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RE: X men disappointment. - 25/7/2013 3:48:24 PM   
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Anyone seeing this I would recommend staying behind after the credits to watch the X Men 4 teaser. However I would strongly recommend not youtubing it unless you seen The Wolverine first.

The Wolverine doesn't follow the traditional previous X Men films and doesn't feel like one untill the very end. The film begins with a broken Logan. Here we witness the toll Logan had to face with his immortality. Since X Men 3, Logan had excluded himself to the forest, unable to commit sucide and feels he is a prisoner trapped in his own body. Body wise he maybe a one man army but mind wise he's competely lost.
The film is about Logan finding himself again when his old friend from World War 2 offer to end his immortality. However his old friend is at war with the Japanese mob and Logan is forced to become Wolverine again to save his friend's grand daughter. In a way it feels more like a traditional James Bond film than a X Men film. The film isn't filled with mutants but instead it's about Logan pushing himself without his abilities. The only edge he has on the mob is his strength and his exoskeleton. His organs maybe protected by his metal skeleton but everything else is up for grabs.
Overall it feels very different to Wolverine Origins because there is so much character developement. The action scenes may not be as good as the previous films but it feels very down to earth. We do actually get a sense Wolverine could die in this and the impact of this film will influence the next X Men film.

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RE: The Wolverine - 25/7/2013 4:46:32 PM   
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Since the year 2000, the Australian Hugh Jackman has been an international star thanks to his iconic performance as Wolverine in the X-Men franchise. Much like the character from the comics, Jackmanís Logan became so popular that he had his own spin-off in 2009. Sadly, X-Men Origins: Wolverine was a pointless no-brainer that told the characterís backstory that was already somewhat explored in Bryan Singerís superior X2. Now in his sixth outing, Jackman, along with franchise newcomer/director James Mangold, brings us the Wolverine movie weíve all been waiting for.

Following the death of the woman he loved, Jean Grey (Famke Janssen), Logan who no longer sees himself as the Wolverine, now lives as a recluse in the Yukon. However, he receives an invitation to Tokyo to say goodbye to the dying head of a Japanese technology empire, formally a WWII solder whom Logan saved, it turns out that he wants to be an immortal just like Logan.

Although this is a semi-sequel to 2006ís X-Men: The Last Stand, with the exception of the deceased Jean Grey who is seen as this ghostly figure in Loganís dreams, the film is meant to be a standalone Wolverine movie, in which the 2009 prequel wasnít. Taking its cue from the graphic novel by Chris Claremont and Frank Miller, the film is really a fish-out-of-water story with Logan adventuring across japan, where he faces ninjas and samurais. The Japanese setting does make a difference to what we usually from the franchise, as there is a bit of Bond threw in (even including some rather cartoony villains), while the action is mostly based on Asian choreography, as opposed to the usual mutant bashing from the previous films.

Although the fish-out-of-water story has its humorous moments such as Logan and love interest Mariko (Tao Okamoto) sharing a room in a love motel, the drama does suffer from clichťs from this type of story and are often associated with Japanese culture, i.e. Logan described as a ronin: a samurai without a master. However, what makes this an improvement from Origins, is the exploration of Loganís inner demons as he is still mourning Jean Greyís death, as well as during the course of the film, he starts to lose his regenerative ability, feeling physical pain for a long time, even approaching death.

Originally it was going to be directed by Black Swanís Darren Aronofsky (who wouldíve been an interesting choice for the film), but now at the hands of James Mangold, The Wolverine has more substance than the 2009 lacklustre, and doesnít to succumb to the constant action. While he does keep things gripping and never forgets about the protagonistís struggle with death, Mangold sadly drops the ball in the third act, which is an all-CG action fest that lacks interest, and for those comic book fans who are excited to see Silver Samurai, will be disappointed.

Having played this character for over a decade, youíd think that Hugh Jackmanís performance as the Wolverine wouldíve gone tiresome. As he continues this role, including next yearís X-Men: Days of Future Past (stay during the end credits for a nice snippet for what is to come), Jackman here is though watchable with some great one-liners, and he is at his most melancholic since his Oscar-nominated performance from Les Miserables. While most of the Japanese cast are somewhat two-dimensional, the two female leads are nice support for Logan, especially Rila Fukushima as Yukio who seems to be sprung out of the anime world.

