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The best career deaths ever..... - 20/9/2013 8:39:34 PM   
Jonezy123

 

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Hi all, I'm a noob to the site. I've been enjoying going through all the threads, good to find fellow film fans with alternative opinions on films.

In protest to the upcoming, sure to be awful Robocop remake I bought the original trilogy the other day on blu ray so I could enjoy the original on the day of release of the new one. But in the meantime I decided to watch Robocop 3 to see of it is as bad as I remember the last time i watched it on VHS. It was. It must be one of the worst films ever.

So I read up on the director Fred Dekker to see what he was all about. It turns out after a couple of great films including 'Monster Squad' and 'Night of the Creeps' in the 80's Robocop 3 killed his career dead. He literally never directed again and has barely worked in twenty years.

It got me thinking; who else had their careers killed by directing something awful or acting in something bad, or through controversy? Who springs to mind for you?
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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 20/9/2013 9:00:38 PM   
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Welcome to the forum!

Kerry Conran is a prime example. Directed (the admittedly quite fun and good) Sky Captain And The World Of Tomorrow then never did anything except two unknown short films ever again!

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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 21/9/2013 2:37:06 AM   
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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 21/9/2013 8:45:32 AM   
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The Love Guru pretty much finished Mike Myers (although I think his abysmal attitude to others and obnoxious personality also played a part).

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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 21/9/2013 12:42:44 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Jonezy123

Hi all, I'm a noob to the site. I've been enjoying going through all the threads, good to find fellow film fans with alternative opinions on films.

In protest to the upcoming, sure to be awful Robocop remake I bought the original trilogy the other day on blu ray so I could enjoy the original on the day of release of the new one. But in the meantime I decided to watch Robocop 3 to see of it is as bad as I remember the last time i watched it on VHS. It was. It must be one of the worst films ever.

So I read up on the director Fred Dekker to see what he was all about. It turns out after a couple of great films including 'Monster Squad' and 'Night of the Creeps' in the 80's Robocop 3 killed his career dead. He literally never directed again and has barely worked in twenty years.

It got me thinking; who else had their careers killed by directing something awful or acting in something bad, or through controversy? Who springs to mind for you?


Good post, I agree completely with suggesting Dekker, talk about crash landing, depressing also, considering that it's due to the studio chopping Robocop 3 to pieces, rendering it a childish, amateurish failure.

As for career deaths..I gotta say it's funny to me to think back about my first posts on this forum, some of which involved my opinion that M. Night Shyamalan was a mediocre director at best, and I got a helluva lot of flack for it, but, satisfyingly, his career continues to plummet, delivering one gigantic mess after another.

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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 21/9/2013 6:39:49 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kazuya


quote:

ORIGINAL: Jonezy123

Hi all, I'm a noob to the site. I've been enjoying going through all the threads, good to find fellow film fans with alternative opinions on films.

In protest to the upcoming, sure to be awful Robocop remake I bought the original trilogy the other day on blu ray so I could enjoy the original on the day of release of the new one. But in the meantime I decided to watch Robocop 3 to see of it is as bad as I remember the last time i watched it on VHS. It was. It must be one of the worst films ever.

So I read up on the director Fred Dekker to see what he was all about. It turns out after a couple of great films including 'Monster Squad' and 'Night of the Creeps' in the 80's Robocop 3 killed his career dead. He literally never directed again and has barely worked in twenty years.

It got me thinking; who else had their careers killed by directing something awful or acting in something bad, or through controversy? Who springs to mind for you?


Good post, I agree completely with suggesting Dekker, talk about crash landing, depressing also, considering that it's due to the studio chopping Robocop 3 to pieces, rendering it a childish, amateurish failure.

As for career deaths..I gotta say it's funny to me to think back about my first posts on this forum, some of which involved my opinion that M. Night Shyamalan was a mediocre director at best, and I got a helluva lot of flack for it, but, satisfyingly, his career continues to plummet, delivering one gigantic mess after another.


