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American Gothic - 17/3/2006 9:26:46 AM   
belluccisbra


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 Does anybody remember this great series? Quite simular to Twin Peaks in a way but it was genuinely dark and disturbing. Gary Cole was excellant as the sheriff who may or may not be the devil. A shame that they only made one season but American Gothic I remember you fondly!


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RE: American Gothic - 17/3/2006 9:32:27 AM   
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It has been mentioned in a few other threads - you'll see it in the top 100 and the unfairly cancelled ones, so I think there are certainly a few of us about . But, possibly like you, I'm really surprised it hasn't had its own thread up till now.

I loved this show - occasionally cheesy I was impressed at just how nasty and dark it could get - and funny, don't forget funny! I remain stunned that Joe Hardy was involved and sad that Invasion is so not great, as AG was the reason that I was so looking forward to it.

Intelligent TV before its time - like eg Profit, it might still be going if it was made now, rather than then. TV has changed and this kind of intelligent writing is appreciated more.

Although not by the production company - who still, on the UK release, can't get the bloody epis in order! I was going to replace my R1 DVD then saw the same problems in the UK



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RE: American Gothic - 17/3/2006 9:36:42 AM   
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 Am I correct in thinking it was cancelled due to pressure from the religous groups? rather than poor ratings?

The episodes arnt in the right order are they, i'll have to sort out that when the boxset arrives.

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RE: American Gothic - 17/3/2006 9:49:58 AM   
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 It's one of my favourite shows of the mid-90's...originally there were only a couple of us at college who were watching it, but by Christmas we'd converted most of the people on my course...and then it got cancelled!

I still haven't got round to getting the DVD, but that's mainly because I've still got them all taped off the telly.

I just loved it when we discovered that Sheriff Buck really was evil and it wasn't just people getting the wrong idea about him.

There were a couple of American Gothic novels that were pretty cool too. The one that gave Buck's backstory was great...

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RE: American Gothic - 17/3/2006 10:23:30 AM   
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I think I've still got them somewhere. I sold the original VHS official release of the first 3 epis when I got the release date for the DVD - that got a pretty decent price so I guess there are quite a few fans out there!

In this case I don't think it was external pressure but there do seem to lots of conflicting reports on it - it seemed more the network who didn't really know how to deal with a show this dark. I think the also expected higher viewing figures and didn't give it a chance. With so many different aspects - horror not being the least of it - it was a problem. To be honest, I think, a bit like Serenity (obviously with the Paulson connection it comes to mind!) - was it a western? It was funny - do you market it as SF? Action?

Shows like AG have the same problem.

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RE: American Gothic - 17/3/2006 1:52:01 PM   
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Great show, I remember watchign it religiously years ago. I was under the impression they did way more than one season though! Must have just been spread out byt the TV schedulers when I watched it!

I'll have to check this box set out, see if the show still lives up to its name. Weren't they planning a movie on this?

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RE: American Gothic - 17/3/2006 4:52:55 PM   
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 Really loved this show but ended up missing huge chunks of it due to it being on at a ridiculous time of night.
Adored the kid who played Caleb. Got a shock when I saw him in Jarhead recently all grown up.

Is it as good as I remember? If so, may invest in the box set.

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RE: American Gothic - 17/3/2006 6:20:55 PM   
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Sounds great and there was a review of it in the new Total Film that was very positive.

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RE: American Gothic - 17/3/2006 8:11:50 PM   
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Easily as good as you remember and then some.

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RE: American Gothic - 17/3/2006 8:32:08 PM   
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 I've still got a couple of episodes on VHS somewhere. I loved this show and it was always nice to see what sheriff Buck was going to do week to wee as sometimes he was the charecter you were rooting for and others he was  villian. It was a show that challenged your expectations

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RE: American Gothic - 13/4/2006 2:08:23 PM   
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 Possibly my favourite TV show ever. I just love it and was so excited when they released it on dvd. Although none of the episodes are in the correct order so lots of disc swapping going on. The show was cancelled because of all the god fearing yanks who complained about the demonic and satanic undertones of the show. There was never any question regarding the quality of the show. Gary Cole was awesome as the sheriff, Lucas Black just awesome as Caleb and the stories were just so original and wierd. As you can tell by my username and av I'm a big fan.
Plus Sam Raimi was executive producer and one of the episodes is very "Evil Dead" in tone and was actually shot in the same woods as the movie.

I'm so upset that they never made a second series  but apparently they're making a movie with most original cast members coming back, apart form Lucas Black who is now too old to play Caleb. Shame.

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RE: American Gothic - 13/4/2006 6:23:03 PM   
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I got that boxset a while ago and watched it over Christmas. I love it! Buck has to be one of the greatest TV characters ever. Such an unrepentant evil bastard.

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RE: American Gothic - 13/4/2006 7:12:01 PM   
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I got that boxset a while ago and watched it over Christmas. I love it! Buck has to be one of the greatest TV characters ever. Such an unrepentant evil bastard.


Yes but strangely charming and humourous.

I just think he's awesome. Definitely my fave tv show character ever.