Although itís not up there with First Class, but it certainly isnít Origins, as The Wolverine is a perfectly decent actioner that succeeds in its distinctive setting, whilst being a welcoming return for the man with adamantium claws.

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RE: The Wolverine - 25/7/2013 5:16:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: R W

Since the year 2000, the Australian Hugh Jackman has been an international star thanks to his iconic performance as Wolverine in the X-Men franchise. Much like the character from the comics, Jackmanís Logan became so popular that he had his own spin-off in 2009. Sadly, X-Men Origins: Wolverine was a pointless no-brainer that told the characterís backstory that was already somewhat explored in Bryan Singerís superior X2. Now in his sixth outing, Jackman, along with franchise newcomer/director James Mangold, brings us the Wolverine movie weíve all been waiting for.

Following the death of the woman he loved, Jean Grey (Famke Janssen), Logan who no longer sees himself as the Wolverine, now lives as a recluse in the Yukon. However, he receives an invitation to Tokyo to say goodbye to the dying head of a Japanese technology empire, formally a WWII solder whom Logan saved, it turns out that he wants to be an immortal just like Logan.

Although this is a semi-sequel to 2006ís X-Men: The Last Stand, with the exception of the deceased Jean Grey who is seen as this ghostly figure in Loganís dreams, the film is meant to be a standalone Wolverine movie, in which the 2009 prequel wasnít. Taking its cue from the graphic novel by Chris Claremont and Frank Miller, the film is really a fish-out-of-water story with Logan adventuring across japan, where he faces ninjas and samurais. The Japanese setting does make a difference to what we usually from the franchise, as there is a bit of Bond threw in (even including some rather cartoony villains), while the action is mostly based on Asian choreography, as opposed to the usual mutant bashing from the previous films.

Although the fish-out-of-water story has its humorous moments such as Logan and love interest Mariko (Tao Okamoto) sharing a room in a love motel, the drama does suffer from clichťs from this type of story and are often associated with Japanese culture, i.e. Logan described as a ronin: a samurai without a master. However, what makes this an improvement from Origins, is the exploration of Loganís inner demons as he is still mourning Jean Greyís death, as well as during the course of the film, he starts to lose his regenerative ability, feeling physical pain for a long time, even approaching death.

Originally it was going to be directed by Black Swanís Darren Aronofsky (who wouldíve been an interesting choice for the film), but now at the hands of James Mangold, The Wolverine has more substance than the 2009 lacklustre, and doesnít to succumb to the constant action. While he does keep things gripping and never forgets about the protagonistís struggle with death, Mangold sadly drops the ball in the third act, which is an all-CG action fest that lacks interest, and for those comic book fans who are excited to see Silver Samurai, will be disappointed.

Having played this character for over a decade, youíd think that Hugh Jackmanís performance as the Wolverine wouldíve gone tiresome. As he continues this role, including next yearís X-Men: Days of Future Past (stay during the end credits for a nice snippet for what is to come), Jackman here is though watchable with some great one-liners, and he is at his most melancholic since his Oscar-nominated performance from Les Miserables. While most of the Japanese cast are somewhat two-dimensional, the two female leads are nice support for Logan, especially Rila Fukushima as Yukio who seems to be sprung out of the anime world.

Although itís not up there with First Class, but it certainly isnít Origins, as The Wolverine is a perfectly decent actioner that succeeds in its distinctive setting, whilst being a welcoming return for the man with adamantium claws.



How is the train fight sequence from a CGI point of view?

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RE: The Wolverine - 25/7/2013 5:51:13 PM   
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The train sequence happens prior to the third act, but is a very entertaining sequence.

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Stay past the credits! - 26/7/2013 12:09:31 AM   
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Not bad but not great. Nice to see Japan as the backdrop but it takes a little while to hit its stride. Not much point in seeing it in 3D either. Jackman does his best with a slightly unispiring plot, but not a disaster.

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RE: Stay past the credits! - 26/7/2013 3:03:20 PM   
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The final fight sequence was a bit of a let down,,,,but much better than his first solo outing....