LOL i'm sure he will be pleased to hear his downward spiraling career is bearing out your earlier arguments!

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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 21/9/2013 6:56:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: snaze1


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kazuya


quote:

ORIGINAL: Jonezy123

Hi all, I'm a noob to the site. I've been enjoying going through all the threads, good to find fellow film fans with alternative opinions on films.

In protest to the upcoming, sure to be awful Robocop remake I bought the original trilogy the other day on blu ray so I could enjoy the original on the day of release of the new one. But in the meantime I decided to watch Robocop 3 to see of it is as bad as I remember the last time i watched it on VHS. It was. It must be one of the worst films ever.

So I read up on the director Fred Dekker to see what he was all about. It turns out after a couple of great films including 'Monster Squad' and 'Night of the Creeps' in the 80's Robocop 3 killed his career dead. He literally never directed again and has barely worked in twenty years.

It got me thinking; who else had their careers killed by directing something awful or acting in something bad, or through controversy? Who springs to mind for you?


Good post, I agree completely with suggesting Dekker, talk about crash landing, depressing also, considering that it's due to the studio chopping Robocop 3 to pieces, rendering it a childish, amateurish failure.

As for career deaths..I gotta say it's funny to me to think back about my first posts on this forum, some of which involved my opinion that M. Night Shyamalan was a mediocre director at best, and I got a helluva lot of flack for it, but, satisfyingly, his career continues to plummet, delivering one gigantic mess after another.


LOL i'm sure he will be pleased to hear his downward spiraling career is bearing out your earlier arguments!





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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 21/9/2013 6:58:58 PM   
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So I read up on the director Fred Dekker to see what he was all about. It turns out after a couple of great films including 'Monster Squad' and 'Night of the Creeps' in the 80's Robocop 3 killed his career dead. He literally never directed again and has barely worked in twenty years.


Poor Fred Dekker. Night of the Creeps is awesome.



(as is The Monster Squad but I wanted to use that gif)




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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 21/9/2013 7:03:19 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Kazuya


quote:

ORIGINAL: snaze1


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kazuya


quote:

ORIGINAL: Jonezy123

Hi all, I'm a noob to the site. I've been enjoying going through all the threads, good to find fellow film fans with alternative opinions on films.

In protest to the upcoming, sure to be awful Robocop remake I bought the original trilogy the other day on blu ray so I could enjoy the original on the day of release of the new one. But in the meantime I decided to watch Robocop 3 to see of it is as bad as I remember the last time i watched it on VHS. It was. It must be one of the worst films ever.

So I read up on the director Fred Dekker to see what he was all about. It turns out after a couple of great films including 'Monster Squad' and 'Night of the Creeps' in the 80's Robocop 3 killed his career dead. He literally never directed again and has barely worked in twenty years.

It got me thinking; who else had their careers killed by directing something awful or acting in something bad, or through controversy? Who springs to mind for you?


Good post, I agree completely with suggesting Dekker, talk about crash landing, depressing also, considering that it's due to the studio chopping Robocop 3 to pieces, rendering it a childish, amateurish failure.

As for career deaths..I gotta say it's funny to me to think back about my first posts on this forum, some of which involved my opinion that M. Night Shyamalan was a mediocre director at best, and I got a helluva lot of flack for it, but, satisfyingly, his career continues to plummet, delivering one gigantic mess after another.


LOL i'm sure he will be pleased to hear his downward spiraling career is bearing out your earlier arguments!





Careful, he might make a film out of that.

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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 21/9/2013 7:16:01 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Hood_Man


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kazuya


quote:

ORIGINAL: snaze1


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kazuya


quote:

ORIGINAL: Jonezy123

Hi all, I'm a noob to the site. I've been enjoying going through all the threads, good to find fellow film fans with alternative opinions on films.

In protest to the upcoming, sure to be awful Robocop remake I bought the original trilogy the other day on blu ray so I could enjoy the original on the day of release of the new one. But in the meantime I decided to watch Robocop 3 to see of it is as bad as I remember the last time i watched it on VHS. It was. It must be one of the worst films ever.