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RE: American Gothic - 17/4/2006 12:03:11 AM   
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 I bought it last week, i remember watching when i was little, its still really good, and yeah, Buck is pure evil.

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RE: American Gothic - 8/5/2006 9:42:08 PM   
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Although not by the production company - who still, on the UK release, can't get the bloody epis in order! I was going to replace my R1 DVD then saw the same problems in the UK




Picked up the box set a few weeks back - any chance of someone posting the correct viewing order, as I have very fond memories of this show (strangely enough, didn't know anyone else at the time that liked it) and when I sit down to watch it soon, want to ensure its in the right order.  Please help!!

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RE: American Gothic - 15/5/2006 1:03:52 PM   
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ORIGINAL: elab49


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Although not by the production company - who still, on the UK release, can't get the bloody epis in order! I was going to replace my R1 DVD then saw the same problems in the UK




Picked up the box set a few weeks back - any chance of someone posting the correct viewing order, as I have very fond memories of this show (strangely enough, didn't know anyone else at the time that liked it) and when I sit down to watch it soon, want to ensure its in the right order.  Please help!!


Here is the order the show was intended to be shown in before the stoopid american network screwed it all up.

* Pilot (Disc 1, Side A, Episode 1)
* A Tree Grows in Trinity (Disc 1, Side A, Episode 2)
* Eye of the Beholder (Disc 1, Side A, Episode 3)

* Damned If You Don't (Disc 1, Side B, Episode 1)

* Potato Boy (Disc 3, Side A, Episode 4)

* Dead to the World (Disc 1, Side B, Episode 2)
* Meet the Beetles (Disc 1, Side B, Episode 3)
* Strong Arm of the Law (Disc 1, Side B, Episode 4)

* To Hell and Back (Disc 2, Side B, Episode 3)
* The Beast Within (Disc 2, Side B, Episode 2)

* Rebirth (Disc 2, Side A, Episode 1)

* Ring of Fire (Disc 3, Side B, Episode 1)

* Resurrector (Disc 2, Side A, Episode 2)
* Inhumanitas (Disc 2, Side A, Episode 3)
* The Plague Sower (Disc 2, Side A, Episode 4)

* Doctor Death Takes a Holiday (Disc 2, Side B, Episode 1)
* Learning to Crawl (Disc 2, Side B, Episode 4)

* Echo of Your Last Goodbye (Disc 3, Side B, Episode 2)
* Strangler (Disc 3, Side B, Episode 3)

* Triangle (Disc 3, Side A, Episode 1)
* The Buck Stops Here (Disc 3, Side A, Episode 2)
* Requiem (Disc 3, Side A, Episode 3)

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RE: American Gothic - 15/5/2006 2:36:26 PM   
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Can you imagine how ticked anyone renting it is going to be? With Potato Boy and Ring of Fire particularly.

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RE: American Gothic - 29/8/2006 6:28:34 PM   
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 Just a quick head up guys.....it's getting a repeat next month on ITV4. 10pm on Wednesdays from 27th...

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RE: American Gothic - 20/9/2006 2:21:09 PM   
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 Thnx for that info RuffKut will be glued to the TV again, loved this series though no-one else in my family did. Will be getting the DVD's soon, but glad it's back on TV.

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RE: American Gothic - 20/9/2006 5:06:58 PM   
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Woo!! Thanks for that, Ruffy!

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RE: American Gothic - 20/9/2006 6:56:18 PM   
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 No worries...

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RE: American Gothic - 21/9/2006 10:19:42 AM   
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 Sky+ it.

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RE: American Gothic - 21/9/2006 7:37:57 PM   
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 Probably best to watch it on dvd guys. Unless the British channel intend to show it in the order it was meant to be shown

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RE: American Gothic - 5/10/2006 12:24:48 PM   
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Hey guys, it actually starts on ITV4 next Wednesday (the 11th I think) at 10pm. Woo.

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RE: American Gothic - 5/10/2006 3:15:24 PM   
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 Thanks for the heads up

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RE: American Gothic - 5/10/2006 3:37:58 PM   
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RE: American Gothic - 5/10/2006 3:40:44 PM   
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i loved this show. My parents got my the dvd for xmas, its a pain swapping disk to get it in theright order but it's a great show. Potato Boy was an unaired episode but its one of my favourites, god bless that singing Potato Boy!

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RE: American Gothic - 5/10/2006 4:06:32 PM   
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Probably best to watch it on dvd guys. Unless the British channel intend to show it in the order it was meant to be shown


Indeed - it wasn't shown over here properly first time round. And I am pretty sure ITV4 has been screwing about with the Millennium epi order so it doesn't bode great.

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RE: American Gothic - 5/10/2006 5:18:04 PM   
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Hey guys, it actually starts on ITV4 next Wednesday (the 11th I think) at 10pm. Woo.

Yeah, the Sky magazine lied to me last month...

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RE: American Gothic - 7/10/2006 3:27:43 PM   
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 Didnt it lose its way and go a bit rubbish? or did they just drop it when it was first on?

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