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Frustrating - 26/7/2013 8:50:34 PM   
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I walked out of this really annoyed. There are some good parts in the movie, enought to make you think that this could have been so much better. A dull mid section, an unbelievable romantic interlude, an unnecessary fight over an open hearted wolverine, lots of basil exposition and an ending that doesn't jump, but vaults the shark, let this down badly. The viper lady appears to be in another film, and as for the bloke in the samurai iron man suit.... Well, at least that was funny. Stupidest film of the summer.

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Awesome - 27/7/2013 3:10:51 AM   
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Now this is more like it. No, it's not perfect (Jean turned up a few times to many for my liking, and it goes full retard by the end BUT! I had a great time with it, it is the best version of Logan we've seen thus far (Jackman is freaking jack-ed) and it's miles better than Origins and X3. Finally a movie that does the character justice!

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decent - 28/7/2013 7:11:19 PM   
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I really enjoyed it. Rather obvious and lame final few minutes and that mid/post credit sequence is terrible!

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More claws, less bite. - 29/7/2013 12:53:09 AM   
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I enjoyed The Wolverine a great deal, but the unfolding-mystery, nomadic-warrior, and super-hero influences are all pulling in different directions. At least there don't appear to be any of the internal-continuity issues that the series has suffered from so far, and if nothing else it answered one of my questions about the bone-claws. Another viewing required, I think.

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Wolves and Ninjas or Ninja or Ninji? - 29/7/2013 9:41:29 AM   
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The lone Wolf heads of to Japan to pay respects to a man he saved from the Nagasaki Atomic bombings and ends up in a plot involving honour, love, immortality, politics and money.
Haunted by visions of Famke Janseen in negligee - (which could be a lot worse by the way) Wolverine is probably my favourite comic book hero. There’s some nice backstory and scene setting that adds gravitas to our hero and is a nice balance with the usual action and smashing about. The fight on on the Bullet Train is one of the best action scenes i’ve seen in years.
Other than Logan there’s minimal mutants, a Japanese girl that can foresee people’s death and Viper a kind of poisonous snake women that can kill people by kissing them. This lack of mutants might be an issue for some but for me the humanity and vulnerability of the characters kept me more engaged.
A good story with a decent if unsurprising twist at the end. There’s even an Arnie moment as he throws a guy out of a window into a swimming pool. Sometimes you get a comic book thing that happens o be a film and sometimes you get a film that just happens to have comic book heroes in. This is the later. I enjoyed it more than Superman, more than Iron Man III and it goes without saying that it’s way better than the 2009 origin movie.
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A different kind of superhero movie. - 29/7/2013 1:50:48 PM   
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I enjoyed every part of this movie. Its quite different from any other comic-book film out there but thats what made it interesting. The story was well told and nicely paced. It wasn't action for the sake of action. Speaking of which, the fight sequences were very well executed. Wolverine himself is portrayed much meaner and grittier which brings him back to his roots. My only complaints is the giant samurai robot was a bit of a stretch of the imagination and at times the claws looked like they were between jackman's fingers. Overall very good. Looking forward to an 18s (or maybe 15s)/R rated DVD/Blu-Ray.

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RE: A different kind of superhero movie. - 30/7/2013 11:49:57 AM   
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I enjoyed this film far more than most of the world's reviewers seemed to. Perhaps it's because the general consensus was that it's nothing special that I was able to enjoy it more instead of expect something more.
After the three big comic book movies from the last couple of years (Avengers/Dark Knight Rises/Man Of Steel) it was actually kind of refreshing that The Wolverine didn't go the epic route with the large cast, and an entire city/world at stake... as much as I loved all three of the aforementioned movies. It was nice to see a comic book movie that was instead a personal look at the hero, see him battling with past decisions (the finale of The Last Stand is far more emotional here than it was in the actual movie), and Hugh Jackman is able to explore every facet of the character extremely well... equally at home with the emotional stuff as he is with the action.

When it comes to the action, though, it's strangely Yukio that most impresses in this movie... especially in her fight against Shingen. Rila Fukushima is really a name that people should look out for, as I'd be surprised if she doesn't go on to great things either in Hollywood or at home.

There are a couple of issues... the romance between Logan and Mariko seems rushed, and though it's mentioned that Mariko is an expert knife-thrower, this skill is never explored in the movie itself. Would've been great if it actually made use of her in the action scenes more. Logan using his claws whilst his healing factor isn't working should result in tons of blood and extreme pain, instead his hands still heal. Also, the ending gets a bit silly, with Viper seemingly channeling Uma Thurman's Poison Ivy at points. But there's nothing that's enough to derail the entire movie. Don't go in expecting an epic and you should be decently entertained by The Wolverine.