So I read up on the director Fred Dekker to see what he was all about. It turns out after a couple of great films including 'Monster Squad' and 'Night of the Creeps' in the 80's Robocop 3 killed his career dead. He literally never directed again and has barely worked in twenty years.

It got me thinking; who else had their careers killed by directing something awful or acting in something bad, or through controversy? Who springs to mind for you?


Good post, I agree completely with suggesting Dekker, talk about crash landing, depressing also, considering that it's due to the studio chopping Robocop 3 to pieces, rendering it a childish, amateurish failure.

As for career deaths..I gotta say it's funny to me to think back about my first posts on this forum, some of which involved my opinion that M. Night Shyamalan was a mediocre director at best, and I got a helluva lot of flack for it, but, satisfyingly, his career continues to plummet, delivering one gigantic mess after another.


LOL i'm sure he will be pleased to hear his downward spiraling career is bearing out your earlier arguments!





Careful, he might make a film out of that.


I'd pay to see it. Probably.

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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 21/9/2013 8:18:41 PM   
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Kerry Conran is an interesting one. How did he ever get the opportunity to direct such a big film with a great cast? I have to say I like the film, it's unique and original. But I can see why it failed.

Wesley snipes started out in B movies, and after a blip doing the Blade films and a couple of others he's reverted back to low budget straight to DVD rubbish. Not sure he counts as he gets plenty of work. I wonder if Expendables 3 will relaunch him?

Who else fell off the face of the Earth? Meg Ryan seems to have disappeared since her dodgy plastic surgery (why Meg, why?).

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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 24/9/2013 9:55:15 AM   
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Kerry Conran is an interesting one. How did he ever get the opportunity to direct such a big film with a great cast?


The same goes for Marco Brambilla.

He directed Demolition Man and then went on to do video art instead.

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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 24/9/2013 10:09:36 AM   
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MIchael Davis.

He directed a couple of Rom Coms in the early 2000's, and then managed to pop out the semi cult Monster Man before going a little quiet. However, in around 2005/6 there was a whole lot of buzz around him again, and I remember sites like Aint It Cool News and Dark Horizons getting reallly excited by him. Why? Well, the promo reel to Shoot Em Up landed and promised some crazy action. The script was getting really good online buzz and people were talking it up as a genre defining piece of action cinema. It landed a good cast (Owen, Giamatti, Belucci) and looked to be a promising film. However, when it landed it 2007 it was lost, noone went to see it and the crazy action scenes were no where near as fun as what was put on paper or imagined in the minds fo dozens of online critics and commentators. It wasnt a hit and Davis hasn't directed since, to my knowledge.

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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 25/9/2013 10:32:10 AM   
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the director of 'heathers' never recovered from doing 'hudson hawk'.

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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 25/9/2013 10:48:03 AM   
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the director of 'heathers' never recovered from doing 'hudson hawk'.


Nah, Michael Lehmen still has a healthy enough career in, although it's geared these days towards TV.

Hudson Hawk didn't even end his film director career. He went on to direct Airheads and 40 Days/40 Nights, which I think were moderate low budget films, in some circles Airheads is considered a bit of a cult hit. The Truth About Cats and Dogs got some critical appreciation if I remember, and he has since been involved in some great TV Shows, directing episodes of Dexter, Big Love, Californication, American Horror Story and True Blood. Someone may correct me if I am wrong, but I think he had a hand in a few episodes of The West Wing too? So, while he may not be setting the big screen alight, he certainly hasn't had a dead career, and he certainly got film work following Hudson Hawk, albeit smaller budget and with less publicity.

He certainly doesnt belong in this thread

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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 25/9/2013 12:53:17 PM   
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quote:

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MIchael Davis.

