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Have we seen the same movie???? - 26/4/2013 7:44:02 AM   
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I saw IM3 last night and I must say it was a big disappointment. I'm a big fan of the the Marvel universe for the majority of my 38 years and this movie was big let down. To me the direction the Mandarin character took was smart for any other kind of movie but not for an Iron Man one. The jokes/smart lines or what ever you call it were lucking wit and were there to force laughter. The so called soulsearching travel of Tony Stark was poorly written and executed. It will certainly make big bucks but in tiny little book of mine will go down as Marvel's worst movie ever and this years' biggest flops. :(

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RUBBISH - RUINED THE FRANCHISE - 26/4/2013 10:00:57 AM   
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This film was garbage from the bad one liners and stupid wit.
What were they trying to achieve? Nothing like the other two films, This is the superman 4 of iron man! the franchise is dead im going to try and forget that i saw it and leave it at 1 and 2.
Iron Man is dead not watching another one.... please don't put humanity through another half hearted attempt.

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RE: Have we seen the same movie???? - 26/4/2013 10:17:25 AM   
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Strange one this, it's never anything less than enjoyable for the duration, however much like the previous two films something is missing, can't quite put my finger on what.

First off it's lacking a truly decent nemesis, three films now and between Bridges, Rourke, Rockwell, Kingsley and Pearce not one of them is what I'd class as genuinely memorable, at all.

Set pieces are also a sticking point for me, there's plenty of whiz-bang on display, but nothing that ever really sets the world on fire. The Air Force One sequence is great, but it lasts about 2 minutes. The finale is decent enough also, but not a patch on Iron Man 2's final bust-up in my opinion.

Other than that I don't have many complaints, it's a fun ride overall.

3/5

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RE: Iron Man 3 - 26/4/2013 10:31:08 AM   
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The best Iron Man movie yet and (almost) a match for The Avengers. Only a few minor quibbles:









SPOILERS!!!!!

a) The 3D conversion was pointless. Marvel stop using it

b) I was a little disappointed they didn't link up the Ten Rings mention in Iron Man 1 with the Mandarin plot in Iron Man 3. When Aldrich Killian says he has always been The Mandarin I was half expecting him to admit that it was he who has kept Stark trapped in the cave etc etc - would've rounded off the trilogy nicely

c) where was the shot of The Mandarin with (what looks like) a Captain America shield tattooed on his neck from the trailer? The Manadrin poster had also featured what looked like Steve Roger's helmet and I honestly believed there would be some tie-in to Cap. For a while I was convinced The Mandarin would turn out to be Tony's dad (having faked his own death or something), with his links to Cap and the fact that the kid had mentioned talk of absent fathers etc I thought it would be brilliant surprise and would have made a lot of sense (maybe he got a Cap Tat because he idolised him)

Anyway other than those minor issues I thought it was excellent. The scenes with the kid were brilliant, the reveal about the Mandarin was hilarious (and I'm sure the fanboys will hate it!), Rhodes / War Machine / Iron Patriot was actually likeable this time around, Pepper had a great little arc for once, Guy Pearce proved he should be cast in way more films and, as always RDJ stood out as the greatest embodiment of a super hero on screen ever.




END OF SPOILERS!!!!


Oh and the use of Eiffel 65 in the opening scene and the closing credit montage of clips from all the Iron Man movies were inspired. Shane Black may have just toppled The Last Boy Scout from its perch as my favourite action movie script of all time....


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RE: Iron Man 3 - 26/4/2013 10:41:26 AM   
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I am honestly stunned at how many people dislike this movie.

Obviously everyone has their own opinions, everyone had different expectations but I didn't anticipate it dividing people so severely.

I absolutely loved it, I personally think it is the strongest of the three. At absolutely no point did I feel bored, it felt like it moved swiftly over the course of those two hours. I loved all the characters and how they were dealt with. Tony's PTSD was a really nice touch and added that extra depth to him and Pepper was well-used, never content to just being 'Tony Stark's girlfriend'. I am not a big fan of kids in movies but I loved the interaction between Tony and Harley, it effectively addressed the fact that Tony really doesn't know how to talk to kids. I do wish that Maya had been used more but Rebecca Hall did good with what she had, I thought.