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RE: A different kind of superhero movie. - 30/7/2013 12:04:59 PM   
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I can't believe people seem to no longer like X2....that shit is brilliant! It's a great comic book movie!

Anyway, The Wolverine is not too bad. I enjoyed it quite a bit, and I think a lot of that is due to this feeling a lot smaller and slower than most of the big comic book movies from the last couple of years, particularly the MCU movies. It has a more sedate pace for the first two acts, and it reminded me of the first two X Men movies in tone, so yea I was enjoying it. The action scenes weren't too OTT adn, shitty CG aside, the Bullet Train sequence was enjoyable. The third act is a bit messy, in that it seems to shift tone and become typically 'comic book movie' and as I expected the plot to come together and make sense, it didnt really make much. Viper was largely terrible and the character of Harada seems to be missing scenes as I had next to no idea what he was all about. Still, it was an enjoyable enough couple of hours and the Days Of Future Past brought a smile to my face - looking forward to that.

Also, afterwards, I was thinking that was it me, or did a LOT of scenes in The Wolverine revolve around characters being in bed? Every second scene seemed to be Wolvrine asleep, dreaming, in bed with his new missus, being drugged, waking up startled with claws out etc etc. Seriously, that seemed to happen loads!

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RE: A different kind of superhero movie. - 30/7/2013 12:19:13 PM   
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X-Men 2 is my second favourite X-Men movie after First Class.
The original X-Men movie is still enjoyable, but has slipped down to fourth place after The Wolverine.

The less said about the other two, the better...

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RE: A different kind of superhero movie. - 30/7/2013 2:54:00 PM   
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Thought this was ok but nothing particularly special.

I understand that this was designed to be a relatively scaled back superhero film compared to the other X films but i found this to be fairly boring at times.Like porntrooper said, there were a ton of scenes that seem to revolve around Logan in bed waking up dazed and being fed seemingly endless amounts of exposition.

The action scenes when they do come are pretty good and Yukio was a terrific sidekick for Logan.However, once Logan gets his powers back the film seems to build up to what was promising to be a truly epic fight with an army of ninjas...except that Logan all of a sudden gets cold feet and runs away like a little girl when he sees the amount of ninjas that hes facing.Seriously, Logan should have cut them all to ribbons!

The '' twist '' was the most predictable one in years and Viper is so blatantly a Poison Ivy rip off that im surprised that DC isnt suing for copyright.

The post credit DOFP scene is intruiging but doesnt really tell us anything that we dont know about the upcoming film ( That Ian Mckellan and Patrick Stewart are back as Magneto and Xavier ).

All in all, a fairly diverting solo adventure for Logan but one i dont think i will ever bother watching again and honestly i think i enjoyed X Men Origins Wolverine more!

Its better than First Class though which is easily the worst of the X Men movies.


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RE: The Wolverine - 30/7/2013 2:55:16 PM   
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I enjoyed this. That is all.

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RE: The Wolverine - 30/7/2013 4:35:36 PM   
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This is much much better than the last Wolverine movie, but at the same time perhaps the most disposable - very few mutants, a standalone plot etc

Surprised it got a 12A!

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RE: A different kind of superhero movie. - 30/7/2013 4:36:21 PM   
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Thought this was ok but nothing particularly special.

I understand that this was designed to be a relatively scaled back superhero film compared to the other X films but i found this to be fairly boring at times.Like porntrooper said, there were a ton of scenes that seem to revolve around Logan in bed waking up dazed and being fed seemingly endless amounts of exposition.

The action scenes when they do come are pretty good and Yukio was a terrific sidekick for Logan.However, once Logan gets his powers back the film seems to build up to what was promising to be a truly epic fight with an army of ninjas...except that Logan all of a sudden gets cold feet and runs away like a little girl when he sees the amount of ninjas that hes facing.Seriously, Logan should have cut them all to ribbons!

The '' twist '' was the most predictable one in years and Viper is so blatantly a Poison Ivy rip off that im surprised that DC isnt suing for copyright.

