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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 11/9/2013 2:02:04 PM   
DancingClown


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Yes, during my teacher training it was part & parcel but nice try.


My comment was not meant to be taken seriously. I am not sincerely suggesting that you might be a pedophile.

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It's got nothing to do with living in a shitty area, kids swear & even if your precious little angel isn't one of them (probably still is) they'll have heard other kids swearing.


My precious little angel? What the fuck are you talking about? Stick it up your arse. My oldest doesn't swear because he's five. His idea of swearing right now is saying the word "bum". I'm sure he'll pick up a few extra words in the future.

Yes, kids do swear. I swore when I was a kid, especially as a teenager. I just think you're exaggerating the issue by suggesting that all under 12s swear like they're in a Martin Scorcese film. But the shittier the area, the shittier the kids. Because of bad parenting. Which might include letting them watch films they shouldn't be watching?

Oh, and stick it up your arse.


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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 11/9/2013 3:24:15 PM   
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Wow, What an angry little man you are, one to avoid here folks I reckon.

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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 11/9/2013 3:53:28 PM   
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Yep, you heard him folks.

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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 11/9/2013 4:29:42 PM   
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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 11/9/2013 4:42:42 PM   
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You could have used a smiley DC, the humour wasn't that obvious

Regarding swearing in schools, there was loads in years 5+6 when I switched primary schools. It was quite a shock to my then sheltered ears.

Did it corrupt me? Fuck knows

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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 11/9/2013 4:49:25 PM   
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Yeah, I swore like a trooper through primary school. I'm not from a shitty area either, just hung about with some older kids.

I don't think a count on the number of 'fucks' in a film is a good idea at all. Who knows what one is going to be one too many? Seems a bit ridiculous. You could say then say how many punches should be allowed? Just ditch 12A altogether.

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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 11/9/2013 7:08:53 PM   
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Would just like to confirm that I know that kids swear, some more than others, some probably don't at all. I just object to the notion that all pre-pubescent kids (of all ages, you'd presume, if you read Mike's initial post, as he wasn't entirely specific) swear like Tommy in Goodfellas and therefore they must somehow be inured to swearing in films and subsequently any form of 'protecting' them should be considered academic.

Plus the "precious little angel" jibe was presumptuous and snidey to say the least.

But anyway, back on topic, I personally consider the whole 12A part of the ratings system to be nonsense. And it is confusing, creating too much grey area and complication for a ratings system that was refreshingly uncomplicated.

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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 11/9/2013 7:18:34 PM   
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If a child of mine swore I honestly don't think I'd care.

If one of them ever said F-bomb I'd put them in a home.

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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 11/9/2013 9:03:20 PM   
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Yes, kids do swear. I swore when I was a kid, especially as a teenager. I just think you're exaggerating the issue by suggesting that all under 12s swear like they're in a Martin Scorcese film. But the shittier the area, the shittier the kids. Because of bad parenting. Which might include letting them watch films they shouldn't be watching?

Oh, and stick it up your arse.



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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 11/9/2013 9:59:46 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Olaf


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Yes, kids do swear. I swore when I was a kid, especially as a teenager. I just think you're exaggerating the issue by suggesting that all under 12s swear like they're in a Martin Scorcese film. But the shittier the area, the shittier the kids. Because of bad parenting. Which might include letting them watch films they shouldn't be watching?

Oh, and stick it up your arse.



pls be satire


Possibility. Hence the question mark. Hear a lot of swearing at home, whether from parents or TV, repeat swearing elsewhere.

Dunno. I've actually lost track of what I was trying to say....

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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 12/9/2013 9:03:29 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DancingClown
Plus the "precious little angel" jibe was presumptuous and snidey to say the least.


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Teenagers, surely, but under 12s? Depends what shitty area one might live in. I'm sure there are some pre-pubescent kids who swear all the time but they're hardly the norm.



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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 12/9/2013 10:14:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Chief

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ORIGINAL: DancingClown
Plus the "precious little angel" jibe was presumptuous and snidey to say the least.


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Teenagers, surely, but under 12s? Depends what shitty area one might live in. I'm sure there are some pre-pubescent kids who swear all the time but they're hardly the norm.





Yes, it was wrong to suggest that the only kids under 12 who swear live in shitty areas, that was not my intention. Last thing I want to do is sound anything like that frightful cunt Katie Hopkins.