I get that a lot of people's hang ups are with the way the Mandarin was handled. I personally loved the twist on that because these aren't the comics, this is a different universe and so they aren't going to deal with everything the same way. Pepper and Tony were never a couple in the comics yet here they are and it's all good. Maybe because it is the Mandarin - Iron Man's ultimate foe - that people are particular peeved which I understand but I don't think it eliminated a threat in any way. Tony still had something to fight for. If anything, I thought it was more effective. This is a story more about Tony Stark than Iron Man so what better than to have a villain of his own creation almost, something personal, and something that he might not be able to match with the suit.

I thought the supporting cast were great (I was so glad that Jon Favreau returned as Happy, despite not directing), and I really loved the very brief cameo at the start harking back to the first movie. And who didn't love Gary? Seriously?

I will admit to Kiss Kiss Bang Bang being my fifth favourite film ever so I was probably predisposed to love it anyway. I have never seen a Shane Black film and not enjoyed it and watched it numerous times after (yes, including Last Action Hero). He left his mark all over this and I, for one, thought it was the better for it. I liked the grittiness of it, the way everyone talks over each other, the realness of the dialogue, the laughs...I thought it was a very well rounded film for action, heart and comedy.

I would be more than happy if this was the last we see of Robert as Tony in his own movies. I think it was a nice place to finish it and I can't wait to go see it again. But in 2D this time because, as usual, I got nothing out of the 3D.

Edit: Oh, and also the whole Extremis thing...I was really worried about it because I have never really like the story and didn't like the idea of this Tony using it so I am so glad that they went in a different direction. I have read that a lot of people found the whole Extremis thing confusing but I thought it was pretty straight forward. Maybe it helps to know its background but I went with my dad and he knows nothing and had no issues.

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RE: Iron Man 3 - 26/4/2013 10:49:16 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ChudMonkey

The best Iron Man movie yet and (almost) a match for The Avengers. Only a few minor quibbles:









SPOILERS!!!!!

a) The 3D conversion was pointless. Marvel stop using it

b) I was a little disappointed they didn't link up the Ten Rings mention in Iron Man 1 with the Mandarin plot in Iron Man 3. When Aldrich Killian says he has always been The Mandarin I was half expecting him to admit that it was he who has kept Stark trapped in the cave etc etc - would've rounded off the trilogy nicely

c) where was the shot of The Mandarin with (what looks like) a Captain America shield tattooed on his neck from the trailer? The Manadrin poster had also featured what looked like Steve Roger's helmet and I honestly believed there would be some tie-in to Cap. For a while I was convinced The Mandarin would turn out to be Tony's dad (having faked his own death or something), with his links to Cap and the fact that the kid had mentioned talk of absent fathers etc I thought it would be brilliant surprise and would have made a lot of sense (maybe he got a Cap Tat because he idolised him)

Anyway other than those minor issues I thought it was excellent. The scenes with the kid were brilliant, the reveal about the Mandarin was hilarious (and I'm sure the fanboys will hate it!), Rhodes / War Machine / Iron Patriot was actually likeable this time around, Pepper had a great little arc for once, Guy Pearce proved he should be cast in way more films and, as always RDJ stood out as the greatest embodiment of a super hero on screen ever.




END OF SPOILERS!!!!


Oh and the use of Eiffel 65 in the opening scene and the closing credit montage of clips from all the Iron Man movies were inspired. Shane Black may have just toppled The Last Boy Scout from its perch as my favourite action movie script of all time....



These were pretty much the same as my queries, too. The whole thing with your c)...that was all a bit weird. I wonder if it was cut or if it was just put in the trailers for further misleading. And I did wonder if they would tie b) in from IM1 but wasn't too disappointed that they didn't.

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RE: Iron Man 3 - 26/4/2013 11:40:35 AM   
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Abit odd.The press/media have seemed to give the film some good/great praise while the fans seem (going by other views on the web) somewhat disheartened by the film.
Might check the film out once it comes out on DVD.I enjoyed the first Iron Man but I didn't take much notice of the second due to bad reviews/reports.