The post credit DOFP scene is intruiging but doesnt really tell us anything that we dont know about the upcoming film ( That Ian Mckellan and Patrick Stewart are back as Magneto and Xavier ).

All in all, a fairly diverting solo adventure for Logan but one i dont think i will ever bother watching again and honestly i think i enjoyed X Men Origins Wolverine more!

Its better than First Class though which is easily the worst of the X Men movies.



But..but you loved Origins didn't you?

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RE: A different kind of superhero movie. - 31/7/2013 12:30:34 AM   
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I was pleasantly surprised by this film. I watched Origins for the first time last night in preparation for this film and it was god awful (Origins that is). Having said that, the change of setting made a world of difference for me (from a personal perspective, I have lived in Japan for a while and the film did make me want to go back there again). I was glad they didn't include a whole bunch of other mutants in this film and just made it about Logan.

Re the dreams- I thought he was being manipulated at first by the snake woman, but it did feel a bit anti-climatic having them just be Logan guilt-tripping over Jean. And the fact that he was racked by guilt makes his decision to leave rather confusing. I would have thought that he could now be together with Mariko. Unless this was explained by the post-credits scene? Which I stupidly missed by walking out

Surprised they managed to get away with a 12A- whilst there wasn't much blood and guts on display, some of Logan's takedowns were pretty brutal. Plus he said the F word too

Also, the woman who plays Mariko is so fricking hot it is untrue. She must be a model or something

EDIT: 3.5/5

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RE: A different kind of superhero movie. - 1/8/2013 8:29:36 AM   
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Logan, aka Wolverine, saves an army officer called Yashida during the dropping of the atomic bomb on Nagasaki. Fast forward to the present day, and Logan has retreated to the Canadian wilderness following the death of his love Jean Grey, whom he was forced to kill, and the disbanding of the X-Men. He is located by Yukio, a woman with mutant powers enabling her to see peopleís deaths, representing Yashida, now the CEO of a technology corporation. He is dying of cancer, and wants Logan to accompany Yukio to Japan where he can give him the mortality he has always craved. However, he soon finds himself having to deal with the Yakuza and the venomous ViperÖ.


Be it because it told an origin story that didnít really need to be told, the constant popping up of meaningless characters showing a lack of real interest in the title character, or the incoherently shot action scenes where it was very hard to make out what was going on, the first solo outing for the most popular of the X-Men missed the mark, and I certainly wasnít enthused about a second movie. Iím one of those few people who thinks that Wolverine, however well played he may be by Hugh Jackman, is actually somewhat less interesting than Marvel think, and can think of several X-People Iíd rather spend more time with. Nonetheless, we have a second movie, and I will admit I was briefly excited when both Darren Aronofsky and Guillermo Del Toro were going to direct it, but sadly that didnít come to pass. Instead, James Mangold takes the directorís chair, while for some reason Christopher McQuarrie goes un-credited with the script even though he wrote the first version of it. Actually Mangold is hardly a poor director, but neither really was Gavin Hood Ė yet X-Men Origins: Wolverine still came out rather poorly.

Well, the good news is that this is a much better movie, clearly made with love for the character. I canít tell you if itís faithful to the version of this story that the comics tell, but it certainly feels right, at least for the most part. Itís mostly a very serious affair, if enlivened by the odd bit of restrained humour, and quite deliberately paced for the first two thirds. One of my major criticisms of all of these Marvel films is that, except for Captain America, Iron Man 3 and of course The Avengers, they just donít have enough action, enough of its lead characters doing what they do best. Too much time is spent on either setting things up for this and that, or just marking time. The Wolverine isnít really an action-packed film, but its leisurely movement seems fitting for the state of mind of Wolverine and its major setting. Japan has always been a great opportunity for a visually interesting setting for films, and so it is here, though the decision has been taken to have it almost constantly raining, helping to give some of the proceedings an almost film noir feel.

