie Marsan as Bruce’s clean-shaven accountant and Shirley Henderson as the accountant’s sex-desperate wife.

As both a black comedy and a dark psychological drama that features an extraordinary performance by James McAvoy, it achieves and suffers with a tone that’s crazy but relentless, funny but messy.

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RE: Intoxicating Fun!!!! - 12/10/2013 10:34:49 PM   
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A thoroughly tedious, one-note and mostly unfunny [unless you find things like sex automatically funny] first half gives way to a somewhat better second half that does compel, though Ferrera and Kietel did it all much better over two decades ago. MacAvoy's startling performance stands out, but deserves a better film.



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RE: Another failed attempt at recreating Trainspotting - 13/10/2013 12:50:22 PM   


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Why do directors who take on Irvine Welsh material feel they have to make Trainspotting 2, and then fail so horribly. This was truly painful to watch, but very easy to analyse. It's Trainspotting without the wit, script, visual flair and taste (yes, that's right, taste). Just a compilation of disgusting sketches which nearly made me vomit into my popcorn. How McAvoy, Marsan and Broadbent found themselves in this odious movie is beyond me. But like one of McAvoy's character's "morning afters", I bet they are looking in the mirror and regretting every second of it.

Yes, I'm sure they'll all sack their agents when word filters through that someone off the Empire forum thought their movie was odious.

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RE: Another failed attempt at recreating Trainspotting - 15/10/2013 4:01:13 PM   


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Very funny, obviously its gives you pleasure to come around and rubbish other reviews on this forum. Hope you had a nice time.

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Does what it says on the filthy, filthy tin. - 16/10/2013 1:12:00 AM   

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If you enjoyed the more hallucinogenic aspects of Trainspotting, you'll get a lot out of Filth. Welsh proves once again that you can be flexible with your linear narrative if you throw enough messed up situations at the reader/viewer and a few crowning reveal shots. Given the scope of the project, Filth is nothing short of magnificent.


More reviews and rambling like that ^^^ at: >>> <<<

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RE: Another failed attempt at recreating Trainspotting - 16/10/2013 11:44:20 AM   


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Very funny, obviously its gives you pleasure to come around and rubbish other reviews on this forum. Hope you had a nice time.

On the contrary - I'd say the Reviews section easily gives me the least pleasure of anywhere on this forum.
I was disagreeing with your assertion that just because you didn't like the film the cast must regret being in it.

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