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RE: Iron Man 3 - 26/4/2013 12:14:02 PM   
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Slow not very interesting first half hour, but then everything kicked into gear and by the end I was loving it.

Loved the Mandarin reveal, loved the remote control suit, loved Guy Pearce.

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RE: Awesome review!!! - 26/4/2013 12:32:06 PM   
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Gotta say I was hugely disappointed with this.

Main gripe has to be the treatment of Iron Mans arch-nemesis, I mean wtf????

A close second was the plot. I mean just what was "extremis", zero explanation was ever given. How were these people able to heat their bodies up to 3000 centigrade? What was Guy Pearces great master plan?? When did Iron Mans armor become so lame and throwaway?? Pearce was cutting through it like it was made of chocolate at the end.

Right before the final set piece I thought to myself, they've tried to cram way too much in to one film and i believe they have. Way more explanation was needed of certain things, more fleshing out of Tony's ex and the VP was definitely needed and less of an emphasis on lame humor.

Oh and other post credit scene ain't worth sticking about right to the bitter end for.

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The best Iron Man film IMHO - 26/4/2013 12:38:45 PM   
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Not sure what some people were expecting from some of the comments on here...I went with the same guy I saw the other 2 Iron Man films with and we both loved it. Yes, if you boil it down some things don't make sense, some characters are underwritten. However for the sheer spectacle it was amazing. Ben Kingsley was a revelation, so good. Was it as good as The Avengers? No, not for me but against the other Iron Man films it just pips the first one to be the best.

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RE: The best Iron Man film IMHO - 26/4/2013 2:37:54 PM   
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I enjoyed it for the most part. I'd agree that some of the humour feel a bit flat (though you'd think it was The Year's Best Comedy™ going by the reaction of one couple at my screening - still, they were enjoying themselves so I don't mean to pop their bubble), and the extremis needed a bit more background to it, but it was a suitably enjoyable evening at the flicks.

**SPOILER** I noticed after the post-credit sting the legend 'Tony Stark will return', so I can presume that RDJ will at least sign a contract that at least enables his character to appear in the next Avengers movie? I find it very to picture anyone else in the role of Stark (unles they were setting up that kid to take over, seeing as Stark kits him out in the end as way of a thank you - lol)

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RE: The best Iron Man film IMHO - 26/4/2013 2:45:58 PM   
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OK, cool. Looks like spoilers are getting discussed... so time to wade in....

So, yea, spoilers aplenty!

Having had an evening to reflect on my initial thoughts, I'm still somewhat conflicted about it all. During the marketing, it was starting to look that IM3 would kick start Phase 2 with a new visual direction, a darker and more threatening world for Tony, and finally a big threat for him to take down on his own. In reality, IM3 doesn't really create it's own visual identity (remaining very much within the pretty but un-inspiring world of Marvel movies - maybe a bit more on this later), never really delivers a real threat or danger to Tony (What exactly was Killian's plan?) and keeps things very, very lighthearted.

I thought the first third was pretty great, and the Shane Black-ness of the script during that first third made things feel different to other Marvel movies, even if the visuals and direction never do. I loved the 1999 flashback to open things, largely due to the random use of Eifel Whatever-The-Fuck and Vincent Vega inspired Happy Hogan (I love the idea that Happy saw Pulp Fiction and just modelled himself on Vincent Vega!), I was enjoying the post-Avengers Tony being troubled by anxiety, and if ever there was a way to touch on the alcoholism, here it was. As The Madarin is revealled via the video messages I was already won over by Kingsley, and it felt that he could definately take off and become the one major threat to Tony, something each stand alone Iron Man movie has sorely missed. The threat level also felt nicely increased with the introduction of Savin and the Chinese Theatre set piece, then ending with the attack on the mansion which I think probably stands as the second best set piece across the three movies (I'll get to the best a little later).