The film opens with the dropping of the second atomic bomb, and any picture that has the gall to do this is worthy of some respect. Off the top of my head, I can only think of one other film that did this, Frankenstein Conquers The World, and that was a few more minutes into it. The brief lead-up to the atrocity is strikingly photographed by Ross Emery, though when the bomb hits the ground, weak CGI takes over and severely weakens the scene. Never mind, we flash then forward to the present day to find Wolverine living as a hermit in Canada, though we soon return to Japan. The story immediately has a strong emotional dimension, and if this sometimes gets lost amidst all the family squabbling, ninjas, yakuza and a samurai variant on Iron Man, the writers bravely keep the taleís focus narrow. Not many lives are being threatened outside of the people in the story, while Wolverine is in nearly every scene. Unfortunately, the constantly scowling hero threatens to become slightly tedious company after a while, and his emotional journey is a thoroughly predictable one. I donít think the unoriginal character is nearly as fascinating as the writers seem to think.


The writers avoid the temptation to pack The Wolverine full of mutants and only put one other in the film, the deadly Viper, who carries out an especially lethal variant of the French kiss. Jackman, who looks both more muscular than he has ever done before and is also starting to look rather like Clint Eastwood, is accompanied much of the time by two strong leading ladies who are virtual newcomers; the gorgeous Rila Okamoto, and Rila Fukushima, who shows adeptness at martial arts in a film which avoids the expected mutant battles and goes for a more realistic and very Asian style of action. The highlight action-wise is a fight on a train which plays like a more believable version of a scene from Spiderman 2. Though Wolverine gets to bloodlessly slice and dice more folk than normal throughout, considerable tension is derived by him actually able to bleed and get hurt for some of the time, though not enough time or significance is devoted to him losing some of his powers, even if weíve all seen that happen to superheroes before. The action also gets increasingly predictable. Once again, we have our hero and his helper facing off against the two main baddies in different places. The potential hinted at by the early portion of the film isnít really fulfilled, but then this is a Marvel film after all, not allowing for too much originality or deviation from formula.

Far worse than that though, Mangold has seen fit to film much of this action in the manner most filmmakers see fit to do these days. You know what I mean, lots of one-second cuts and shaking about of the camera. The editing is less random than in some films, but why in hell does Mangold decide that itís a good idea for his cameraman to start shaking the camera about madly during a chase sequence? It just feels like the cameraman is running with the characters whilst having an epileptic fit. It doesnít make the action edgy or realistic, it just creates frustration and nausea. Itís sad enough that most young directors feel this is the way to do it, but itís truly, truly awful that experienced filmmakers, who were making films back when common filmmaking logic was actually being followed and basic filmmaking skill was also usually being followed, like Mangold and Gary Ross use this atrocious style. Is it too much to ask to want to see what is happening, to not get sore eyes and sometimes a bloody headache, when people on a cinema screen are engaging in action?

The Wolverine, despite taking its time, still feels a little rushed in sections. There is talk of a more violent version for home viewing [though even in its current form it pushes the boundaries of the 12A/PG-13 ratings with its self surgery scene], and I think the film will benefit from this. Still, The Wolverine is rather better than non-Marvel fans would expect. Itís made with some care and intelligence while still being entertaining, and Jackman gives probably his best performance as the character. 007 fans look out for a crib from Diamonds Are Forever.

Rating: 7/10

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RE: A different kind of superhero movie. - 1/8/2013 3:07:05 PM   
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Also, the woman who plays Mariko is so fricking hot it is untrue. She must be a model or something


Both Tao Okamoto who plays Mariko and Rila Fukushima who plays Yukio are indeed models.

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RE: A different kind of superhero movie. - 2/8/2013 1:46:15 PM   
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I liked it. It's probably my favourite film of the (disappointing) summer. Lower expectations and all that.

Stupid finale though.

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RE: A different kind of superhero movie. - 2/8/2013 4:23:30 PM   
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I enjoyed it and to be honest i don't ask for anything more in a film. There are some big flaws to it (see the rubbish finale and the awful cinematography for some of the action films with close up confusion and shaky cam headaches). Jackman presents a nice charismatic performance, the other actors all perform well and the first three quarters in particular was very enjoyable and well made.