But 'Dead Mike' can still go fuck himself.

Now about that 12A....

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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 12/9/2013 4:32:16 PM   
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2 fucks is acceptable but 3 isn't?!Is that the line where children will be corrupted? I'd suggest any parents taking issue with there being 'fucks' in 12A rated films try evesdropping on kids conversations or standing in a school playground, you'll hear more 'fucks' than in a screening of Goodfellas.


Hang out in a lot of playgrounds, do you?

Teenagers, surely, but under 12s? Depends what shitty area one might live in. I'm sure there are some pre-pubescent kids who swear all the time but they're hardly the norm.


I wouldn't know what the norm is but I hear kids under 12 (on buses, in the street, at the match, etc) swearing all the time, and I'm not just taking about kids from shitty areas either.

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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 12/9/2013 4:35:48 PM   
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Mind, I'm from the north which most people think of as one big shitty area so what do I know.

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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 12/9/2013 7:02:18 PM   
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But 'Dead Mike' can still go fuck himself.


Nice attitude .First you infer I'm a nonce then this.

Bet you're 'parent of the year'.

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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 12/9/2013 7:28:51 PM   
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Oh no you didn't!

You just like totally went there, girl!

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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 12/9/2013 7:30:36 PM   
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But 'Dead Mike' can still go fuck himself.


Nice attitude .First you infer I'm a nonce then this.

Bet you're 'parent of the year'.


No, the playground thing was a joke. As someone else pointed out a smiley may have been appropriate for that. Nothing I've said in this thread can possibly reflect on what my parenting skills may be like, and that includes telling you to go fuck yourself. This is an internet forum, not an orphanage. And I assume you're an adult.

Of course, I wouldn't be so abrasive with my children. Other peoples' kids, though...

That last bit there was also a non-serious remark, in case you couldn't tell.

Now, back to that 12A.

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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 13/9/2013 8:41:38 PM   
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to be fair, dead mike's original post did not state that under 12s swear all the time, he simply said they are exposed to a lot of swearing which i suspect is true. It's not like playgrounds are segregated between under and over 12s.

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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 14/9/2013 11:54:08 AM   
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ORIGINAL: DancingClown


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But 'Dead Mike' can still go fuck himself.


Nice attitude .First you infer I'm a nonce then this.

Bet you're 'parent of the year'.


No, the playground thing was a joke. As someone else pointed out a smiley may have been appropriate for that. Nothing I've said in this thread can possibly reflect on what my parenting skills may be like, and that includes telling you to go fuck yourself. This is an internet forum, not an orphanage. And I assume you're an adult.

Of course, I wouldn't be so abrasive with my children. Other peoples' kids, though...

That last bit there was also a non-serious remark, in case you couldn't tell.

Now, back to that 12A.


No your right, nothing you have put can reflect on your parenting skills. However, most of the things you have put clearly expose you as a tosser. You insulted someone with probably the worst slight you could make (Paedophile) and have since been trying to dig yourself out of a hole. I think the best thing you could do is apologise and move on.

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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 14/9/2013 11:59:43 AM   
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I've read this whole thread twice and I still can't find the bit where he called anyone a paedophile.

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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 14/9/2013 4:57:03 PM   
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No your right, nothing you have put can reflect on your parenting skills.


You're.

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However, most of the things you have put clearly expose you as a tosser. You insulted someone with probably the worst slight you could make (Paedophile) and have since been trying to dig yourself out of a hole.


That's not true, I could've suggested he rapes animals as well. But actually, it was just a sly dig that could have profited from a helpful smiley, that's all. Don't be so melodramatic.

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I think the best thing you could do is apologise


The only part of this thread I regret is the muddled and not entirely fair remark I made about kids in shitty areas, a point I have already conceded further back on this page. I have nothing to apologise for, and that includes asking Mike, and now you, to go fuck yourselves. If you feel that an apology is in order I can provide one, only it's written in Braille on the end of my penis and can only be read with your tonsils.

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and move on.


He said, determined to stick his own oar in. Good show.




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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 14/9/2013 5:24:03 PM   
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No your right, nothing you have put can reflect on your parenting skills.


You're.

quote:

However, most of the things you have put clearly expose you as a tosser. You insulted someone with probably the worst slight you could make (Paedophile) and have since been trying to dig yourself out of a hole.