So yea, lots to like and I was along for the ride and it was ticking the boxes. However, I think that problems really crept in during that second act and the stop off in Small Town America. I didn't mind the interplay between Tony and Harley, but it was during these scenes that I felt Blacks back and forth script and snappy dialoge started to feel a little forced and was starting to verge on being almost too snappy and aware of how rat-a-tat the back and forth was. There is some great dialogue (I loved the exchange as Tony and Harley parted ways and Tone teased about being 'connected') but at times it felt too much. I love Shane Black scripts, Last Boy Scout, Kiss Kiss Bang Bang and Long Kiss Good Night rank as some of my favourite thrillers, but it started to feel a little too much here.

Also in the second act I was starting to think, what the fuck is the plan here, what is The Mandarin's end game? Nothing was really jumping out as a typical villainous plot, he appears simply to want to kill Mr President. All very fine, and almost a welcome change to the whizz bang OTT bad guys of most comic book movies, but with the underlying plot line of the Extremis Soldiers, you just know something else has to be at play. So, as that second act plays out I found myself getting, not bored, but more aware that things were loosing the appeal they had 30 minutes earlier. Another issue here was that I had fallen foul of the films major twist the other week as spoielrs began appearing. I had steadied myself for it, and I knew (kinda) what was coming, and as the second act ends with that reveal I couldn't help but be very very frustrated.

Now, to talk about that twist in a little more detail...

OK, I knew it was coming, but I hadn't written it off yet, I was open to it. I'm no comic book nut and I've never read an Iron Man comic ever, I have no real grasp og how Mandarin features in the Iron Man history, other than I know of his existence and general appearence and characteristics, so I had no issue with the idea of having a twist on how it was portrayed. I have no issue with the lack of magic rings or anything like that. The problem I had with the twist was and is pretty simple, it robs us of that great villain that Kingsley promises to be during those video speech's. Even though I knew the twist was coming, I still bought into Kingsley as this really great bad guy. I think I'd be even more disheartened if I hadn't known about the twist too. Kingsley is on such fine form as the bad guy, that when he switches to Lawrence Oblivier I was gutted that there would be no more Kingsley Mandarin. He does well with the second role, it raises laughs and he sells it really well, but it means that the last third of the movie were left with Guy Pearce's Killian as the big bad guy threat and, even though he is perfectly fine in the film, he feels like a step down from Kinglsey's Mandarin.

There are of course theories now that Kingley's Mandarin is actually still The Mandarin and is actually playing Killian. There is suggestion that the Vice President reveal somehow supports this (though I dont see how - anyone care to guess?) and that the fact Mandarin is so clumsy and clear to reveal himself to Stark (flushing his toilet, stomping out with this very over the top performance) is also telling that he is actually putting on a show. I'm not sure I buy that, it's possible I guess, but if this is a reveal behing held back for a future movie, it would feel like one hell of a cop out.

The bait and switch from Trevor Mandarin to Killian Mandarin also revealed how little I actually understood of Killians actual plot, what he was actually trying to acheive. So he's killing the President on the oil rig as punishment for himself not punishing the big wigs at an oil firm at the time of a spill? I think he says that but when asked about it says that's not it. I think he then makes suggestion that using Trevor Mandarin to kill the President he has the worlds most powerful ear and mouth? I think that's what he said, but cant remember for sure, and it think it lead to some suggestion he was creating a supply and demand for terror and fighting terror i.e create the worlds most feared terrorist, then as the Vice President takes over from the dead President Ellis, he gets to sell Extremis and the Extremis soldiers to the US to fight terrorism? The Vice President is in on it as his daughter has a missing limb and he wants to fix it? Is that what was going on, cos that's what it felt like, but it's never too clear. And if that is the overall villainous plan, it feels pretty weak and again, feels like a let down in the shadow of the Trevor Mandarin's earlier creepy videos and suggestion he is planning something really evil.

I think I have real problems with how IM3 uses it's bad guys, and as in all previous Iron Man movies, the threat to Stark never really materialises.