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better than expected - 3/8/2013 10:28:18 AM   
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I was expecting this film to be as bad as his last solo outing, but it wasn't it was a pretty decent popcorn film for a rainy Friday evening. I agree that he didn't feel to get emotionally attached to Japan as he should have but there were two uncounted for by the end of the film - maybe he stayed? I also as a comic fan have to stress and anger at changing another famous Marvel villain, Yes Viper is not a mutant she is the head of HYDRA, but that aside I don't have any other major concerns about this film.
PS. Post credit scene was by far one of my favs. Trask industries in the background and the return of two loved X-men DOFP will be epic

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RE: The Wolverine - 5/8/2013 11:35:33 AM   
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Another disappointing addition to the X-Men franchise. Not as bad as Last Stand or Origins but certainly not hitting the peaks of First Class and X2. I just feel like they said all they can say about Jackman's version of Wolverine and I'd happily not have him in another X-film for quite some time (I really hope he isn't the main character in DOFP). The pacing, dialogue, tone and acting was all over the place and the set pieces / action scenes just didn't have any impact. There were some nice moments but overall I was left a bit bored by it.

Wolverine really needs to be given the 18 rated treatment that the character demands. If only Marvel were able to get the character back and add him to a roster of more adult-tinged anti-hero movies (Punisher, Ghost Rider, Daredevil, Deadpool and Wolverine need a different approach so we avoid superhero fatigue).




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RE: The Wolverine - 5/8/2013 11:38:33 AM   
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Another disappointing addition to the X-Men franchise. Not as bad as Last Stand or Origins but certainly not hitting the peaks of First Class and X2. I just feel like they said all they can say about Jackman's version of Wolverine and I'd happily not have him in another X-film for quite some time (I really hope he isn't the main character in DOFP). The pacing, dialogue, tone and acting was all over the place and the set pieces / action scenes just didn't have any impact. There were some nice moments but overall I was left a bit bored by it.

Wolverine really needs to be given the 18 rated treatment that the character demands. If only Marvel were able to get the character back and add him to a roster of more adult-tinged anti-hero movies (Punisher, Ghost Rider, Daredevil, Deadpool and Wolverine need a different approach so we avoid superhero fatigue).


Hate to disappoint you, but according to people who saw footage screened at ComicCon, in Days Of Future Past Wolverine takes Kitty Pryde's place as the character sent back in time to save the world.

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DELIVERS the GOODS!!! - 5/8/2013 7:36:34 PM   
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A Solid instalment in the Marvel Franchise!!


So it's back to basics with Wolverine for this outing and it's more better for it. After an epic prologue in an Japanese POW camp, we start with Logan in a small town Canadian retreat, Before you know it he's claws ready for the kill in a bar brawl and the then the mysterious and colourful Yukio played by Tao Okamato turns up with a sudden proposition,....

So it's off to Japan with Logan and his sidekick ninja chick get caught up in a web of chop socky, deception and intrigue concerning an old friend, Yakuza boss Yashida (Hal Yamanouchi) in depserate need of Wolverines healing powers,...and stopping at nothing to have them. This is an entertaining solid Romp for Logan here,..still tormented by nightmares of Jean Grey as we delve deeper into the now more Vulnerable wolverine stripped of his powers by snake like, seductive agent Viper played with cunning force by Sevetlana Khodchenkova.

Placing Wolverine amongst samurai mythology and Japanese setting is a great idea, drawing once again form the best Frank Miller Stories about him and giving Wolverine the bite he delivered in the first two X- men movies. Check out some great action set pieces, most notably a high speed train fight, which is truly breathtaking in places and a nicely choreographed punch up at a funeral. And all the while old Logan even manages to have decent love interest, Mariko played by Tao Okamoto.

In the end we a cool showdown with ninjas a plenty and a giant robotic Samuria thrown in for good measure,...so fan's will get plenty of titanium crunching claw action here.


WATCH IT!!!


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RE: DELIVERS the GOODS!!! - 6/8/2013 12:31:22 PM   
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Even though I enjoyed it a great deal still think they could've gone a lot more darker BUT! spose they probably didn't want a 15 cert here's hoping we may get a Directors Cut when it comes to B.R/DVD?
Only thing that really bugged me was Viper not having Green Hair (Not much in the grand schemes I know)

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RE: DELIVERS the GOODS!!! - 6/8/2013 12:39:56 PM   
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I don't know much about Viper. I thought she was one of the worst elements of film and should have been handled a lot better, as her by-the-numbers comic book villainy was seriously at odds with how grounded the rest of the film was. Though she's certainly better than Deadpool was. Anyway... I think if she had green hair, I'd have more closely associated her with Abigail Brand - who should really make an appearance in an X-Men film at some point.

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