That's not true, I could've suggested he rapes animals as well. But actually, it was just a sly dig that could have profited from a helpful smiley, that's all. Don't be so melodramatic.

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I think the best thing you could do is apologise


The only part of this thread I regret is the muddled and not entirely fair remark I made about kids in shitty areas, a point I have already conceded further back on this page. I have nothing to apologise for, and that includes asking Mike, and now you, to go fuck yourselves. If you feel that an apology is in order I can provide one, only it's written in Braille on the end of my penis and can only be read with your tonsils.

quote:

and move on.


He said, determined to stick his own oar in. Good show.




Oh well excuse me all over for spelling a word wrong, i didn't realize this was pedants corner.
Seems to me like your just another internet warrior that thinks its ok to have a dig at people online when they wouldn't have the balls to do it in real life.
I do think you owed the guy an apology but as your pathetic attempt at humour shows, you are that pig ignorant you feel your comments don't merit it.

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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 14/9/2013 6:21:52 PM   
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Oh well excuse me all over for spelling a word wrong, i didn't realize this was pedants corner.


(grits teeth) Must...resist...

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Seems to me like your just another internet warrior that thinks its ok to have a dig at people online when they wouldn't have the balls to do it in real life.


He said...online.

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I do think you owed the guy an apology but as your pathetic attempt at humour shows, you are that pig ignorant you feel your comments don't merit it.


An apology for what? I think it's quite clear that I don't think anyone in this thread is actually a nonce (well, apart from maybe one or two people) and I never called anyone such a thing. Why you've appointed yourself as Mike's little foot-soldier I've no idea. Get over yourself.


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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 14/9/2013 7:35:59 PM   
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Oh well excuse me all over for spelling a word wrong, i didn't realize this was pedants corner.


You have posted on this forum before, right?

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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 14/9/2013 9:20:49 PM   
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Oh well excuse me all over for spelling a word wrong, i didn't realize this was pedants corner.


You have posted on this forum before, right?

How many times did you double check this post before you clicked "OK?" Damn pedants and their paranoia inducing ways.

Anyway... I don't have a problem with swearing in 12A's as long as people are made aware of it beforehand, and if it's justifiable. The swearing in the King's Speech for instance, was necessary as it was highlighting an effective technique for stammerer's to handle their, um, stammers.
That and the subject matter of the film itself was important enough that it should have been made available to most. I personally learnt a few things about speech impediments when I saw it, and sympathised a lot more with an old schoolmate of mine who suffered as a result of one when he was younger.

The swearing in Star Trek felt tacked on, though. It was like watching "Edgy by Committee," with swearing, dimmer lighting, leather jackets... and swearing!

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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 15/9/2013 3:29:18 AM   
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Oh well excuse me all over for spelling a word wrong, i didn't realize this was pedants corner.


You have posted on this forum before, right?

How many times did you double check this post before you clicked "OK?"


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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 15/9/2013 3:20:11 PM   
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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 15/9/2013 6:41:33 PM   
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Ha, ha, brilliant...

And as the idiot who brought up the original post, I'd just like to re-affirm my original point...

A lot of people don't like swear words and I think a films BBFC rating should reflect that.  I think that ABOUT TIME  had a mild certificate in view of the language and some people might have been offended by it.  That's all.

Just to go off on a tangent slightly, my Mum likes the TV show BIG SCHOOL and, after watching it on Friday night, actually asked me what 'spaffing' meant...

A slightly awkward Sunday dinner...

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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 15/9/2013 9:48:18 PM   
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Just to go off on a tangent slightly, my Mum likes the TV show BIG SCHOOL and, after watching it on Friday night, actually asked me what 'spaffing' meant...



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RE: F-Bombs in 12A-rated movies... - 15/9/2013 11:01:28 PM   
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Just to go off on a tangent slightly, my Mum likes the TV show BIG SCHOOL and, after watching it on Friday night, actually asked me what 'spaffing' meant...



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Just to be sure, in case I got it wrong, I looked it up again and found two separate explanations of that word... one quite rude and one so shockingly rude that I'd be amazed if it was put into a primetime BBC1 show... although I wouldn't put it past Walliams...

Suffice to say, it wasn't mentioned in ABOUT TIME...



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