Despite that annoying twist, the third act does pick up in my eyes, and although the villainous plot isn't really that great, it becomes great fun watching Tony and Rhodey team up and the pace picks up, and the dialogue starts to feel more natural and back to the Shane Black of old (some great exchanges with Mandarin's henchmen!). The third act also delivers what I reckon is the best action set piece of the trilogy - the Air Force One rescue. Seriously, although it''s short, I really loved it. Savin feels like a bad guy, shooting his way through the plane, nabbing the President then sending the plane down. The heros' on screen only really work when they're taking on real threats and good bad guys, and here it felt like I wanted Iron Man to drop onto the scene and really take him down. Up until that scene we haven't really had any Iron Man action, it's mostly Tony, so for Iron Man to actualy finally do some heroics, I was really happy. The mid air rescue was really great and was the only time the movie benefitted from the 3D and I really loved it. I guess it's telling that it's the only scene that seemed to feature actual in-camera stunt work. Loved it. The finale was good too, for the most part. It's certainly the best finale of the three IM movies, but again it's let down buy the bad guy, Killian Mandarin just didn't really click with me at all. I didn't have ay issue with the other things going off in the finale, I loved the suits, loved Rhodey, and was entertained, it was all good. Just not great, and it felt like the movie had missed a trick by pulling the switch.

Black's direction throughout is fine, but it never really feels like anything other than a movie within the Marvel Movie Universe, which has always been a bit of a bug bear for me. We have all these movies and they're mostly good, and certainly all entertaining enough, but as they all have to connect and feel as one, they never really get there own visual style, they all follow the same look and feel and I think it's a real shame that within this Marvel Movie Universe we're not getting to see different styles being used. That is kinda offset here though via the script, and getting Black in to do this is mostly great. Like I say, I had issue during the middle third, and the dialogue started feeling a little too self knowing - 'Hey everyone, listen, listen to this back and forth.. it's a Shane Black movie!'. Almost how Aaron Sorkin dialogue starts to feel very Aaron Sorkin after a while, if that makes any sense!?! Another missed opportunity in Iron Man 3 that plagues all Marvel movies, a lack of a decent hero theme and overall score. There is nothing really wrong with Tyler's score, it's perfectly fine, but these movies are crying out for great and memorable themes. Performances by pretty much everyone were good, RDJ, Cheadle and Paltrow were really good, as was the kid playing Harley, and of course the main attraction being Kingsley when in full on Mandarin mode. Nothing to fault there at all. Effects were mostly great, 3D was fine but never really added to much of anything. There is never anything really that I could call 'bad', but it certainly feels a bit underwhelming, and again a large pat of that is, for me, due to the use of the twist.

I'd be amazed if people couldn't find things to enjoy in IM3, it's a good ride, it's better than IM2, but for me never really tops the first Iron Man movie in my opinion. Maybe a second viewing will reveal a little more, as some people are suggesting. As it stands, it's solid and entertaining, occasionally very thrilling, often very very funny, but lacking that certain something, that certain edge to make it a really great film.

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RE: The best Iron Man film IMHO - 26/4/2013 3:55:09 PM   
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Yeah I really enjoyed it. I can see some Fanboys being rather miffed though. For me it was more Kiss Kiss Bang Bang 2 than Ironman 3 but that's ok with me, KKBB is great. They even mention a Ficus!

Probably hovering around a 3 and a half star rating for me but I reckon I'll enjoy it more on repeated viewings.

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Here be SPOILERS! - 26/4/2013 3:58:17 PM   
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Ok, I watched it last night and after reading some of the comments on here I thought I would add my thoughts, so be prepared for SPOILERS!
So don't read after this point... The Mandarin is really Ant Man...ok he's not, but shame on you for reading further if you don't want to read spoilers!

I thought it was a brilliant piece of popcorn chomping entertainment.  High on action, lots of laughs and for a 2hr+ film, it flew by.
But lets talk about the white elephant in the room...how did it get through the door? (sorry lame joke)

I also knew about the big twist before I saw the film and I was prepared to be disappointed, but I think Kingsley's acting was spot on and taking the world we live in now, I think it's one of the most realistic interpretations of a modern villian, a hate figure that the world wants to fight against. I know that people with lava for blood is unrealistic, but magic rings would have been even more strange.