He directed a couple of Rom Coms in the early 2000's, and then managed to pop out the semi cult Monster Man before going a little quiet. However, in around 2005/6 there was a whole lot of buzz around him again, and I remember sites like Aint It Cool News and Dark Horizons getting reallly excited by him. Why? Well, the promo reel to Shoot Em Up landed and promised some crazy action. The script was getting really good online buzz and people were talking it up as a genre defining piece of action cinema. It landed a good cast (Owen, Giamatti, Belucci) and looked to be a promising film. However, when it landed it 2007 it was lost, noone went to see it and the crazy action scenes were no where near as fun as what was put on paper or imagined in the minds fo dozens of online critics and commentators. It wasnt a hit and Davis hasn't directed since, to my knowledge.


I actually really enjoyed Shoot 'Em Up

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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 25/9/2013 2:34:42 PM   
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quote:

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the director of 'heathers' never recovered from doing 'hudson hawk'.


Nah, Michael Lehmen still has a healthy enough career in, although it's geared these days towards TV.

Hudson Hawk didn't even end his film director career. He went on to direct Airheads and 40 Days/40 Nights, which I think were moderate low budget films, in some circles Airheads is considered a bit of a cult hit. The Truth About Cats and Dogs got some critical appreciation if I remember, and he has since been involved in some great TV Shows, directing episodes of Dexter, Big Love, Californication, American Horror Story and True Blood. Someone may correct me if I am wrong, but I think he had a hand in a few episodes of The West Wing too? So, while he may not be setting the big screen alight, he certainly hasn't had a dead career, and he certainly got film work following Hudson Hawk, albeit smaller budget and with less publicity.

He certainly doesnt belong in this thread



you could say the same for john 'last seduction' dahl too i suppose.

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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 25/9/2013 4:55:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: spark1


quote:

ORIGINAL: porntrooper


quote:

ORIGINAL: spark1

the director of 'heathers' never recovered from doing 'hudson hawk'.


Nah, Michael Lehmen still has a healthy enough career in, although it's geared these days towards TV.

Hudson Hawk didn't even end his film director career. He went on to direct Airheads and 40 Days/40 Nights, which I think were moderate low budget films, in some circles Airheads is considered a bit of a cult hit. The Truth About Cats and Dogs got some critical appreciation if I remember, and he has since been involved in some great TV Shows, directing episodes of Dexter, Big Love, Californication, American Horror Story and True Blood. Someone may correct me if I am wrong, but I think he had a hand in a few episodes of The West Wing too? So, while he may not be setting the big screen alight, he certainly hasn't had a dead career, and he certainly got film work following Hudson Hawk, albeit smaller budget and with less publicity.

He certainly doesnt belong in this thread



you could say the same for john 'last seduction' dahl too i suppose.


You probably could, I wouldn't consider that John Dahl has had any kind of career 'death'. Solid work in TV since leaving movies behind, even after Last Seduction he made some decent films, including a guilty pleasure of mine, Joy Ride. So yea, neither Dahl or Lehman have had what I would consider career 'deaths'.

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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 26/9/2013 10:27:15 AM   
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is tv saving a lot of those directors from 'career death'?

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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 26/9/2013 1:40:55 PM   
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Surprised we've got this far and no-one's mentioned Stephen 'League of Extraordinary Gentlemen' Norrington? Got the gig off the back of 'Blade'. Never directed a film again.

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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 26/9/2013 2:03:47 PM   
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alot of film directors seem to end up on tv after a big flop (or couple of flops)

-guy that directed The Avengers (1998) never directed another movie but has since done alot of tv

-Danny Cannon - looks like Judge Dredd killed his early movie career. think he oversaw CSI after

-Jeannot Szwarc - started out doing lots of TV (kojak, Columbo etc), then films (Jaws 2, Somewhere in Time, Supergirl, Santa Claus) then back to tv (including Heroes and Smallville)

-Riker from Star Trek - started out directing TNG, then got his big break with Star Trek First Contact but stumbled with Insurrection then Thunderbirds killed his movie career then back to tv (i read somewhere an interview where he said he was still in 'movie jail' for TB). post FC i remember he was rumoured as a possible director for the Total Recall sequel (when Arnie was wanting to do it) and Superman (after Burtons fell through)