I commend the script team for having the balls to do this to such an iconic figure and who is considered to be Iron Man's biggest nemesis.
But part of me does hope it's a double switcharoo and he really is The Mandarin.

On the part of Killian's motive (I actually think Guy Pearce was great in the role), he's simply a mad mad man (lava blood does that to you) who wants power, what other motive does he want?
With The Mandarin causing the trouble in one hand and Iron Patriot in the other, he would have cornered the market in terrorism and anti-terrorism.

But RDJ was on top form and really made this film.  I think Avengers 2 will be the last we see of Iron Man, maybe his death will be the catalyst for Phase 3?
But seriously, films should be taken as they are, entertainment, and for me, this film had bucket loads.

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RE: Here be SPOILERS! - 26/4/2013 6:33:52 PM   
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I saw it today and thought it was bloody great. Can't add more to that, really.

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What have you done ! - 26/4/2013 7:06:02 PM   
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I agree it was a beautiful and fun film and took me by surprise but there is one aspect of this film I am outraged with!!! Anyone who knows anything about Iron Man will agree with me here.
If you ignore this aspect it is a great start to Phase two (it is easy to pretend that aspect didn't happen)

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RE: What have you done ! - 26/4/2013 7:33:39 PM   
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I agree it was a beautiful and fun film and took me by surprise but there is one aspect of this film I am outraged with!!! Anyone who knows anything about Iron Man will agree with me here.
If you ignore this aspect it is a great start to Phase two (it is easy to pretend that aspect didn't happen)


OK, I have to know what you're referring to...

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Tone perfect. - 26/4/2013 7:44:02 PM   
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Very enjoyable with razor sharp writing from Black and plenty of homespun humour from co writer Pearce. Dowton Abbey? Croyden? Alan Partridge, twice?

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RE: What have you done ! - 26/4/2013 8:29:36 PM   
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Re: Mijacogeo - I'm referring to The Mandarin

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iron man - 26/4/2013 8:46:18 PM   
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Let's start off by saying this is a good film; conversely its nothing like the previous iron man films. The action intensity has been dialled back and replaced by a more in depth storyline. Its not as good as 1 but maybe better than 2; maybe. Either way well worth a watch.

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Best couple of hours I've spent in the multiplex since AA - 27/4/2013 12:24:44 AM   
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No more spoliers thsn the Empire review...

For the first time in a long time, I agree with Empire's review to a greater extent. The only aspects I would challenge are:

Villains: The performances are outstanding and the motivations of the super-soldiers are very well explained.

Rebecca Hall: Despite minimal screen-time, she leaves a lasting impression.

This really is a wonderful bit of entertainment; exciting, funny and anchored by character development and great great ideas. I take my hat off to the team behind this. This isn't some lazy "it'll make a decent enough profit anyway" affair like The Amazing Spider-Man (which was absolute tripe, IMO), this s a work of great care for the subject matter and what the audience wants to see.

The trailers had me worried that this was going to be dull and depressing, but it's quite the opposite.

I shall be going again as soon as I can.

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RE: Best couple of hours I've spent in the multiplex si... - 27/4/2013 1:24:05 AM   
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I really enjoyed this ... as a Marvel film. But reading the Empire review having seen the film I came to Kiss Kiss Bang Bang reference and I immediately thought "Now, that a great film" and IM3 doesn't really live up to that even though I know it's not really supposed to anyway.

Spoilers to follow:

I think the villain in this is actually quite threatening to Iron Man especially when you consider the damage the Extremis soldiers can do the suits however I think it's not handled as well as it could be and I don't really know what actually kills the Extremis soldiers (was there a heat centre in the heart or something that had to be destroyed?).

I think what annoyed me most was the tease of all the other suits Tony had built. They all looked so cool but we really didn't get to see them in proper action, because a ten minute action sequence just isn't enough time. I'd love to see Tony use some other suits and put in circumstances where he has to use other suits because at the moment he's a bit like Ash in Pokémon; he has all these cool different suits but keeps using the same one (the same basic design anyway).

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IRON MAN 3 - 27/4/2013 6:29:21 AM   
ajm1991

 

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Shane Black chosen the best from comics, compiled them in the most logical and convincing manner and made one of the best Marvel movie till date.
Detailed Review: http://www.filmwaves.in/2013/04/iron-man-3.html

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RE: IRON MAN 3 - 27/4/2013 11:56:29 AM   
Wild about Wilder


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Had to see it in 3D as wanted to see something else after that was going after that day so wasn't overly impressed with that especially how BLOODY DARK! it was (seriouslyif they still want to use this format gonna have to do something about light loss), also the treatment of The Mandarin was shocking I mean haven't followed Iron Man in the comics for a few years now BUT! The Mandarin I remember was a major A-list bad guy this? well it was just a joke & as for the other villans could've done with a bit more explaining of their powers which seemed like a cross between Super Soldier Serum, Wolverines healing ability, Original (1930s-) Human Torch's heat power & I don't know maybe Nitros explosive power still don't get where near invulnerability comes from.
All in all an ok version good I spose if you don't really know the comicbook origins but a bit confussing if you do, will see it again in 2D which may give me a bit more of a feel for it but at the moment a slightly baffled 7/10

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Yes we have, just with different eyes, it would appear. - 27/4/2013 1:41:43 PM   
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Loved this movie, and I love the fact that it has divided people so divisively That's what makes this whole movie thing so great.

I thought this was the best Ironman of the 'Three' (not '3'!). Plot, pacing and dialogue were highly entertaining, in places clever, and on the whole very funny. Shane Black done good, so hopefully he'll be around for another.

SPOILER As for The Mandarin, he was never going to work in the Marvel movies. He never particularly worked in the comics either. The very concept in today's culture is a joke, and so I have no problem in him being treated as such here - Kingsley was fantastic! Guy Pearce was great too, and more than made up for his tom-foolery in Prometheus SPOILER END

Its probably been said elsewhere, but there are similarities between Ironman Three and TDKR, which received a similar split in response and "fan outcry". But whilst both were about terrorism and both emphasised the man, not the suit, as the heart of the film, they are two very different beasts. I get the feeling from some of the naysayers that they were expecting the same lever of intensity in IMThree as in TDKR. If so, I think you missed the point of the film and the Ironman franchise in general.

Oh, and the after credits bit is well worth watching.

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not THAT great - 27/4/2013 8:18:09 PM   
tysmuse

 

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I LOVE Kiss Kiss, Bang Bang. I think it's genius. So I was really looking forward to this. It's fun, sure. But not that as brilliant as it's being made out to be.

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Not just the best but the most polarising - 27/4/2013 9:30:02 PM   
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The twist involving the Mandarin is gonna get a lot of fanboys knickers in a twist themselves. But aside from the superb action, and comic relief, the fact this film dared to take risks, develop characters differently, break the current Marvel formula and actually try to assume its own identity and not an extended teaser like Iron Man 2, makes this the best film in the trilogy on merit alone and not just because of its set-pieces. Superb!

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RE: Not just the best but the most polarising - 27/4/2013 10:20:10 PM   
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I have no idea what I just watched. I have no idea whether I liked it or not. And I have no idea why they turned Tony Stark's equivalent of the Joker into a joke.
The action scenes were awesome, but I think I may need to watch it again to get my head around it. And it's not even a particularly complex film... just wasn't what I was expecting, I guess.

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RE: Not just the best but the most polarising - 27/4/2013 11:34:53 PM   
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Poor character development and the plots a mess, funny in parts and watcheable but does get above 2/5 in my book.

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RE: Not just the best but the most polarising - 27/4/2013 11:46:06 PM   
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I thoroughly enjoyed myself, and I really felt like the rest of the audience had as well, so I'm genuinely surprised by how many people have disliked it. I was expecting to come home and read a bunch of comments about how fun it was.

*highlighty*]My only issue was The Mandarin reveal, which while admittedly quite funny, was rather disappointing. He'd been built up as such a menacing, unpredictable bad guy, not only in the film but in the trailers and promos leading up to it, then in a second all of that was wiped away. In all honesty I felt a little bit cheated. But, apart from that, the rest of the film was a blast.


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