-Nicolas Meyer - youd think after having written/directed Star Trek II (the best ST film) and Trek VI (one of the best) hed be a shoo in for doing other big SF films but hasnt directed since Trek VI (think they tried to get him to direct one of the TNG films but he wasnt interested. you would think hed be the obvious choice for the next Trek movie now JJA cant do it but i bet he dosnt even get considered - even as a writer)

Stephen Norrington is an interesting case - alot of people credit Bryan Singer with rejuvenating the superhero/comic book genre with XMen in 2000 but Norrrington was there with Blade in 98 (imo the best of the trilogy) - which also probably inspired The Matrix the next year.
yet after LXG in 2003 he never directed again (apparently it was such a horrific experiance he vowed never to direct again)


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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 26/9/2013 3:14:58 PM   
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Just thought of another one - Richard Stanley, post-Island of Dr Moreau. He's directed some stuff since but to all intents and purposes the high-profile career that seemed his for the taking after the reception Hardware got was snuffed out.

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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 28/9/2013 12:44:39 PM   
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quote:

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Kerry Conran is an interesting one. How did he ever get the opportunity to direct such a big film with a great cast?


The same goes for Marco Brambilla.

He directed Demolition Man and then went on to do video art instead.



and a movie for alica silverstone post 'clueless'..

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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 28/9/2013 11:24:15 PM   
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Just thought of another one - Richard Stanley, post-Island of Dr Moreau. He's directed some stuff since but to all intents and purposes the high-profile career that seemed his for the taking after the reception Hardware got was snuffed out.


Agreed.  His second film, Dust Devil was a highly underrated movie.

The last I heard of him, he did an ultra-low budget film for Marillion.  And that was about 20 years ago... and he didn't go onto any lucrative TV work. 

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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 29/9/2013 10:09:13 AM   
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Poor old Tobe Hooper. Treated like shit on Poltergeist (pretty much by Spielberg's own admission) and locked out of post-production. Hasn't really done anything of any considerable note since.

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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 29/9/2013 10:37:36 AM   
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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 29/9/2013 12:26:41 PM   
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Poor old Tobe Hooper. Treated like shit on Poltergeist (pretty much by Spielberg's own admission) and locked out of post-production. Hasn't really done anything of any considerable note since.


You can argue that outside TCM, he never really was that great or good though, or consistently successful before, I mean dear God Crocodile. Though a lot of the old horrormasters seem to have lost it recently. Romero and Argento seem to be somehow becoming increasingly awful, Carpenter seems to have disappeared almost completely after Ghost of Mars (since almost nobody saw The Ward), Bava and Fulci are dead and that's quite a problem if you intend to follow a film career.


Also, Martin Brest, from Midnight Run to Gigli. That's tragic.



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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 29/9/2013 1:00:58 PM   
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Yeah, Tobe Hooper's a dreadful filmmaker. Whatever happened during the production of Poltergeist, there's no excuse for tripe like Lifeforce, Invaders From Mars, Spontaneous Combustion, Night Terrors, The Toolbox Murders or....well, basically everything except The Texas Chainsaw Massacre and Salem's Lot.

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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 29/9/2013 1:56:02 PM   
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Just thought of another one - Richard Stanley, post-Island of Dr Moreau. He's directed some stuff since but to all intents and purposes the high-profile career that seemed his for the taking after the reception Hardware got was snuffed out.


Mixed reviews and legal action for not crediting 2000AD?

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RE: The best career deaths ever..... - 29/9/2013 2:02:32 PM   
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Just thought of another one - Richard Stanley, post-Island of Dr Moreau. He's directed some stuff since but to all intents and purposes the high-profile career that seemed his for the taking after the reception Hardware got was snuffed out.


Mixed reviews and legal action for not crediting 2000AD?


I seem to recall it had developed a bit of a cult following by '92/'93 but aye, other than the mild controversy about the writing credits, its release and reception was pretty unmemorable. Not surprising in my view - it's rubbish.

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